Unhappy with your Saddle? Learn what shapes works best. How to read Saddles 

"A bigger person is uh... is uh going to have a larger sitting surface" hahaha

Very instructive video, John! Big fan of your work and attitude in bike advising. Thx for sharing.

WOW. Great info...thanks for the best explanation yet!

Lol John's outro music is awesome. Keep up the good work!

I'm 6'5 and have a similar slam position. This video helped me. Thank you.

I just flipped my stem and removed a spacer. I never considered it on my hybrid until now. I'm always leaning forward and putting pressure on my shoulders. The flip put me in the position I like both for my shoulders and sit bones after a small saddle tweak.

You're awesome !

Very informative as always John. Personally I find the Specialized toupe to be a very flat supportive saddle. The newer ones have slightly deeper padding ...

*Works great, comfortable too*

Grey, lime and black are a great colour pallet. My favourite

Nice Video...whooh really nid this advices..

Yep. I had a narrow little soft-ish rubber/plastic stock saddle (Bontrager). I had butt pains after riding all the time. I got a Brooks B67 Brown leather saddle and it's much better already, ZERO pains after the season-starting ride after a long winter-break from cycling, bike riding. So yeah, that's a GO from me. I will have this high quality leather Brooks saddle on my bike(S) for years to come and I use Proofide on it. It's a beautiful saddle and so comfy. Wide enough for my big ass, buttox. I'm a big heavy man! Big rider. The B17 is narrower and maybe too narrow for me, not sure, never tried it. But B67 is a GO!

Very clear content and logical thinking. Thanks!

I get people are different and their requirements are different, what works for one may not work for another. Recently I went in for a bike fit and he immediately saw that I was on the wrong saddle because I was not stable, my hips were rocking and it contributed to an unstable upper torso, it all contributed to a lousy fit, numb hands, badly peddling, and loss of power. He switched saddles, my hips stopped rocking, my torso was stable, and my pedaling improved dramatically, especially after getting my saddle height dialed in and my saddle fore and aft. My problem was also I had one leg shorter than the other by 1/2". Fixing my saddle fixed my reach as well. Next day on my bike ride was an entirely different experience, I had power and efficiency, hills that I normally got off my saddle to pump I stayed on the saddle and spun all the way up with no issue because I had power. My hand numbness also disappeared. Amazing.

5:05 that explains why more racey saddles tend to be thinner

Do you cover the Brooks Cambium line in any of your videos? Any general info or advice?

Excellent video. I solved my problem. I had a really nice selle italia on my old bike but it was uncomfortable. I thought that it was too curbed. I switched it out for something 1/5th the price, but flatter and more padded and it was a bit better. I bought a flat PRO saddle after that was flat but had little padding. It was the best. I bought a new bike with a better fit and with a relatively flat, but somewhat padded saddle. After two weeks of pain I switched the saddle for the old PRO saddle and never looked back. Even the fizik Arione is too curved for me. Go figure.

Good video, thank you. Your client's bike saddle is set way back. Isn't the frame a size too small?

I would be very surprised if the Prologo Zero did not solve his problem. I solved the same problem for myself. I loved the length and racing profile of the Arione. It’s a great saddle. But, the Prologo has similar length and racing profile characteristics. Where, both saddles are flat lengthwise, across the Zero is a truly flatter platform. No sloping and plenty of flat area for the sit bones to find a home. The Prologo Zero solved the same problem for me and it’s on both my bikes. Fantastic saddles! I’m 55, 6,1” 230lbs and above average flexibility. By the way the CPC technology on the Prologo saddles is amazing! Adds plenty of comfort and you can say good bye to sliding. Especially, when hammering hard. Your rear end stays planted. I highly recommend it.

Have you ever heard of the Infinity seat? Thinking of trying, I have gotten the best result form a flat saddle presently the sq lab 612 is my favorite but some days after 30-35 I am in to much sit bone area discomfort. Thought this Infinity seat might work.

Why not just try tilting the existing saddle forward (downward)?

greetings, what about us who have sciatica, a problem with the lower part of the spine, which one should we take

I'm surprised to see that you might suggest a saddle that has almost no pressure relief groove? I guess you're sitting then a bit higher due to better supported sitbones?

