I've been watching your videos for about 6 months now. During that 6 months, I've made a career change after 29 years of factory work, I am now a CDL Class A license holder with all 3 endorsements as well. I passed my state exam 2 weeks ago, I officially start my first truck driving job in 3 days. I got really lucky, found a smaller company based 22 miles from my home, they run about 3 dozen trucks, the owner still drives occasionally, family oriented business, everybody knows everybody by name. I'll be out from Sunday night till Friday afternoon/evening, routes to Minnestota, Alabama, Florida, Dallas, Denver, North Carolina and more. This is one of the most informative videos I've found on the DOT clocks and clock management and I'm going to be learning the hard way on my own as my driver trainer gets home every night I will not be doing overnights until I'm on my own. So videos like this are really gonna be helpful to me. Can't say enough how much I appreciate the work you two are doing to help us new drivers out. Thank you!
Awwww…thanks! It’s our pleasure! There were so many things we were/are still learning that we figured other new drivers could benefit from our experiences! Glad it’s been helpful to you! And congratulations on your achievement!!!! We are so happy for you! And smart to get all your endorsements right away!! You might also consider getting your TWIC card if your chosen company ever has customers where that might be needed. And the company sounds good! Hope it works well for you!! Let us know how it goes!! And thanks for watching and commenting!! We appreciate that!!
@@georgecook1374 I feel like I've hit the lotto. They have enough of a need for local drivers that they aren't making me go OTR. Making $22 an hour getting about 45 to 55 hours a week. It has been the best decision I have ever made. A few scary moments, being a brand new driver from a small farm town and I'm sent into the suburbs of Detroit most days. Some bad weather and a few breakdown, one trailer door I ripped off. But absolutely no regrets.
@@bolognasammich Just saw your last reply. Oops. Glad you are happy about your decision!! And sounds like you found a great job! Hope things continue to go well for you!
I am a new driver at 57 with Werner now and going solo this week and boy am I nervous. When I was Team Driving with my trainer, I was driving at 3 am and past and falling asleep and I was like what am I doing forget this. I wanna work normal hours not crazy hours.
Hey! Thanks for your comment! How are you doing now that you have a month under your belt? Hope you can keep more regular hours with your own truck. Crazy hours not good for being rested.
Thank you so much for breaking this down! I’m new will be on my own next week and I don’t want to drive late nights! So glad i found your channel! New subscriber
Nice video! You can also stop the 70 hour clock by going off duty if you are close to running out of your 70 hours, like before doing a 34 hour reset. It helps to stop the 70 hour clock in this case if you are about to run out of your 70 hours and you need to find a place to park the truck.
Really needed this! Was dump trucking for 2 years. Now in 18W and was like wait why am I constantly loosing time!? Even tho I knew I was doing things right. This explained it really good. Thank you family because I was getting nervous because I didn’t want to get in any type of trouble! ❤️🙏🏽
Thank you! I now have a better understanding of the clocks! When our instructor in class was explaining it, I was wondering how to kept up with the passed 7 days, after seeing it, it all makes sense now! Again, Thank you!
Thanks for the tips! Iv been doing a local job for a year and wanting to do otr now. But one thing that has worried me is that i may not be able to have somewhat of a regular sleeping schedule. if i cant get to bed within two or three hours at the same time each day i have real trouble sleeping. its encouraging to hear that it doesn't always have to be that way. If you have anymore tips on how to have a consistent schedule id love to hear them! thank you!
At Crete you tell them when you are available. So generally you can keep to a regular schedule. You work it out with your asset manager. They get to understand how you like to run. You are the captain of your ship. You want to be reasonable, but you can definitely set some boundaries and explain why. Safety comes first!!!
The 70 hour clock is for 8 days not 7 days. You can drive without a reset if you drive 8.5- 8.75 hrs a day. 70 divided by 8 days is 8.75. since you get back the hours from the 8th day, you will always get back about 8.75 as that is what you ran each day. would like to connect with you folks and give you some hints and tips to help you out. Let me know how best to contact you.
Thanks for breaking that down. That’s good information for drivers who want to keep it routine and whose loads can work like that. Hope people read the comments. Would be great to chat. You are very knowledgeable. Where do you live?
Its a shame you don't get taught this in school or by the trainer/mentor. would save new drivers a lot of headaches and frustration.................. great job guys.
