@@PhilAndMindPretty sure there is a secret dialog in the Apt. Complex if you interacted the save while doing a no save run, Flowey will talk about how you not saved at all. I read that from the wiki, I'm not bothered to do a No Save run just to find out if there's a secret dialog if you do that.
The in-game Clover we play as is one from a timeline in which Flowey has already resetted so many times just to see if he does something different other than constantly dying by going on the main path (that normally Frisk takes)
@@NackPockif its genocide route? Yea he could, even flowey says he could've done it, but in pacifist and neutral? Nope, he's too weak, he would really need to rely on flowey for that
2:18:58 “hey genius, I never died at all, so I didn’t need your help now with flowey’s empty threats out of the way it’s time to complete my mission and set the souls free”
@@Duck-3 Actually, Genocide would be the pissing off Flowey run as UTY Pacifist is implied to be the ending that most closely ties to original Undertale and thus lets him do Omega Flowey/That Thing in Pacifist (idk why I'm not spoiling it) but yeah
I really REALLY wanted the ending to be Asgore showing why he is THE strongest monster in the underground, but the subversion of my expectations definitely made this so much more memorable.
I mean to be fair it's obvious who would win, a genocidal maniac with a gun that can time travel versus a king with plate armor and a trident. Plate armor won't save ya against a bullet.
@@mishagaming1075nahh bro, that is a toy gun. Like this mf straight up shoot anything with a toy gun and it kills monster. We need the company name that makes that gun lethal dawg 😭😭
@@UntitledEdit-kb7tiHe actually got a real gun at the dunes. But yeah i'm surprised the toy gun is strong enough to actually kill monsters, they went a little overboard with the speed of projectiles it seems.
I've learned recently that you can get the Golden Bandana in Genocide, and it'd make Axis and Martlet a little more bareable. Axis could probably be no healed because of it. Martlet on the other hand... She'd still be a problem.
The final bosses in this game ignores defenses, which is similiar to the final (and some secret bosses) in Undertale and Deltarune. Which is suppose to make sense since the Bandana makes everything a joke, so making the bosses ignore defenses makes it fair.
Not true. Golden Bandana makes a HELL of a difference here. Axis' damage drops from 8 to 5, and Martlet's from 11 to 9. It's very useful to have. I doubt anyone would care if they don't know it matters. Gunpowder also full heals you. Sometimes it's better to try things than assume nothing will work.
@@sd2cthemelodyhog798 Unironically before you replied, a few minutes ago i replayed the geno route, somehow Martlet damage doesn't decrease when i compared it with DT, SJ, SG, and GB, tried restarting the game and still has the same results, i could think there's a rare bug that occured twice where Martlet ignore defenses but good to know that GB does make a difference on Martlet.
The only times that Flowey helped in a meaningful way were the steamworks door and the friendliness pellets. The barricades blocking Dalv’s door could’ve been easily shot down by Clover
How many tries you spend to get this amazing content for us? I mean genorun is really difficult. And you did it, without saves and retry! Congratulations!
Apart from some Flowey lines changing, I didn't notice too much different in this run. Though of course, that's not including the "not getting hit" part, and I doubt I'm gonna be able to do that haha. I hope someone does find out, though!
@@TheCyVap as far as I know someone has no hit genocide martlet and someone no hit every pacifist boss though I don’t know if they no hit anything else nor if the pacifist one was in a single run
I could probably do this if I could guarantee 3 consecutive hours of free time, but I'm too busy for that. Either way, fantastic run, I applaud your efforts. JUSTICE must be served.
*Clover:* "See now, I'm an engineer, that means I solve problems. Not problems like 'what is beauty', as that would fall under the purview of your conundrums of philosophy. I solve _practical_ problems. Like, 'how am I gonna stop some big mean Mother Hubbard from tearing me a structurally superfluous new behind?' The answer? _Use a gun._
You know, this game should have had something at the end to acknowledge a completely saveless one-try Obliteration run, where instead of fighting over save/load the scene at the end would be something more like: "You've done this before, haven't you. You tried everything again and again until you could get it perfect. And then you wiped my memories and started over and completely ignored me, just to demonstrate your sheer spite for me. But you're trapped in this universe same as I am. You're never going to be able to rewind past the beginning of the story. And out there in the world there will be millions of humans with more Determination, so if you leave, it'll be all gone. Forever."
