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@GrowlingSidewinder Месяц назад

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@edwardking186 Месяц назад

Next video: F-15C with AIM-174!

@vindigga6 Месяц назад

Can you do a dog fight with these? I know its not meant for that but i would like to see how a stress test goes. How many turns till the wings break (if they do) do the wings just bend? How much do you habe to labor to make hard turns? Purely a stress test.

@Sajuuk Месяц назад

Day 2 of asking for Sopwith Camel vs F22 😂

@numberyellow Месяц назад

NGAD vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx SU-57 vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx SU-47 vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx SU-47 vs SU-57, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx SU-47 vs NGAD, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx

@Anarchy_420 Месяц назад

@@Sajuuk actually someone was asking for that like lol at least two years ago ;)

@MattWaller04 Месяц назад

GS: I have no SAM cover SM-6s strapped to the wings: I *am* the SAM cover

@stcredzero Месяц назад

This is how the Israelis reacted to getting the F-15. "It's like a flying SAM site!"

@999maza Месяц назад

@@stcredzero accurate description of the Eagle II

@flameguy8025 Месяц назад

The Navy in DCS was wondering where two of their aim-174b’s went until you uploaded this video

@stcredzero Месяц назад

They'd wonder. Because these things turn everything into a quasi F-14 Tomcat!

@TRPilot06YT Месяц назад

@@stcredzero "We have Tomcat at home"

@TheHXCfrog Месяц назад

@flameguy8025 best to not ask questions.

@user-ks8ff4fm2f 28 дней назад

It’s 3

@awger90210 Месяц назад

"... that's an old missile... don't worry about it... it's already dead..." dammit GS, you just can't be trusted. :) :) :)

@GrowlingSidewinder Месяц назад

Hahaha yaaaaa I thought that might stress some of you out.

@MichelVaillancourt Месяц назад

Same reaction here, NGL

@tracytrawick322 Месяц назад

I was among the many waiting on the least capable threat to become the most capable... just bc it was the only missile in the air at that time. Longer odds have prevailed before, but gladly not this time. "Give the guy a break, I'll assure you he's earned it"...

@Shadow-itsumi Месяц назад

@@GrowlingSidewinder day one of asking for kf21 vs f22 or f5 vs s57 or f35 vs gyrofalcon or advark vs felon

@traviswalker8933 Месяц назад

@@Shadow-itsumiKF-21 doesn't exist in DCS.

@resurgam_b7 Месяц назад

14:11 "That's an old missile, don't worry about it. It's already dead, no energy, the seeker just sees me... No problem." *Immediately explodes? 😂 Come on man, you've got a reputation to uphold 😆

@blackbuttecruizr Месяц назад

Need the AIM 174 on the F15-EX

@roijoi6963 Месяц назад

Poseidon, AWACS, C-130, B-52s, tankers... HumVees :)

@themuaddib Месяц назад

The F-15EX's radar with (four? six?!?!!) of these strapped to its wings sounds unfair. And I'm here for it. Imagine that plus F-22s and F-35s with AIM-260s (comparable performance to Russian and Chinese hypersonics but with much better seeker heads) fitting in the same space as an AMRAAM and then complemented by the Peregrine (similar performance as the AMRAAM but half the size/twice the carry).

@blackbuttecruizr Месяц назад

@@themuaddib the EX could probably carry 6

@bobkundinger Месяц назад

One AMRAAM Left!!! Enemy AWAC would have given you the ACE!!!

@roijoi6963 Месяц назад

Yeah, I wondered about that oversight too.

@christopherreed4723 Месяц назад

So is the A-50, but he's not complaining. 😂

@carrier-buff Месяц назад

One thing I find interesting g is the interservice rivalry effecting the use and deployment of both the AIM-174B and AIM-260. From what I know, there is concern in the Navy that for the first 2-3 years of it production run, the Airforce is going to hog all the AIM-260's for itself and the Navy will receive small, infrequent delivery's of the missile. That is one of the main reasons it developed the AIM-174B, not only does it have a massive range exceeding that of the AIM-260 (albeit it is very large and cumbersome), but it is a Navy missile and the Navy controls who gets it. What we are likely to see is the Navy will have a near monopoly on the AIM-174B and it's future developments while the Airforce will have a near monopoly on the AIM-260 and it's developments, trading with each other for the others missile to get a balanced loadout.

@UnCannyValley67 Месяц назад

Well said.