I would like to work on my bike fit with good coach, preferably with some medical knowledge due to my back issues. I am in Howard County MD. Are there organizations of some sort or should I ask at the local bike shops?

If I’m having issues with all my contact points on my mountain bike do I need a professional bike fit? Ive never seen that for mtb, but I’ve tried moving the bars, switching pedals, switching the saddle, switching the grips.. I’ve had the guys at the shop watch and try to help.. if anything it’s now worse because now I also have knee pain.

I would like to know if you solved this clients issue. It's exactly the same situation I find myself in. Tall rider, 82 kg, reasonably flexible in a moderately aggressive riding position. Tried 10 different saddles so far and haven't found one that takes the pressure off of my perineum. Numbness sets in at about half an hour of riding time. Currently using a Fabric Shallow which is the most comfortable so far, but not the solution. Thoughts?

Hi! Any advice for a saddle like that (with a real flat surface) with a wide of 150+? I tried to find this prologo but it's made only up to 142mm :(

I am putting a lawn chair on my bike. Problems solved.

But flipped up stem doesn't look cool, gotta look cool first then be comfy 😁😁😁

The Arione looks too far back to the point it may be unstable. Moving it forward may place him on the wider part of the saddle giving him more support.

Totally wish u could bike fit me lol... no place near me that I think is good tried one once I think it was 500$ and sucked

Why are some saddles so narrow? Stock one I have for my road bike is so narrow and uncomfortable. I just want to buy super wide and soft/cushiony saddle.

what's the difference between a bike seat and a saddle?

My body is hour glassed shape. I have a very large butt. Even through my female bike seat is wide, it still gives me a wedgy when I get on my bike. I've spent a whole day adjusting the height of my handlebars, and the angle of my handle bars. I have the saddle at its lowest position. Because my Dutch bike is a bit big for me. Even through when sitting on my bike, I can barely touch the ground. I can still ride the bike without my butt shifting side to side on the saddle. Does height of my bike make a difference in saddle size?

Why hasnt some smartass, (pun intended), invented a neutral seat rigged with pressure sensors that measures pressure points, sit bone distance and pressure build up points during movement. Surely it can't be that hard to take what the manufacturer used to measure all those parameters, craft a user friendly, customer version, then put them in bike dealerships with training for sales staff so they know which configuration works best for their customers, more accurately.

What is best saddle for BBC?

Bike fiting is a time thing and hard to do I have a 49in and 52 my 52 is my all ride any thing bike mmmmm like after a few miles straight my hand will get numb that's te only problem with that bike for my 49 its ok thats my work bike im on it for about 9 to 14 hour's a day but I can not give a full dinostics on that bike because I get on and off it frequently For my friend bike she get mid pain on her middle I lowered her seat raised it moved it front back change the bar stem and added a spacer so far she's at a level 5 out of 10 of her lower pain issues she is tall and a little heavy but she rides as much as I do

Curved saddles don't work in aggressive position

This is a great video but it misses 2 critical parts of the saddle fit. 1. If your testicles are bigger and hang down you need a wider front area of the saddle so you don't squish them into a smaller section also you can't use an open channel as they may slip into the channel and cause pain. 2 The size of your butt cheeks also is a huge factor for the back part of the saddle as wider butt cheeks you need a wider flat top so they don't push your sit bones away from the center. Lastly front and back position of saddle can make or break a good working saddle.

You could scoot the saddle forward a bit first...

WTB KODA endgame.

Sorry man, I really wanted to see this content, but you just went on and on about too many other (completely valid and helpful) points. Maybe this is just me, but as a content creator myself, I know that giving people the specific info they are looking for (usually what's in the title) quickly is really important to viewers and sharing. I hope this helps because you do have some good info that people (and I ) need.

I finally got fed up with trying out all those saddles and went out and bought a far better bike, now my seat is 15" wide and my back is cradled as I ride. Speed and comfort on a touring recumbent. Come to the dark side and leave pain and peer pressure behind you!

many words and words, but a little understandable

Sorry, but a 6'4" rider isn't easy to find the correct bike fit......

i mean its time to get rid of that ugly wood cladding behind you ......