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BAKU - The 20th century was one of the most violent and destructive periods in history. Millions upon millions had perished. At the centre of the hostility was Germany. Yet, over the course of the two world wars and the cold war, the government in Berlin underwent fundamental changes that continue to shape the behaviour and the geopolitical mindset of German policymakers.
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@hansdampf4377
@hansdampf4377 6 лет назад
Another great video. There is one point though where I would disagree and this is the one at 8:55 whith the claim that Eastern Germans want Government solutions in difference to the Western Germans. It's actually a bit more complex. Many Eastern Germans are very suspicious about the government and the media, because of their bad experiences during the Communist regime. They have developed a sense to smell when things go bad and the massive decline after 1990 has attributed a lot to an attitute not to rely or trust the government. In the West on the other hand, most people had it really nice since WW2 and they are completeley oblivious towards government and media manipulation. They still fundamentally trust the public sphere, which is why they don't realize the adverse effects of more government control and increased public spending towards Socialism. This complete lack of understanding of the extremely negative experience made by Eastern Germans contributes a lot to the political, social and cultural frictions between West and East.
@xasthurwithin4178
@xasthurwithin4178 6 лет назад
Increased public spending? German government currently pursues austerity politics. Also, increased government spending =/= socialism. I don't think the resentment of the East is based of criticism of increased government spending, also please realize that the majority of the East Germans never wanted to abandon socialism.
@dersimon
@dersimon 6 лет назад
Not really. Tax payments are on a all time record high and germany raises its dept due reassurances for foreign credit / euro-countrys to keep them in the euro-zone. In 1990, most people in east germany voted against socialism. And leftist partys which lean towards socialism never had a mayority again.
@xasthurwithin4178
@xasthurwithin4178 6 лет назад
What has that to do with domestic government investment? I know the taxes are high, I'm suffering from them myself.
@karimshebeika8010
@karimshebeika8010 6 лет назад
There is so many layers to this. Not just voting behavior but also drifts in party policies are important here. Plus the federal structure
@hurrdurr3615
@hurrdurr3615 6 лет назад
Thing is, there was no massive decline after 1990 in prosperity. There was simply a change of system and mass migration to the west, but prosperity went up pretty fast after reunification.
@Hans_Niemand
@Hans_Niemand 5 лет назад
Acutally, Prussia had to be a "powerhouse" in order to avoid being a (Holy Roman Empire style) punching bag. Prussian militarism was a reaction, not the core problem.
@kenji9730
@kenji9730 4 года назад
@mr_ anheuser What about the british empire? They were much worse.
@ragingsage3973
@ragingsage3973 4 года назад
@mr_ anheuser Define 'Destructive'. People forget that the British caused millions of deaths across it's Empire (especially in India)
@heinrichmirgrautsvordir6613
@heinrichmirgrautsvordir6613 4 года назад
@mr_ anheuser They caused a few thousand casualties, but the people responsible for this atrocity were ordered back and questioned by the german parlament. Thats more then the british ever did.
@heinrichmirgrautsvordir6613
@heinrichmirgrautsvordir6613 4 года назад
@mr_ anheuser Well, german colonialism caused a few thousand casualties whereas the british caused a few million. I am not judging, obviously both sides committed genocides, I just think its wrong to talk about it like as if the germans were the only ones, to not give a shit about the native population.
@johnthewizard1595
@johnthewizard1595 4 года назад
@Il Dotten Well he's right that "Prussia" (Germany) didn't start WWI. I have to disagree with WWII though. Attacking a big foreign nation that was just established after a peace treaty; you can't expect UK and France to sit still tbh. Of course they declared war on Germany. On the other hand, I actually think that Germany would've stopped after getting their territories back and get some stupid "Lebensraum". It would most likely never have declared war on the whole world itself. But that's just my opinion and is irrelevant anyway. I'm glad to not live in a dictatorship tbh.
@LawnMeower
@LawnMeower 5 лет назад
Nowadays Germany is divided into Aldi Nord and Aldi Süd...
@jakebeaker4243
@jakebeaker4243 5 лет назад
lmao
@cestrellfrostmuurne1774
@cestrellfrostmuurne1774 4 года назад
FÜR VATERLAND UND ALDI SÜD
@vonscorpi2748
@vonscorpi2748 4 года назад
@@cestrellfrostmuurne1774 Aldi Süd für immer!
@dKorl1
@dKorl1 4 года назад
@@vonscorpi2748 jetzt mal ernsthaft wer geht in aldi nord rein und sagt hier ist es besser als aldi süd
@HexenkoeniginVonAngmar
@HexenkoeniginVonAngmar 4 года назад
Ich hab nen ALDI Süd in England gesehen xD
@montanus777
@montanus777 6 лет назад
1) germany _did_ have a revolution in 1848/49. it didn't succeed in the long run, but saying germany didn't have a bourgeoisie revolution is like saying the french revolution didn't happen, just because napoleon I. and napoleon III. later became french emperors. 2) in west germany there were still former nazis in positions of power and/or influence (like judges, teachers, secret agents and politicians/political advisors) until at least the late 60ies / early 70ies - e.g. hans globke (one of the co-authors of the nuremberg racial laws, who later became the head of the chancellery under chancellor adenauer) or reinhard gehlen (who was a major general under hitler and later founded the german intelligence service BND). it took roughly one generation to get rid off the old nazis and remaining nazi ideas in west germany and was mainly initiated by those born after the war. i would even argue that it was a good thing that it was initated by this generation, because they weren't the ones who lost the war and they didn't need to pander to the western allies. they did it because they believed it was the right thing to do - not out of diplomatic necessity. 3) west germany didn't really _learn_ to solve regional problems on a regional level (in contrast to centralized solutions) _after WW2._ 'regionalism/federalism' is/was an old german(ic) tradition anyway and was applied for centuries - actually even millenia. in fact the east german centralism was actually 'totally ungerman' and is a relatively new phenomenon that only occured after the nazis took over and was continued by the socialist regime. west germany on the other hand just became 'typically german' (i.e. non-centralized) _again_ after the nazis lost the war. 4) the far-left (usually) isn't anti-immigration (anymore). they are however anti-EU though. other than that a pretty good analysis for someone who doesn't live in germany.
@dragonflyerstern156
@dragonflyerstern156 4 года назад
The far-left (Die Grünen, Die Linke) are monstly pro-Eu. I think the AFD is the only "anti-EU" more like anti-one-big-state-called-EU and anti-Euro in the parlament.
@biggsdarklighter0473
@biggsdarklighter0473 3 года назад
@@dragonflyerstern156 there are other parties which are anti-EU and anti-NATO on the left(MLPD), but those aren't Major political Players in Germany.
@tobene
@tobene 3 года назад
@@dragonflyerstern156 die Grüne is not really far left, especially not when they are part of the government.
@erikperik1671
@erikperik1671 6 лет назад
I have been born and raised in East-Germany and live in West-Germany now. One of the fundamental differences between East-Germans and West-Germans on the personal level is a much stronger individualism in the West versus a much stronger group-identity in the East. It took me more than ten years in the west to realize, that West-Germans don't call themselves "West-Germans". (Almost) only East-Germans use terms like "Ossi" ("Easterner") or "Wessi" ("Westerner"). Most West-Germans do not know that they are seen as some kind of foreigners - identified by their group-membership rather than their individual personality - by easterners.
@t-bone9239
@t-bone9239 5 лет назад
Gibts in Westdeutschland doch auch. Nur sind das hier nicht die Wessis sondern die Bayern, Schwaben etc
@maxkraus7063
@maxkraus7063 5 лет назад
Ich bin im Westen aufgewachsen und ganz ehrlich ohne dieses ständige ossi wessi gelaber hätte ich das alles gar nicht mitbekommen. Sehen wir uns endlich wieder als deutsche Brüder egal was war und bringen diese dumme Trennung hinter uns
@BLACKSTA361
@BLACKSTA361 5 лет назад
Deutsche bürger😂😂
@subjectnamehere3023
@subjectnamehere3023 5 лет назад
It's hard for me to wrap my head around the individualism vs. group-identity thing since I've only lived in East Germany yet and couldn't observe the difference myself. Does that mean that West Germans identify less with groups like their nationality for example? I've had the impression that many West-Germans (above a certain age group perhaps) also identify as German pretty strongly. The Ossi-Wessi distinction is increasingly unpopular amonst young people in East Germany (I'm 22), but more subtle differences in mindset will probably persist a little longer and it would be useful to have a concept of them.
@redeye3448
@redeye3448 5 лет назад
Ost deutsche braucht keiner alles dumme versoffene Penner! hoffe die Mauer kommt bald wieder
@chelsii5118
@chelsii5118 4 года назад
Germany is like "Can I go to the toilet please?" "I don't know if you can but you're allowed to"
@user-vl3tm4co4b
@user-vl3tm4co4b 3 года назад
:D
@derlesende
@derlesende 3 года назад
Every teacher says that every time.
@MT-st9rk
@MT-st9rk 3 года назад
Only if you pay 50 euro cents first!!!
@christianschuster4184
@christianschuster4184 3 года назад
"Can" in German means also "allowed to", when you ask a teacher: "Can I please go to the toilet!", nobody expects you to ask if you are able to do so (physically, mentally). So replace "can" at this point with "may", then you hit the nail on the head.
@burkhardstackelberg1203
@burkhardstackelberg1203 3 года назад
Well translated :D You really find dialogues like this in Germany.
@charlesxll7925
@charlesxll7925 6 лет назад
The idea that the Prussian culture was the reason that the NSDAP came into power is completely absurd. The old Prussian aristocracy was in strict opposition to the Nazis. Just because the two ideologies were based on militarism and authoritarianism doesn't make them the same (or even that similar). Edit: I honestly don't know what the fuck I intended to write originally but it certainly wasn't "The idea that the Prussian culture was the reason that the NSDAP is completely absurd." so I added "came into power " to make the comment less dyslectic. (Disclaimer: I do not have dyslexia, I just never proof read what I've writen.)
