United States vs European Union (USA vs EU) | Hearts of Iron 4 [HOI4 Modern Day]

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The United States vs the European Union in HOI4 Millennium Dawn! Which country will come out on top in the modern day mod? Many other factors will ultimately decide the fate of this battle, particularly the factions that form out of this war. Do you agree with the end results? Let me know
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Years before Europe went to war, Japan’s imperial ambitions targeted the divided Chinese Republic. Crippled by government paralysis and centuries of fitful development, China is still not a pushover. With vast reserves of manpower and resources, not to mention a giant landmass, can the Republic of China and its temporary ally withstand Japan?

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@DrewDurnil 6 лет назад

Spoiler Alert: I just realized the European Union put an Austrian in charge of California

@jonathanh.4405 6 лет назад

Drew Durnil haha I get it now

@mrgoldfish7452 6 лет назад

Drew Durnil You mean German?

@StevioGaming1 6 лет назад

Mr Goldfish no Arnold is Austrian

@Mortis3897 6 лет назад

Best prank gonna wrong

@StevioGaming1 6 лет назад

Spoiler alert, Drew durnil wins

@thecamp2000 5 лет назад

USA vs Europe winner Mexico seems legit

@anti_neon8910 4 года назад

Damn Mexicans

@josecortez1090 4 года назад

@@anti_neon8910 AaaRRREIIBBBbbaaaaa!!!

@Guys_its_me_Chris 4 года назад

Si si

@eatinsomtin9984 4 года назад

Bruh its european union. If it was europe than what would be the point of the fight

@anemu3819 4 года назад

@Georg Mexit

@Wiggyam 4 года назад

Jesus Christ! This game predicted Boris Johnson

@altaccounttrash6975 3 года назад

How

@ianslee4765 3 года назад

He was a conservative leader in 2016 hes probly the default conservative or right wing leader.

@imstephen2785 3 года назад

Ian Slee, no he wasn’t. He was the London Mayor but at the time of the referendum was a back bench MP. He’s PM in this because Boris & Michael Gove led the Leave campaign.

@ianslee4765 3 года назад

@@imstephen2785 "he was A conservative leader" Mayor of London is huge mate

@imstephen2785 3 года назад

Ian Slee so by that then Sadiq Kahn is a Labour leader?

@classyuk 5 лет назад

"Mexican Scotland* the greatest Nationality combo of all time, a bunch of men in kits running around with tacos

@pepememe5572 4 года назад

Polar bear tacos and blue whale tamales.

@Ludovicus1769 4 года назад

A Mexican and a Scottish person, kinda sounds like one of those bar jokes.

@mateorios8531 4 года назад

Don’t forget the sombreros

@sevnesioran6193 4 года назад

and sombreros!

@urielantoniobarcelosavenda780 3 года назад

Hell yeah!! Also took north ireland, right? Yeah, Ireland has more history with Mexico

@hj_vlogs6194 6 лет назад

The Mexicans overwhelmed the wall with an influx of bad hombres

@wolframstahl1263 6 лет назад

And the southern states ware taken over by communists. All their fears were real, we've been so blind!

@KAPTKRUNCHitize 6 лет назад

"The wall, it does nothing!"

@smokingunstudios6474 5 лет назад

Hunter Phillips Another settlement need your help here on market on your map

@victorwurtz9388 3 года назад

@reecewalker531 6 лет назад

Drew Durnil, the greatest professional hoi4 spectator

@oppositeswitzerland1058 2 года назад

Yes

@EEEEEEEE Год назад

@DarthSidian 6 лет назад

I, for one, welcome my new Terminator overlord.

@JerEditz 4 года назад

you mean Governator

@azaria_phd 2 года назад

Well he isn't exactly "new".

@ewanhassall7350 6 лет назад

"when Mexico sends their people, there not sending their best...."

@ewanhassall7350 6 лет назад

it was a joke...

@jcez4008 5 лет назад

“The wall... it does nothing”

@raviothethief8292 5 лет назад

LA PULGA did you watch the state of the union

@sim7508 5 лет назад

America fucking creamed Mexico in the Mexican-American war because of Santa Anna.

@ess9163 5 лет назад

@@sim7508 What? Why is that at all relevant to the conversation?

@OneJazzyBoye 6 лет назад

Even when most of Europe is against the US, the UK jumps in to help the USA.

