Understanding Free Will Qadr & Problem of Evil in Islam - Shaykh Hamza Yusuf 

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Quran has the answer to this, if you read quran carefully. I am sorry to say that you have to put aside the hadiths view of predestination completely aside to understand it correctly. Once a man came to hazrat Ali R.A and asked him for solution to this issue. Hazrat Ali told him to lift one leg which he did. Hazrat Ali told him to lift another leg while one leg up in the air. He said I cannot, I will fall. Hazrat Ali said lifting first leg was in your control/wish (tatbeer) and lifting second is in hands of taqdeer (fate). This solution looks very close to quranic concept of predestination.

@@syedmeher1222 Do you mean Qadar prevented the 2nd leg from lifting? He can lift the 2nd leg if he wanted to because he has the free will. In my understanding is different than yours I believe.

Shaheen Voon so a murderer was predetermined to commit his crime? Which means he had no free will to do otherwise. Which means he was compelled. Which means he should not be accountable.

Mohammed Hanif yes and no....!! No, because it was predetermined by Allah and Allah knew it that it was going to happen even thou allah could stop it but he didn’t.....!! And Yes, that guy is responsible for it ONLY if he had the true intention to do it even thou he knew it that it wasn’t right and he could done have something better but this guy still goes and do it, So then yes he might be truly responsible..!! Now everything is depends on intentions...!!

So what makes u think that Du'a is not predestined.... if a person makes a Du'a .... he is predestined to that too... like all other predestined procedures... that's what I believe

Subhanallah Brother Shah, well said.

Yes subhanaAllah dua is another means Allah blesses us with 🙏

Can you tell me something about that in short?

If allah knows that i will go to hell before he created adam, then there is nothing i can do to change this. Is there?

It's not, "Allah knows you're going to hell," it's, "Allah knows you're going to heaven OR to hell." He knows what you're going to do before you're going to do it, but He isn't going to stop you, else He'd be revoking your free will. An aside: Why we've been created as conscious, moral agents with free will, I don't know. He created the angels with consciousness, but no free will. He then created the jinn with both consciousness and free will. Finally, He created humans with consciousness, free will, and... Nobody knows what else. The angels asked why mankind was created. The lord simply told them, "I know what you do not." In other words He told the angels to have faith in Him in creating humans. Allah swt, hasn't revealed the metaphysical purpose of humanity's existence, beyond the fact that we were created to worship Him - the creator. This doesn't answer the question of why we needed to exist and be created, since all of creation exists solely to worship Allah. And since that's the case, there would be no difference, ontologically, between a human and a rock (they both exist to worship Allah swt). This is why the answer of our existence being to worship Allah swt is unsatisfactory.

faismasterx So what you are saying is that Allah only knows that I am going to heaven or hell, but allah does not know where i eill actually go? Can Allah still then be described as all-knowing? Also, my understanding has been that allah knew everything i will do before he created me. Is this a wrong understanding?

Of course, He knows. It's difficult, as a created being of limited knowledge (you know, being human), to grasp the mind frame of omniscience. Allah swt's omniscience means every point in time and all of the variables are known at all times. Given our limited point of view, it's difficult - no, impossible, actually - to comprehend _how_ Allah swt can both create you _knowing_ your fate (or "writing" your fate), while simultaneously bestowing upon you the ability to choose your fate. A loose example would be having a child. You _know_ that your child will, at some point (probably their teenage years), disobey you and rebel against your wishes. It could be as meaningless as taking a candy when you forbade it after dinner time. The child still chose to A) take and candy, and B) disobey the parent's wishes as a result. Your act of procreation does not bind the child into disobedience at that particular instance in time. Likewise, the act of your creation in whatever instance of time does not bind you to a particular fate. Your creator, however, knows whatever that fate is. Note that "fate" here refers to the eternal fate of your soul, not the course of your life. For example, is it wrong to create an individual with a debilitating disease that will take their life at exactly 26 years, 7 months, 19 days, and 31 minutes from the point of their birth? That random example is meaningless without all of the information. Whether this is right or wrong is not our call to make. We don't have all of the information and cannot see the entire picture. Remember that Allah swt is the most just. To create a being with the intent to have them doomed before the inception of their existence would be an unjust act. I hope this gives you understanding, and some comfort.

faismasterx you said it is unjust to create a being with the intent to have them doomed. But you slso agree that allah knew all those people who will go to hell long, long before he created them. Which can only mean that allah created these people with the intention of burning them in hell. If allah knew that i will burn in hell before he created me, would it not have been more merciful to not create me at all? But what you are telling me is that allah can know dvery action i will take before creating me, while thesame time giving free will. Even u do realise just how stupid and illogical that sounds . Which is why u say it is impossible for us to understand but allah knows best... Total nonsense. If allah is all-knowing and at the same time the creator of everything, them everything is exactly the way allsh wanted it to be and allah is responsible for everything that happend

Ok what about that hadith?