@michaelgrabner8977
@michaelgrabner8977 6 лет назад
It´s not about the prussian aristocracy at all..aristocracy lost already their political power after WWI anyway..... and because as you said many of them were in strict opposition to the Nazis...but simply the prussian people´s way of living mainly known as "culture" for centuries by being a militaristic society and much more important by being blind obedient to the authorities..that was ment (and since when is "culture" an exclusive pure aristocratical term which you imply in your whole comment?)... and that was the reason why the Nazis got so easy in power..because it was a decision of polls = people´s decision..which brought the Nazis in power in the first place...because the Nazis promised to rebuild the "Deutsche Reich" ....but just much better than the old one and for the next 1000 years instead of just 47..and the avarage people back then simply loved to hear such words...of course who won´t back then...especially after being humbled by the Triple Entente in Versailles so badly... so they voted for them for having a better life...well and as we all know at some point life got worse ..
@michaelgrabner8977
@michaelgrabner8977 6 лет назад
transylvanian I don´t deny what you are saying but that was not the case for the majority of the people..(a huge number of long-time unemployed people got suddenly work back then)....but for political opponents, homosexuals, immigrants and jews.. and the re-militarization was mostly pre-sponsered by certain american Billionairs by the way because they ecpected to make a big buck..also the worldbank gave huge credits.... Then the dept was so high so they were simply forced to go to war to gain foreign resources and materials...and don´t get me wrong.. that´s no excuse for what happened back then..I really don´t defend them..
@MrBsct
@MrBsct 6 лет назад
And what side did the Prussian aristocracy support? The Nazis. National Socialism was the unification of the Nationalistic upper and middle class to the Socialistic proletariat. "Why take from the rich when you can take from the Jews and neighbors?" Basically.
@red9man2130
@red9man2130 6 лет назад
I agree to a point. I think BOTH fed off each other and tried to manipulate each other for their own ends. remember Germany came late to the colonial era. also culturally Germans are very tribal it is at once their greatest strength and also their greatest weakness at the same time.
@michaelgrabner8977
@michaelgrabner8977 6 лет назад
transylvanian Well ..in the first years the first jobs were in fact mainly infrastructural Jobs like building streets and the Autobahn...but also housing... although you can also say that building those streets was just for maintaining supplies for the troops..but that would be a bit too short minded because of the economical factor and the positiv effects streets have for the economy...although it´s true to a certain point
@Bottlekiller
@Bottlekiller 6 лет назад
Soooooo much wrong in this video: 1. Prussia was defacto already dissolved in 1932 with the "Preußenschlag" by the German government at the time, leaving only an empty non-sovereign husk behind that was essentially just a mere cultural region from that point forward. 2. Crediting solely the Marshal Plan for the recovery of West-Germany is simply wrong, there were a multitude of other factors at play such as the currency reform and returning German soldiers in need of work, as well as a whole host of other beneficial factors. West-Germany received only a fracture of the total Marshal Plan funding, which was about the same amount as the Netherlands received. France and Britain meanwhile received tons more and were overall way less destroyed than Germany, yet they didn't see a meteoric economic rise in the way West-Germany experienced it. 3. It's "Pegida", not "Pediga". And they are not a party like the AfD or the NPD, they're a populist street movement basically. 4. The idea that the government ought to step in and help is not an exclusively East-German mindset, it applies to all of Germany. Since Germany is a highly collectivist society. Sorry, your stuff is usually really good Shirvan, but this one was not so good. Edit: Saw that the comment gained traction again, thus went over the grammar to make it a bit clearer to understand. Also toned down the language a bit.
@phily708
@phily708 5 лет назад
Bottlekiller 1. Still the wish to have a great army came from old Prussia times 2. The west received money (not to use: it was fed) but the east never and they even payed! -->Economical difference before the Wall fell 3. sure but most Pegida members vote for Afd +I've got another wrong fact: Dielinke isn't against refugees It's one of parties with the most members being pro multiculturalism ; but yeah they've also got some populists.
@ivanvongreiff8177
@ivanvongreiff8177 5 лет назад
@bottlekiller homie, you named 4 errors, one of which was spelling and all of which are debatable, on a 10 minute video with about 1 sentence per 5-10 seconds. sooo much bullcrap is a liiiitle bit bullcrap. call it out but say it how it is.
@innosanto
@innosanto 5 лет назад
The Nazi party had contributed in and supported building some industries that were used in the post-war period and which supported the industrial development of Germany. Is this a fairly correct statement? It is my impression that it is one of the factors. Or is that not the case?
@maxkraus7063
@maxkraus7063 5 лет назад
@@liksar lol germany had to repay als well? You thought they just donated that money or what
@maxkraus7063
@maxkraus7063 5 лет назад
@@phily708 so the wish for a great army in France and Britain and USA and China is also based on Preußen?
@user-tv4tf3si3k
@user-tv4tf3si3k 6 лет назад
Your economic and historical insight is strong, but your political analysis is dated and inaccurate.
@Sondariut
@Sondariut 6 лет назад
Quinten Lorinczi Even the historical insight is lacking. The idea that the bourgeoisie didn't effect germany in the 19th century is insane considering the revolutions and political movements that happened at the time.
@JakeJustIs
@JakeJustIs 5 лет назад
Very much so. It seems that West Germans are the ones seeking more government involvement into the lives of, well frankly, all of Europe. East Germans remember to some level the stagnation effect of central planning.
@argadargad9128
@argadargad9128 5 лет назад
@@gladifly He is Azerbaijani
@pmmeurcatpics
@pmmeurcatpics 5 лет назад
@@argadargad9128 really? Wow
@amarsven
@amarsven 4 года назад
@Gaius Wyrden Germany had a revolution in 1948. Also Prussia and later the German Empire had a constitution and a parliament. Thus it wasn't an absolute monarchy.
@stalles4128
@stalles4128 4 года назад
Your Analysis of the prussian eara is incorrect. Germany had revolutions prior to ww1. They had little success but forced the Gouvernement to make some form of Parlament and recognise at least the people as a unignorable force in the country. And your Part on kapitalist conservatives leading to rascist socialisms is just a thesis without any reasoning. The later analysis of the current German state is fairly correct and interessting.
@richard_nj
@richard_nj 4 года назад
Very true, the revolution of 1848/49, while unsuccessful if judged by its goals, has been the main basis for all forms of democracy on German territory since then. The constitution of the Weimar Republic is basically a copy of the one proposed in 1849 with the monarchy angle cut out and even in the Grundgesetz, the current constitution, a majority of laws find their roots in that revolution
@frankySR21
@frankySR21 6 лет назад
I usually think you do a good job of presenting material with an objective outlook, but lately this hasn’t been the case. This video in particular is heavily one-sided and simplistic. Seems like you didn’t delve very deeply into the “bourgeois revolutions” and are trying to portray Germany as some autocratic regime from the outset when the truth is not so simple. Germany wasn’t as liberal as say Britain or, to a lesser degree, France but it was far from what you’re implying. That coupled with your uncritical acceptance of Prussia being the root of nazism and your labeling of benign forms of nationalism as “extreme” really have me question either your research or your intentions. Not sure which is worse.
@TheLovescream
@TheLovescream 4 года назад
I always make the argument that in 1918 a higher percentage of people in Germany had the right to vote when compared to Britain...
@cratarata2278
@cratarata2278 4 года назад
TheLovescream Britain was still more democratic though
@baul997
@baul997 4 года назад
Well the thing is Bismark just knew on how too keep the liberals just happy enough too not start a revolution and we did have some violent communist revolutions especially after the ww1 that were beaten down by a fascist Para military movement
@michaelrichardzirbes8503
@michaelrichardzirbes8503 6 лет назад
According to Alexander Clark, your views on Prussia are not right. They are based on the idea of ​​the "German special way". This view is clearly criticized and questioned in modern historical science.
@rudolfkraffzick642
@rudolfkraffzick642 3 года назад
The videos view of Prussia is based a lot on the western antiprussian propaganda in WW1. Around 1900 Prussia was highly industrialised, the upper bourgeoisie was the leading class 0and urged the politicans to compete especially with Great Britain. Before 1914, the later allies spent much more money for the military than Germany-Prussia. Besides, Hitler and most Nazi leaders were southern and western Germans.
@yournewnightmare2551
@yournewnightmare2551 6 лет назад
Oversimplifieing many things After 1/3 of the Video is filled with halftruths and lies
@DrewPicklesTheDark
@DrewPicklesTheDark 6 лет назад
This video is totally not biased /s I normally like your videos, but this one seems like not enough research was put in.
@reschi56
@reschi56 6 лет назад
The "far right" AFD is quite similair to our SVP in Switzerland, which is our biggest party. So is Switzerland "radical" and "authoritarian" in your opinion?
@phil3114
@phil3114 6 лет назад
Not a fan of Swirtzerland for exactly that reason. Lot's of cool and laid back Swiss around, but some of them give me the creeps with their attitudes.
@reschi56
@reschi56 6 лет назад
Phil the people in Switzerland which give you the creeps have probably more than enough reasons for their attitude. And the cool and laid back Swiss are often possessed by a destructive ignorance.
@phil3114
@phil3114 6 лет назад
Spleydi We all have our reasons. Even murderers habe their reason for what they are doing. I am not sure how much of an argument that is. And being laid back is the opposite of bein destructive, so without further elaboration this does not make much sense, either. Care to explain?
@theslasher89
@theslasher89 6 лет назад
The SVP is the biggest party with a share of 25-30% of the votes. Nontheless, when it comes to radical policies they are usually isolated against the other 70-75%. But in reality it's always more complicated. There are individuals in the party that are far-right and others that are just right-leaning conservatives.
@reschi56
@reschi56 6 лет назад
Disagree, there is/was something called "bürgerlicher Schulterschluss" wich means mor or less "bourgeoisie" or "patriotic" solidarity and it refered to the cooperation of the right wing parties (SVP "national conservatives",FDP"capitalist/libertarians" and CVP "christian conservatives") against the left. But indeed, the SVP fights more and more alone as the CVP and FDP drift further and further to the left. Especially the FDP has smelled the blood in the water which comes from the social democrats. But nonetheless, we're talking about Switzerland, we have direct democracy. The SVP can change things as long as they manage to get the people on their side. They're the reason why Switzerland isn't in the EU after all. And the SVP doesn't make radical policies and they're not a radical party, that was my point. Letting in way over a million people in your country on the other hand is quite radical as it brings radical change to your country and it's probably illegal according to the laws of the union you're in but nobody is calling Merkel a radical. CaspianReport has used many buzzwords in this video which reveal his political bias.
