Why I LEFT Werner Enterprises - The Top Ten Reasons 

i wonder if anybody at werner listened to the reasons he quit; he wasnt rude, he didnt curse out werner, he seems like a good employee to keep.

$50k is ok for a single person with finances in order and no major payments. For anyone with a family or house and car payment it suck, especially for as much time spent away from home to make that much.

When I started 10 years ago, I was with US Xpress, getting paid 24 cents a mile with very little miles. I quit after 2 months solo and started with a Flatbed carrier that started me at 36 cents and within 6 mo I was at 41 cents and received tarp pay. I now own my truck and have been through a few driving experiences, after you get a year or two of experience under your belt, start looking at smaller companies. If you're interested in owning a truck one day or wanting a business, then look for a 1099 company and get a good accountant, you'll thank me later.

That was a very honest review. The good and the bad. No angry super trucker just documenting what you did not like and with examples. A level headed discussion. That is a great character trait. Very good. Time to move on to better things. Have a good day tomorrow and stay safe.

Hey Kevin sorry werner lost a great driver and person, I currently work for them but plan on quitting this week because of all those reasons, good luck in the new company!

Good review about some of the negative things new drivers have to put up with when working for the mega carriers, not just Werner.

I worked at Werner in 2003. The last week I worked for these people I made a delivery from Atlanta to Chicago. Turned in the paperwork in the transflo envelope and dropped in the mail bin at the truckstop. Thats how this was done back then. Then later in week I had to get approval for a lumper. Sent in the appropriate messages over qualcomm and get authorization number and issue check. Well a week later I get my pay statement and low and behold no pay for Chicago load, and they deducted the $250 lumper fee from my pay. In total this was around $700 and in 2003 that was a good bit of money. They claimed they never got the paperwork for my load to Chicago and said the driver manager didnt approve the lumper lol.....To this day I've never received a dime of that money. I have been a cdl driver since 1998 and own my own equipment now and in 24 years I have never seen a more shitty company.

Shared your channel with my hubby. He enjoys it. He's been a OTR driver for 32yrs. Recently, within the past 1 1/2yrs he moved to a refrigerator company. It's been hard adjusting. He did have a lot of problems with pay and miles with prior company. Now we don't have problems we make great $ he's out 2 mo in 10dys. He has a 7yr plan for retirement. He is guaranteed 2500 a week. Hope your other company treats you better.

You give the most eloquent presentations I have heard in a long time. Not from just a truck driver, but overall. If more drivers pointed to facts as you just did, and not just complain about money. But explain how drivers are being abused and used by these carriers, maybe, just maybe some of these big companies would change their ways. I had similar issues with the mega carriers I drove for, including that company. My major issue was not so much the money, but the lack of communication. The lack of respect from the company. And the attitude by the Orientation people at the Georgia facility who acted as if they were doing you a favor by hiring you. Treat all of your employees with respect, productivity will increase and turnover will decrease. Good luck to you on your next position.

Everything he is describing is EXACTLY what I experienced with Werner when I first started driving. I was with them my first year starting with the Family Dollar/Dollar Tree account for the first 6 months, then Western 11 for the next. He hit the nail right on the head. I have found that major carries will do this. The smaller companies are the best ones to work for. They are the ones that actually listen and do everything possible to keep us drivers comfortable.

I love how you’re so professional on explaining things

My dad ran in the flatbed division of Werner for a few years in the early nineties and made a ton of miles. The reason he quit was because they didn't let their drivers have any home time until six weeks out. He got burned out really quick with them.

Well presented and with style , can’t wait to see what company your working at now and how it goes .