@grepukun5557 6 лет назад

Free Form Jazz And still fails

@Timbo5000 6 лет назад

Yeah, pretty unrealistic

@CaesarsLegion1 6 лет назад

The commonwealth comes before the EU

@Timbo5000 6 лет назад

+Frosty Commonwealth, sure, but US? Nah. You are so close to your European allies that you were willing to join a political and economic union with them... that is really telling of how close our interests are. It is your right to leave now, but that you wanted to join in the past and we made it work for decades shows a lot about how close we are. Your Commonwealth is even closer, as you once formed an empire and developed an even closer relationship with them in many respects. But the US? No... they're not even a particularly good ally to begin with (they do what they please, without much heed for your opinion), let alone closer to you than the Commonwealth or your European allies.

@hansgruber788 5 лет назад

Free Form Jazz well yeah. The British and the American are kin. Europe are our rivals. I have no affiliation with Europeans

@Aldrahill 6 лет назад

*Greatest achievement is watching HOI4* Shine on your crazy diamond.

@Nordisk11 6 лет назад

>Crazy Diamond DORARARARARARARARARARARARARARARARARARA

@ArmandLegGames 6 лет назад

He was caught in the crossfire of childhood and stardom.

@duwang8499 6 лет назад

Im gonna fix that spaghetti, chew

@inessssa 6 лет назад

blown on the steel breeze

@arkhamsquire4503 6 лет назад

Aldra Hill Really wish you were here

@don-jx2xn 5 лет назад

6:58 they've predicted the future yet again

@forumix7512 4 года назад

So true

@vincentmeade2534 5 лет назад

remember when Drew played hoi4 yeah me neither

@jamesanderson7243 5 лет назад

Did he actually play hoi4 once

@maximilienderobespierre5583 5 лет назад

@@jamesanderson7243 yes he played as the soviet union

@yets0 4 года назад

@@jamesanderson7243 facist america

@victorwurtz9388 3 года назад

@Bram06 6 лет назад

Britain became Air Strip One

@LukeBunyip 6 лет назад

Doublethink plus.

@NotVeryRandomDude 6 лет назад

Luke Bunyip bb bb bb

@susantramer6713 6 лет назад

The Thought Police approves

@NotVeryRandomDude 6 лет назад

What is this "Britain" you speak of?

@A_annoying_rodent 6 лет назад

ThatRandomDude I think we sho6ld report him to the ministry of education *I hope it was education who brainwashed the people, it has been some time.*

@theallinonegamer8482 6 лет назад

10:10 *Befriend Argentina* is that just a fetish for germans?

@thefirstprimariscatosicari6870 5 лет назад

And the Italians.

@foxfrightdario5175 5 лет назад

@victorwurtz9388 3 года назад

@iriechpiemapping8656 5 лет назад

I just want to see what happens to Drew’s homeland, Switzerland. Truly the greatest nation of observers.

@rajeshparihar2521 2 года назад

It's Luxsumberg

@EEEEEEEE Год назад

@ethribin4188 4 года назад

I wouldnt say the EU or usa has won/lost. Id say everyone else has taken advantage of them fighting eachother.

@salmana1441 6 лет назад

Can you please do a continental war. Like each continent is unified and battle it out to see which continent is superior

@heisvi9317 6 лет назад

Lovro Hrkac he can split it up into east asia, south east Asia, south Asia and the middle east

@davilimalol4612 6 лет назад

Default or modern Day?

@tomsi6177 6 лет назад

Basically Europe Vs Asia(default)

@Tomthemadone 6 лет назад

or north america/america vs Eurasia

@jasinrefiku2914 6 лет назад

Asia might have the manpower, but eu has the factories,buildings etc mate. Asian units'd probably die invading EU due to infrastructure and lack of supplies.

@slammy333 6 лет назад

Life pro tip: don’t scroll down

@LukeBunyip 6 лет назад

Now you tell me....

@thepunisher4356 6 лет назад

Screw your advice

@axolot9097 6 лет назад

Thanks guy

@flightlessboy4040 5 лет назад

Too late

@Ghost-bk1mo 5 лет назад

"Japan has allied to the U.S." Hmm guess they learned from their 1st mistake haha

@barelyfree9427 5 лет назад

Yeah nukes will do that.