@gordonwalker490
@gordonwalker490 4 года назад
1:30 While the revolution of 1848 ultimate failed in Germany, to say Germany wasn't affected is an understatement
@learster12
@learster12 6 лет назад
Hi Shirvan, the idea that Prussian culture was the root cause of Nazism and German militarism has been touted for a while but recently there are some works out there that do a good job at arguing against this. I suggest “Iron Kingdom” by Christopher Clark.
@gryf92
@gryf92 6 лет назад
1. Prussia was balamed bc othervise you had to blame germans as a whole. It was scapegoating. 2.Prussian elites were ones that opposed Hitler the most. 3. Cutting Germany out of manpower was essential to ensure French and Russians. 4.It was just a justification for spoils of war that allies got.
@johnmaxwell1750
@johnmaxwell1750 6 лет назад
Prussian culture was a factor that facilitated the rise of the Nazis, but it was only one contributing factor. Other factors and traditions were important, such as a real Communist threat, racial identification, Volk mysticism, and anti-Semitism.
@erikmartin3786
@erikmartin3786 6 лет назад
In my opinion, a true Prussian supports the aristocracy and the royal monarchy. National Socialism is antithetical to both.
@KatGlos
@KatGlos 6 лет назад
I agree, this is outdated allied propaganda.
@johnmaxwell1750
@johnmaxwell1750 6 лет назад
Erik Martin. Parts of Prussian culture that facilitated the rise of the Nazis included Prussian militarism (in the Wehrmacht officer corps many surnames were preceded by "von"); historic Prussian expansionism; historic Prussian authoritarianism. These and other aspects of Prussian culture helped the Nazis gain control and rule.
@es2139
@es2139 6 лет назад
"Prussia was the source of recurring pestilence, and that its destruction was a symbolic necessity" Churchill was dead right! And the video lost all credibility!
@marco26gdm
@marco26gdm 6 лет назад
Churchill WAS right.
@es2139
@es2139 6 лет назад
Got any proofs?
@KubusSc7
@KubusSc7 6 лет назад
That's where he lost me as well. Who says something ridicolous as that, cannot be taken seriously any longer.
@Michael-wn4jj
@Michael-wn4jj 6 лет назад
Prussia was a good ally of the British for centuries, wasn't it?
@KubusSc7
@KubusSc7 6 лет назад
That only started during the 7 year "world" war in 1756-63 during Frederick The Great's reign, when Prussia was basically alone and surrounded by all major powers, Austria, Russia, France and Sweden, who wanted to break Prussia up. Frederick's only ally was Britain, because they were also opposed to France because of colonization of America.
@iglutv7758
@iglutv7758 6 лет назад
You are simplifieing too much Shirvan. First of all: I am a muslim turk that lives in Germany and I am not a fan of Pegida or die Linke. Now to the points you are simplifieing too much: -Pegida is arguably xenophobic, but not alt-right/far-right. For some strange reason, european rights have no issues with other european rights and a large portion of them don´t even have issues with qualified or well-behaving non-european foreigners. I had a friend in school that supported the NPD (a clear right party). In this regards, right parties don´t argue against migrants in general, but for preserving their own culturue, which is (to a certain degree) understandable. -Left or far-left parties on the other hand, are usually immigration friendly. They sometimes even exaggerate it with their diversity and what should be allowed and what shouldn´t. Die Linke for example might not be far-left, but they support the legalization of the PKK and openly support the PKK ideological wise. -What you ignore the entire time, is the fact that Western-Germany has traditionally wealthy cities. Hamburg, Frankfurt, Ravensburg and so on, were relativly rich, sometimes even super-rich cities/city-states. In Mannheim Mercedes was even found and up to this day it plays an important role in the automobile-industry. Eastgermany on the other hand has none of these, which is why a huge difference appears in the first place. However not even Westgermany has an equal standard. Munish for example is one of the wealthiest cities in all of Germany. The income there is significantlly higher than in almost all other german cities. The same goes for prices there. -The last thing I would like to mention (what you didn´t cover at all), is the shift from militarism to a trade-based-ideology/mindset. Your average guy in Germany is more worried about his income or his personal prosperity than the country or its military capabilities. This is not only stopping German aggression in Europe, but is also providing stability to Europe. That´s one of the most important aspects of the German mindset.
@iglutv7758
@iglutv7758 6 лет назад
To all the "muh migration is baaadd!!!!" guys: Maybe have a proper system that integrates the people well and maybe having more children would help out? I was in a multicultural and multi-ethnical school in Germany and despite all of the diversity there, the least saw themselves as foreigners, but instead they saw themselves as germans. The same applies to for example muslim "non-germans" like turks. Sure some see themselves as turks and some are even against integration, but the vast majority see Germany as their home in which they want to live peacefully and provide for themselves and the society. Looking how well presented turks in Germany are (parliament, national soccer team, artists, youtuber, known-public-figures, [...]), Germany is doing quite well with its migrants.
@skywalker7778
@skywalker7778 6 лет назад
IgluTV Agree!
@CugelTheClever458
@CugelTheClever458 6 лет назад
IgluTV Die ausgewogensten Ansichten kommen anscheinend immer von uns Ausländern denen das Land wichtig ist...
@djprojectus
@djprojectus 6 лет назад
IgluTV How to fuck can you see yourself as a german when you are not german to begin with? A turk born in Germany is still a turk with some german cultural influences, nothing more no matter how much you self deceive yourself,you will never be german no matter how integrated you think you are! You are just making excuses for more imigration because you are an imigrant or a son of an imigrant ! Germany is not the melting pot that Brazil or USA is so you are spelling bulshit! I am not german but germans have the right to their own country free of millions of turks,arabs,africans and so on! Nobody asked them if they want imigration,it was just shoved down their troats by the alogen government and you and the rest of the migrants are just accomplices to the genocidal government! Thats it,the rest are just excuses from your part to stay in Germany when you have a bigger country: Turkey!
@_bob9740
@_bob9740 6 лет назад
IgluTV It's not that migration is bad, it's that Middle eastern and sub Saharan migration into Europe is bad because these cultures are incompatible with the west.Turkey could be considered an exception because they are fairy civilized. People from Afghanistan,Pakistan,Bangladesh,Nigeria,Somalia can rarely be integrated into the west, and letting these peoples in is more problem than gain.
@jamestang1227
@jamestang1227 6 лет назад
Did you base some of the "post-communist" mentality from your experience as an Azerbaijani?
@jamestang1227
@jamestang1227 6 лет назад
This was meant as an honest question, not any sort of attack or insult. I honestly have no idea of what you're asking from me.
@roylandmaines299
@roylandmaines299 6 лет назад
Al Demir yeah I think it wasn't an aggressive question even it might be interpreted as so.
@aldemir6127
@aldemir6127 6 лет назад
Sorry gentleman's.
@jamestang1227
@jamestang1227 6 лет назад
Al Demir It's OK.
@aldemir6127
@aldemir6127 6 лет назад
James Tang 👍👍👍👍
@konstantina.1434
@konstantina.1434 5 лет назад
I have to say, that I, as a German, can not really identify with most things said in the video. Despite of some mistakes (stated in other comments), this video does not reflect the German mindset very well. In my opinion, there was too much focus on the west-east conflict, which implies that this is present in everyday life. I am rarely confronted with this though. Far more important is our self-understanding with the impacts of the world wars, the genocide and the resulting educational goals. I do travel a lot and am involved in many cultural-exchange programs. As I experienced, what “differs” the mindset of Germans the most, is our sensibility for certain topics, that we try hard to be political correct, include people, I think everything that comes from a intense reprocessing of nazi-Germany history and the divided Germany. This is just one example of “what to learn” from this period, but I think it is great to show, that the solely focus on east-west issues is not drawing an accurate picture.
@yokoono42
@yokoono42 6 лет назад
The remark about east german companies going bankrupt because of "inefficiencies" is not quite correct. During the currency conversion from Ostmark to D-Mark the government used a ratio of ~1:2. Good for everyone with savings in the east but bad for the state owned companies as they had loans from the state. The "true" value was around 1:7; so every company with a state-loan went virtually bankrupt overnight, regardless of production efficiency.
@useodyseeorbitchute9450
@useodyseeorbitchute9450 5 лет назад
Hint: in other post-communist countries such companies also faced a huge wave of bankruptcies. German blames money exchange rate. In Poland we use as scapegoat evil foreigners who were buying Polish companies and closing them to get rid of competitors (for other people who were emotionally not involved it looked more as corporate raiders who discovered that greatest achievements of socialism are worth the most as scrap metal).
@ThomasZadro
@ThomasZadro 3 года назад
There was no production efficiency in East German companies. Even a exchange rate of 1:100 had not avoided the bankruptcy of the majority of these companies as even the East Germans didn‘t buy this stuff - you cannot save an economy with Spreegurken.
@HxH2011DRA
@HxH2011DRA 6 лет назад
Damn you went plus ultra on the graphics this time around
@EarthForces
@EarthForces 6 лет назад
The Hunter x Hunter 2011 Dickriding Association Thumbs up for the username and yes excellent as usual from Shirvan here.
@johnrambo7903
@johnrambo7903 6 лет назад
Plvs Vltra (Plus Ultra) is the Spanish and very old Roman motto. That's how Spain conquered the world. :-D
@theguyyouregoingtoban6709
@theguyyouregoingtoban6709 6 лет назад
The Hunter x Hunter 2011 Dickriding Association Caspian ain't fuckin around
@johnrambo7903
@johnrambo7903 6 лет назад
Plvs Vltra=Further Beyond. Plus ultra ("Further beyond") is a Latin motto and the national motto of Spain. It is taken from the personal motto of Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor and King of Spain, and is a reversal of the original phrase Non plus ultra ("Nothing further beyond"). This was said to have been inscribed as a warning on the Pillars of Hercules at the Strait of Gibraltar, which marked the edge of the known world. Charles adopted the motto following the discovery of the New World by Columbus, and it also has metaphorical suggestions of taking risks and striving for excellence. Spain is a great nation with a rich history and a great culture.
