Unlocking the Mystery: Why the HF Bands Are DEAD

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HF radio was completely silenced over the past weekend. We get to the bottom of what caused it, but the benefits it can provide to VHF ham radio operators.
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3:43 The Carrington Event
4:34 How to tell when HF is going to be good
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@JohnHill-qo3hb Месяц назад

I have several comments: 1. Excellent explanation, I could never get to grips with the solar physics, you made it so simple, will view this video a few times till it sinks in. 2. Your high school science teacher would be proud of you. 3. I didn't know that Daleks could get an amateur radio license!

@Macjohn1419 Месяц назад

Aurora activity is a bonus for 6 meters. You can bounce signals off of the aurora and contact stations. A 4-element beam is ideal to get great DX. I’ve been doing it for years.

@oldfartonabmx2122 Месяц назад

And yes, heard a few fellow farmers complaining their GPS systems were playing up!

@johndavidson1010 Месяц назад

Thanks for this informative information. Yesterday I experienced a strange happening, 20 and 40 meter bands allowed me to make contacts as close as 50 miles! Normal distant contacts were not possible. Other Hams were commenting on ability to make close contacts as well.

@DrWorth-ez5es Месяц назад

Great discussion Hayden! At ~2:36, you mention that HF transmissions can get absorbed by the ionosphere during a geomagnetic storm, so they won't get refracted and therefore no skywave. There's another effect as well as described in the Wikipedia 'Ionosphere' page under the 'Storms' heading. 'During a geomagnetic storm the F₂ layer will become unstable, fragment, and may even disappear completely'. No F2 layer at all is certainly going to make the HF bands go quiet!

@HamRadioDX Месяц назад

Yes very good point! Space weather is very interesting!

@kennethausten 3 дня назад

Many newly licensed hams seem to think it's lack of users. Cannot understand why they are not being heard. They got use to vhf uhf fm with Repeaters and some with dmr and dstar . Now HF is a completely different ball game. Many gone back to vhf.. many like me started on HF. HF was ham radio for us oldies. We learnt quickly about propagation. It will eventually get back to normal.

@mikeZL3XD7029 Месяц назад

Hayden, I remember this very same thing happened during the sun spot cycle back in 1989. At it's peak, the HF and shortwave bands were damn near un-usable, but it got better on the down slope part of the cycle and returned to normality in 1996. Interesting things solar cycles.

@HamRadioDX Месяц назад

Hopefully we get some good conditions soon!

@Jeff-sp7bg 18 дней назад

In 1990-92 i could talk dx 24/7. Was booming day and. Night

@Bill_KL7TC Месяц назад

Cool seeing the lights from Australia. Being in Alaska, we see them all the time, but of course this time we had too much daylights and clouds to see them in Alaska. Normal solar flares usually create so much absorption here in KL7, we can't work anyone, much less hear anyone.

@JoeBorrello 3 дня назад

About 20 years ago I had a sked with K8WPI (now SK) on 40 meter CW, him in Long Island NY and me in Kalamazoo MI (about 1100 km). It was during a geomagnetic storm, and the HF bands were absolutely dead. Since it was a sked I tried anyway. His signal was extremely weak, barely budged the S-meter, but was easily readable because of the quiet bands. RST 519.

@johnwest7993 6 дней назад

I recall during the last solar cycle maximum when I was working all over the place with 20 Watts, and the repeaters around the state were keying up one another in weird feedback oscillations to the point where control ops were having to shut them down altogether. The town cop stopped by my shack and asked me why his police-radio communications were so bad when he'd heard that radio communications were great due to solar activity.

@erikk77 Месяц назад

During the height of the storms I was not able to hear my state police on 155.58. The repeater is about 40 miles to the north. 18 hours later no problem.

@DK5ONV Месяц назад

I am going to take a Break from HAM Radio for like a Week or so. The Bands going to be super crappy...mostly dead as a Horse. Sporadically there is going to be some openings but not lasting long time. It repeatedly happens on every Year in the month of May.

@jstoltenburg Месяц назад

6 meters was open for voice and CW in pockets, but it was strange though - everyone sounded like they were the Borg from Star Trek. I was tempted to call CQ saying that I was Borg!