@Robcomain 5 лет назад

0:04 I'm alone to see Ukrain's flag ?

@nataliegibbs4749 5 лет назад

@politicallyinaccuratetoast4757 5 лет назад

@TheAcdcninja 4 года назад

That’s what I thought the joke was gonna be

@ivankolosov8381 4 года назад

@duckduckinator3185 4 года назад

That happens often

@thewalrusman57 6 лет назад

Why the capital isn't Brussels?

@ewanw6027 6 лет назад

Because we all know Brussels is just the slave of Berlin and herr merkel

@icantcomeupwithagoodusername 6 лет назад

In millennium dawn you can form the EU with UK, Germany and italy. And your capital does nit change when you form the EU so IF you make the EU as italy then the capital Will still be rome

@vincentlapaix7541 6 лет назад

xXsniperXx roblox not France ? Weird

@Redhead-pf8le 6 лет назад

You can form it with France, he just didn't mentioned it

@truedarklander 6 лет назад

Literally unplayable am I right

@matheusrondelleite8015 6 лет назад

"She was ready to make her escape" Anyone notice that? Hahahahahhahahahahsh laughing until the next video

@Ultigen 5 лет назад

I’d say HOI4’s bias towards Europe makes comparisons like this a little hard. HOI4 works well when your taking it in context as a WW2 game but it does have a little too much bias towards the European front in the base game.

@maxpoma4775 5 лет назад

9:45 Can we just talk about Mexican Scotland for a second?

@barelyfree9427 5 лет назад

Damnit there goes all the good scotch!

@SquidProQuo80 5 лет назад

Their capital at Edin-burro

@konradvonschnitzeldorf6506 6 лет назад

The Terminator part killed me. He is european after all.

@joshbray5036 6 лет назад

That moment when Alex Jones is the leader of a communist Wales. *Seinfeld theme begins playing*

@godfree4all 6 лет назад

i liked the part were mexico takes the US single handed

@barelyfree9427 5 лет назад

That right there shows you how fictitious this play through ended up :'D.

@Lots17 5 лет назад

Well the EU killed a lot

@ashblue778 4 года назад

*single handedly* riiiiigghhtttttttttt

@victorwurtz9388 3 года назад

@MauricioRomanov 3 года назад

@@barelyfree9427 not that much of a fiction, when two major powers are weakend, a third part comes and reap the benefits. It was like this back in the 40s, this was what made America become a major economic power.

@MrCornmeal 6 лет назад

That was a good video! Liked the situation you set up.

@sampaper7718 6 лет назад

10:10 Oh my god, the rumours where true, Senora Merkel lived!

@Gex324 6 лет назад

Padlocked Paper Senora Mekral

@cooltwittertag 5 лет назад

Señora Merkle

@makaramuss 6 лет назад

8:01 mexico:HEY AMERICA America:huh... you again? Mexico:YOUR WALL SUCKS! America:what? how dare... *Mexice Zerg rushes in*

@viggoelenius4400 4 года назад

9:48 The leader of communist wales is Alex Jones

@DragonSunday35 5 лет назад

0:05 >When your ideology graph makes the Ukrainian flag

@Merluch 3 года назад

Then non-aligened and commie make the poland flag

@TheSpearkan 6 лет назад

The concept of the UK not only out of the EU but allied with Trump, at war with the EU with Boris Johnson of all people leading the country is enough to give me nightmares

@MilesProwerHere 6 лет назад

The concept of the Uk being out of the EU with a hard brexit and strong ties with world powers and other strong nations is a dream come true.

@RGI-gy5uc 6 лет назад

Aleks Szwarczewski A dream true for you maybe, but an economic disaster for the working class.

@Jupiter__001_ 6 лет назад

Terra Ball Unless we can increase trade with those other nations, such as America, in which case our industry should not be damaged _too_ much, and the price of American goods (like soft drinks) should decrease to help soak up the rest of the damage.

@nonautemrexchristus5637 6 лет назад

Terra Ball the working class is already destroyed by the Tories, time to rebuild and restructure

@mildsalsa6697 6 лет назад

general Rommel increasing benefits isn't rebuilding

@sayerslot 6 лет назад

This feels like a Binkov's Battlegrounds video but hosted by a disabled trans

@LukeBunyip 6 лет назад

Please tell us more about disabled trans. Enquiring minds, yadda yadda.