@Jon-mh9lk
@Jon-mh9lk 6 лет назад
I think it's an insult to lump the Prussians together with the Nazis. Prussia not only was a militarily advanced country, but it was also an economic and industrial powerhouse with modern east germany at its center. They are responsible for the unification of germany and their militarism was what made this possible in the first place. During the Weimar Republic the Free State of Prussia was the most democratically advanced country in germany and its militarism had already been undermined. It's very easy to characterize Prussia as the antagonist of the Nazi-Party during that period. After the second world war Prussia as a political entity had already perished under the Nazi "Gleichschaltung". It was only symbolically abolished by the allies. Due to the destruction during the war (which was focused on Prussia) and due to the communist occupation, the lands (which had been drastically downsized) and people of Prussia (of whom many were forced to migrate to west germany from their lands that were now repopulated by poles and russians) were completely obliterated and forgotten. Now - you could say - the last remnants of this once thriving country, who hate the way they are now treated by west germany, are regaining a local and national identity, which is very distinct from prior german identities. And you just stigmatize them as "radical". Now the new left just continues what Nazis and communists had started: The destruction of distinct german cultures first by forcible coordination and now by population replacement is in the interest of a central elite that likes to make its countries people denounce and hate themselves. I am one of the germans who think that germany should have never become a part of the west.
@KubusSc7
@KubusSc7 6 лет назад
Excellent post, I salute you.
@grae1987
@grae1987 6 лет назад
Cheers for that post!.. im of Prussian decent and live in outback Australia.. its so hard to find information about the state of Prussia politically and socially before, during ans between both world wars, that is not overly biased or judging through the lens of todays hindsight..
@KubusSc7
@KubusSc7 6 лет назад
Geezey 87 The Iron Kingdom on amazon.
@SaucyJack97
@SaucyJack97 6 лет назад
I highly recommend this book as well. It's a refreshing piece on what made the German state possible, without all that bs post war defamation that you see in many other modern pieces.
@KubusSc7
@KubusSc7 6 лет назад
What I like especially about it, was that it was written in a very objective way. Very refreshing to read german history without the constant mention of the 12 years during Hitler's reign. There is a whole passage about Hitler and how he came to power, tho. That should be teached in the schools instead of indoctrination with german guilt.
@Tosse901
@Tosse901 5 лет назад
never experienced the revolutions in the 19th century? Ever heard of Revolution of 1848? And the paulskirchen constitution? And of course the industrial revolution also took place in germany, so I really don't know why the society would be different to most other european societies at that time.
@amineel6237
@amineel6237 4 года назад
That's Greece.
@karolusp.9741
@karolusp.9741 6 лет назад
This is a pretty bad assessment, Shirvan. It overemphasizes the old German division within a framework similar to Fukuyama's teleological way of thinking. If anything, such '90s way of thinking might be outdated within the contemporary post-recession context. Your understanding of its pre-WW2 history is also riddled with outdated assumptions like the Sonderweg thesis, which is now debunked by mainstream historians. I don't think you should have done this, if you couldn't reach an objective point of view required to properly address the German mindset.
@TheBooklyBreakdown
@TheBooklyBreakdown 5 лет назад
Oh, shut up
@Nicarand
@Nicarand 4 года назад
@@TheBooklyBreakdown Well, he's right, though.
@DonDadda45
@DonDadda45 4 года назад
@@TheBooklyBreakdown "Objective facts don't agree with my screwed worldview, SHUT UP BEFORE I ACTUALLY HAVE TO START THINKING!!!!"
@notesscrotes4360
@notesscrotes4360 6 лет назад
>Western Germany is different because they liberalized and shunned ex-nazis while the east hired them as spies >East Germany’s economy is bad 27 years after the fall of the Soviet Union because of communism >Wanting a government that serves its citizens is an authoritarian mindset This is the most IDEOLOGY Caspian Report video yet.
@Kai555100
@Kai555100 5 лет назад
True I mean an ex nazi became Chancellor for example
@fionafiona1146
@fionafiona1146 5 лет назад
@@Kai555100 Do you know how difficult it was to find people never affiliated with the NSDAP (or their youth organisations)?
@Kai555100
@Kai555100 5 лет назад
@@fionafiona1146 everyone knew that he was one
@fionafiona1146
@fionafiona1146 5 лет назад
@@Kai555100 So were 2/3 of my Grate grandparents, keeping your children alive as a war widow required state sponsored programmes and rations.
@Kai555100
@Kai555100 5 лет назад
@@fionafiona1146 no this was after the era Adenauer
@kerryburns1293
@kerryburns1293 6 лет назад
I've watched quite a few of your videos and I found them to be objective, but not this one. The eastern german provinces rely on local gov't to push patriotic agenda inter alia, not the state. And they don't seem to be pushing communist agenda if one can judge on election results and growth of right wing parties throughout Germany, not just in east.. As far as use of nazis after WW2, Russia was not the only country and many western countries used them too. If eastern germans are opposing mass immigration I'm not sure it's because of some nostalgia for good old times under communist reign. I think you may be simplifying issue. If they are poorer and unemployment levels are higher, and people from anywhere in Europe can access the few jobs left jobs - not to mention the flood of refugees vying for same jobs - well it's quite understandable that they're becoming increasing anti-immigration and patriotic. One could also argue that west didn't enrich east but rather enriched themselves by using east.
@johnmaxwell1750
@johnmaxwell1750 6 лет назад
Kerry Burns, you have offered thoughtful comments. In a previous video about the refugee crisis, Shirwan expressed sentiments that Europe is capable of receiving non-European immigrants, and ought to do so. Apart from welfare and other costs of accommodating poor refugees, there is an issue of vying for jobs with the native population. Since most refugees taken in by Germany in the last twenty years have been Muslims, there are very serious issues relating to the cultural, religious, and political compatibility of these new people with the native population. Many rightfully worry that Muslim refugees are an incubus that will lead to conflict and violence with the native population
@kerryburns1293
@kerryburns1293 6 лет назад
John Maxwell. I agree. My husband was from muslim background and spent last few years of his life battling the Ennarda party in Tunisia. If anyone knows the threat islamists pose it's people like him. For me this has nothing to do with race. Older immigrants to France assimilated reasonably well. They were also often educated in French schools before arriving. The immigrants Germany are taking in are not the same and they pose a threat not only to native populations but also to peaceful non practising muslims in those countries.
@jascrandom9855
@jascrandom9855 6 лет назад
Its Ironic that the regions most fearful of immigration and with higher unemployment, are also the regions with least number of immigrants. Parties in the East aren't pushing communist agendas, but they are pushing Populist Agendas. They push for the Government, be it local or national, to use swift and forceful measures to solve the people's problems. This is a Characteristic of both Far-Left and Far-Right parties. The difference being the goals, the perceived issues and/or the methods. Immigrants Will integrate over time, even if they are uneducated and/or try not to. This is, although slow, an unstoppable process.
@bullphrogva1804
@bullphrogva1804 6 лет назад
Honestly, I think more and more of this channels videos have became subjective recently. Before it was strictly geopolitics and there's no real objective/subjective nature to that. Just what's best for a countries interest. This was a great niche, not many channels or even news covered geopolitics to the level of depth that he did. Now, geopolitics has taken a back seat, and I really am not interested in another political/history channel or it's blurring of geopolitical coverage. There are millions of those.
@ottersirotten4290
@ottersirotten4290 6 лет назад
Jasc Random Maybe there is Internet in Regions with low Immigration and they saw new years eve cologne style... I dont need to get raped to know that I would not like it
@KatGlos
@KatGlos 6 лет назад
As a German I'd like to clear up a misconception a lot of people seem to have: Germans are not self-hating and I have never met anyone who feels guilt for what happened during WWII, because it happened before we were born!
@fanyechao2761
@fanyechao2761 6 лет назад
what about refugees?
@KatGlos
@KatGlos 6 лет назад
Fan Yechao German people's opinions about refugees are very divided, unfortunately there is little rational thinking going on about this to be honest.
@amonbargo
@amonbargo 6 лет назад
there certainly are some who hate themselves and screem for "Bomber Harris" to do it again, but they are the minority in my opinion. Many germans just quietly go along with it, though.
@St99785
@St99785 6 лет назад
That doesn't jive with my own experiences. I've had Germans no older than 30 actually apologise to me as if I had been there. It's very disturbing and unnecessary, and you would be surprised to know that many outsiders understand that the nature of geopolitics causes bad situations to escalate beyond what was originally intended, and to expect anyone to blindly accept giving up concessions is unreasonable, hence, the root causes are complicated and cannot be overly simplified.
@thechadeuropeanfederalist893
@thechadeuropeanfederalist893 6 лет назад
Well, if you would have travelled through Europe in the 60's-70's as a German you would encounter a lot of anti-german ressentment. My father for example went to Ireland on vacation and was thrown out of a a restaurant merely because he was german The brits have always ressented the germans. The Poles still do and want WW2 reparations. Everyone hates Germany because of WW2 and because they are envious as fuck, since Germany is now the most economically most successful country in Europe and Merkel the most influential politician in the western world. They hate and fear Germany.
@Peter_Siri
@Peter_Siri 6 лет назад
"...lower standards of living do not necessarily encourage social unrest; discontent occurs when a long period of rising expectations is followed by a period during which gratifications suddenly decline while expectations continue to rise." This really had me thinking, Shirvan.
@mauriciomorais7818
@mauriciomorais7818 5 лет назад
0:42 "Churchill was dead-right." Ok I stopped listening here.
@Metal0217
@Metal0217 4 года назад
Same here.
@xoferwalken
@xoferwalken 4 года назад
Truth hurts huh?
@mauriciomorais7818
@mauriciomorais7818 4 года назад
@@xoferwalken Yes, truth hurt a lot when I found out the wrong side won the war. And it's going to hurt Brits a lot when they find out Churchill was massively indebted, and the Rothschilds made him an offer he couldn't refuse.
@xoferwalken
@xoferwalken 4 года назад
@Gypsyscotty9 yikes the larpers are mad again
@xoferwalken
@xoferwalken 4 года назад
Gypsyscotty9 Yes it is, you, you are a larper.
@kalamaroni
@kalamaroni 6 лет назад
While the divide between east and west is an interesting and significant political issue for Germany, I don't think it forms the central tenant of Germany's mindset. Rather, it is the idea that history must never repeat itself and the feeling of a special responsibility to history that manifests itself as a strong but practical devotion to liberal values that is the underlying drive for many of Germany's beliefs, including their response to the refugee crisis and their push for further strengthening of the EU.