@@AldinRamic Instead of Flowey torturing Clover with hundreds of his resets, it's the opposite: He gets tortured by clover doing a saveless one try run over and over again
Had to see the ending! I almost did that for my second run. Almost. 12 hours and I still didn't manage to beat it, although I reached the final boss, so I did my best. I did all that after neutral to troll Flowey after he went all False Omega Flowey on me.
Timestamp when flowey show or talked 2:35 Dark Ruins 12:02 Dark Ruins 21:50 Dark Ruins 22:50 Snowdin 46:43 Snowdin 48:31 Dunes? 58:46 East Mines 1:26:31 Wild East(friendliness pallets) 1:26:58 Wild Easy 1:27:47 Steamworks 1:29:40 Steamworks 1:42:45 Steamworks 1:52:15 Steamworks 1:54:07 Steamworks 2:00:08 Steamworks 2:16:38 New Home? Idk about the locations especially the last one cuz I havent played it P.s. Pls comment if I missed something
its crazy why is eli baildor the only person i really feel bad for he didn't deserve to die either did axis ceroba or starlo or dalv but eli baildor just hits different
So there is no difference? Even Flowey is still talking about Clover's countless deaths in this new timeline/route, the same way when you actually save and die
That dialogue is likely referring to the times he watched Clover die exiting the ruins before he really started to intervene (Right before we start playing) In the neutral ending he ends up monologuing about how he was tired tired of watching Clover ending up living with Toriel, so he manipulates things to make Clover want to leave. But after that, Flowey discovers that Clover never survives far enough to reach Asgore, and likely has to watch them die A LOT to confirm that they weren’t getting very far without help.
@@nbirckett09 I know that. But it doesn't have the same impact and Flowey should know this It's equivalent of if in Undertale, after the pacifist/neutral route, doing the no save genocide run, he would tell you the same thing.
It's an indication for an accessibility option you can enable which is the Autofire option. It makes it so you can focus on dodging rather than needing to spam your Z key.
Why is the genocide one the good ending??? All the souls are free, Chara will never happened and most of the monsters are still alive, the few monsters that die were the one that tried to kill clover, when the monsters didn’t want to fight he leaves them alone
Like El? The guy who just wanted to teach Clover to dance? Or the two times Clover threatened to kill Martlet? The first time he fought her, he kept attacking despite her reluctance to fight? Or the “no loose ends” part? Clover is definitely more moral than an Undertale Genocide, but Clover ain’t good.
Chara happened and why its the good ending its because you kill the ugly monster that crossed your way and all you heard was human must die then you free the souls take the kings souls and escape
Depends on what you encounter as far as I'm aware. Some things net more EXP than others. My initial try at a geno run had me get to LV11 for her, but there was another where I was 1 away from reaching 11.
Every Human holds certain quantity of Determination, while Frisk and Chara have their souls fully made out of it, unlike Clover and other humans that have mostly Justice or another trait, but still have Determination on small amounts But assuming the results on Genocide Routes, the end result would normally cause their main trait's ability to be enhanced to the limit Clover would end up developing enough determination to not only improve his soul's trait ability heavily, but also SAVE and LOAD While on someone with pure DT, it lead to literally wiping the timeline completely It basically means that the one with the higher Determination gets to control the timeline, alas someone with pure determination on their soul can completely control it and even more, even to cheat death in the middle of a situation
Factually incorrect, Every human including Clover can SAVE. That's why Photoshop Flowey has 6 SAVEs. Clover just can't because Flowey is more determined then he is. All that happens in the geno run is that Clover becomes more determined then Flowey and hence steals his SAVE. Kinda like what Photoshop Flowey does in Undertale when taking the souls and crashing your game.
I know there are some enemies like the scroll and Sentinel of Silence in the Ruins that disappear if you kill everyone too soon, can you still kill them in a genocide run? I saw El Bala…dir? who I know disappears if you kill everyone before reaching him, so I want to know if you can kill all semi-unique monsters and stay on genocide. (I ask this because I don’t want to do a genocide run myself).
I'm sorry if this is offensive, and I don't mean to disregard your hardwork or anything, I'm just a bit confused why didn't you take damage around 2:14:55? that red box always deals damage right?
I was holding left against the glass block which probably made the game think I was just BARELY out of the red block's hitbox. I've had it happen a few times, but also had it still hurt me at times, so... not super sure.
It's an indication for an accessibility option you can enable which is the Autofire option. It makes it so you can focus on dodging rather than needing to spam your Z key.