@oworcestershire7331 5 лет назад

@@LukeBunyip oi! Joke.

@virlomientreri6970 6 лет назад

Here's one to try: The Allies failed the invasion of Normandy, and were pushed back to reorganize in England. German could then focus a bit more against the Soviet Union, but would ultimately fail since the Soviets had seemingly limitless manpower. The Soviet Union would push the Nazis back across Europe, creating an Iron Curtain that wasn't in Eastern Europe, but rather on France's Atlantic coast. An Iron Curtain across the entire continent, basically.

@Minifutzi_o.O 5 лет назад

Time for a new Spanish conquista

@nathanielhart1299 2 года назад

Miss these videos so much😭😭

@peoplesrepublicofliberland5606 6 лет назад

Wow! Making Mexico Gr8 again

@finnklapproth6023 6 лет назад

Zimmermann telegram 2.0 !!!

@NotReallySan 5 лет назад

lol yeah

@cloope2210 5 лет назад

USA: getting rid of illegal immigrants EU: getting rid of memes

@barelyfree9427 5 лет назад

Bravo for throwing the word "illegal" in there which everyone seems to forget.

@ok-op8lg 4 года назад

hungary and poland didnt even let the immigrants in first

@1127TOMI 4 года назад

@@barelyfree9427 BUT but.... they are immigrants And *ALL* are welcome!

@forumix7512 4 года назад

@@ok-op8lg what? Polish government is very grateful for immigrants! It's very nice for me.

@ok-op8lg 4 года назад

@@forumix7512 legal, documented immigrants that arent from the middle east are accepted. only.

@VaciliNikoMavich 6 лет назад

The part with California being puppet made me laugh xD I dare you to try a Command amd Conquer Generals or Red Alert 2 scenario!

@geraltzrivii4582 6 лет назад

It was the most interesting and the funniest video of HoI4 xD

@hastyarchangel21 6 лет назад

Did you watch the video where he used his hair as a brush? You may want to reconsider your answer

@geraltzrivii4582 6 лет назад

Hasty Archangel Maybe you are right :D watchbrush.com is love

@KAPTKRUNCHitize 6 лет назад

I second this

@undercover1790 5 лет назад

0:45 *When you have more air power and ships then 10 countries combined*

@jacko7253 5 лет назад

Did I see Pauline Hanson as prime minister of Australia? That’s the real world chaos.

@loomhigh 5 лет назад

Ironically her claims of being invaded by Indonesians were made true lol.

@soumajitsen1395 2 года назад

7:18 I like how Drew just played the European Anthem when Russia helped the USA - classic Drew for you.

@drift7670 6 лет назад

Drew, you done goofed.

@Fractal821 5 лет назад

_This comment is banned by the European Union_

@angryinternetperson6629 5 лет назад

Be careful when trying to make some good memes... EU will come to get ya when you least expect. :)

@fabiansaerve 3 года назад

Somehow article 13 was just a myth

@fabiansaerve 3 года назад

@иιghτ lιgнt and memes are still alive like everything in the internet lol

@martinmendl1399 3 года назад

Turns out the Article 13 actually didn’t mean anything at all...

@declanambrose9055 6 лет назад

5:55 you missed a chance here. Seize the beans of production!

@nenad632 5 лет назад

GG Drew

@thirdinternationaltheory 6 лет назад

Drew’s paintbrush hair is starting to come back lol.

@ardentbubblynickel1232 6 лет назад

Is this video secretly what Hittler wanted

@eliteranger1001 6 лет назад

ArdentPlayz Pro BTD gamer But with less socialism and migrants

@aliciavivi2147 6 лет назад

No the EU is the complete opposite of Hitler, it is basically communist.

@Tomthemadone 6 лет назад

William johnsson immigrants are fine, but Refugees arent fine

@ardentbubblynickel1232 6 лет назад

Hideki Tōjō haven't you noticed who is leading them though a German you never know after they United they could've went on a holocaust.XD

@ardentbubblynickel1232 6 лет назад

Jan I don't even know anymore

@ryansymons7179 6 лет назад

Hey Drew, maybe you can do a video like this in the future, like maybe a combined North America vs the EU, that way things seem a little bit more even. But it's just a suggestion.