@dannynova3412 Месяц назад

40 meter in east side USA is great. Everything else here mud

@chronicandironic8701 Месяц назад

Yeah i noticed the same

@jeffwright6685 Месяц назад

You have 1 more year 2025 is the height

@jstoltenburg Месяц назад

@@jeffwright6685 and then it goes south for how long?

@timmotel5804 20 дней назад

Good Day and Thank You. Very educational and interesting for this HAM "listener". Best Regards

@HamRadioDX 20 дней назад

Glad you enjoyed it!

@jamesalles139 Месяц назад

thanks for the clarity, and kudos for the reference to Dr. Skov

@HamRadioDX Месяц назад

Tamitha is the go-to for this kind of stuff!

@youtubeaccount931 Месяц назад

It was weird, there was nothing, then I had one QSO to New Zealand (I'm in California) with 50 watts and a dipole, and then nothing the rest of the time. I'm glad I got on the air, I hadn't played radio in weeks and the aurora got me motivated.

@mattstosh6960 Месяц назад

Welcome to my almost daily issue here in Alaska. Another reason why logging Alaska is difficult for DX certificates. The Aurora Steel pot. Good video and thank you.

@HamRadioDX Месяц назад

Thanks! I never thought about it that way - how often do you get disruptions?

@vk4uh96 Месяц назад

Interestingly 10m (28MHz) did not receive the memo! Despite the complete dropout of most HF bands, 10m has been wide open (from VK4 at least) to all continents. Who knows how or why this single band was spared - actually enhanced to this amazing level. VK4UH

@paulsengupta971 28 дней назад

I would guess as the MUF goes up, the LUF (I just made that up!) goes up as well, so where we can't normally use 80m in the day, I'm guessing we couldn't use up to 15m or 12m, but could use 10m. There's also Sporadic E, there was a lot of that about as well.

@dang48 28 дней назад

Pretty wild for sure. Last week we went out to get some pictures of the Northern Lights (I'm in Canada), and had to use our GPS. Took longer than usual for our GPS to acquire a satellite so there was the effect mentioned. Watching the lights was amazing.

@HamRadioDX 28 дней назад

Very cool indeed!

@DonzLockz Месяц назад

Great info Hayden. Maybe it's a good time for DMR on hotspots.

@__logan__duvalier__ Месяц назад

There were strong aurora back reflections on 11m CB SSB all over the UK and europe last week ! these phone signals sounded like daleks

@HamRadioDX Месяц назад

Yep that's exactly the unique sound!

@NukaVaultReadiness Месяц назад

Great stuff, and thank you for the deeper explanation!

@HamRadioDX Месяц назад

No worries hope it was helpful!

@vu3mes Месяц назад

Complete washout on Saturday and Sunday and slightly picking up today..even the regularly heard hf nets were not copy able here in Chennai.

@TheRFResistance Месяц назад

Nice video mate!

@dustyroaddestinations Месяц назад

thanks so much for this video - I'm basically VERY new at HF and even though there were questions on the test about this it has been difficult to udnerstand and put into practice. I did a POTA last weekend and it took 4 hours to be able to activate the park I was in and that included FT8 and SSB - I wanted to do it totally with SSD but I just couldn't hit 10 but at least with the handful of FT8 I was able to do it. It was brutal to say the least...

@HamRadioDX Месяц назад

No problems glad it helped! Good luck on your next activation

@dustyroaddestinations 27 дней назад

@@HamRadioDX This weekend was pretty rough too - might have been my antenna...

@HamRadioPrep Месяц назад

Great info! 👌🏼

@HamRadioDX Месяц назад

Thanks! Hope you enjoy Hamvention 👍

@chairforce0928 Месяц назад

I was able to chat with a guy that's 90 miles away off of a repeater that's WAY out of line of sight (other side of a large formation of rolling hills) for my handheld GMRS.

@basspig Месяц назад

Just for curiosity sake, I put a digital volt meter across my vertical and horizontal antennas and I noticed that my horizontal antenna accumulated the most DC voltage reaching a high of 87 millivolts. Still a minuscule amount of energy induced into a 70 ft long piece of wire.

@k6usy Месяц назад

Worked VK9DX on 6m FT8 with 100w and a HO loop from central CA. The bands are not completely dead you just have to hunt harder for DX.

@roberthopkins8089 Месяц назад

Still working some dx on 11 mtrs from the uk tonight... All short stuff... North Italy Poland and Germany... Great for groundwave as well being quiet.