I worked for Werner back in the early 90s for a couple of years. My experience was mostly positive. They got me my CDL and I stayed way longer than the required commitment period. I think inter-departmental communication was better back then, but they were a little smaller back then. I feel what really makes the difference is your Fleet Manager. I had a great one while I was 48 state and she got me all the miles I wanted and got me home when I needed to be there. I got a lot of great cross country runs and splitting loads was something that just happened occasionally. When I switched to southeastern regional, things started to deteriorate and that was tied to the Fleet Manager as well. I was supposed to be home every weekend, but their version of a weekend was unloading Saturday at 2AM and your next load being an 11PM delivery on Sunday 300 miles away. I wish you well with your new company and thanks for the videos!

Thanks for the info! Good luck on your next adventure.

Thanks for a great review! Like I said, no company is perfect. Can't wait to hear about your new company.

Yet another great video, Kevin and Tonya. My philosophy and plan for getting into truck driving is to have the understanding that the first year be something of a polished turd with decent pay. Go into this with the first company as nothing more than the one that gets you the CDL and experience for the next company. As I explained on your previous video, I'm either going with Roehl or Swift to get my CDL and first year. Next, it's on to either Averitt or Dot Foods (DTI). And once I get close to another 18 months with that I'll be looking at Walmart where I'll probably stay until retirement. It's going to depend though with the second company because I really like what Averitt and Dot are offering. And Dot has those blue trucks!

I have been watching your videos since before you actually started with Werner when you were doing orientation. I am at almost a year with Werner now and everything that you said from number 1 to 10 I have had happened to me and I agree with 100%. I am very much considering leaving Werner as well but I’m going to give them one more chance on a different account than over the road. If it does not go well I am definitely going to move on. Thank you for your videos good luck at Crete

I was 3 days away from turning in my truck before anyone called me. Gave me the song and dance how valuable I was to the company. Why are you leaving blah blah blah. Werner was a good company to drive for but like every other company they have their issues. They would split loads after a few hundred miles and blame it on Net Ops. Never figured out who they were. I got fed up with it and one day I just kept driving and driving. Finally my fleet mgr called me and ask why I didn't drop the load. Just told him I didn't see the split lol. ( little white lie, ok maybe a big one) I was just fed up with short runs. The one thing I did like about being OTR was I got a lot of drop and hooks. The equipment was ok but seams like the brand new school drivers got the new trucks. I came with a lot of experience but in the last 12 years I was local hauling heavy equipment and my wife wanted to go to school and learn to drive. Well turns out she was scared to death of mountains. And she really only saw the east coast mountains, not the big rocky mountains. She would have died. Lol. Can't wait to see where you guys end up. Hopefully it a team driving operation.

I have been driving for Werner for 2 years now. I agree with everything you said to include having to drive all over the place looking for an empty trailers. It sucks that we can’t just pick up a load without one but I understand that they want to have trailers available at the shippers. I just got called for a Tractor Supply dedicated account. Should be staring next week once I am done taking my 6 days of hometime saved.

you really hit the nail on the head with split loads.. it’s crazy to get a 16 mile load with no preassigned load afterwards gets you a little ticked off

Keep us updated. Thanks

I've been at CR England for 13 months. Same experience. Thank for sharing yours. 👍 Be safe and good luck!

Werner is a great starter company for new drivers for your first year or two. If you are just starting out I really can't think of anything bad about Werner especially when it comes to their trucks and terminals which are in good shape compared to most. However if you are a good driver and want to work more than the bare minimum there are a lot of other companies that pay more and give you better loads. Mega carriers have a massive amount of overhead to pay for so they take .20 cents per mile off of drivers pay. These are great videos for new prospective drivers looking to get into the industry!

Hey Kevin that video is definitely what is happening in every big company am in the same boat 5 months but my God is giving me the strength and patient i think you a real person,smart cause to start anywhere is good but build that experience like you did not many does it one ☝️ year is not easy i got much respect to you (no a crybaby those who cry and whine they still suck the bottle for years) and like it the way you take it in a very positive performance you are a trough soldier. Good luck on your new job be waiting for it cause i learning from every video i watch.

