The recovery key is found by going to Protect selecting a device click settings and under general click on "configure device groups" and scroll down to 'Other Configuration" Recovery code. You will need to click on reveal to allow you to copy the code. Finally as you showed us select the device and click adopt it will prompt you for the recovery code pasted your code there and on my device it was adopted right away. Thanks for the great video
Thanks Steve for watching. That is exactly what I am going for, to make it as relatable as possible. No golden path or polished bug-free production. Glad you liked it ☺
You can set a recovery password in the system settings on the donor Unifi Protect app, in your case that is the app on the UDM SE. This is the password that will be the camera password for pulling over all the cameras to the UNVR. The password is not a per-camera setting.
OFF TOPIC ... Hey Lars, watching you battle with the door on your rack cabinet, I can feel your frustration. Not sure if yours is the same but on my cabinet where the door hinges with the main cabinet there is a spring loaded latch you can very easily use to take the door off. For the 10sec to take it off and the 10sec to put it back on I find that whenever I'm working inside the cabinet it's worth taking off (then it won't keep banging into you). Hopefully you have the same spring loaded latch, I couldn't get a good look during your last two videos.
Hahaha, thanks David. It is a bit annoying, and I probably can take it off. I half left it like this for comedic effect too, so I can't complain as much 😂
Same boat. Just bought an NVR. Currently using my se for about 4 instant cameras. And about to do a house move with a whole house renovation and extention. My plan is to set up the NVR now from. Scratch and add the bullets and flexs to that..
@@LarsKlintTech 100% decide to jump the gun now and I don't mind nuking my current setup as that was just some internal instant cameras. Looking forward to getting my hands on the g5 flex over here in the UK. love your videos BTW. Been enjoying your back catalogue during my breaking from taking off 1970s era wallpaper!
Thanks, Lars. That was very useful and hit all the points I was wondering about. I've been holding off adding any more 4k devices since they really cut down the retention time on the UDM Pro. Only downside I guess is that you need to manually re-create all the detection zones and notifications per camera. Wonder if they migrate across if you know what the device password is (I don't know what it is on mine either). May be easier to set a password per device via the CLI and then migrate over? Only other concern would be heat - wonder how hot it will get with 3 or 4 drives in our summer in an environment without active cooling.
As Charles mentions in the comments too, a backup of Protect on the UDM SE and restore to the NVR might have carried everything across. It does have active cooling, so I think it will be fine. The fans only run when needed, so noise is pretty minimum.
I'm running the exact same setup. One thing I was wondering about, is there a need to run the protect app on the UDM SE? Seems like I could just uninstall that one.
Good question. I uninstalled Protect to start with, using the Unifi CLI, but every time you update the OS, the Protect app is installed again, so I just leave it there now.
"Recovery Code is required if you want Protect devices to be adopted by another Unifi Console"... can be found in: Protect > Setting(Gear) > scroll down to "Other Configurations" > Recovery Code... Reveal or Edit options.
That occurred to me as I watched back the video. Would have been much easier 🤦♂ I couldn't get my head around it being its own standalone device with a separate Protect app, so I never went down the backup-restore path.
I like yourself had to figure out that part of un manage the cameras from the UDMP so the NVR can start managing them. I did run into an issue though, not sure if you noticed that too. I wanted to get the full usage of the 10G SFP port , it seemed to work fine till I noticed that all the cameras kept getting disconnected for a few seconds every 2 minutes. I ended up changing to the 1G port on the UNVR. Did you notice this also or are you also using just the 1 GB port? Another thing I noticed is that the access through the portal is much faster and loads the feeds much better.
Yeah, it is a bit of a journey. Makes total sense now and I understand why, but couldn't at first. I use the RJ45 Cat6 1Gb connection. I haven't tried with the SFP yet, but that sounds like a bug somewhere. That is not right. I actually find the feed loads faster too, both locally and offsite, even though the UNVR is in a completely different building from the UDM SE.
I just went through the same upgrade from UDM Pro to NVR, but I just started by releasing all the cameras from my UDM Pro and then adopting them on my NVR. It didnt take long (got around 12 cameras) and just had to adjust the settings for detection etc. It has operated much more smoothly in Live View but the Protect still has a "lag" upon logging on where I can review anything right after login. I have to wait 10-30 secs before I can review any of the small detection clips or even view the Live View with a grid of 9 cameras. They take about the same 10-30 secs before they all start to show full live feed from each camera (3 small dots showing until ready).
That is very odd. Mine has been running super smooth and doesn't lag at all, even from remote access. Have you tried the obvious restart? Did you remove protect from the UDM Pro?
@@LarsKlintTech Yup, it was the same when Protect was running on my UDM so I suspect that the WD Purple disk might need to be changed or upgraded with a second one (took out the one in the UDM and put in the NVR).
Heads up! 1) Update NVR / UDM / etc. because it could cause camera's to not show up 2) You may have to restart your UDM or unplug the camera's to get UBI to stop the "managed by another device" message
Can i use the UNVR standalone? Like without a dream machine or cloudkey. Just the a uswitch to connect all the cameras and to connect the UNVR. And connecting the uswitch to my normal service provider ruter?
I just picked one up yesterday, but I did not know it was going to be its own device. I was thinking it’s was going to work as an extension of storage for the UDM. Now that I know it I don’t know if I should keep it 😂😂😂
I thought it was an extension too, but I don't mind. Especially with the mobile app for Protect you don't really notice, unless you split your cameras between the UDM and NVR.