@Storeenzo 4 года назад

7:00 okay that's scary

@yrstrly98 6 лет назад

Love how merkel was going to mimic adolf's escape route

@cooltwittertag 6 лет назад

The EU was never on their Blackfoot, they had a gigantic army garrison their homeland.

@Vincrand 5 лет назад

The patreon list in itself is worth listening to.

@inspector_beyond 6 лет назад

Try EU vs Russia. No Alliences, just them And where the hell is Paradox Mega Campaign videos? You can upload one video per game, you know.

@PosiHangsOut 5 лет назад

"EU" "No Alliences" "E U" "N O A L L I E N C E S"

@LookHereMars 5 лет назад

The E.U would win short of Nuclear M.A.D that Scenario is overkill. The European Union has the much larger Economy Industrial infrastructure population and Military capability. Not saying defeating the Russian Federation would be an easy task but a Combined European Union would undoubtedly defeat Russia outright or force them into an Armistice.

@hendrikdependrik1891 5 лет назад

@@LookHereMars I quite doubt it. It will be a stalemate at least. Russia has the Russian Winter, the advantage of being well united and the fact they have little to lose. Indeed they can lose a lot of land, but that isn't worth that much compared to EU's one. Russia also can retreat to landlocked and polar ice-locked Siberia whereas the EU probably can only retreat to Spain and Ireland, both countries surrounded by sea and ocean. When more ice has melted and a sea invasion from the north is possible, the EU will defeat Russia with ease.

@Gummibaerchen234 5 лет назад

9:45 Mexican Scotland lmao Who was the brave mexican scottish freedom figther? Wiliam Juan Jesus Carlos Wallace or Roberto de la Bruce ?

@ess9163 5 лет назад

Lmfao, I just imagine a bar, everyones havin a good time and this guys like, "Wooooo, quiren tequila mi amigos?!" and theyre just like, "The fock mate?"

@muricanpepe3100 6 лет назад

Dont you mean smart countries when some countries just want to watch

@SovietYugoslav 3 года назад

Lmao at the last second “befriend Argentina”

@jediptjedipt7594 3 года назад

As an EU citizen I am happy that we are so close with the US, irl we'd be kinda screwed without them.

@lemonosharky3338 6 лет назад

I've played as the UK in Frederick's nightmare mod and I wondered where the Australian divisions were and I saw Australia island hopping in the Pacific Edit: whilst I was doing all the work myself in Europe alongside Turkey who wasn't really doing much with its one division

@bonecanoe86 6 лет назад

Mexican Scotland

@LukeBunyip 6 лет назад

Brazilian Wales. Argentine Ireland.

@l.apastore4208 5 лет назад

I understood that last reference about readying to make her escape

@TheDave8829 6 лет назад

Hey Interesting Challenge, I would be interesting in seeing how much different it would turn out if the European Union was a faction instead of a country

@Didi-by2ns 6 лет назад

Woahh!

@lisaamah4372 4 года назад

HE PREDICTED BORIS JOHNSON BECOMING PRIMEMINISTER

@seyamrahman1002 5 лет назад

War in Korean Peninsula again? The first one never ended buddy

@jefflukey123 6 лет назад

I see you making these references at the end of the video, there were CIA documents released that stated Hitler might have escaped to Argentina. Sub

@thesilverfang8814 6 лет назад

I think I might just comment "Florence" until Drew notices me again Only the old bois will remember ofcourse :(

@Vesporeon 6 лет назад

The Silverfang God has come back to life

@thesilverfang8814 6 лет назад

+Jan Yes I am, it would be weird to have a Flemish pfp if I wasn't ;)

@TheBloperM 6 лет назад

eu vs ussr vs usa!

@Christopher_Vose 2 года назад

It's funny that a game in 2018 predicted Boris Johnson's rise to power, but it's scary that the BattleTech: Jihad Hot Spots: Terra sourcebook (a RPG), predicted it way back in 2010.

@beastieman4207 6 лет назад

didn't expect this lol

@timothyf0796 6 лет назад

*Sees Indonesia took a small part of Australia* "YES!! JUST DO IT!!" *Sees "The Indonesian Union" written in Australia at the end* *Starts blasting Indonesia Raya*

@thetrashmaster1352 6 лет назад

Bodat You win this time Indonesia.

