UNEXPLAINED Secrets In Cyberpunk: Edgerunners 

Yea i think she left Night City like Judy.

Companions? I think you mean chooms!

i dont think she returned because it wouldnt make sense if she just came back to earth after david basically died to send her to the moon

Thanks for this!

@@adaptablexprox6082 She didn't even really want to be on the moon by the time she left to go there. She just did it because it was David's last wish. What she really wanted was for David to live for his own dreams, and instead he died for hers.

cyberpsychosis, not cyberphycosis

@@louielow582 nerd

@@splishsplash3492 ya

@@splishsplash3492 🤓

He died. It happens in stories. I guess Jackie needs to come back. His body was in better.condition and aradaka can't bring him back. Get the devil ending and you'll see.

I can't see any other possible scenario for this well said.

True, this is why we can IK Adam, Adam in the anime have a lot of wrong stats

The stats weren't wrong. He was intended to be that strong but they had to nerf him after none of the beta testers could beat him.

Fake memories. Johnny Died in the minute he got face to face with Smasher inside 'Saka Tower. Then, a glitch, a very dry and weird cut. Johnny is a cyberpsycho as well, he probably lies to himself because of his narcissism or Arasaka fucked his brain to believe that. He didn't survive to the roof, got shot, died, one woman found his body and belongings and kept it in secret and people only found out in 2045(As said in one of Cyberpunk Red's stories).

Of course! That is what happened!... said no one, ever.

In the game he shoots off Johnnys cyber arm

​@@Bikeadelic in the game we see how johnny remembers ot, but game constantly proved to us thay Johnny is unreliable narrator. According to the lore, Johnny was inside saka building when he encountered smasher, he started firing at him and bullets just kept bouncing off, then smasher turned and as story says " cut him in half with the barrage of bullets, there was surprised face on rocker's face, like he didnt expect to die there."

Or.... Maybe both arms have lethal cannons

LOL

Well, I guess one can say V is a whole different breed of being... One that doesn't know what ice means.

@@S1l_v2r "Where I'm going, we don't need to know those fancy words"

One could possibly argue that the Relic safeguarded V into being more resistant/resilient to counterhacks, like how it’s made a point a few times how V should’ve died from that bullet from Dex but the Relic salvaged him.

@@selfabsorbedsponge7246 protected him more than that. The Voodoo Boys’ hacking attack that kills several Netwatch agents can’t kill V, and neither could the spiked braindance that killed the Mayor. The Relic’s got something going on that makes it safeguard V from cyberattacks.

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Because like Adam Sandler, smasher was a joke! :)

@@Confused_Master 😂

I had to scroll down too far to find someone commenting on this.

I thought I was the only one who heard ir.

You either die a hero or live long enough to become a villain.

Seems a bit extreme to me. GoT season 8 wasn't shit because they dragged it, it was shit because the narrative, the dialogue, the arc conclusion and the expectation subversion were poorly handled. Having a show with 1 or 10 seasons matters only so much if the studio genuinely cares about a story. It's not that complicated, really: plan every major point ahead, don't switch writers, don't have 10 writers at the same time and keep it simple. There is no way of being sure, of course, because money is the end all be all of this industry, but I struggle to understand what was the point of the anime, if not to tell a story of their own. They could not have predicted it would be this success, so they could not have given it the green signal in an attempt to improve Cyberpunk 2077's reputation as a horrendous game disaster. Now, I understand people not wanting this to continue, but that would be a huge mistake. The story was captivating and had closure for many characters, but you would need just as much copium as those who think David is still alive to say that Lucy's ending is fine. Yeah, sure, there are no happy endings in Night City...except that it makes zero sense from a narrative perspective. What is the point of telling a sad story in a sad background other than being nihilistic? I mean, if that's so, then why watch the anime in the first place if everything is meaningless and everybody dies? This is not what stories are for and I feel like there are other less sadistic ways of passing time. Contrary to that, I believe Cyberpunk had the potential to tell an uplifting story: despite all, the characters dare to live, dare to take what they want and love despite the grief that will come. When I see Lucy's arc, I struggle to see what she got from that...Her relationship with David was like 30% of the soul of the story (if not more....), and it was all for nothing. Yeah, she went to the Moon, but whatever at this point. It's a dead dream now. She will be there, but her mind will always be on David, at least as far as the show left us. I'd love for a second season, not because I want David to come back and be with Lucy, but just to tie that loose end, do the character some justice. At least have her moving on somehow.

@@victorsouza4554 I never said I didn't want the series to continue. I would very much love for it to! Just not with the same characters. As I said, in my opinion the story arcs were ended well, that includes Lucy's arc too. "Zero sense from a narrative perspective"? "What is the point of telling a sad story in a sad background"? "This is not what stories are for."? These points of yours tell me that you either don't enjoy this genre (which is fine) or simply don't get it (which is also fine, I guess, but in that case you shouldn't really criticize it). Sad stories have been present for as long as stories have been present as some of the oldest stories in existence are sad. For a long time sad stories (in the form of tragedies) were even considered superior to any other kind of story. They were and still are appealing to people for many reasons. As you said yourself - there are no happy endings in Night City Something gives me the vibe that you yourself need a little bit of copium and that's why you want to see more of the known characters :D

Yep, some things are good because they end.