After watching your channel, I often wondered why you were going through some of the things you discussed but didnt want to ask about it because i didnt want to be "that guy". Excited to see your new adventures with the new company and rig. ✌

Perfect advisor to drivers It's good that you're not trashing the company and getting your point being heard

Thanks Kevin for sharing your experiences and articulating the details. I really have a difficult time with number six, it would seem that with such a large company heavily laden with advanced technology throughout their information systems platform. You should have pre-planned loads already booked to you before you ever unload your current load. I am also with you regarding the split loads where they take a good run from you and split it with another driver or team. As you said, you are away from your home for extended periods for a reason, which is to maximize your miles paid. I really think the best opportunity out there is with companies such as NFI industries. They simply drive day cabs in a small geographic location for one or two clients, our home each day, and are very aware of their work schedule in advance. They have lots of opportunities across the country, and many of their drivers earn between 70 and 90,000 per year! If I were ever to move into a large class 8 semi, I would pursue that route.

This is such a good honest review! While I am in the beginning stages going towards getting my CDL, I’m keeping options open. So I truly appreciate it.

Sounds like you did it right. Learned the ropes, gave them a solid year👍

Thank you for sharing your experience. I hope the trucking companies out there get the message. Good drivers like you should be well compensated and treated with respect.

Thank you I’m finishing trucking school next month and Werner just came by and talked to us and said all this nice fancy stuff. Iv been in Security for 10 years and those companies do the same day something and do the opposite and not taking care of their employees and mess up the pay thanks for the review

Kevin you made a excellent decision . I'm new driver just come out school and I went Werner because you review. I'm currently with a trainer. It's sad to see you treated that way.

I have been watching from the beginning. Glad to see you make a change for the better.

Your a great guy Kevin! I've been watching you for awhile and have commented some. I had my own tractor way back. The way you explain things is outstanding. I wish I could find 10 guys like you, but that is very hard to do!! I would have a hell of a business going. I delt with places like you're talking about in this video. It's a big reason the countries in the shape it is!! Take care brother and keep rockin!!!!

Great attitude and explanation! I will show this video to my students.

Nice video. The one thing that I can relate with the most, is having to chase your pay. Drivers, if you drive for someone that you have to chase your pay, find another carrier. Life is too short to chase your pay. There are more important things to pay attention to than chasing your pay.

Im a super new driver that will be starting my career with Werner in about a month or so. Im doing tons of research and I truly appreciate this so much. Thank you.

Thanks for the input. I work for Werner now and is on a dedicated account and have exp everything you have said here in your video. I am coming up on my one year and is looking for better

Great video. I think I only watched a video of yours months back about the Hotel El Capitan Van Horn, TX. Fast forward a few months, I’m watching your videos cause I’ve thought of coming to Crete. Your reasons of leaving Werner, I think are the same gripes I’ve had with several companies. Lack of communication, guessing my pay check, sitting and waiting on the unknown next load, constantly swapping loads for no good reasons. I’ve been driving for seven years and it has been an experience. I’m approved to come over to Crete, I’m just doing my due diligence.

Guys can't thank you enough for basically making a road map for succes in trucking. Enjoy the content and production quality. Be safe

Wow everything you said sounds identical to the reasons why I left my old company. You will find something good 👍

Your a good dude, the longer I watch this the madder I get. Can't believe you lasted a year. Hope the new company takes care of you.

the milage pay and down time waiting around is why i always say this indusrty needs to go to hourly pay so drivers don't get screwed waiting for the next load or to be loaded /unloaded plus breakdowns and such. my .02

Back in 2019 I finished CDL school went straight to Werner for 5 months , got out and lease a truck with a small Company, one year after that I bought a truck. You are not typical, you got potential. good luck.

Kevin, 100% agree with everything you said here. The other thing I’ve noticed about Werner is they don’t care to fix or make things right while working there, but boy oh boy when you say your leaving and actually leave all the sudden you get 20 phone calls about how can we make this right, what can we do to get you to stay, ect…. I said well if you took the time to do this beforehand I’d have consider staying, it’s a little late now.