@@themerchant2579 Chapter 2, verse 253: "...If Allah had so willed, succeeding generations would not have fought among each other, after Clear (Signs) had come to them, but they (chose) to wrangle, some believing and others rejecting. If Allah had so willed, they would not have fought each other; but Allah fulfills His plan." Here Allah explains His plan. It shows we don't know what is Allah's will unless he tells us. So in that case, we do what we choose to do (freewill)

yeah he clearly stutters on this topic

@@osamaata2656 Chapter 2, verse 253: "...If Allah had so willed, succeeding generations would not have fought among each other, after Clear (Signs) had come to them, but they (chose) to wrangle, some believing and others rejecting. If Allah had so willed, they would not have fought each other; but Allah fulfills His plan." Here Allah explains His plan. It shows we don't know what is Allah's will unless he tells us. So in that case, we do what we choose to do (freewill)

@Hassan Ali Chapter 2, verse 253: "...If Allah had so willed, succeeding generations would not have fought among each other, after Clear (Signs) had come to them, but they (chose) to wrangle, some believing and others rejecting. If Allah had so willed, they would not have fought each other; but Allah fulfills His plan." Here Allah explains His plan. It shows we don't know what is Allah's will unless he tells us. So in that case, we do what we choose to do (freewill)

@@shahrozemalik9439 I respectfully disagree... Surah e taqwir (verse 29): And you do not will except that Allah wills - Lord of the worlds.

not without his will, it's without his knowledge. He knows our actions, doesn't mean he controls it.

45. The Angels said, “O Mary, God gives you good news of a Word from Him. His name is the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, well-esteemed in this world and the next, and one of the nearest. 46. He will speak to the people from the crib, and in adulthood, and will be one of the righteous.” 47. She said, “My Lord, how can I have a child, when no man has touched me?” He said, “It will be so. God creates whatever He wills. To have anything done, He only says to it, ‘Be,’ and it is.” 48. And He will teach him the Scripture and wisdom, and the Torah and the Gospel. 49. A messenger to the Children of Israel: “I have come to you with a sign from your Lord. I make for you out of clay the figure of a bird; then I breathe into it, and it becomes a bird by God’s leave. And I heal the blind and the leprous, and I revive the dead, by God’s leave. And I inform you concerning what you eat, and what you store in your homes. In that is a sign for you, if you are believers.” 50. “And verifying what lies before me of the Torah, and to make lawful for you some of what was forbidden to you. I have come to you with a sign from your Lord; so fear God, and obey me.” 51. “God is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him. That is a straight path.” 52. When Jesus sensed disbelief on their part, he said, “Who are my allies towards God?” The disciples said, “We are God’s allies; we have believed in God, and bear witness that we submit.” 53. “Our Lord, we have believed in what You have revealed, and we have followed the Messenger, so count us among the witnesses.” 54. They planned, and God planned; but God is the Best of planners. 55. God said, “O Jesus, I am terminating your life, and raising you to Me, and clearing you of those who disbelieve. And I will make those who follow you superior to those who disbelieve, until the Day of Resurrection. Then to Me is your return; then I will judge between you regarding what you were disputing. 56. As for those who disbelieve, I will punish them with a severe punishment, in this world and the next, and they will have no helpers. 57. And as for those who believe and do good works, He will give them their rewards in full. God does not love the unjust.” 58. This is what We recite to you of the Verses and the Wise Reminder. 59. The likeness of Jesus in God’s sight is that of Adam: He created him from dust, then said to him, “Be,” and he was. 60. The truth is from your Lord, so do not be of those who doubt. 61. And if anyone disputes with you about him, after the knowledge that has come to you, say, “Come, let us call our children and your children, and our women and your women, and ourselves and yourselves, and let us invoke God’s curse on the liars.” 62. This is the narrative of truth: there is no god but God. God is the Mighty, the Wise. 63. But if they turn away-God knows the corrupt. 64. Say, “O People of the Book, come to terms common between us and you: that we worship none but God, and that we associate nothing with Him, and that none of us takes others as lords besides God.” And if they turn away, say, “Bear witness that we have submitted.” Qur'an 3:45-64

@@cornelius2993 I figure you quote the Quran because you believe this to be the word of God. Well, it is not! So its fully redundant to do so. The Quran is but the errant religious opinions of 7th century arabs. A collection of violent, confused and jumbled texts by semi-pagans. Most of them likely the products of Abd Malik and his sidekick Al-Hajjaj.

Zayd Depaor totally misunderstood his statement...

Salam brother, you've misunderstood his statement, if you watch his 'Islam on Demand' lectures this is what he says; You can judge outwardly, peoples actions etc according to the laws of God, but inwardly (the heart) that's something that no one can judge except for Allah (swt)

Zayd Depaor I get what your saying but don't insult the man's intelligence or judge what he saying by your own perception without being open minded and give him some credit for this drop of knowledge. I think that's what he means by variables because oftentimes we don't can misinterpret without giving much thought before conclusions. Allah The Creator is the Best and final judge. I do agree with your take though, about how the human mind can come to an interpretation just by looking at someone or a situation. That's part of the reason why I think we all will be judge on that Day is because we judge as if we haven't done, been apart of, or support people or things that's not more sinister. Also, we can judge in favor of things but from human perception we judge. Allah is the Divine Judge. Peace

I takfiris will always look at outward things, appearances and speech. But remember u call one someone who isnt kafir one it will make u kafir. Wahabi fool.

What a ridiculous take on a well articulated answer