It's a good question. I have since added Unifi Connect (video coming soon), and added another camera and AP, so I am not sure tbh. Not a very helpful answer, but I am not sure either way.
i have a client that has someone else managing their network but i am adding the unvr. Do I need to contact them to unmanage the cameras or can I factory reset the cameras and add them to the unvr?
You can factory reset the cameras and adopt them, but are you having both Protect and Network on the same LAN? And managed by two different entities? You might need to have both accounts on both (and just not have access to Network/Protect), as you'll need it all to talk to each other. I haven't done that approach before, so not entirely sure of the setup.
@@LarsKlintTech Yeah I just got a contract to add some cameras. I’m gonna be doing the wiring and adding the NVR, but I guess I’ll just contact the MSP to have them. Add the cameras and migrate Protect over to the NVR.
Can UNVR use the 4 bays in it INCLUDING the one bay in the UDM? Seems like a waste not having use of the 5th drive bay in the UDM just because you added the UNVR. I always assumed the UNVR was basically a JBOD until this video.
Kinda, and kinda not. The NVR is its own OS implementation, so it has its own Protect application, which will use the bays in the NVR only. You _can_ use two protect applications and split the cameras between the two. So, some cameras run on the NVR and some run on the UDM. Not ideal though.
The unify calculator is good except it doesn't retain your settings, so when you click on another device to compare, it resets everything back to zero - making it very tedious to compare across the devices
Good question. Hmmm.... You can run the NVR with Protect without a network controller (such as a UDM SE or DM), and the cameras will show in Protect on the NVR. However, the cameras need to connect to a switch to send the feed, so you will need some sort of switches and network infrastructure. For that reason, it is usually recommended having a Unifi network controller on some device somewhere, most likely a UDM SE. Does that make sense?
@@LarsKlintTech yea that’s perfect thank you. I have unifi aps, unifi gen 2 switch and docket container running the controller. It sounds like it should still work even though I’m not using a unifi firewall / routing solution.
I'm having problems with my NVR, the uProtect application keeps restarting in a loop, it doesn't start properly. I reboot the box and it starts again, + or - 24 hours pass and the problem occurs again. I changed the flash drive that existed inside the NVR (pendrive) for another pendrive and the same problem persists. I've tried everything!
@@LarsKlintTech There are no problems during the installation phase. I even tried to use the updated uprotect application in its latest version and in previous versions, it may even work for a few days but it always ends up generating the same bug, the protect application restarting in a loop.
I have a UDMSE. Then added a camera. That was fine. Recently added the UNVR since it was only $199 on sale. For the life of me I could not figure out why I could not see the camera on the UNVR. This was video was crucial to keep my sanity. lol. I have installed qty 1, Seagate Skyhawk AI 16TB Video Internal Hard Drive HDD - 3.5 Inch SATA 6Gb/s 256MB Cache for DVR NVR Security Camera System with Drive Health Management and in-house Rescue Services (ST16000VE002), in the UNVR for now. Works great. Thanx again!
@@tdadarwala I am with you Tushar. It took me a while (as you saw in the video) to realise there would be _another_ Protect app on the UNVR. Good luck with it and enjoy 😊
I can't find any official dB numbers for it, but "not very". It's summer here now, so it gets warmer inside and the fans come on more for that reason, but I don't notice it (as compared to my 24 Port 250W switch I had before). I wouldn't have it next to my bed, but it isn't noticeable.
@@LarsKlintTech Really appreciate the detailed response; I really want a "silent" system as the rack it will live in is in the same room as me, although I know anything with a mechanical hard drive is going to come with some un-avoidable noise no matter how silent the fans are.
@@enemy-og No worries at all. It won't be super quiet, as spinning hard drives and fans will make some noise. I just tested it with a simple phone app, and it runs at about 30-35 dB currently, but the fans aren't on full (it's cool weather today).
the fans I’m not too worried about as I could technically swap those out for Nocuta ones. I did the same for the Unifi 24 Port Enterprise (2.5gb) switch and it worked perfectly - took it from a monotone hum to completely silent. Do you happen to know if the HDD you’re using is 7200 or 5200rpm? I did some reading online that the 5200 aren’t miles away in speed but are considerably quieter.
Too many AP's by the looks of it regardless of the size claim. I noticed you had an adapter on the power lead that came with the UNVR which suggests the seller you bought it from is not a AU distributer and grey-importing, good luck with waranty. Next video will be swapping the uslessly bad idea to put a USB thumb drive inside and vital for its operation.... You are running whole lot on a flat VLAN (UDM's are such a domestic, small network device, not enterprise device). Put the cameras on another VLAN and feed it into the SFP+ port. Save the rest of your network the noise. Crikey, you went about this the long way. Export the config from Protect, import into the UNVR, done.
Hi Ben, thanks for your eloquent feedback. I'll address each of your points in turn. How many APs are the right number? How many per acre? I'm interested in your expert knowledge to get it right. As I mention the UNVR is provided by Ubiquiti for this review, hence the warranty is with Ubiquiti themselves. Which USB thumb drive are you referring to? Do you mean the SSD inside the UDM SE? Or something else? I have 4 VLANs for various purposes (guests, kids, iot), but didn't consider creating one for Protect devices. Not fully understanding how networking infrastructure works, would this speed up the overall performance of the network? Yes, it turned out it was the long way. You don't know something until you do, and I learnt. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, and used carelessly can cause sudden unforeseen social side effects. Thanks again 😊
I have done this already. Using this approach. Go to /settings/advanced. Enable SSH and set a password. Using PuTTY or Terminal, SSH to root@. Type the password you set in step 2. Type dpkg -P unifi-protect. Restart your UDM Pro.