@Pedro4490
@Pedro4490 6 лет назад
disagree. Germany is not strengthening the EU, it is using it for its own benefit. In fact it is going against whishes of Macron, and it just wants the status quo and abusing the EU for profit, that being the single market (opening the EU market to places that compete with other EU countries economies and opening German interest there with cheap labor), the single currency (from its beginning up to Mario draghi) and even the MIGRANT crisis, was just used as a way to boost cheap labor. We are you from kalamaron?
@kalamaroni
@kalamaroni 6 лет назад
I have several nationalities including German. I should mention that my post was partially inspired by how I myself think about my country's policies, as well as how other Germans I've spoken to think. I sometimes joke that one of the big reasons why Merkel is so popular, even with quite left-leaning people like my mother, is because she is so boring. And Germans love boring leaders, because boring leaders never try to conquer the World. As far as expanding the EU for selfish gain versus liberal values, if you believe the Germans it is the same thing. At least according to their rhetoric, individual security and prosperity can only be achieved in Europe through a unification of values and economies. We need to remember here that it is their *mindset* that we're discussing, not the realities of how they act. And in terms of how Germany justifies its policies, both to itself and others, it is always with a nod towards their own war-guilt. As far as cheap labor, I don't think it matters as much as you make it appear. For one, the fact that cheap labor in EU countries such as Greece, Spain and the newer eastern members isn't being employed enough by the Germans is one of the central complaints levelled against them. They also already have a fair bit of cheap labor due to the unification with East Germany and Turkish immigration. Plus, Germany has a system of industrial negotiations that keeps employment high and wages low. I was speaking to some friends who just graduated from University, and they mention that they could get starting wages literally three times higher in the US than they get in Germany. Instead of wages, people are compensated with good public transport, free healthcare and a high standard of living in Germany. In general and particularly when it comes to the EU, Germany cares a lot more about their current account and fiscal stability, both of which can be increased via increased reliance on EU institutions.
@Pedro4490
@Pedro4490 6 лет назад
I was just trying to see why you had such a positive view of Germany in the year 2018, when the view of Germany within Europe is not that positive. The migrants were used to boost the German GDP by 1% and help stabelize the population, which created havoc accross Europe/Mediterranean, especially Eastern Europe and Greece for very sound reasons. All this just after the Eurozone crisis also fuelled by Germany.
@kalamaroni
@kalamaroni 6 лет назад
www.thelocal.de/20170616/europeans-see-germany-favourably-but-think-it-has-too-much-power news.gallup.com/poll/225761/world-approval-leadership-drops-new-low.aspx
@AntonioBrandao
@AntonioBrandao 6 лет назад
kalamaron i that is mostly due to the effect of continued brainwashing
@FantadiRienzo
@FantadiRienzo 6 лет назад
Sounds like you've got your knowledge from wikipedia. Btw, there was nothing about a "mindset" in there. And what "bourgeoise revolution" did the UK go through?
@13Luk6iul
@13Luk6iul 6 лет назад
He was pretty clear on the mindset I think. With the bourgeosie revolution, I think in case of GB he was talking about parliament, whereas prussia was long an absolute monarchy. However we had a bourgeois revolution 1848 in Germany, since it failed, i guess it was left out due to time.
@FantadiRienzo
@FantadiRienzo 6 лет назад
The german empire had a parliament as well. Research "Reichstag". The german "Kaiserreich" was a federal state & a constitutional monarchy, with the first wellfare system. The british aristocracy is still the biggest landowner in britain, btw.
@jamesbryant8133
@jamesbryant8133 6 лет назад
Sickend Sour biggest land owner by proxy of the government. The monarchy can't do shit, not even *say* what they want to say. The government can take your land at anytime if they need to build a road through it or something else for the nation. You do get paid way over the odds but don't get a choice about selling it.
@ConfusedPorpoise
@ConfusedPorpoise 6 лет назад
Sickend Sour ever hear about chartists?
@FantadiRienzo
@FantadiRienzo 6 лет назад
No. But I looked it up. And why didn`t Germany have something similar? Where did the bismarckian welfare state come from? The german empire was a federal state and a constitutional monarchy. It was not an absolutist state. In the end, Shirvan should talk about Iran and his own region. Would he like a german to make videos about "the iranian mindset"? Would he like a german to say that "persia is a source of pestilence"? I guess not.
@SoFallsWichitaFalls
@SoFallsWichitaFalls 2 года назад
Thank you for such a great video. There is a lot of food for thought here. I also appreciate the comments and perspectives written below. Most of the comments are made with sincerity, which shows the quality of the viewers who come to this channel. I think I've come to the right spot.
@fridolinmaier8806
@fridolinmaier8806 6 лет назад
Nice video overall, despite some inaccuracies. Former SS-officers were also employed in West Germany, with the (simplified) reasoning that "the enemy's (communism) enemy is my friend".
@Longlius
@Longlius 6 лет назад
4:38 is great. It really gives you a sense of how pivotal Germany's geographic position is within Europe.
@eingew
@eingew 6 лет назад
Asking for control of immigration is begging for state control? And thats just one point where I was baffled. Did you even research what choices we have in migration control with our current partys? We can choose between "completely open borders" and "every foreigner gets the fuck out". How do you justify this harsh judgement on AfD-Voters given the alternatives? I am really disappointed by the quality of this video after seeing so much good stuff from you before :/. One more important point probably: You also did not mention, that the additional income tax with the purpose to be invested in east germany had to be paid by east germans included and that this money was not bound to a special purpose by law. So it was justified by the economical difference by east and west but the investments in east germany are actually lower than the money they supposedly collected for it. Its de facto simply an additional tax. Also some formulation like "the marshallplan allowed germany to thrive again"... if u ask me thats typical anglo-american overexaggeration of their influence but in no way the truth. The marshall-plan was helpful but not at all more than a helpful hand getting us on our feet again. It made the process faster, not a possibility. And u really make east germans sound like if they are some backwarded retards and as if they have no proper justification for their criticism on the behaviour of the state towards them.. that sucks mate. I am really disappointed. It would have been okay to just leave this one out if it is too much work. But this looks simply rushed and its missing out so many points of view. You also began on a far too late point in history to explain the todays society. Things like "commonweal" as the best goal for the state were discussed in the german lands of the 16th century and you make it sound like "western germany" just adopted it from the oh so literate "western civilizations". This is so half-baked. Okay, maybe I am too deep into the topic to ever be happy with a twelve minutes video about the "german mindset" but... this is just unacceptable for me. Well, lets just leave it on these points, before this becomes an essay.
@Matt_Fields_29
@Matt_Fields_29 6 лет назад
"We can choose between "completely open borders" and "every foreigner gets the fuck out". How do you justify this harsh judgement on AfD-Voters given the alternatives?" You're new to this voting in a republic thing, aint you? Imagine having to choose either Crooked Warmonger Hillary Clinton or Clueless Orange Buffoon Donald Trump as your country's chief executive.
@eingew
@eingew 6 лет назад
Last election was indeed my first :D.
@blackice214
@blackice214 6 лет назад
We got stuck with shit choices... just shows how far money has seeped in American Politics Trymp made the swamp even bigger not draining it and hillary is part of the dc elite... not sure how much longer the US can survive as a democratic state
@eingew
@eingew 6 лет назад
You really think democracy itself is under attack? I think that is the thing keeping us together here in germany, the fact that we all want to vote in a democracy, none of us really wants any other form of governance, or at least no significant group. Don't your people agree on that bit too?
@SaucyJack97
@SaucyJack97 6 лет назад
Democracy was a fucking mistake. Mob rule, yeah!
@JuanZavaleta
@JuanZavaleta 6 лет назад
Congratulations as usual... I am happy for you having sponsors to support your work, you deserve it...
@Grytolle
@Grytolle 6 лет назад
Nationalism isn't a radical idea...
@ThomasRenneis
@ThomasRenneis 6 лет назад
I agree...Azerbaijan is by far more nationalist then Germany...and I bet my ass they will never call themselfs radical...
@Melnek1
@Melnek1 6 лет назад
The idea of what would be radical is that it is difficult to define. Nationalism was born and developed in nineteenth-century Europe, to a certain extent, nationalism developed as a reaction to the period of restoration of the old regime after the Napoleonic wars. Nationalism preaches the idea that it is the people of that nation that should govern its own destiny and not the monarchs and aristocrats, in that sense nationalism has a radical origin, and if you look at its most visible products, Pangermanism and local nationalism within the former Russian and Austrian empire, will find that the end result of their agendas, Nazism and the implosion of the Russian and Austrian empires are not at all conservative.
@marco26gdm
@marco26gdm 6 лет назад
It depends on wether nationalism is based on ethnicity or on civic values, civic nationalism is definitely not radical while ethnic nationalism is tending towards racial ideology and definitely radical.
@0MVR_0
@0MVR_0 6 лет назад
Radical seems to be to be defined as 'most disagreeable to the human condition'.
@Melnek1
@Melnek1 6 лет назад
Civic nationalism, whose classic expression is French and American nationalism is definitely radical. Both arose from revolutionary processes, the French Revolution and the American Revolution, nationalism starts from the assumption that there is a group, a nation, is that there is a common local identity that legitimizes a common agenda, through the nation-state, is the collective to the detriment of the individual. It is for this reason that the actuality where consumerist individualism is hegemonic, that collectivist agendas such as that of the nation-state can be seen as radical.
@brianjonker510
@brianjonker510 3 года назад
I have watched many episodes from the Caspian report. The breadth of your topics is stunning and seems to come with a real understanding of the local issues
@FirstOnRaceDayCapri2904
@FirstOnRaceDayCapri2904 6 лет назад
It's a shame that because of WW2, Germans have lost any national pride, for fear of being called Nazis. Germans should be proud of their history and culture.
@KatGlos
@KatGlos 6 лет назад
I think it's sad how Prussian history is demonized and forgotten. It was actually a very progressive state, especially in education and social security.
@amonbargo
@amonbargo 6 лет назад
As a German of prussian descent i can tell you that not all have been indoctrinated to hate themselves and their culture. Sadly most of the people in the media and politics are part of the group you are discribing, so its easy to get the impression its everybody.
@0MVR_0
@0MVR_0 6 лет назад
Why should Germans be either proud or ashamed? It is possible to actually learn from history and not apply emotional attachment to events that occurred outside of your control.
@St99785
@St99785 6 лет назад
Germans have much to be proud of. Your failure to grasp this is probably due to your own weak sense of identity. It's certainly not a sentiment widely shared, as it's counterproductive towards the biological tendency for human groups to organise and seek cohesive unions and traditions with like minded persons.