@charlesrichardson8635 Месяц назад

Remember the SM-6 and AIM-174B are multirole missiles. That means they have more SM-6 type missiles not having to be in Vertical Launch Containers but still usable by the fleet AEGIS systems! The VLC's can run out and then you go home, but if you use a pile of AIM-174's on F18 SH you have a much longer time in theater before leaving. It will be interesting to see the exact tactics the Navy comes up with. The 174B has a 148 lbs warhead that can strike a specific area in a target ship or jet or ballistic missile. So not so much a rival idea to the AIM 260 which has to fit in stealth bays for the USAF.

@seanchang1202 Месяц назад

Get the SM-6s the Navy already have on hand and modify them for air launch is a brilliant way to bring back the Navy long lost ability since AIM-54s retired.

@roijoi6963 Месяц назад

John Boyd reported exactly this silly rivalry in the 1970s. Not sure if anything has changed or not.

@roijoi6963 Месяц назад

@@charlesrichardson8635 Super, excellent point about no at-sea reloading of RIM-6, but AIM-174s are good to go night and day. Also, ceiling on -174 is greater than 110,000ft. Good luck hiding in the hills from that.

@lanceloyer9147 Месяц назад

Unusual for you to win the fight and then not go pluck to wings off the AWACS.

@amircidin Месяц назад

Very rare indeed😂

@Ifoughtpiranhas Месяц назад

Now just imagine a B-21 Raider carrying 8 AIM-174B's. By the time your adversary found out about it, it would be over with already.

@namyun2743 Месяц назад

That's a scary thought. Assuming the AIM-174Bs weren't too long and fit in the internal bay, a B-21 could conceivably carry a full dozen of them, mayb emore. She'd be a real aerial sniper.

@galacticdragon3607 Месяц назад

Agree and maybe spice the kill factor with either F-35 or F-15EX escorts versus SU-35s???

@I-02 Месяц назад

@@namyun2743 The SM-6 *with the external booster* is 0.5 ft shorter than AGM-183, which can fit within a B-21.

@roijoi6963 Месяц назад

@@namyun2743 BONE-R would be epic. B1A Mach 2.2 speed and 75,000 lbs of hate! 20+ if only limited by weight.

@wilinstonthompson1352 Месяц назад

Man A B-21 gun truck , a F-35 providing targeting and a wedge tail in the rear for BF management ! Man we could actually defend Taiwan in a peer to peer

@TeeFunkable Месяц назад

Hmm, I seem to recall hearing about a nation that recently received some vipers, a nation who are somewhat known for jury-rigging absolutely everything and making it work and who also happen to fly missions that are pretty much all about standoff range due to heavy sam coverage near the frontlines. I wonder what would happen if they found a few shipments worth of SM-6's and maybe some instructional suggestions to go with them?

@59thfsaviation79 Месяц назад

I crewed F-16's for 10 years. it can handle that missile. We ran JDAM's in IRAQ for months on the wings.

@Yonada Месяц назад

Strapping it to the F-15C with it's amazing radar sounds even better, GS! Not to mention it's a much heftier plane and can probably more comfortably carry the missiles.

@JAEUFM Месяц назад

Tomcat pilots are jumping in the air, waving their arms, screaming 'Me, Me, Me', I bet.

@Pikilloification Месяц назад

More like Super F18 pilots

@crazedpilot747 Месяц назад

Put it on the E! That thing probably has the single best radar in DCS!

@TheBillyBlack Месяц назад

How about a modernized F-14??

@DownHereInChile Месяц назад

I love how 174 = 120+54

@pranavghantasala6808 22 дня назад

I love when you do missions with the SM-6, mainly because watching that _massive_ thing launch off the rail is the most satisfying thing ever

@j4s0n39 Месяц назад

With the Viper's limited radar, you _definitely_ need AWACS or F-35 datalink to provide a firing solution and target tracking to get the benefit of the AIM-174B.

@ElGringo21 Месяц назад

I would assume it would be using the APG-83 instead of the -68

@Shadowboost Месяц назад

APG-83 would see a Su-35 from around that range

@RRex_501 Месяц назад

Please fly the new Aim-174 against an Eurofighter with Meteors. Love your vids! ❤

@dl6519 Месяц назад

I'm starting to understand why the F-15EX is the Air Force's new darling. How many SM-6's can it carry? And, how far away can it get a radar lock? Yeah. It's going to be like a flying Arleigh Burke.

