Piece of shit wagner and whats with the full length trees? Do they make 90 ft 2x4's in new zealand? I drove a Letourneau for many years and its not so much the operator its the machine that makes this guy so slow.
This machine is made in USA I used to drive them but they were set up for lifting overseas containers The thing that was hard to get used to is the main lifting boom is right in the way of your site so you have to keep swaying you body back and forth on the seat to see where you are going.
Okay, so huge machine, absolutely enormous. But when something is that slow, it kind of has to take big loads at a time to not stop the workflow completely. Also probs to the truck driver for reversing the trailer in between that stack of stems like nobody's business.
Either the loader has got really poor steering lock or the power steering has failed. It needed a few goes lining up for the load!!! The truck would have been quicker manouvering to the loader. Great machine otherwise.
@MotoScootMech No biggie man. Id just say type in "Wagner L90" in the search bar and watch some of the other videos with other guys operating the machine, No its not the fastest machine and to be honest, the high lift stacker is faster, but these are the ones that pick up the heavy loads. We actually traded one of the older L90s we have for an L120. same machine, it just lifts a bigger load. Hopefully from the time that video was made, this guy has gained a little more experience with it
It takes a long time to set the machine in the right position for unloading. In that time you've unloaded 2 trucks with a smaller, more flexibele machine like an excavator with claw I think.
Shit of all my years in this country and i have had an eye on logging and etc. I have never seen one of these heavy lifters running about. And god they are slow.
Cool video, almost the exact log truck rigging we use here in western Alberta Canada. Most of the loads here are shorter, but the truck has a 14' bunk and an 11' on the trailer. Same Wagner stacker's we have at the mill here.
I operate a Wagner L90 and its way faster than this.. Although I think thats a L120 and is definitely bigger but I would say the operator is a bit inexperienced perhaps.
@HelloRenauldo The L180 high lift is a really cool machine too =D. Its more unique than the regular 180's. I guess i dont really know where to start asking you questions about it, but you seem to not like it quite so much. How come? Would you prefer to run a wagner? They do seem like more complex machines to run since like you said they can lift bigger loads and their configuration is much different. Also, do you like working moving timber around more than earth? It seems more challenging
The thing picked up those logs with ridiculous ease. I also noticed that the logs go out a long ways. Here in the states they aren't allowed to be that long. I know things are different in New Zealand but do you guys have to have a special loading document which states you can transport logs that long as long as they don't hit the roads?
At the Sierra Pacific Mill in Quincy,Ca, they still run 2 or 3 LeTourneaus 24/7. All electric drive, gear driven steer, lift, tilt, with hydraulic grab! Slow, but HUGE! They had a new Cat loader outfitted with a clamp, it couldn't do anything near what the LeTourneaus could.
truck driver is tipiwai and he's a good operator location is kaingaroa forest central north island of nz driver of wagner is kunikuni and just learning to operate but wagner is also slow as when hydraulic pump blew it was replaced with a cheaper weaker unit that will only lift 65 tonnes safely now not the 75 it was designed for
I used to haul logs in NZ when i was 19 years old. Trees must be heavier now, as i figure it is only about 25 tons of logs there! Piss poor planning of the yard , making all those turns! Need to fire the manager there!
@HelloRenauldo new land speed world record any time soon. If u have any more cool facts about the machine, i would like to hear them since it is a fairly uncommon piece of heavy equipment and you dont see too many of them these days. I wont make the same mistake again either if i learn a bit more about it =D
i have to say if that is 75 ton of logs man they must have lead in them sorry may be 30 ton but not 75 sorry any chance of asking the log company how many ton there is on the truck be interesting the exact tonnage as it is a or some loader good video thnks
1.20 looks like a vampire going in for the kill, i am actually kinda confused, if the front support for the logs turn with the head of the truck, how does it go around corners without crushing the logs? :- /
I too agree this does not look like 75 tons. We use a machine like this one to move steel slabs. Machine grabs onto the slab with a magnet. Loader looks so unwieldy.
Da*n, that's the slowest unloader I ever saw? Btw, why is it oversized? Looks like it could take twice that load. Are there trucks carrying loads that big?
no, it's not a Western Star. you can clearly see a Kenworth badge on the bonnet. it's a Kenworth C501 tri-drive as far as I know... Cool video by the way:)
Its an old letourneau the mill in dinuba,ca had one in the 70s when i was young. my dad owned a 68 mack and my grand dad drove it. they hauled logs to dinuba alot back then.