@@TheJoyofTrucking It really was thanks. We recently had our yearly Safety Audit done, & now we are required to have an ELD from now on moving forward on all company vehicles for safety compliance. I’m salary so I don’t get paid by the mile we just have to log them for records But we’re going paperless now so…. It works out for DVIR purposes and keeping track of our cargo too. I like it. 👌🏽
You have to restart personal conveyance after every time you stop or else it will kick you into drive on your hours so anytime you get back in your truck restart personal convenience
I’m not gonna lie, I’m past the statute of limitations. I came into it running two log books sometimes just to be on time. This really puts the company in check to make them let you take your breaks and actual bunk time.
@@TheJoyofTrucking anytime. Just got into your channel and it reminds me of when I first started driving and did my time otr for Western Express. 4 weeks hard running for 48 off. That’s not possible now a days.
@@jaysant6958 because now you must run a digital log book that can’t be changed. Everything has an electronic time and date stamp that puts you somewhere. Getting fuel, going on a scale, crossing a bridge, it all has a time signature that puts you there and tracks you. You can’t just write down what makes you legal anymore.
Thanks for the helpful tips on the ELD VS reality. If I pass my DOT physical I may be enrolled into a CDL School by March or April 2222. In the meantime, I have been driving my ATS truck sym PC game up to midnight,2 or 3am. It looks like I have to make a "slight change" of lifestyle to attend the school at (8am to 4pm), and if I graduate, and apply where my friend works I could be getting up at from midnight to 3:00 a.m.)
Glad you got some value from the video!! We wish you best of luck on your journey to driving ‘in real life’! And, remember…there are some companies that love having you drive at night. So you might be able to keep those same hours. But then it might be tough to find places to park for the night. Unless your friend just vacated a spot. Lol. You could do relays ;-)) Thanks for watching! Let us know how it goes!!
HOS are simple today. Your elog keeps up with it. Believe it or not, just a few years ago we had to do it on paper. And many trck drivers can't even add correctly. :)
🙋🏽♂️ QUICK QUESTION: I’m just a part time route delivery driver and my question is: if I am understanding you correctly. Do I press on duty before I begin my route, and press off duty when I complete my route to log the miles in for that day? On Duty before Off Duty when completed… Right? then logout?
It’s best to go on duty and then do your pre-trip. Mark this in your log. This would show DOT officer that you did your pre-trip. When you start driving the ELD will automatically switch to driving. At the end of the day, yes, go off duty. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching!!!
I’m about to join the Werner Lowes account. When I arrive at lowes, should I switch to on duty or off duty when they unload the trailer? It takes 2-3 hours to unload. Great videos by the way.
Kevin would probably go off duty or sleeper berth. That will help save your clock. Glad you enjoy our videos! Sorry for the late reply...hope it's going well!! Best of luck with your new career!!
Our days get very long in the winter time running the northeast roads get really bad. Sometimes you have to pull over after you run out of hours get a hotel room which they provide the credit card and the fuel card. We’re supposed to be home every day sometimes a figure out these runs the routing department and they really stretch you thin. I’m sure not everybody does it certain companies are pretty brutal to work for a lot of them are pretty relaxed.
Best time to start your day is around 3:00 or 4:00 in the morning you can drive out all your hours without worrying about getting to a truck stop and being able to find a parking spot so you don't have to stop early to hunt for somewhere to park for the night
@@moderngunguy3666 Yes…starting early will give you more chances of finding a parking spot at the end of your day. And you won’t miss any beautiful sunrise ms. 😃
With personal conveyance, the way people screw that up is when your truck turns off, it takes you off of personal conveyance. So say you contact your company get permission to go on PC, you put yourself in PC then drive to Walmart. You stop park your truck & turn it off. When you get back in your truck, as soon as you turn that truck on put yourself back into PC. Everytime the truck turns off it takes you off PC.
My man's first day, yesterday. We are so frusterated with the clocks. We've been sitting here at Loves since 5Am. Basically wasted a day away not able to move. Hopefully it gets better.
Sorry to hear that! They take a while to understand. We hope the video helped. Let us know if there’s a specific question we can try and answer for you.
Fuel islands. Your clock might reset in 3 minutes, but someone else's might be about to run out in 2 minutes. Get your fuel, put it in neutral, let the other guy push you if that's what it takes to reset your clock.
New driver here, So today i experienced the 14hr clock run out due to yard monouvers lpokomg for my loaded trailer etc.. Whilst i had 4 hours of drive time left.. Your video has helped me to understand how it works now thank you 😊 Question, To avoid that happening i should of went on off duty mode ??
Been running on recaps this time out..much less stress and more time between driving, but loads seem to have less miles even though my 70 stays around 10 daily..just hate sitting for 34
I’m going to Orientation in a couple weeks and I’ll be on Best Buy account getting me home every week. How do I plan so I can make sure im home every weekend?
