I like how you can’t see Flowey’s sprite when he says, “You can’t even take care of yourself.” He’s not making fun of her, he’s concerned about her. He does care about her, even if it’s just a little.
Head canons I have because of the alarm clock dialogue. Toriel knew Flowey was Asriel. Toriel became an alcoholic because of Asriel and Chara’s death. She only sobers up when she takes care of a child, with an occasional relapse. Papyrus thew a Christmas party in September and no one had the heart to correct them. Mettaton has his own channel that only plays holiday specials about him, all part of the MTTCU. Sans and Alphys are meme lords.
Interesting theories, I definitely agree with a lot of them! I'd say Toriel probably subsconsciously knew Flowey was Asriel because in a previous save he did try to get help from his parents when he first woke up as Flowey. All characters seem to have vague dream-like memories of past saves (Toriel remembers your preferred flavor, for example) so it stands to reason that deep down she remembers Flowey's identity. As far as alcoholism goes, I'm not sure on that but I do know Rudy in Deltarune said she would always get crazy at parties, so it's interesting that detail carries over to both Toriels. Either way alcohol has a significant effect on her, she might actually have a low tolerance level. I agree with everything else 100%, especially that sans and Alphys are total meme lords.
I just realized, they were having winter activities in September. Makes you wonder where exactly do these guys live now where it gets that cold that early? My guess is either Mount Ebbot is located pretty far north or they periodically go back to Snowdin.
I was wondering about that myself! It might be subconscious. Afterall, in another timeline Flowey told Toriel who he was. Plus when Frisk resets the timeline Toriel remembers their preferences, so maybe not all memory is erased.
I get the feeling he's not *really* with everyone else, he seems to interact only with Papyrus and secretly visits Toriel when she's not aware (Oh and Frisk too, assuming that's who Flowey is talking to)
I've always got the impression Flowey can feel a little more than he lets on. The very first time he woke up as a flower he was scared, and then he was scared again of the player at the end of the geno route.
@molly Hes literally confirmed to be soulless in the game. I don't really know about the feeling aspect, but scientifically, what alphys did to him in the human lab, he is surviving off of the determination that she injected into him. Flowey doesn't have a soul.