@MotionlessParadox Месяц назад

Thanks for always repping the beautiful viper, brother. Any chance we'll see more block 70/72 in the future 👀

@temporalrift1427 Месяц назад

mass-wise, i think strapping two AIM-174Bs onto an F-16 is perfectly doable. if you consider that an f-16 can drag two 2,000lb bombs around, and that the SM-6 weighs about 1,500lbs after the Mk 72 booster is removed (as we see here in the AIM-174B), there shouldn't really be anything physically stopping the air force from hitting up the navy and being like "hey AIM-260 is taking too damn long hook us up with some SM-6"

@Universal_exports87 Месяц назад

That's absolutely hilarious you started tipping after you fired the first one 😂😂😂😂😂

@michaelwparks Месяц назад

So what makes the -174 special is that it can be directed by multiple data link sources. The range is absolutely 200 miles, and that's achievable because the plane can launch it with no radar contact, but a more forward radar location can pick up the missiles data link and guide it in before it goes Pitbull. If command and control has to be passed along more than once that is also an option. Making long range missiles is easy, communicating with one accurately beyond line of sight is much harder.

@jeffmonson2073 Месяц назад

I was hoping you were gonna go polish off their AWACS as a final insult!

@istvanbarta Месяц назад

The best example to explain the missile launch parameters is like the slingshot or more similar analogy is shooting an arrow with a bow.

@roijoi6963 Месяц назад

Interesting. Explain.

@ArchAngel-FJB Месяц назад

The SM-6 is capable of reaching 150+ miles when launched from a ship. It's also capable of being guided by data link. It's a very impressive missile with a lot of potential uses.

@sol2wit781 Месяц назад

The F-16 fighting falcon is a jet that is no joke and you should not be messing with!

@mylesjaedin1154 Месяц назад

would love to see this missle with either the F15C or F15E platforms. Would love to see the missle + radar combo

@namyun2743 Месяц назад

F-15C might not be able to handle that chonky boy. The F-15E should be able.

@MattWaller04 Месяц назад

Think you could get 4 of them on a F-15E?

@davidvgus Месяц назад

YAAS!

@namyun2743 Месяц назад

@@MattWaller04 Maybe more.

@fantabuloussnuffaluffagus Месяц назад

You've still got an AMRAAM, the sky is clear and you didn't go after the AWACS?

@andersjjensen Месяц назад

He still had his GUN and the sky was clear. Sawing the enemy AWACS in half with the gun, after clearing out the fighters, is like fckn the captain of the cheerleaders of the opposing team after giving them an egg.

@zebpeep1390 Месяц назад

He forgor

@variabl3 Месяц назад

Um... hey bub. You have one AMRAAM left. Wouldn't you like to notch an A-50 on your hull? ;)

@theak1910 Месяц назад

Public estimates I've seen put the AIM-174 at ~1800lb, so the F-16 will probably be able to carry these on a station that can carry a 2000lb bomb. It would absolutely have to be flown very carefully in CAT III while they're still on the wings though.

@grahamdrew5512 Месяц назад

LOL the AIM174B outranges the F16's radar range! It would need AWACS for final link guidance...

@conneroliver5001 Месяц назад

I think that's what the navy has planned, since the f18s radar wont be able to use full potential of the missile, the f35s are gonna be lot closer guiding them in on some data link or sumn

@darkphoenix2 Месяц назад

The F-16V will have two additional pylons freed up thanks to the CFTs. Even if they weren't these big fat bois, I wonder how its aerodynamics are affected by carrying 8 AMRAAMS...

@cjcolehour2778 Месяц назад

unfortunately, it doesn't look like the usaf (or navy really) are going to be using cfts any time in the future.

@traviswalker8933 Месяц назад

@@cjcolehour2778the USAF uses CFTs on the F-15E.

@themuaddib Месяц назад

It's not the plane. It's not the pilot. It's the missiles. At this point I feel like you could strap some SM-6s on a Sopwith Camel and, assuming that an AWACS or datalink F-35 could guide, it could be combat capable in 2024.

@lord_kerman Месяц назад

The chances of your Felon losing a BVR fight to a Sopwith Camel are low, but never 0.

@jdo8405 Месяц назад

Back of the fridge thought: why hasn't Lockheed put DSI inlets on F-16s and cram the SNIPER Pod into the intake bump? Never mind the stealthy attributes, it would reduce drag and free up a pylon.