Congratulations! To time your home time for the weekend, we think you’ll need to really get good with learning the clocks and also communicating with your fleet manager. Thanks for watching!!
If I understood you well, you go off duty during loading/unloading to save a 70-hour clock. I think that it's not allowed to be off duty status during loading or unloading, fulling, scale...
It's our pleasure!!! Really glad it was helpful! And very, very grateful for your Super Thanks!!!! That is MUCH appreciated!! You are only the third person to do that! I think most people still don't realize how much time we put into this channel and that they can show their appreciation that way. So, we really appreciate you doing this!! Take care and let us know if you have other questions concerning the DOT Clock. Drive safe! Have fun!
I made it almost 3 weeks before my reset somehow lol. I always save my clock even if I don't drive it all out then my 70 won't run out as fast then I run on recaps
I still don’t understand the 30 minute break thing. I was told Yard Move, drop and hook etc (on duty, but not driving) would count towards the 30 minute dot. However I tried to once and it didn’t work 😐
Hmmmm…strange. Are you driving fir Werner, using same ELD? When Kevin puts it on yard move, fueling, or on/off duty it counts toward the 30. Be sure that it’s a minimum of 30 consecutive minutes WITHOUT ‘driving’ and it should work. Let us know…
Pretty sure any on-duty, not driving time for at least 30 consecutive minutes satisfies the 30 minute break requirement. I know it does for the ELD that I use.
The rule should be 84 hours in an 8 day period for a team (edited to add: 84 hours per driver, not per team. 168 hours per team.). That would allow the team to run non-stop and still forces them to take a day off after 7 days. Back when I drove teams we would run non-stop for 3 months straight, then take a weekend in the yard before heading back out... LOL I hate to think how much money we made for the company, at 7000 to 8000 miles per week.
@@TheJoyofTrucking I think I made about 29 cents per mile starting off, so it was good money as hard as we were running... But after a year and a half of that I started driving solo, which was much better, but less money. I haven't driven in 18 years, but since my daughter is going into college this year I'm getting back into it. My brother is getting his MC authority and a truck for me to drive, at 35% of gross (about $3500 per week starting off) and I get to choose my own loads off the load boards, so it should be a pleasant way to get back into it.
Real question--how do you handle team driving in a 150 sq ft space total? I don't see how people do it. Yeah--the money may be better but just me going out with a trainer drove me nuts for a couple days even. No space, no privacy unless you get out of the truck... for a whole 3 months at a time? I'd go nuts.
No. When you go off duty you can still get detention pay (which depends on if the company actually offers detention pay). Your main income will be for cents per mile (cpm) driven, but other things like detention pay, shag pay, bonuses, layover pay, will add to your income. It depends on the company. They pay in many different ways. That's why it's challenging to compare trucking company pay. Hope that explained it a little bit at least. Thanks for watching!
E logs didn’t make the roads safer, sorry to say it but they made it worse because no matter how well you can manage that e log you can still feel that pressure from having to be in a time crunch against that computer. My dad drove for 30 yrs between 1950 and 1980 4+ million safe miles. He even stated that “Those dammed e-log gadgets you have to you make it more unsafe for you.” Kinda hard to argue with a man with that kind of experience.
Wow! What an amazing career your dad had! Bet he drove some very cool trucks too! And, yes, the DOT time rules were supposed to increase safety, but we’ve talked to a few drivers who think they didn’t achieve that goal. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@TheJoyofTrucking thank you between you and another video. I am starting to understand the company is putting me with a trainer for the rest of the week to make sure I understand the clock before I go back out on the road. I'm happy that they are willing to invest in my future instead of giving up on me. I think I've finally found a job that is worth my time and makes me happy for the most part as long as I'm not driving in Philly 😂 which happens at least once a week. Heading up to newyork today first day with this trainer. The weather has our routes closed as of now. You and your wife have safe travels I really appreciate your knowledge and posting videos to help us new drivers. Coming onto my 2nd month I wish school had tought this. They said that company would teach us what we need to know which I've learned isn't exactly true. But at least the school tought us how to drive good which is 80% of trucking
Good idea. Be sure to watch the one we did recently on “Don’t make this mistake”. Don't Make this Mistake with your DOT Clock ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PcEcoSGTurA.html
Good info here. Always struggled getting my head around running on re cap hrs.. 🧐 Curious, does Werner require you to log fueling time? I’ve worked for companies that had fuel card usage linked to your DOT hos e log, requiring logging of fueling time as on duty, not driving. Thanks! 👍
Hey Andy! Kevin doesn’t think Werner fuel card is linked to ELD. As the driver, you can manually enter your on duty function as ‘fueling’ so it counts on your on duty 14h but doesn’t take away from your 11h driving clock. If you forget, there’s no consequence from the company, it’s just shortening your driving time. If you forget to stop your driving clock, it will automatically switch to on-duty and stop the driving clock after 5 minutes of non-driving. Hope it helps!!!