The story of David and the Rest of the cast seems perfectly concluded to me. I would also prefer a season 2 with a different cast as everything else would just take away from this perfect story.

Yeah I’m very interested in seeing more on Bartmoss; he left a lot to be uncovered/explored

Sad as it is to say very little chance we see lucy / David or any of them again in anime 😢

@@Starnesclipsso e things are good enough to get a second season and some things are so good it should be left alone as is.

How was it the muzzle flash if as hadn’t shot yet? 💀

I don't think it's the same penthouse as in the fixer ending, it has a different view compared to V's. It's possible that the megablock penthouses all have a similar floor plan, just like the mid tier apartment's V and David lived in have similar layouts.

David lives in tower 4 in arroyo . if you look at how megatowers are built then some of the apartments can repeat design so you are right . as for the flash it could also be a charged shot from his cyber arm . people forget that charging weapons to deal extra damage is a cyberpunk thing so you're kinda right there too

You are a holy grail of information

Well done friend.

Holy shit, you're right. That's why Delamain doesn't say where he's from.

On top of the tower, Morgan Blackhand fought smasher right? If so, than I know where ya got your info from, and that it's good.

@@drysoup3017 well technically Silverhand kinda switched place with Blackhand at the rooftop during the escape in the flashback, either because it was his ego to think that he had heroic death or just being an engram with incomplete memory it fills itself with data related with the event. So he thought he had a rivalry between him and Smasher but it was Blackhand all along.

Hmm, ill take a stab at it and say that since you need immuno supressors to counter cyberpsychosis, its a response from your human body. Thats also the reason Adam could keep himself together instead of just mindlessly killing stuff. Then theres also the thing that MaxTac are cyberpsychos caught alive and trained to be soldiers so maybe, just maybe, cyberpsychosis' effects are treatable, but not completely removable. That leads to my conclusion that cyberpsychosis is caused by your implants interacting with your human part of the body, maybe the nerves, and causing some sort of hormone imbalance that leads to psychosis.

@@mmfreshmeat2860 didnt the writers confirm that cyberpsychosis is purely psychological and non-physical? Then that makes me wonder why immuno-suppressants even exist in the first place. In a literal sense, it would prevent the chrome from being rejected by your body since its suppressed immune system is incapable of fighting it, then why would that prevent somebody from “running off the edge”? Idk I think thats a pretty solid plot hole but one that doesnt matter cause the series was fcking awesome.

@@weakest17yrold no they didn't it was said to be both psychological and physical and the nervous system being overwhelmed is a real thing as we're seeing with the usage of BCI testing like this Doctor also covers, he covers a lot in this area being a gamer himself ttg and otherwise ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-yQcmymaIpVE.html

​@@gharm9129Mike Pondsmith posted on a Reddit thread explaining that Cyberpsychosis is a result of the over indulgence in cyberware augmentations causing base mental health issues to become exaggerated as a person loses their "humanity" as in Cyberpunk the act of installing cyberware directly harms your humanity and empathy. The reason "High Functioning Cyberpsychos" exist is the same reason that high functioning sociopaths exist as well. In Adam Smashers case, the Borgware he was couldn't harm his already deceased humanity and lack of empathy allowing him to keep adding more and more while remaining "stable" as he was already a psycho to begin with.

Except there’s absolutely no plans for a season 2

@@Turkeysammich3000 up to now.

In Night City, there are no happy endings.

That would ruin the show and the theme of cyberpunk.

@@DivineNaruto no not really you can still become a like Johnny and come back. Arasaka is known for doing devious shit it could be possible they have David engram

Ep4, yeah she’s the security gal for the afterlife!

@@bumperjumper shes not the security guard, she is the owner. she smiles at them as an acknowledgement of sneaking in and essentially waiving it off as ok, instead of having them kicked out.

​@@TheSpencer033Correct. The events of Edgerunners all happened very shortly before V's own story, as well, so Rogue would definitely be the owner at that point.

3:54 ‘He got murked by Adam Sandler’ lol

Very well said, as always Jan!

Trigger is infamous for not having 2nd seasons though, so far only SSSS has a 2nd season and thats not and Imaishi work

@@HelloOnepiece Panties and Stockings got a season 2 and they were working on Inferno Cop season 2 (unfortunately the main actor died during preproduction). SSSS got 2 seasons and a movie. The reason why most of their shows get 1 season is because they are original standalone shows with a mostly complete story. Cyberpunk is a big universe and there are plenty of stories to tell even if it's not a continuation of David's story. They could do another standalone story with some tie in like SSSS Dynazenon/Gridman (A lot of these people also worked on Cyberpunk). There's another comment (Jose Urbinas/Bernie) on this video that goes more into this topic than I explained here, but there's more to this than just Triggers unwillingness to revisit previous work. Maybe, they changed their stance or something, but it does seem like they are open to doing more based on Homma's/Imaishi's interview.