@ConnieShearer-g1m Месяц назад

Another point you might have made about “maximum range” is that the maximum “burn time” of the motor is only a fraction of the max range, so after that it’s only “coasting”, and having to maneuver eats away at its range. Perhaps that’s a reason that they usually “loft” early in flight: if it had to climb during the “coasting” phase, it would quickly bleed off ALL its energy.

@azamatismailov1438 Месяц назад

Forgot the A-50! Nooo!

@derloos Месяц назад

Hold on, didn't you forget their AWACS?

@MGAFFY Месяц назад

It honestly looks like the aim-174b was made to fit the f-16 lol

@BladeKi11a Месяц назад

Still waiting for GS to drop his version of the BF3 F-18 mission “Going Hunting”

@yono367 Месяц назад

I loved that mission as a kid but going back to it, its funny how incompetent the "Migs" were (they were flankers lmao)

@grimmWednesday Месяц назад

Clever switcheroo showing us the mig kill after saying “we should be ok” 😂

@stevelyons2195 Месяц назад

I like how the f-16s wings wobble mid flight. Look like they will fall off

@riskin620 Месяц назад

I thought one of the advantages of the 174B was that it could receive guidance from other assets, like surface ships, AWACS, or other aircraft. I'd love to see you leverage those capabilities of the missile rather than waiting for your own radar lock.

@MM-kv8ly Месяц назад

I was sure you would get shwacked after boasting that the final missile was out of energy and was no danger.

@HammerHead0908 Месяц назад

Video Suggestion: Now that the UKR Air Force has gotten ahold of its own F-16s, perhaps a mission in F-16AM in a ground attack role would be nice. Perhaps with older AIM-120B AMRAAMs that they are allegedly equipped with would be interesting. Mixture of A2G with HARMs and bombs and also A2A. Thanks GS!

@Upper_Hutt_Bogan Месяц назад

And the enemy AWAC..? You had dinner, now its pudding time!

@incvd Месяц назад

Did the missile even detonate? Looked like the first MiG just got sledge-hammered by the kinetic force alone! lol

@pidilutz Месяц назад

How about the F-15 with the Aim-174B against the Eurofighter Typhoon with the Meteors?

@Nathan-vt1jz Месяц назад

The missile look absolutely massive on the F-16! My guess is the F-16 could carry two of them - it regularly carries good size bombs.

@Canthus13 Месяц назад

Firing telephone poles from a Viper. It's like Viet Nam SAMs strapped to a jet.

@muratbozkurt5967 Месяц назад

They weigh around 890 kg so you could compare them with Mk-84's and carry them on the same pylons.... so you're fine :)..... there is an extensive analysis of the range by "Millennium 7 * HistoryTech".....

@joshuagarcia874 Месяц назад

In terms of weight, I compared them to HARMS

@levidotson6610 Месяц назад

This reminds me of an old project the air force worked on trying to mount Patriot missiles under the f-15

@scottwhitley3392 10 дней назад

Imagine with F-15EX with 4 of these, 6 AMRAAMs and 6 Sidewinders

@user-tl5fi9lz9z Месяц назад

I’d have gone after the A-50, too

@captaincipher Месяц назад

10:17 the missile knows where it is at all times

@JacksonBohne Месяц назад

bro i love your videos its been a fantastic 6 years

@galacticdragon3607 Месяц назад

Very well done with F-16 and demonstrated the possibilities.

@JosiasPira Месяц назад

Great fight ! The AIM-174B really levels the playing field. Just a bit surprised you didn't go for the AWACS kill after splashing them all.

@natedetailscars Месяц назад

Who knew MiG 29s were so good at catching telephone poles?

@user-zu7fr8qm8r Месяц назад

What no "Its an old missle it will be fine." Followed by a black kia screen? A good day indeed.

@jamesshand4116 Месяц назад

Can’t remember where I saw it but I’m remembering a f16 pilot talking about the air to ground load outs they would have on the f16 and how he had to blip the after burner to keep up with the aerial tanker, I’m saying this to say that the f16 can carry a pretty big payload and most likely can employ multiple SM-6s. Love to see it

@joshmarshall8018 Месяц назад

Put the aim-174’s on the F-15EX that would be the something to see.

@kflanders2826 Месяц назад

Rolling out with 1 AMRAAM left. Still armed. 😎

@Anarchy_420 Месяц назад

Please fly The F-15EX VS The MIG-31 BVR! Please fly The F-15STOL/MTD VS The SU-30SM Dogfight!