@kurtzFPV Месяц назад

I did pick up a new country on ft8 40m yesterday, though it hasn't been confirmed yet.

@boydsharp Месяц назад

I was able to make three 6M contacts on FT8 over the weekend. Saw on the spotter that some areas of the USA was open down your way.

@HamRadioDX Месяц назад

Yeah it was open the following morning here (well not here but in Northern VK)

@jplewis01 Месяц назад

Pay attention to the BZ index as well. I negative value can indicate a stronger negative interaction of the Storm with our magnetosphere...

@jimgraham6722 Месяц назад

FT8 and JS8 40 and 17 still going somewhat though lower levvel absorption playing havoc. As the lower layers recombine more quickly they should unmask still highly refractive higher layers leading to some good DX off the back of this.

@Drew_TheRoadLessTraveled Месяц назад

I got a new DJI drone the other day.... It is grounded because of solar flares. GPS and 2.4Gh spectrum hopping is affected. Outback South Australia is just one big magnetic solar collector.

@AdamDeal-KF0PRI Месяц назад

It's quite amazing how the sun can be our friend one minute and then next our arch enemy!

@user-ef3nu1eh7z Месяц назад

Here in WI USA our radio been dead starting day before eclipse in april bheavy( 10+s units) static day before and of eclipse then reduced for week and dad since now over month hope turnaround coming

@mayomayo7318 14 дней назад

Everyone needs to call, not just looking on the clusters....

@dxer22000 Месяц назад

some of the Australian MW frequencies also crashed, with no propagation

@ethzero Месяц назад

Of course i would test my new SDRplay dx the first night of the aurora in the UK and wondered if i had a faultly unit! Quickly discovered that this was the same for my RTL-SDR then shortly after @TechMinds let me know of this unprecedented phenomenon 😂

@321CatboxWA Месяц назад

Had great backscatter on 11 during storm and arora peak.

@1958johndeere620 18 дней назад

That audio clip just sounded like a normal QSO between 2 heavy smokers.

@HamRadioDX 18 дней назад

LOL

@yclept9 18 дней назад

It all happens every day, just over a smaller frequency spread. On 40m, it's open worldwide in darkness, and goes local during the daytime. Why? The ionosphere is always ionized enough to reflect 40m signals back to earth. The radio wave excites an ionized +- pair, which moves and then reradiates the signal a quarter cycle later, inducing a height-dependent delay that does the reflection. In the daytime, the sun ionizes down to lower altitudes, where the mean free path is smaller, and the +- pair collides with something before it reradiates, and the radio wave is turned to heat (absorbed). Higher frequencies survive shorter mean free paths, and even higher frequencies don't reflect at all. So it's always 3 regiemes: absorbed (low freq), reflected (medium freq), unreflected (high freq). Exceptional solar activity ionizes deeper into the atmosphere, turning everything into daytime low frequency. Normal solar produces reflections at 20m and absorption at 40m daytime, and reflections at 40m and no reflection on 20m nighttime.

@remaguire 25 дней назад

Heck, I thought you were gonna say it was FT8!

@shanerorko8076 Месяц назад

I checked 7mhz on Saturday, it was pumping better than usual in my opinion, I don't know why people were saying HF was dead? Maybe the DX was down but NVIS was fine.

@moozoowizard Месяц назад

Carrington Event was estimated to be an X45 flare. The largest of the recent bunch was X5 something. Its a log scale. X45 is 10^40 times stronger than an X5 !!!!

@HamRadioDX Месяц назад

Imagine if that hit us - ouch!

@oldfartonabmx2122 Месяц назад

Was 6 meters any good? (don't have a 6M antenna yet so idk ?!)

@HamRadioDX Месяц назад

Yes 6m was good via auroral propagation. Yagi or directional antenna is really needed, pointing south

@gavindouglas5581 Месяц назад

Zl1gam bad on 80 and 40 metre band

@sogent56 Месяц назад

Nice job.

@eddiepiecart6030 13 дней назад

An observation. You do all the exams, get the best radio and antenna system and when the sun decides, no communications EXCEPT for good old 27mhz CB No matter what there is always some nong out there on 11 metre band. ALWAYS!!

@stevefox3763 Месяц назад

There have been mass ejections bigger than than Carrington event but earth dodged them as they were on the other side of the sun.