@KubusSc7
@KubusSc7 6 лет назад
Thank you.
@trafo60
@trafo60 6 лет назад
As a German, I can see some inaccuracies in this video. However, your general point is valid, and this video is very well done.
@Porkeater2610957
@Porkeater2610957 6 лет назад
Interesting how you avoided the term "Client State" for Western Germany, while using the term overwhelmingly for East Germany, although both had/have limited sovereignity.
@roydominguez-bo4cj
@roydominguez-bo4cj 7 месяцев назад
Bounced back from 2 world war loses the country still had the determination and will to rebuild their nation and it’s looking beautiful wow That’s something
@leonardomgon
@leonardomgon 6 лет назад
I would avoid political comments and connotations in a serious geo political analysis
@jerrydeem8946
@jerrydeem8946 3 года назад
I've been bingeing Caspianreport for like 10 hrs now. These are factual in the historical sense, currently prophetic in alot of instances.
@rodi8266
@rodi8266 6 лет назад
So in your opening summary you argue that germany was at the center of aggression? Do you believe that germany was the cause for WW1? If you are then I ask you to reconsider. WW2 is obviously not to be argued over.
@johnmaxwell1750
@johnmaxwell1750 6 лет назад
Rodi, Deutschland really was an aggressor in WWI. Examples of this aggression are the sabotage explosions set off by German agents in NY harbor and the Zimmerman telegram (which helped to motivate a neutral USA to join the Western allies as a combatant). There are many other examples of German aggression prior to and during WWI.
@pedrosalvador1146
@pedrosalvador1146 6 лет назад
John Maxwell Because the Franco-Russian alliance didn't want anything with Germany... Even Hobsbawn admits that the aim of Britain, France, Russia, the great powers of Europe, was to destroy Germany.
@johnmaxwell1750
@johnmaxwell1750 6 лет назад
If Germany was so innocent, why did their agents undertake numerous secret acts of sabotage in the US, a neutral nation? In the attacks a number of US citizens were killed. These were acts of war. Prussians behind the German military had aggressive, expansionistic impulses. Sow the wind, and you may receive the whirlwind. Germany did receive the whirlwind twice in the 20th Century.
@hatonhatsoff
@hatonhatsoff 5 лет назад
Rodi yeah right its not like they were the ones who began marching into france from belgium
@ragingsage3973
@ragingsage3973 4 года назад
@@johnmaxwell1750 Britain was hiding weapons in American Ships and Wilson knew it. So much for being 'neutral'
@AMAbeja
@AMAbeja 5 лет назад
Germany tried to do the philanthropist's work, and it has backfired big time. Nationalism isn't radical.
@b.cdrisk2035
@b.cdrisk2035 6 лет назад
Multiculturalism is a radical idea, rejection of it (nationalism) isn't
@Betterhose
@Betterhose 3 года назад
How would you describe yourself? Germany: "Have you ever played Whack a Mole?"
@BrianLottermann
@BrianLottermann 6 лет назад
As a German with international background, I find myself really enjoying your videos. Its rare to find an unbiased, historical look at geopolitics of the world we live in. Keep it up Shirvan!
@mgtowp.l.7756
@mgtowp.l.7756 5 лет назад
A Excellent Video.. Highly Recommended... Thank You Very Much For Sharing..
@autarchprinceps
@autarchprinceps 3 года назад
I don't know for certain, I'm not an eastern German, but my impression was, that one of their major complaints post reunification was a feeling of being patronized by a western German dominated central political structure, not at all a desire for more centralization and power in the political system. I also think it is foolish to think, that because an area was communist, it must now value at least slightly more communist ideals. Often enough the opposite is the case, with communism identified as the problem, all of its perceived aspects are rejected once the areas, countries, etc. free themselves from it.
@kamimoros
@kamimoros 3 года назад
There are incorrect statements here: While East-Germany was under the influence of the soviet union, the soviets also took care of any SS and Nazi residuals, with sometimes drastic measures. The soviets lost the most people in this war and Nazi-Germany tried to eradicate bolschewik Russians from Earth, so the resentments and animosities were actually quite big (around 30% of PoW died in soviet camps while only 5% in US camps) It was actually the opposite, that in West-Germany Nazi-bureaucrats stayed in power and were exonerated („Persilscheine“) and only with the growing unrest of the next generation in in the 60s the former Nazis were prosecuted or publicly denounced (e.g. Kurt Kiesinger). Also the miraculous economic growth in Western Germany was mirrored in the East and Eastern Germany was known as an economic powerhouse in the soviet countries. The downfall of the economy came in the 1990s when the complete dismantling of the entire industry and economic structure left millions of people jobless and sparked a mass movement of skilled labour from the East to the West (similar things happened in most former soviet states and a lot of people resent the fact that they feel like their land and industry was bought off by international corporations, while they themselves had no monetary means to buy it themselves, since in their socialist economy money was not a driver of decisions and wealth could not be accumulated).
@Exodon2020
@Exodon2020 3 года назад
Don't be mistaken here: Just like the Americans the Soviets also kept those former Nazis they could use for themselves. Others later came to work for the East German government. The MfS was built up by former GeStaPo-men. Also East Germany managed to keep pace with the West until the 1960s, afterwards the East German economy began to stagnate and fall back behind the West. When Gorbatchev finally cut funding for the Soviet Puppet States of the Warsaw Pact East Germany underwent desperate measures to get the missing funds by other means and even out-Capitalismed the West in some regards. Like how they literally sold their imprisoned citizens to the West as "political Prisoners," how they tested medications from ruthless corporations on human subjects when laws in the West still prohibited them from it and how they sold blood plasma in large quantities and skipped the Aids-Tests as contrary to the truth the East German government still claimed Aids to be a "Western" disease.
@kamimoros
@kamimoros 3 года назад
@@Exodon2020 interesting points there. I would like to read on that, what sources did you use?
@ethereal2620
@ethereal2620 5 лет назад
This channel is absolutely amazing! I thought i knew something about geopolitics. Boy, i was wrong.
@DSiren
@DSiren 5 лет назад
Please note that liberalism is not synonymous with equality. Liberalism is the broad term for reformist. If your society is already very equal and fair, liberalism does a 180 and becomes the reformists calling for less equality. Conservatism is the broad term for people that think what they already have is either good enough or as good as is reasonable. This means it was once the conservative standpoint to be pro monarchy, and 2 generations later it was pro- democracy, and 2 generations later it was pro republic, and then it was pro monarchy again (all in France). This is also different from country to country. For example American conservatives are more center leaning than Arabic conservatives who would be off the right end, or chinese conservatives who would be quite left. Politics is weird in multipartisan governments because as a state of affairs becomes more normalised, it becomes less of a liberal idea and more of a conservative one, until the only people against that idea are a new group of liberals (or anarchists who hate all government equally). This means no party can just call themselves "the liberal party" or "the conservative party" because every few generations it does a flip. The democrats were the conservatives in the American civil war for example, and now the republicans are the more conservative party. When you hear conservative don't assume "republican" because many of us only vote republican because we disagree with democrats more, and "constitutionalist" would be a more accurate term (see CPGray's video on gerrymandering on why it's dumb for us to try to form and vote for our own party).
@Erik-rp1hi
@Erik-rp1hi 3 года назад
"Russia wanted S.S. officer in the government", Putin is so wanting of this kind of policy. Kill the Nor-Stream gas line.
@woulverine__0118
@woulverine__0118 3 года назад
Fun fact: in West Germany there where more former nsadap members in the foreign ministry than under Hilter
@DaDunge
@DaDunge 6 лет назад
20:00 That wasn't planned it just happened when talks between the Soviets and allies broke down.
@MrRunRun89
@MrRunRun89 6 лет назад
I was born in the GDR and your research is really well made. There is also a problem between German West and East population, where the western think about the eastern as second class people. Over the decades I gets lesser and lesser but it still remains in the heads. Also by the younger generations.
@Admiral_Jezza
@Admiral_Jezza 6 лет назад
>Nationalism >Radical Well this channel used to be pretty unbiased, I guess that sadly changed.
@Tosse901
@Tosse901 5 лет назад
And in the west former nazi leaders remained in their positions more often than in the east. Like almost every judge was also a judge as the Nazis ruled over germany and in politics were many former SS and NSDAP members, like Hans Globke, Karl Carstens, Hans Filbinger or Kurt Georg Kiesinger and the list goes on and on. So there was no real historical reappraisal of the Nazi reign in the west before the 1968 generation started it.
@donaldduck8499
@donaldduck8499 5 лет назад
The germans lost the last war, the Nazis went to the USA...….Look at Nasa built with Nazi brains!
@susangoaway
@susangoaway 6 лет назад
>AfD >far-right >Nationalism >Radical Wew I guess I'm RADICAL
@RavemastaJ
@RavemastaJ 6 лет назад
It is pretty bonkers that believing that your nation should be sovereign over its own affairs is somehow a radical idea, and that the people within your borders should be looked after first is ALSO a radical idea. Maybe people around the world should just elect Chinese dictators in China to rule their countries? Isn't that how Globalism would be practiced if implemented, anyway? Other people outside your country voting on how YOU should live? Clearly, that idea is no longer radical. We are all human 'beans' after all...
@---uf2zl
@---uf2zl 6 лет назад
If you vote for radical parties, you may indeed be a radical. It depends wether you really believe in their ideology or they just fooled you (which is likely, considering that it's what populist politicians are good at).
@susangoaway
@susangoaway 6 лет назад
Damn me voting absolutely RADICAL parties like nationalconservatives
@RavemastaJ
@RavemastaJ 6 лет назад
Bengali What is radical though? Describe the radicalism to me, and then describe what you stand for. Then we can nitpick all day about how crazy 'both sides' are rather than fix issues that are occurring. Immigration is an issue because there is a declining birth rate. If you invested in your own people to have children, you wouldn't need to import labor. Is this a true statement, a false statement, or unworkable (and please explain why for your choice)? You could also say that immigration is caused by U.S. allied nations bombing those countries. Okay, so allied countries should stop bombing those other countries. That doesn't mean that they need to leave their countries - the foreign aid to rebuild their homes should go over there...to their homes. To suggest otherwise makes very little economic or humanitarian sense...unless you are a person that believes a global network of major cities surrounded by empty landscape is the way of the future? A world where people migrate to the mega-cities because 'that's where the work is,' and everywhere else is just...empty? I would like to know if you also support globalism in addition to your answer to the original question about immigration.