@dolunay9087 6 лет назад

Is this real life ?

@JMonarch404 6 лет назад

Afinoxis of Anatolia Yes

@DM-fc4ym 6 лет назад

Yes

@gummiogtrausti7947 6 лет назад

Yeah

@LukeBunyip 6 лет назад

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-TPPWWkhRT8I.htmlm26s

@cdw2468 6 лет назад

Is this just fantasy

@Ksankawaii 6 лет назад

She was ready to do her escape like her ancestor teached her. Nice.

@BallistaBomber 5 лет назад

3:27 top 10 celebrity comebacks of all timr

@alfric3614 5 лет назад

I wouldn’t be surprised that Russia would back America in a war against the EU as Russian-European relations are doing very well

@brandonford7026 3 года назад

True especially with eastern europe i am sure russia would be down to take back eastern europe

@asmus576 4 года назад

4:00 Kazakh SSR Marcus Jones, ok, wtf is going on here?

@Quarren_ 5 лет назад

Hi saying they banned memes so can’t wait to see how this plays out

@paulinotou 5 лет назад

Mexico conquering the USA was the biggest plot twist in this whole video. I'm curious to what virtual politics was going on in this game for that to be a reality.

@cb-hz6dm 6 лет назад

When is the next colab with isp and alex

@jqwan5474 6 лет назад

cb3000 1 I neeeeeeeeeed this^

@josebetacourt5108 5 лет назад

Redo but they cant form alliances

@mp9705 5 лет назад

Honestly it would be cool if they added a modifier to America that created event spawned troops whenever a state was invaded to show the armed populace that would definitely rise up in real life.

@setesh1294 5 лет назад

I honestly think that as soon as a war with the EU broke out IRL, military production would immediately ramp up, as well as basically all the inactive divisions and units being reactivated. Not only that, but I also think that we would probably re initiate the draft as much as I hate to say it. And I honestly think It would only take a few months, six at most, before we were in full War economy.

@magneticfire7515 5 лет назад

00:06 good ol' Ukranian Flag

@redviper1608 6 лет назад

I think you misspelled “Russia” in the title

@estebanperz4717 6 лет назад

This is the happiest day of my life

@cevr1292 6 лет назад

I thought this was a old video for a sec, looks like the paintbrush hair is coming back quickly.

@nullfunf4721 6 лет назад

Urgh EU as one country hurts my brain and my heart

@strangeman7577 6 лет назад

You should do North America vs Europe

@redsilent1 6 лет назад

"that barricade they're building"

@makeprussiaathingagain7368 6 лет назад

Here's a good idea for vs video Balkan legion vs central powers

@iakkire9854 6 лет назад

United States declared war on the European Union. Nice GO EU!

@barelyfree9427 5 лет назад

What really cracked me up was how they supposedly had a larger navy :'D, they being the EU. But at least they'd stand a better chance than Mexico.

@dakotaballenger8374 5 лет назад

Mexico? Ahahahahahahahaa I'm dead, they don't even have tanks or really an air force. This is bs.

@godfree4all 5 лет назад

Dakota Ballenger what did you expect 50 v 20

@dakotaballenger8374 5 лет назад

@@godfree4all more like 100 vs 10

@PosiHangsOut 5 лет назад

It's the USA's fault for having no divisions there

@thefirstprimariscatosicari6870 5 лет назад

That's what happens when you start an attrition war against countries with more man power than you.

@paulinotou 5 лет назад

@@PosiHangsOut I can't speak for the game, but in reality the US has multiple infantry and amored divisions stationed in Texas.

@theARMYGamer 5 лет назад

How do you set these scenarios up? what if wanted to play as USA vs EU, how do i ensure EU forms and active build up happens?

@joecool4219 6 лет назад

Do this again but make an eye faction instead of one nation

@zyopera 6 лет назад

RVLE EVROPE

@bartekmarianski8043 6 лет назад

Hmm, why EU joined communist faction? HMMMMM I AM VERY CURIOUS

@gabrielhernandez8483 6 лет назад

I don’t know, Maybe because they had a common enemy? They left right after the war, anyway

@roadhigher 6 лет назад

Being on the same team clearly means following the same ideology, just like how the USA and UK were both Stalinists in WW2 because they were allied with the USSR right?