You are a great employee and your new company will be lucky to have you. Best of luck to you!

I knew you be good driver from first video your technical hood common scenes also you have good personality for videos good luck new venture

What you said is true, I wanted to stick it out for a year for personal pride. I have since got all my endorsements. This will make you MUCH more marketable. Since I got them and put my resume out there, phone is ringing off the hook! I knew I got shorted on pay and yes, payroll couldn't explain why. I asked my FM for it and he always came through. All companies will find a way to mess with pay. You have had great training on this at Werner.

the truck speed, the pre-assigned loads, the lack of miles definitely pushes a driver away. some things you mentioned in this video im currently going through this. its worse when they give you a load after 4 o’clock and you already burned your 14 hr clock waiting on a load

Everything stated in this video is true. Also, you now need appointments for maintenance, even for a team. Was told a day and a half wait to get in for maintenance. Of course every terminal has different wait times. Well done video, thank you for sharing your experience.

Feeling exactly what you are talking about. Only I have about 7 months to go to my year.

I'm at JB Hunt. And they pay good compared to werner when I compared the companies coming out of school

Hey Kevin, good job with clearly and concisely delineating the ten reasons you left Werner! You would have been a good lawyer.

I remeber when we met in Fontana I expressed some discouragement about miles just from watching your videos and comparing it to other channels that I subscribe to. Most of the reasons Brother Kevin mentioned were noticable through the lense of your channel. I won't be going to Werner for all of those reasons. So, congratulations on your new venture!! I'm happy for y'all...

Everything you said, I can vouch for. My husband works for Werner and all the issues you mentioned, he has had. He's been with them 6 months and is looking to find a better company. He's very unhappy with Werner. They definitely don't treat their drivers right.

I definitely know what you mean with the Amazon thing. That's why I decided to get my CDL back and ditch Amazon... Congratulations and good luck on the new job

Also I will say that I had a account that had a guaranteed weekly amount regardless of miles driven, as long as you were available to drive. And then a certain pay over 2700 miles, This did make the shorter runs, live unloads and waiting at shippers less a issue. However my fleet manager and load planners were not good communications people or personable for that matter and made those sides of things more difficult.

AMEN! thank you for this

If you wanted a load, but they took their time, its frustrating. But if you wanted to take a few hours for yourself, they were shoving it up your nose and deep. I liked to have a sense of some control. Took a while to teach our fleet manager thats how we wanted to roll.

Great rants in this video. Way to go Kevin🔥

Very well done video! I’m waiting for my trainer to get me to do my 3 weeks on the road. I’m doing teams OTR and I better be making at least 1200-1500 per week at minimum for it to be worth it. I’ll keep this video in mind once I finish training tho.

Basically the same b.s for all of these mega carriers. I just left dart. I dealt with the exact same pay issue with them. My first week out my truck sat in the shop for 8 days. Be well and best wishes to you out on the road.

The bottom line is most of the company’s take advantage of you then mistreat you to boot.

Kevin you are 100% true. I spent 5 and a half years with Werner and went through all of that, you went through; with the exception of switching Terminals. Werner is a great training company; but know that if you join them, that is what you should expect. Unless they do "an about face" and change and fix all the issues that Kevin mentioned.

Excellent information to take on board, appreciated👌👍

Started in 2017 and new drivers pay was about 39-42 cpm at most companies. Be safe and have fun and the cpms will come up. If you are OTR look at companies that value your home time, there is so much more then just pounding miles. Look into Aquatic if you want to go regional and make decent money. 👌

Damn that’s crazy. As soon I got off school I started at .52c a mile doing flatbed. Which I think it’s good for no experience at all. I do an average of 2700-3400 depending on how you move and all that . At 1 year or 125k miles with the company you get .60c a mile plus .14c per diem base on the miles you did. I’m only doing this for a few years and find something to be local like tankers. Empty miles are paid the same as well.