@bruh5361
@bruh5361 6 лет назад
"I voted for the NSDAP, so I must be a Nazi"
@teaminkompetenzchris5883
@teaminkompetenzchris5883 6 лет назад
Very well done ... really captures the german spirit and the problems we face. Greetings from west germany
@John_Smith__
@John_Smith__ 6 лет назад
Major mistake on the video: FYI AfD is not Far-right. They are as all parties in Germany should be a Nationalist party, something Germany needs desperately over this last 80 decades, hence their success in voting.
@venmis137
@venmis137 3 года назад
For Europe, the problem also involves integrating the eastern countries. Western Europe doesn't always get on with itself, but it would probably be more than capable of maintaining a political union. The main destabilising parts of the EU are: 1. Weakness of european institutions compared to national ones, 2. It derives its authority from member states rather than its citizenry, 3. Trying to reconcile the western bloc with the eastern bloc is a fucking nightmare. Not that it shouldn't be done, but it is a significant challenge that must be overcome.
@kevinr2072
@kevinr2072 5 лет назад
I like how you start this video right with WW2. Keeping in Mind that Germany has a rich history to the 1st venture.This is Germany’s problem that everything they do goes right back to it and they can’t move forward. Now they have suicided their identity and lost their culture. What does it mean to be a German? It means to please anyone and anything in order to be avoided being Labeled a nazi
@LinusFeynstein
@LinusFeynstein Год назад
Funny aspect by a non-football fan: Prussia slowly took over, even though the founding core of Prussia Königsberg located in what is now Russia Kaliningrad. The aristocrats of Brandenburg in Berlin adopted the name Prussia to become Kings. Many football (soccer) clubs in the very west of Germany were founded during the time of Prussian-Berlin cultural and military hegemony and dominance. So you find clubs with the name of Preußen or "Borussia", latin for Prussia.
@jonathanhirschbaum6754
@jonathanhirschbaum6754 6 лет назад
WHile historical and economic backgroud is very accurate - the understanding of the current political situation and sentiments is 3/10 :)
@DonDadda45
@DonDadda45 4 года назад
1/10*
@Josh-bf6sk
@Josh-bf6sk 6 лет назад
As a german I can explain our mindset best:"work work work invent invent invent work work work"
@744748
@744748 6 лет назад
As a foreigner living in Germany now for roughly 20 years, I don't really agree with this analysis. IMO, Germans (both East and West) are great believers in social and economic engineering and as a nation they have a very collective mindset. They are not great libertarian thinkers nor are they able to deal with critics or a lively debate, but instead the Germans ("orders are orders") quickly and collectively align themselves with whichever person is in power. This has not only resulted in the horrors of the First World War and the Holocaust, but also in a repressive Communist system as in the DDR. As history repeats itself, these social and economic engineering obsessions again shifting Germany towards a more totalitarian society where criticism of the multicultural society, the European Union and the Euro (i.e. social and economic engineering) are quickly condemned as "right wing fascism." Germany is rapidly falling back to it's totalitarian, collective and repressive socio-economic engineering roots. Is it therefore a coincidence that both "Das Kapital" and "Mein Kampf" have originated in Germany?
@butzemann69
@butzemann69 6 лет назад
Wrong.
@mor0358
@mor0358 6 лет назад
Das hört sich an als wärst du nie in Deutschland gewesen, behalt deine erfundenen Propagandatexte für dich. Nationalsozialistische Tendenzen lassen sich in allen Ländern der Welt finden, lustigerweise vermehrt in Nationen wie den USA, China (Ultranationalistisch), Russland, Osteuropa (Polen, Bulgarien), Frankreich (Front Nationale), UK (UKIP), ...
@wheyprotein162
@wheyprotein162 6 лет назад
I do agree
@cierrawegner5226
@cierrawegner5226 6 лет назад
Marc H ^leugnung.
@kryldash
@kryldash 6 лет назад
Very good comment. This "bandwagoning effect" is not just limited to totalitarian politics though but its present in any type of community form in Germany. German people are the most collective in western Europe. Most Germans will deny this though. Germans are not "free thinkers". Thus in Germany, whenever people hop on another wagon, the political pendulum swings much more extreme from liberal to oppressive, back and forth, as seen over the centuries.
@mahmodeissa9172
@mahmodeissa9172 6 лет назад
Amazing as usual Shirvan . I think that since MLK and HRE the autonomy of Germans regions through out history was and still an advantage as it allows the country to develop and flourish to reach a top level put most important that it prevents it from falling apart into despair even in the hardest lowest times .
@djprojectus
@djprojectus 6 лет назад
"Apparently the CaspianReport is the source of recurring politically correct pestilence lately and must be destroyed!" Signed: Winston Churchill ! And i must say Churchill is dead right in this!☺
@helix4811
@helix4811 6 лет назад
Why are you even here?
@djprojectus
@djprojectus 6 лет назад
Helix I am a subscriber but i consider that he has derailed in a pc bulshit like so many others! My comment represent my dissapointment for this channel!
@helix4811
@helix4811 6 лет назад
So basically, you're angry because you don't like the facts that he's presented. Facts don't care about your feelings, nor is he presenting any sort of PC views. If you don't have a proper criticism, I suggest you stop talking.
@djprojectus
@djprojectus 6 лет назад
Helix Actually you are the one to stop talking,his video is full of pc statements and very bad research on the subject which will be excusable up to a point if he didn't derailed in a bulshit pc narative! He didnt present facts,more like repeating what he read in Wikipedia,not the most trusted source!
@CaspianReport
@CaspianReport 6 лет назад
I would be devastated if you unsubscribed.
@thomasschmidt5219
@thomasschmidt5219 4 года назад
Two things: 1. West Germany integrated a lot of the old Nazia too. The denazification is a highly discussed subject among historians and its efficiency in West Germany is largely doupted. The Western government needed the knowledge, talents and networks of the old regime to built up their own structures. Konrad Adenauer one phrased it like this: You don't throw away dirty water as long as you don't know where you get clean water from. (e.g. Heinz Globke, co-author and commentator of the Nürnberg race laws, later close advisor of Adenauer; Franz-Josef Strauß, member of the NSDAP and later ministerpresident of Bavaria and federal minister for the defence; Kurt Georg Kiesinger, members of the NSDAP and later chancelor; Reinhard Gehlen,Wehrmacht officer and later founder of the German secret service BND) The same holds true for leading economic positions. This led to a huge discussion in the late 1960s, when young ppl wanted to know what their parents did in the Nazi regime. Only after that the society started to reflect on theses continuities and distanced itself from them. Both regimes integrated Nazis, the Socialists just did it more secretly. 2. It's worth mentioning that the privatization of the state owned East German economy after 1990 was managed by the government (Treuhandgesellschaft). This process has not been reflected on properly in society, because we only now start to gain access to the respective archives. There are a lot of suspections and myths about how poorly this process was managed and how the government and the Western investors failed to (and even not intended to) restore the East German economy. This led to a lot of distrust into the political and economic system which is further enhanced by the dominance of Western politicians, entrepreneurs and scholars in the East German society. A lot of ppl gain the impression that the reunification was actually a "taking over" from the West, which triggers a desire for an indipendent East-German point of view or identity, which manifests itself in the successes of Die Linke and AfD.
@stideliaprim1164
@stideliaprim1164 6 лет назад
Its great but i cant understand enough, my ears struggling. Please add subtitles, thank you
@Carlosthetraveler360
@Carlosthetraveler360 5 лет назад
I'm an American born and raised. My father was a West German. I have seen that many Germans especially in the north still consider themselves as Prussian. East Germans are definitely more against foreigners moving in. They are very much like Eastern Europeans and Russians. Germany is like the past Kingdoms of old. They are very proud of what they were before the wars and would very much want it back. Russia, Poland and Checolosvakia have land that belongs to the original German country. I can tell you that many Germans want that land back and they want the US bases out. East German thinking has definitely contributed to helping balance the right and left political views. Germany does need more right politics currently. The left have went crazy. They are rushing things that should take time. Very I interesting honestly. It's a lot more complicated than this video of course. You can't sum up Germany that easily. They are proud though and if they get their shit together they can easily have the most powerful military again. They very innovative and efficient. Compared to most country systems. But if you ask a German how is government is and they will complain like hell about how inefficient they are. This is what helps keep themselves in check and makes them fix problems fast.
@wilhelmvonlaer5699
@wilhelmvonlaer5699 6 лет назад
Prussia wasn't abolished, it was killed, raped and devasteted in a giant genocide. Of course it was the core of germany and german mindset up until 1918, and of course the transition of power from nobles to the "Bürgertum" as we call it in german to avoid a marxist term took place later than in most western european countries. But 1.) is that really a bad thing? The french revolution devastated France for the entire 19th century with political turmoils, chaos, injustice and purges taking place every 2nd decade or so and it wasn't until 1871 either that they finally abolished a strange monarchy. 2.) to connect noble prussian conservatism with Nazism is straight riddiculous. Around 50% of the Stauffenberg conspirators that were executed by the Nazi government were noble in name. Prussian noble conservatism was in fact the only opposition that ever stood a chance against the Nazis after 1933. Hindenburg himself made jokes about crushing Hitler politically after he gave him chancellorship, he was just underestimating him. National socialism was by contrast something that united working class and "Bürgertum", they were called "primitive upstarts" by most of nobility. To quote Churchill on german matters is, by the way, an insult. That man didn't want to transform germany into a liberal, flourishing democracy, he intended to turn germany into an agricultural wasteland. He didn't want to destroy the roots of tyranny in germany, he wanted to break german self-confidence forever by bombing non-military targets into submission. He didn't hate Nazis, he hated germans, and if it wasn't for the americans, germany might still be that agricultural wasteland that it was right after the war.
@godsowncountry3605
@godsowncountry3605 6 лет назад
... it was killed, raped and devasteted. Fortunately. Says a Hanovarian.
@wilhelmvonlaer5699
@wilhelmvonlaer5699 6 лет назад
I like dark humour but this is a bit over the top mate.
@Wanderpwnder
@Wanderpwnder 6 лет назад
This is, hands down, the best channel on RU-vid imo.