@user-wo6qn3vf9n День назад

Are they? I get quite a lot on the SW bands.

@pixeluser175 Месяц назад

VHF was great, though...

@VK4EA Месяц назад

Sunday 6m and 10m FT8 was pumping - go figure?

@kafostad Месяц назад

Was plenty of Aurora and sporadic E aurora on 10m here in norway. No problem to work FT8 via aurora ES. Audio is clear

@HamRadioDX Месяц назад

I noticed between VK4 and USA was good. VK4CZ was working them well

@MrDschubba Месяц назад

Sounds like Steve and David need to ease up on the ciggies. Interesting stuff thanks

@drsysop Месяц назад

AM Radio. Shortwave Radio. CB Radio including the Free Band has been awful last few days here in North America & this storm will continue.

@Jeff-sp7bg 18 дней назад

It has been good for the past week now irs back to nothing. Ive been on 38 lsb call freq

@centurionC100 2 дня назад

Because there are few licensed HF operators and 20% listed are dead, 60% don't use their HF license, and the last 20% are only on occasionally. Ham radio is not growing, it is not dead, however it is stagnate and has been for decades. Band conditions have nothing to do with it.

@evischlee5578 23 дня назад

Das Problem ist das man nirgends mehr eine Antenne aufbauen darf.

@MrFreddarama 6 дней назад

Dead? The bands seemed active where im at on 20 thru 6 meters.

@lomgshorts3 Месяц назад

There is no mystery here at all !! This has happened many times in the past, just as severe. Hams have come to expect this every Solar Max.

@stargazer7644 Месяц назад

High solar cycles help conditions. X rays from solar flares do not. A little bit of enhancement to the ionosphere is good. Storms are bad.

@skyking6989 Месяц назад

It's ATROCIOUS. I can't even get out on ft8.

@Jeff-sp7bg 18 дней назад

Ft 8 doesnt even count

@skyking6989 18 дней назад

@Jeff-sp7bg oh boy here we go..🙄

@TaylorHamRadio Месяц назад

They aren't dead, they're just taking a nap. A really long nap....

@DellFargus Месяц назад

Aurora Borealis!? At this time of year, at this time of day, in this part of the country, localized entirely within your kitchen!?

@HamRadioDX Месяц назад

Yes champ

@DellFargus Месяц назад

@@HamRadioDX May I see it?

@HamRadioDX Месяц назад

@@DellFargus All gone

@eyeinidas Месяц назад

Like giant solar pimples popping and throwing junk at us.

@briankleinschmidt3664 Месяц назад

As opposed to low frequency? No. FM is much better. Most of your radio stations are on high frequency wavelengths because AM suffers so much interference.

@Jeff-sp7bg 18 дней назад

Ive seen the sfi at 220+ and the k was 1 k 1. I heard nothing. Zilch. In my opinion those numbers are worthless

@regularguy519 Месяц назад

Yep. It was dead! Yay first!

@MidlifeRenaissanceMan Месяц назад

Dead on arrival :-)

@HamRadioDX Месяц назад

1st!

@MidlifeRenaissanceMan Месяц назад

🏆

@tmastersat 7 дней назад

Not if your on gmrs.....

@MightySpaceman Месяц назад

5:55 I think he needs a throat lozenge

@cariboooutlaw4852 Месяц назад

That's Backscatter skip.

@MightySpaceman Месяц назад

@@cariboooutlaw4852 yeah it was a joke

@paulsengupta971 28 дней назад

Check out "Aurora Propagation on 6 Meters Keith’s Ham Radio World" - he has a video of turning his antenna from a direct contact to auroral and back again.

@donausmus4281 Месяц назад

The record auroras are an indication of our own weakening magnetic field and our own inevitable pole shift by 2050.

@OldCanadianguy953 2 дня назад

There’s no mystery. Hams have become lazy, they’re all on FT8 instead of picking up a mic or a key. 73s.

@dronenuts1156 Месяц назад

Why is it nobody is talking about haarp? Its even on their website that the experiments can cause auroras, they transmit between 2.8 - 10mhz and amateurs are encouraged to follow along and send signal reports. The experiments were to run 8-10th may coinciding with the auroras. Nobody in amateur radio is talking about this and you all seem to think its a natural phenomenon

@paulsengupta971 28 дней назад

Did you not see the CME from the sun? People saw it happen and gave a warning it was going to hit earth.