I hope you are enjoying your time at Crete as your new company!

Love it Kev I feel the same way on most of what you say I love watching your tapes can't wait to see who you went to schneider pays more fyi TTYL

Being held over at a shipper is called detention pay it starts usually after two hours anything over 12 hours is layover pay

This was one of the most sensible/practical reviews of a trucking company I've seen on RU-vid. Appreciate the information and good luck in your future endeavors. Stay safe.

You are spot on!! Everything you said is true. The sad thing is Werner just doesn’t care.

Great video and I totally agree with all your points. I especially agree with the zip code to zip code pay. First I heard of that I figured it was a good thing for the company and NOT the driver who is the one making the money for the company. Anything corporate America can do to screw over the employee.

I'm forty and considering becoming a truckdriver. Your vid is very helpful for someone new to the industry. I'd sure hate for my employer to communicate as badly to me on the road as your average rental car desk, add to that constant pay time inquiries.

I just left Werner aswell and can vouch for everything you said! I thought werner was a good company until I got to my new company that actually shows that they care about their drivers.

Literally everything you said is 1000 percent true im missing 700 miles from one check im behind you

Kevin, you went through the EXACT same situations with Werner as I did with PAM! Communication was really frustrating, pay even more frustrating..

Smith Transportation out of Roaring Spring, PA is a good company IMO. Im getting 2 pre-plans back to back at the end of every delivery practically and it's a bit overwhelming. Not a bad thing.

You hit it right in the head. As you may know, I’m on a dedicated account with Werner, team driving with my brother. This is his last week with Werner before home time but I’m staying with Werner. Now he’s basically leaving mostly because of reason i believe # 8 or 9 on your list. A lot of sacrifice and not being home and then having to chase after your pay or that they cap miles because they pay zip code to code. Now I’ve always wanted to do OTR because I literally want to do the same you did basically, travel the whole country. Hearing not only from you but other Werner OTR drivers, basically having or stating most the same issues you did. That’s what’s holding me back from switching to OTR. In the meantime, I’m going to stay on the dedicated account. If can get get the miles o switch to another solo Werner account. Worst comes to worst; lll do the same and look elsewhere. Just wanted to share my story with you. Best of luck in your next job. Hope to continue seeing your trucking videos, I enjoy them.

It's very difficult and stressful to try and chase your pay out on the road while you're dealing with everything else we have to put up with.

CRST does the same thing with Pay!!!! Everything you said about chasing the pay was what I dealt with at that company as well, if they don't pay you on time, they should make good on it right then when it's brought up, not put it on the next check.....

Nice presentation, drvr. 👍

If you have hazmat then I recommend hauling propane/ butane gas it pays good, i was making 950$ a week 05-08, and you are home alot

You are spot on, #1, money. #2, miles.

I work for water for a little while I was making 12 to 1500 bucks a week. That was take home pay. My problem was Warner was getting home I'd ask for home time and they would take up to two weeks to get me home for 2 days. But the main reason I quit is that Bendix system. That automatic braking nearly caused multiple accidents daily.

I agree with everything you’re saying. I work with W.E in the dollar tree account and it really sucks but one more month and I’ll be moving forward with another company.

Once you get another year of experience you should consider becoming an owner operator if these fuel prices go down

I'm about to start us express carrier in las Vagas, .70 cpm

Hi Kevin, current Werner driver here. You and I are about the same age and experience levels. I had a TERRIBLE start, trainer sucked, trucks broke down, terrible miles, etc. I've worked with my FM and finally got settled into what I think is a pretty good account. Werner is a good company but there are lots of issues as you've identified. I'm also committed to doing a year and then evaluating. I appreciate your perspective and wish you the best.