@JohnDoe-rw4hl
@JohnDoe-rw4hl 6 лет назад
"Please consider funding the CIA on Patreon."
@reginleifr7300
@reginleifr7300 6 лет назад
There was a revolution in 1848. It failed ultimately but the first parliament made a constitution which, even though never used, lived on in the weimar constitution (aka first democracy here)
@SlardarDota
@SlardarDota 6 лет назад
i think its still important to note, that the "far right afd" is probably more left than obama.
@swanky_yuropean7514
@swanky_yuropean7514 6 лет назад
To be fair. On a global perspective. A left leaning political party doesn't exist in the US. You have 2 parties that are both pro corporation. One is pro big oil and military and the other one is pro wallstreet and silicon valley. The needs of the average worker and the poor is for both parties just secondary concern to get reelected. But those that pay the bills set the policies, and that's not the little guy.
@mayeastrise
@mayeastrise 6 лет назад
I think it would be more correct to say that many of their points are shared with centrist republicans.
@0MVR_0
@0MVR_0 6 лет назад
AfD don't even accept climate change as a significant threat. I don't think we should be comparing them to Obama.
@eingew
@eingew 6 лет назад
@Omar Omokhodion Like if any party is any more competent on that issue. Even the greens suck at it. I do not see your point, climate change HAS no relevance in todays politics other than the ability of the electricity producing companies to influence employment rates.
@0MVR_0
@0MVR_0 6 лет назад
Competence can be forgiven in politics. One should at least speak in known truths. I don't see how 'electricity producing companies' and their 'influence on employment rates' has anything to do with climate change, which has great relevance in modern politics.
@red9man2130
@red9man2130 6 лет назад
this is the best video I have seen on this subject yet! I,m very impressed by the video,s grasp of how the "allies" remade both german " Nations" after the war particularly EAST Germany and the Soviets keeping former Nazis in power! Amost NO ONE addresses this!
@cedricreiser2105
@cedricreiser2105 5 лет назад
Well Nazis in power after WW2 wasnt just a thing in the east, there were also Nazis in the Western Government and many Nazis that didnt face trials. So yeah that's just one thing he didn't get right in his video about germany...
@tylernorgart3647
@tylernorgart3647 6 лет назад
It says it just came out 45 seconds ago.. strange
@Lyon194
@Lyon194 6 лет назад
God I love these videos. You are the only content creator that actually describes and reveals the factual truths about the current state of our world without any shred of bias or underlying agenda. Keep up the great work!
@jinnindo
@jinnindo Год назад
Are you being sarcastic?
@nowisthetimetochange
@nowisthetimetochange 6 лет назад
Do a video on Taiwan
@isunlloaoll
@isunlloaoll 6 лет назад
Taiwan is trying to survive as long as possible. Maintain the current status quo as long as possible, and maybe survive until China recognizes its independence. That's the Taiwanese mindset right now.
@TalesOfGod
@TalesOfGod 6 лет назад
Alex Mercer I The "mainland" wants to commit genocide on Taiwan from Xi own words to invade and bombard the island. It's clear that Taiwanese hate the CCP and don't consider themselves as part of the CCP regardless of what their propaganda says.
@TalesOfGod
@TalesOfGod 6 лет назад
nowisthetimetochange I agree, Taiwan should get a video including the 2021 plans that Xi has to murder many innocent people (daily practice for the people's liberation army that murder their own people).
@shockwave2291
@shockwave2291 5 лет назад
@@isunlloaoll The Taiwanese mindset depends on which party-faction they support. The KMT side wants to survive so they can one day reunify with the Mainland once the People's Republic collapses. The DPP side wants to survive so they can achieve true independence one day. What every Taiwanese opposes however, is being ruled by the Communists.
@lukasj19999
@lukasj19999 4 года назад
As a german grewing up in eastern germany, now living in Berlin, which is more like a western oasis, I can totally confirm your analysis. Just some corrections: the far left party "Die Linke" (who is by the way the official continuation of the ex-government party of east germany with the same staff and finances including Stasi officials, but of course changed over the years with fresh faces) is strongly pro-immigration; the right-wing party the "AfD" is as well divided between east and west. The AfD in the west is more like the conservative mainstream in many nations, but in the east go as far as embracing national-socialism, so is fundamental different in it´s views on society and economics and internal heavily opposed and divided. Especially eastern germany suffers greatly from the Braindrain to western germany, partly as well due to the more radical political situation and less economic opportunity. Keep up your good work!
@stvia
@stvia 6 лет назад
Die Linke isn't far-left or populist. It's just simply left. The reason it's popular in the east is that it's an eastern party.
@MultiSciGeek
@MultiSciGeek 6 лет назад
I was not expecting such an interesting analysis. I would appreciate a part 2 which goes in depth please? Thanks a lot Sirvan!
@ontasbulent5709
@ontasbulent5709 4 года назад
Prussia wasn’t viped out because it was „evil“. US, Ussr and UK feared Prussia. Prussia produced military geniuses, the greatest minds of the 20th century and made Germany the country that united the culture of west and east. Sure they made bad stuff too but they weren’t evil. They were a threat to the west.
@rafarewaj5572
@rafarewaj5572 6 лет назад
Another great video, as your prognosis for Europe includes creation of separate blocks and one of them includes Poland i'd like to ask you to expand on your views on this matter perhaps with cooperation with Romanians as well other dynamics between nations of Three Seas Initiative and possible relations between blocks after they amerge plus strategy of Hungary and Serbia with their alliances.
@OljeiKhan
@OljeiKhan 6 лет назад
10:00 Nationalism , a radical ideal? Really? Nationalism is a radical idea how?
@0MVR_0
@0MVR_0 6 лет назад
Because not everyone in the world submits to the vanity of your nation.
@OljeiKhan
@OljeiKhan 6 лет назад
I'm a nationalist and i ask nobody in the world to submit to me. European white supremacist racism is not the same thing as nationalism. Nationalism is when a Pakistani wants to see a stronger Pakistan , a better standard of life for the commoner... I was born and raised in Turkey with Turkish culture , i'm proud of it and i want to see my country and my people in better places. This goal does not require any submission from anyone.
@0MVR_0
@0MVR_0 6 лет назад
To want a better life specifically for people who happen to be born within your country's national boundary implies you are willing to either overlook foreigners or even gain at their expense. Wanting success for humanity is not the aim of nationalists who yes are radically opposed to the notion.
@OljeiKhan
@OljeiKhan 6 лет назад
Omar Omokhodion terribly wrong. I dont need to want the worst for a Russian to make Turkey or the Turks gain something. But i do care for the people that i share a culture with. Everyone does. Every different culture is a gem , and to feel part of the greater whole , humanity is a great thing. But cherishing all the different cultures and ways of life that we came up with is important for me. You are extremely biased and you probably believe that you are talking to some Nazi. Well spoiler alert , every nationalist is not an extremely racist maniac who wants to invade countries.
@0MVR_0
@0MVR_0 6 лет назад
You are literally the one who brought up Nazism. Just want to make that clear, that you are spending energy distancing yourself from Nazi ideology without provocation. I ask, should Kurdish nationalists have the same ambitions as yourself?
6 лет назад
Have to correct here: both West and East Germany prosecuted Nazi criminals and turned a blind eye and employed former nazis both enforced or supported by their occupying powers. It was the conflict of wanting to do justice and clean up the ground for a new, democratic or anti-fascist state and rebuilding admistration as well as economical and military power to help against the new enemy as an ally.
@Martin_e_93
@Martin_e_93 3 года назад
Apparently, according to this video, rejecting liberal values ​​makes you an "extremist" or "radical" A somewhat subjective and ridiculous vision.
@tayfunmarcelgrunwaldt3649
@tayfunmarcelgrunwaldt3649 6 лет назад
There is much more to the German mindset: 1. The two kingdoms doctrine, a state-minded and collectivistic world view, which lies on top of even older pagan ideas of the all-pervading duty. Both have shaped the mindset of Germanic-speaking Europe and the Anglosphere in general and Germany in particular. All these countries are much more concerned with upholding social order than Romanic-/Slavic-speaking Europe. (Sidenote: Regulations regarding the lawful addressing of certain genders and debates about transgender bathrooms just scream "social order" and shows a very conservative world view, not a "liberal".) 2. The 30 years war 1618-1648, which devastated central Europe and proved the geopolitical challenges of a relative weak mid. This war later taught German officers to always plan for offensive, to "take the war to the enemy territory". Needless to say, the centre (Germany) was too weak to overcome its geopolitical weaknesses and the logic consequences are either having a weak mid again or a strong mid to the advantage of its neighbours. This shows the overall positive attitude towards the EU. 3. Till the world wars many conservative German thinkers (even Thomas Mann) argued to belong to a separate civilisation jammed between the decadent and unauthentic West (i.e. UK and France) and the backwardly Slavs. Germans are a "people without space" as was the titel of a popular book (1926). Again the EU is a sort of solution. As half-German myself I see many Germans having an amusingly wrong image of themselves. Individualistic and liberal is the peoples choice, but the emphasis on rule of law and social order stem from a conservative and collectivistic way of seeing the world. They confuse liberal individualism with progressiv conformity, parallels can be made to Canada and Scandinavia.
@kaylew108
@kaylew108 6 лет назад
Long live Prussia, long live the Kaiser
@user-ky6vw5up9m
@user-ky6vw5up9m 5 лет назад
Sorry to tell you but he is dead.
@flachzange1614
@flachzange1614 4 года назад
West Germany had also a lot of ex Nazis in governmental and bureaucratic positions. Only after the 68 revolution it began to change. For example my mother had an Ex Nazi as teacher.
@theronster6939
@theronster6939 4 года назад
2/3 of teachers were in the Nazi Party, it was impossible to get rid of them all
@perverse_ince
@perverse_ince 6 лет назад
10:32 "AfD (far-right)" I wish
@jkb2016
@jkb2016 5 лет назад
Yepp. Living in and watching Germany since 1988, I've come to the same conclusions. The problem is that the governments after unification underestimated or even neglected the workforce migration from east to west and how important transitioning-assistance during first years was. Imo this was the essential failure.
@justusstern9125
@justusstern9125 4 года назад
Nope. So damn NOT true ! Greetings from good old Germany !
@ahrimusifosil9207
@ahrimusifosil9207 4 года назад
One of the best foreign videos about my country i ever seen. Most ppl dont understand how complex germany is.
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