I saw in another comment section someone saying it would be cool if they did the other background options. David's the street kid, season 2 could be corpo or nomad. It would be rad to see the different perspectives.

Who is trigger...ive been looking..

It’s the canonical pronunciation

Really appreciate it!! :)

im hoping that they're are some dlc tie in's to to the show. Like going to save david and lucy comes ask you, (V) for help.

@@lukecage7003 That would be a great idea!

@@lukecage7003 Holy shit. I think you're up to something, dude.

That shit through me off 😭

Thanks so much!! Means a lot fam!

Yeah she’s the security gal who lets David and Rebecca through!

@@bumperjumper shes not the security guard, she is the owner. she smiles at them as an acknowledgement of sneaking in and essentially waiving it off as ok, instead of having them kicked out.

cope harder lmao he dead 🤣

Man we are not getting a part 2, these theories about David being alive are desperate, biggest possibilities are that hes a construct or that he is dead. Also I don't think there will be a season 2 since trigger never does sequels/second seasons, switching studios would be not entertaining and most big studios wont bring the same shine to the series, honestly. I do like that CD red said that they want to do more shows/projects like edgerunners, which will be as good to watch as edgerunners definitely.

I care 0 about all the characters I just like watching them become nothing more than meat and potatoes , At the end Of their lives, You know how the streets go build them up strip them down

In cyber city, they only care about dying Living is just a party

@@foxesnroses this is perfectly represented by “I Really Want To Stay At Your House” where it talks about a big party and spending it with someone else

Yeah that’s a good one, shoulda included that one

That person was Rogue, not just someone who looked like her. Rebecca wasn’t friends with her, Rogue was just amused and waved them on through to enter her bar.

@@SoaringxDragon yeah thought so, i just didn't know if it was confirmed or not that it was rouge

:D

Ghost in the shell was for sure a huge influence for Edgerunners. Adds even more credibility to that theory, thanks! Yeah the pat on the head felt very “father-figure” to me I didn’t notice that reference/tie in to ffx! It’s literally my fav game of all time. Great observation

@@bumperjumper thank you for replying. The ffx thing just hit me as I was typing the other stuff. Would make sense that ghost in the shell was such a big deal. There is the daemon in the shell reference. Also Judy’s image on the holo is a ghost in a clamshell. She has a tattoo of it on her left arm, I think

@@bumperjumper I forgot to mention, there also seems to be a From Dusk Till Dawn reference. There is the bar the Dicky Twister where in the movie it mostly takes place in Titty Twister. Minus the vampires

The thing is No head No engram.

Oh and about the cyberpsychosis, there is a real debate about the society creating an environnement for the illness to be developped, than a illness do not exist if we do not put a name on it (for exemple: no one complained about burnout or depression before scientist talked about it) It mean than cyberpsychosis can exist from longer than we tought or also is just a "variant" of another psychosis And we do see in the game than they're looking for a psychological treatment for the cyberpsychosis and we see than they do not know it very well So I think the debate is open to the cyberpsychosis, but like everything, it is more about an ethical position than a real truth (I hope I was understandable, english isn't my mothertongue)

Thanks choom!! U da best

True: very well said!

I’ve had that question pop up multiple times actually. Unfortunately it seems very concrete that by “the product” they mean the cyberskeleton. That’s what implied but I do think the cyberskeleton wasn’t super duper special considering what Adam smasher was packing so I’ve talked about a theory where the actual product test was the copying technology in the Arasaka truck. Their ability to capture David’s mind in the truck could have been the true test

@@bumperjumper oh interesting, thank you!

@@bumperjumper it's definitely the skeleton, and the reason for it was that they wanted to mass produce it

@@bumperjumper But they also said that the skeleton was originally supposed to be tested/worn/used by Adam Smasher. Why would they let some random student, who just happens to have a higher tolerance test out this top-secret military tech instead of A.S.? The only reason I would understand is if the skeleton is potentially too dangerous for the user and they would rather let some random die if it malfunctions than their top tier soldier.

The true canon ending

Could they be owned by the same landlord? The similarities in apartments are uncanny

@@bumperjumper Different landlords in a totally different part of the city. Are you purposely acting dumb or you just not getting it??

Whoa that could be big

The idea that it’s propaganda makes sense; I doubt corpos would want people fleeing to the moon. Great observation!

The Highriders took control of Luna and they are very very anti corps That's why in 2077 they declared Luna "in crisis"

To be an engram you need to be Alive David doesn't even have a head.

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Same :/

Thanks! And yes, it’s like Night City is the true “main character” that they can keep building off of. Love your Delita profile pic btw, final fantasy tactics is one of my fav games!