I quit too, but it's a good company to work for. I'm surprised you quit though, thought you were gonna be there for longer. Most of my weeks I drive 3000 miles but because the pay is so low most drivers quit them. I like the company but I got tired with the pay. The zip code pay is crazy

I've been saying for years now, that a sharp lawyer ought to do a class action law suit regarding that zip code to zip code scam. If I'm being paid by the mile and the company routinely doesn't pay all the miles, that just won't be upheld in a court of law. Like you said, imagine and hourly worker being told by his boss, um, well, I don't think I'm going to pay you for all your hours worked.

Nice job Kevin ...im glad you left Werner ...you deserve better...looking forward to new adventures and hopefully a shiny new truck 🤣🤣☝️👊💪👍

Hello Kevin, You look like Clint Eastwood a little bit. I've enjoyed listening to your one your journey. Thanks for keeping it honest. Good luck with your next Company.

Warner brought a company in Pennsylvania ECM the local drivers make more than the road drivers maybe you can see if you can switch and drive for ECM which is owned by Warner and drive locally and you could make around 11 or 1200 a week

I had these same issues with Werner but I never left until it was time for a lifestyle change, because I always assumed that I would have these same problems with any other company.

The main reason I quit was because some of the dispatchers. They were so disrespectful. Crete talks to me like I am a person. There are no forced swapping loads either with Crete. At Werner, they get drivers to wake me up by surprise to take my load. You said the rest.

TJT Thanks for the info. I was a pre-hire, I'll leave the reason out why nothing happened it's corrected but anyways this was very informative, and I will not bad mouth them they are a good company. again thanks

Thank you, I will never try them. It s enough to be tired after driving, I don t want to get tired and stressed for extra like finding empty trailer, getting paid, getting home and all kind stuff that is not supposed to happen