Sorry i didn’t understand this part, if shipper/receiver is taking more than 2 of your hours, can you put your eld in “off duty” status? But then your left over hours would end very late at night, correct?
Yes. It is very confusing. When arriving at a s/r you have several options. Kevin stays on duty but switches to yard move or loading. This stops the 11hour driving clock. If he knows that he’ll be there more than 2 hours he goes off duty but doesn’t end the shift. This forces the split. Then when he goes back on duty the 14 hour clock will continue counting from when he went off duty. Then he has the option to work the rest of the shift or stop anytime before then. If you are stopped for more than 2 hours and are still on duty (yard move, etc. included), then the 14 hour clock will automatically split and you have the choice to accept that or not. The 14 hour clock cannot be stopped by going off duty. It will, however split to give you a total of 14 hours, if you are off duty for more than two hours. The 70 hour clock stops if you go off duty or in sleeper. Hope that helps!! We know it’s very complicated.
Great info… Thanks for sharing. Still a little confused about DOT clock management. But, I’m so happy I found y’all video on this important topic. I’ll be tuning in for more tips and helpful information. Love y’all videos. I watch y’all video about taking passengers on ur truck and saw your wife badge “Cute” . Lol I really enjoyed that video too, y’all had me laughing. Keep up the good work guys. And be safe out there. FYI: I just graduated CDL school and starting Werner soon. I’ve also watched some of y’all other videos. Thanks for sharing… Appreciate you guys… Happy Mother’s Day Hun Enjoy
We push it all the time it isn’t for making my living. It’s the runs that were assigned. It’s just the way it is it’s trucking. Oh, there’s all kinds of games you can play split sleeper berth play it right so you don’t have to have a 34 hour restart. It’s all a big game.
@@TheJoyofTrucking oh yeah thanks, but I worded that wrong for what I meant to ask but that is helpful. What I meant is that, I can take my 30 minute break while on duty, I don't have to clock off duty to take that break, if I go on duty to unload, it will reset my 8 hour clock if the unload took 30 minutes which it normally does
Can you do a tutorial sliding 5th from all the way forward all the way back where the weight goes trailer all the way forward all the way back where the weight goes how much weight can be distributed
I run alot ag exempt and can run legal with no clock indefinitely if you dou your break before 5 hrs you have to take 2. Driving at night is the best time to go for many reasons Not true you never have to do a 34 ever thre is such a thing called a recap
Use sleper instead of off duty, If you are not required to be on the dock or doing anything while being unloaded, you are basically free to do as you want, but if you can not leave, you can still go into sleeper until they call. then go back on duty to check out. Logging that time as off duty leave too much grey area for DOT officers. Sleeper birth limits the grey area.
Hi Kevin and Tanja. I'm from Denmark who has something like you hour counts. we have to drive 4.5 hours, have to last 45 min, have to drive 4.5 and have to last 10 hours, and then there is one time in a week that has to be exceeded. and others to . together, our registers also speed since trucks, they are only allowed to drive 80 km per hour. car can, however, it can drive approx. 90 to 95 km per hour. the police can look at a card we have in a machine that records speed, drive to read time and rest time so the aim of my question is: if you don't stick to the hours you have to and the hours you have to take a break, what is the fine/punishment. and how long those who control it can go back. with us there, they can go back the whole 365 days and give a certificate and also take your driving card/ driving licence. greetings Knud from Denmark
Hi Knud!!! Good to see you on our channel! We have good friends in Denmark and have visited. Where do you live? Thanks for explaining how the hours work in DK. Have a great week!!
Hi, I live near Haderslev in Jutland, southern Denmark. We you over your run time who punishes you and how far can they go back in time show over you run time@@TheJoyofTrucking
@@knudriis8367 Your electronic log keeps track. Officers can look back pretty far, not sure how far. If they find violations they can give you tickets.
Do drivers get a mandatory paid lunch 30 min ? Work for a garbage company was getting 30 min paid lunch volunteered to work same company out of state site ,,,not getting paid lunch,,,,working just under 70 hrs per week 6 days ...off 2pm Saturday back 6am Monday is that legal also😅
Sounds like your original company location was doing something extra. Kevin only gets cpm. He has to take a mandatory 30 minute break per the DOT within the first 8 hours. He does not get paid for those 30 minutes. 😣 And yes…that’s legal too. Means you did your 34 hour reset as ‘home time.’ Not long enough I can imagine. Especially week after week.