@AngryMan540 Месяц назад

this missile and the f16 XL would be scary

@adspie Месяц назад

i Want to see F15EX carry those AIM174B

@charlesrichardson8635 Месяц назад

Thanks for the very clear description of what and why you are doing things! Though the sim didn't see to do a good job of what a 148 lbs warhead would do to a jet! Also the max range from a surface launch is actually the AEGIS systems of multiple DD's leading it in. How did you know that energy of that last 77M was gone?

@snakeplissken1754 Месяц назад

A nice long and girthy object designed to penetrate hostile airspace and free an enemy pilot from the restraints of his cockpit. Such loving care.

@mikejames4648 Месяц назад

Biggest limitation is that there are just not that many Standard SM-6 / AIM-174B missiles available in inventory and the production line is relatively limited.

@Mike_Romeo Месяц назад

They have tons of SM-6 for the navy. You find them on any navy ship

@eric97909 Месяц назад

1:10 Me at the bar talking to the ladies

@702BattleBorn Месяц назад

Yo GS, hope things are well. Great video as always. How about the Cat with SM6? Thanks have a pleasant. Cheers

@Cornerstone-bk8vl Месяц назад

I would like to see the AIM 174 against the Mighty Dragon please!

@Garian9 Месяц назад

F-15EX with as many Aim-174Bs as you can fit vs anything.

@maxlin3442 Месяц назад

@johnkruton9708 Месяц назад

I knew it was coming and I still flinched “Gods 1 Finger ☠️ Death Punch”🥊

@BooneFinn Месяц назад

"I'm old, not obsolete"

@realitysux_0128 Месяц назад

Holy cow! Firing that single AIM-174 reminded me of what bench pressing with one missing plate looks like😳

@JAGRAFX Месяц назад

We see the Navy is using the SM-6 on its F/A-18 aircraft for a 200 mile stick.

@King_Dusty_Of_Pookytopia Месяц назад

"Millenuim 7* History Tech" estimated that the maximum kill range is around 385 miles/620kms.

@DavidK-Delta 16 дней назад

Ok, now we all need to see a pair of F15EX's with aim174 vs 4 J20 mighty dragons... 🤩🤩

@Lee-sti8wrx Месяц назад

Dude, that F-16 looked sick with the AIM-174B-SM6-Telegraph pole stuck to the wings. Looked cool how the wings were moving. Awesome video as usual brother. Not blowing wind up your ass lol but I haven't seen one shit video on your channel man, and as you know, I've been subscribed and watching for a fair few years now. Glad I found it dude.

@droppedpasta Месяц назад

Great! Little disappointed you didn’t go knock some engines off the awacs though

@billedwardz Месяц назад

I was rooting for that last mig. Brutal lol

@levidotson6610 Месяц назад

I’m amazed the f-16 can even lift a missile that heavy

@randyjohnson5426 Месяц назад

I love this channel! Im not even a gamer but ive learned so much pilot terms just watching. Any chance of installing guns on the AWACS and let them fight each other? I think that would entertaining as hell.

@entropy11 Месяц назад

And not one chute. These guys got schwacked.

@davisc1926 Месяц назад

Can't wait to see the video of the AIM-174B on an F-15C/E!!

@curtisbartlett8170 Месяц назад

Awww! Forgot the awacs. Good job !

@BENKYism Месяц назад

F-16C's in the 80's: 2 AIM-7's, 4 sidewinders F-16C's in the late 2020's: 2 SM-6's, 4 AMRAAM's

@andersjjensen Месяц назад

What? You didn't even pay that A-50 a personal visit and saw it in half with the gun! You be slacking on the job! :P

@HereticsRight Месяц назад

I would love to see a two vs two with the F15EX with Aim-174s giving high cover to an F35 vs some Su35s.

@Registered_Simp Месяц назад

Dawg, we need to start getting some tac-view footage of those 174's. Those two impacts were at diabolical speeds 💀

@foracal5608 Месяц назад

Imagine those things on the U-2 variant they were trying to make to carry anti ship missiles

@woistwalter7037 Месяц назад

Great video! It would be interesting to see you on the other side, defending Aim-174Bs. There should be no way to get into R-77 range, so im curious if there is a solution....

@roberts9095 Месяц назад

This thing would be absolutely filthy on the F-15

@leolex1289 Месяц назад

The conclusions of the author of the "Millennium 7 * HistoryTech" channel, based on some of his calculations, show that the true range of the Aim-174B missile is likely to be 620 kilometers, or about 400 miles.