"I am a solo otr driver for...you don't know who". Nice hook. Love it. I became interested in this channel from one of your earlier videos where you did this examination of trucking--is the compensation worth it? I was delighted to find another trucker asking the same questions I have been asking for 22 years, since I first began trucking. Kudos. Werner. Full disclosure. I have known several people who worked for them. I lived in Springfield, Ohio. My son-in-law, in a life crisis, turned to truck driving (Werner) with a pregnant wife, my daughter, and two children. As a seasoned trucker, I gave him my top ten list--the "absolutely do not work for these people" list of mega carriers that I knew to be the worst--from horror stories of hundreds of drivers I have interacted with over the years. Truck drivers love doing one thing above all else--telling their stories and definitely compiling a master list of all the worst offenders in the industry. We veterans really do have the inside-scoop. Werner is right up there with the worst of the worst mega carriers, I am sorry to say. My son-in-law ignored my advice and picked Werner because it was three miles from home. He thought that was a perk. He worked there for ten months and could barely make it home once a month, even though he was on a dedicated Dollar General Account, which was supposed to be regional. He and my daughter were reduced to squalor by Werner over this time frame due to low pay, absence of break-down pay, and general nonsense. My son-in-law is a very hard worker; but he could not make it at Werner, despite his efforts. Sound familiar? My x-husband and I had to step in and help financially, as they quickly became homeless. I loaned them my car and they had to move into my x's house. They were so broke. Of course, this is antecdotal; but it is common for these mega carriers to treat their new drivers so inequitably that often drivers quickly find themselves in financial ruin. How is that? First, I will say that, for people like you and me, older people who do not have little mouths at home to feed, people with less obligations, people who might have better resources to begin with, we often are prepared to weather financial pitfalls that come with a job that is frankly, very unreliable to start. As you know, you have to go through weeks of unpaid training and then after school, be subjected to several more weeks of company training, where you are lucky to gross $400 or $500 weekly and then there are delays getting assigned equipment, unpaid breakdowns while breaking in new equipment, and adjustment period trying to learn the ropes solo and establish a rapport with a dispatcher or fleet manager. I like to refer to the first year of truck driving as bootcamp. They own you. You will go where and do what they say when they say and you will not be compenated a living wage. There will be weeks when things do not go well, where you might hardly get a paycheck at all and there will be periods where you will have to take a monetary advance from the company or go hungry. Everyone new-to-trucking has been through it. After that first year of bootcamp in trucking, if you did not get a speeding ticket and did not wreck, you are off to the races. You made it. Now, go and enjoy a great-paying job, if you are lucky to find a nice company. Getting back to the typical, majority of young people coming out of trucking school... I believe that most young families turn to trucking as last resort because most working class jobs in the US today do not pay a living wage and people hear rumors that trucking pays six figures. Not true for most trucking jobs. So, when most people go to trucking school and start training at that first job, they are already behind financially. Most are in dire need and of course, as you know, it takes many weeks to get behind that wheel solo and start earning. So, alot of new truckers find they are pretty desperate and in great financial need by the time they finally start really earning, only to discover they chose a company that not only pays around minimum wage, when you factor in the hours worked, but that is also out to cheat them at every turn, keep them trapped in a cycle of desperation, not really getting the good miles, not getting home to see the wife and kids, missing out on birthdays and such, and barely eeking out enough to keep bills paid back home, while going hungry and borrowing advances from the company. This is by design that these big companies do this to new drivers. It benefits the company two-fold. One, keeps labor costs down and two, keeps the drivers trapped, staying with the company longer. Why is that? Well, a driver may want to quit; but is far from home and does not have money to get home and also, the driver cannot afford to be unemployed for the several weeks it takes to procure the next trucking job, get to the geographic location, and go through more weeks of low-paid training and wait on equipment assignment. Not to mention it is very difficult to find a next trucking job, while away from home driving a truck, working fourteen hours a day or longer. A big problem here in the US is that trucking companies have lobbied the government to rig the rules in their favor, leaving the drivers all too often at their mercy. They by-pass or have exemptions from many labor laws and just short drivers regularly on pay at every turn. :( It is a problem industry-wide; but their are exceptions to this. LTL companies, for example, do a fantastic job compensating drivers for every minute worked. I worked for Estes and Old Dominion. Got paid for every single second of work performed quite literally. So, I respect and appreciate your story of the last year. I am glad you found some happy experiences amongst alot of unfair treatment and low compensation. I am so very happy you have been able to have your lovely partner along. It must be recognized that for most new truck drivers, they do not get to keep their loved-one in the truck by their side to soften the blows of how harshly these mega carriers treat their new drivers. Imagine being a new driver, going through all of this, all alone. It is brutal. And also, I would say that, when I weigh Werner, even against your own metrics of employer performance, Werner fails on all the most important metrics. Pay, miles, meeting the demands of an otr driver vs. a local or regional driver, equipment repair process, compensation for delays, such as repairs and waiting in a dock, competence of fleet manager and dispatch, and inter-departmental commmunication, which is paramount. I have a total of fifteen years. I have worked for nine companies. Sounds like a lot. I worked for one mega carrier. Two LTL companies. a few small companies, one local. A tanker company. I learned that if things aren't going well within the first three months, I am out. Pay, equipment, miles, driver/dispatcher relationship, company culture. These are my metrics in order of importance. As long as your driving record is squeaky clean, you can have a million trucking jobs and they'll just keep hiring you. Job longevity in trucking counts for nothing. We are bodies. The trucks are numbers. Once in a while, you get lucky and find a job where they actually see you and know you and care about you in trucking. I think this channel is great and a service to newbies. Keep up your great work. Here are a couple things to keep in mind. Ask your next fleet manager and your next dispatcher how many drivers they manage? That will tell you all you need to know. My company: seven dispatchers, 108 drivers all total. Every one of the dispatchers addresses me by my first name when I call in and they all know my face and where I live. Pretty personal. All best. Hope this new job is everything you hope it will be. Safe travels. And also, you really do a good job articulating your experience and your views in these videos and your co-pilot is delightful!