@blackelk7373 Well its pretty diffrent on all the diggers 4 exampel up to about 45 tons all have the rotary tilt its pretty tricky to drive but it makes the maching extremly agil . And on the wheel loaders all have inter changebal buckets so u can put forks on and stuff like thath and on the sawmills there is shortlog handling and its pretty diffrent to =). I prefer the ljungby wheel loaders they are whath i think the best on the market but its just my opinion =) . Excavators i drive komatsu
@HelloRenauldo Sorry about that comment, i just flew off the handle a bit too much. U caught me and my lack of experience with operating these specific machines. When i was talking about the part with what making the machine had to do with the video, i was assuming that the other people commenting on here would think that as machines get bigger, that automatically means they get faster too. I also thought that with such a big machine lifting such a heavy load, it wouldn't be trying to set the
@blackelk7373 Oh surley is i have been driving excavetors and wheel loaders for quite som time now and the rush quiets down pretty fast . But its really intresting to se the difrence betwen the countrys i know its diffrent types of logs and diffrent types of quality but still its pretty amazing would love to take a trip to the us some time to watch it in rela life
@blackelk7373 Ohh im not one to argue its just the first glans of the machine im swedish and we have short logg handling so i dont know diddely squat about american log handling . But i have to save thath thath is one ipresiv peace of equipment . I would love to trie and drive som time really impressive =) Pardon my bad spelling =)
This is taken in new zealand as a matter of fact to be precise it was taken at the webb log yard in kaingaroa where all the long stem trucks( like the won you see) get's unloaded by the way that wagner would be getting long in the tooth it was there when i was working in the bush carting log's for boogle's 10 years ago far out..... lol
Hey ghostmonkeyrape Logging is where you cut down trees and harvest them for lumber. How old are you? Logging has been around a long time. Just watch a show on History channel called Ax Men. You will get a better idea
Amazing looking log-grappling tractor & 4 axled tractor-truck,never seen anything like these 2 b4,LeTourneau & Mack respectivly didja say?Truly like some Transformers movie vehicle.The LTn tractor certainly as U said was from the 70s indeed,the engine of that yester era seemed so under-powered or under-capacity inside suc a behemoth,whining,straining & making too slow progress forward.Guess the operator has had to have lots of patience w/ it inching along.
that thing is pretty slow the mill our wood go's to has a few of these all differnt styles they baught them 30 years ago but they move alot quiker than this one maybe just operater diffence
some one obviously thought one day "fuck unloading them 1 by 1, unload them all and save time!" and then he fucked up the design with making that machnes turning circle the worst in the world!
What are you talking about??? 4 minutes can not be slow!!! And maybe those trees, are hundred year secwoyas or how they there are... my english isn't well... and there wheight is... ogogo...!!
lol that truck had a small sign saying "Oversized" Trucks here have HUGE signs that say "OVERSIZED LOAD!" And they're carrying some bulldozer or soemthing. yet that truck looks so unstable...
hasnt anyone noticed it would have been a hell of alot easier if the truck parked in front of the loader instead of the loader moving to the truck lol, damn i never seen such a big whatever its called =/
I don't want to be childish or anything, but I'm pretty sure the cameraman does a small fart at 1.05, which kinda ruins the whole experience for me... Does anyone else hear it?
machines like this one has work and traveling gears, obviously he is using work gear, where all power goes to lifting load....you can hear that power of enegine
you americans are still slow... in the forest you need a tractor too unload you and you can only take one pile and at the mills everything just happens sooo slow
It is slow because the operator is not experienced. second the trucker should have backed in and drove straight out and not lift the load so high. I used to operate one of those Raygos at the railway on containers and it was not slow if you knew how to operate it.
Drive in head first loaded get unload reverse out less stress on the gear mate. Backing one of those units loaded isn't an option and the operator on the Wagner is slow but it is lifting 100tonnes and the ground surfacd is dirt so slow and steady.
They are Pretty stupid! The worst part about Living in Canada is hearing about the constant gun related shootings and what cities are bankrupt today in the U.S. it gets boring really fast!
@MotoScootMech What does this video have to do with making the machine? Its a Wagner L90. I work at the local paper mill here where I live and there are 2 of these machines and 2 high lift stackers. The guy here has the throttle at WOT and is babying the machine. So yes he is definitely slow. Our operators here would have gone through 3 or 4 trucks by now. But in his defense, he may be new to the machine. But either way, that machine moves a lot faster than he is making it.
@Kakihara1979 I would love to go operate equipment somewhere else. Ive always read about Sweden and Denmark. History of Vikings hunting walrus like they do here in Alaska. What kind of loaders and excavators have you operated? For dirt work we mostly use Cat, Volvo, John Deere, New Holland and Kamatsu.