So far it seems like that is discretionary. Up to the driver to ask and the fleet manager to decide how much to add to the check. Not sure if there is an official amount.
so I can start my day at 4-5 every morning and finish by 2-3pm every day and be in sleeper berth until 4-5 the next morning if the delivery times allow it without being fired?
Lol! We don’t hire or fire and can’t say yeah or nay. Lol. There are many things that affect your schedule. Most important is to communicate with your fleet manager. You have 11hours driving time and 14hours maximum work time. There is the 8hour clock and the 70hour clock. You can also split your clock and by law need to take a minimum of 10hours rest. We’ve met drivers who push to the limit every day and others who drive/work about 8hours a day and don’t take resets. There is weather, traffic jams, live loads, splits, fueling, and many other things that can affect your clocks. Different accounts. Different loads. Different delivery times. Different companies. So your scenario…in a perfect situation could happen. But…I wouldn’t get too attached to it. REALLY work at understanding the clock and talk to your fleet manager. You are in charge of managing your time. You can take off more than 10 hours. Communicate. Phew…that was long but I hope it helps.
Most of my deliveries are 2am. My pickup is 2 days prior usually a morning pickup. I will drive that first day a full clock out, know where I’m gonna park. And the next day I’m close enough to my delivery that it will take 4-5 hours. I’ll wake up at a time that I won’t hit rush hour traffic if I’m going thru a big city. Get somewhere, take a 10 and be up in time for delivery.
My fleet manager knows how I run, so always sets me up with a 2am delivery, and a pickup at 4am. It’s great when you work for a trucking company, that every single dispatcher not only dispatches but also drives.
My guys do team driving when the have to Mass. or Maine I have very tight contracts. I admit I enjoy driving that way if we have to that far, my company is out of North Carolina ang Georgia. I always pre-trip before logging in.
If you can go into bunk you can put it in sleeper. Or can go off duty if you’re not responsible for anything and your waiting. After 2 hours that could let you split the clock.
@@jademcgood4314 Yes. It can all be very confusing. A lot to learn with trucking. That’s why we try share what we learn. So it helps other new drivers. Who does your husband drive for?
@@jademcgood4314 Truthfully it’s not really necessary. Most trucks these days are automated. Especially at the big carriers. Did his school not teach it?
You CAN work longer than 14 hours in a day and you CAN work more than 70 hours in a week, you CANNOT DRIVE after those times until you have the 10 hour rest per day (providing you have hours left on your 70 hour clock) and if you go past 70 hours, you need to take a 34 hour reset before you can drive again, the clocks are there to stop you from driving when you are out of time, not working, if you do work and get paid during your 34 hour reset you need to make sure you have a 34 hour break before you can drive again, even if you have a weekend job that has nothing to do with driving, it all counts against your 70 hours.
I’m about to join the Werner Lowes account. When I arrive at lowes, should I switch to on duty or off duty when they unload the trailer? It takes 2-3 hours to unload. Great videos by the way.
@@TheJoyofTrucking but then you need to be off duty for 10 hours right? Just trying to understand. The issue is about segmenting enough time for rest. You are not saying that by going off both clocks stop and then resume when you come back on duty. If that was the case I can go off duty in the middle of the day, resume my clock at 90 minutes and continue on. Is that right? If that was the case I can be extending the day exponentially. I must be interpreting some wrong.
@@AlbertMaruggi Hope I understand your question properly. Your day is governed by your 14 hour clock. To split your day you have to be off duty for 2 hours. The 70 hour clock is totaling on duty time. You may not be on duty more than 70 hours in 8 days. The 10 hour Rest restarts your 14 hour clock. We recommend being careful using splits when you’re new. There are many little details that can trip you up, especially because many of the company ELD devices do not split it for you and you need to know how to do it. Get comfortable with basics first. Good luck!
@@TheJoyofTrucking yeah what was confusing as I listened again was at 6:20 you talk about being off duty for less than 2 hours and coming back on duty. Perhaps you'd do that if you didn't know the extent to which the dock time was going to be and you wanted to have the option of a split. If you come back on duty at 1:45 then that full amount of time 1:45 comes off your 14. Ok if that's what you are saying then you're right and it's a technique to preserve (extend) time and should you take the split then you need to deal with those ramifications. Great.
your videos are great they would be even better if you could mute your partner from always butting in.no offence miss tanya i like hearing from you too .You guys are great
