Unlocking the Old Testament Part 5 - Genesis 4 

Agreed.

Hi These videos ( 98 in total) were recorded at High Leigh Conference Centre on various weekends between 1995 and 1996

Pets are not humans, nor made in Gods image, neither innocent or guilty, just animals. It’s people who worship them, or try to make them human.

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Beautiful testimony

Very true.learning from India

@@sunthoms I turned to God in my 50s and discovered these vids in my 60s. I was sad to learn David Pawson had died years before. I agree, he is an outstanding presenter.

why is your heart burnin for china people? Do you life in china?

Watch Ps Chris oyakhilome too.

HI Adele Just for you to be aware this series has been translated with Mandarin audio and Mandarin Subtitles. May our Lord bless you

@@DavidPawsonMinistry yes I know it , I have studied mandarin version in high school and later I learned English and French during the college. Love and Thanks !

Me too!

I can’t but assume God is pleased with David’s work. Hope to thank him in person when I go to Heaven aswell.

I'm sorry for saying that, but he is in heaven.

@@Kingside88 😮😮😮 I didn't know that.

It is certainly an immense responsibility, but Mr Pawson has done an excellent job here. No one else has made such a comprehensive series of videos about the whole Bible like this, which means Mr Pawson's videos are the best by default. These videos may not have "all the answers" but they will certainly provide many people with a good basic introduction to the Bible and be inspired to read it for themselves, which most Christians don't. Above all else, Mr Pawson is clearly a spiritual man, led by the Spirit. We ought to trust that God knows what He is doing when HE commissions projects like these.

Acts 17.11 King James Bible These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so...

Don’t misquote him bro. He clearly says “ I’m trying to give you the keys for you to unlock it for yourself “

Hi the translation was done by Good TV in Your home Country

Wow brilliant explanation.So true 🙏🏾

Brother, Hebrews 11 tells more about Abel's offering. He did it with faith. The Bible says God did not have respect to Cain more than to his offering.So assuming that Cain's offering was sub standard is not all that correct it was just not of God's standard.

In addition he said something I never seen in the Bible … Cain the father of music, metallurgical and polygamy… where did he came up to this conclusion

according to one death penalty attorney....half of the individuals, on death row, are there, for lack of proper legal support....

Music, metallurgy, and urbanization began before the flood; with those things, David is referring to physical ancestry. For the things after the flood (modern urbanization, modern discoveries, modern music), David is referring to a spiritual ancestry, not physical. That's why David said you choose which line you are a part of (Cain's or Seth's).

I found a clue in the video, between 1993-96

Then why didnt God create 2 wives for Adam? Why in the new testament does it call men to be the husband of one wife and vise versa?

This is not something easy to understand but we need to be careful not to blame God for sin. One day all will become clear and we may be surprised God created . God granted all beings - both Heavenly Beings and Human Beings choice - the choice to choose HIM and His ways or reject God and HIS ways ... without choice we would be robots programmed to do things Gods way and only God way, a dictatorship. As a Parent, when your children are very young you can control what your children do - but there comes a point in time when you have to let go .....and they make their own decisions and choices ........... whilst becoming independent, some choose to stay close to you for the rest of their lives or..... others leave you ....thats a choice they make. God created Adam and Even and he gave very clear guidance - what to do and what not to do .....but thorough temptation, the Evil one persuaded Eve that it would be OK, to disobey GOD ...and .......it was not OK Did GOD know this 'would' happen? He must have known what 'could' happen if Adam and Eve chose to disobey Him and that was a risk He took in giving them free will but did he know 'what' they would decide ? Some say He must have known they would choose evil because He knows all things ........ I am convinced God knows all of the possible outcomes - permutations etc of teh choices we make in life - nothing surprises him but Im not convinced God knows what you will choose until you make your choice He wants to spent eternity with everyone but not everyone will choose His ways and choose the narrow road that leads to eternal life I believe He created the the Universe and everything in it. He did this and created us as we are with the freedom to make choices because He wished to spend eternity ''with those who choose him'' .......He created us with the freedom to make a choice - to accept or reject Him The key to this is in Gen 22 when God puts Abraham to the test - Did God know Abraham would be prepared to sacrifice Isaac? Gen 22 implies God puts Abraham to the test to see what he would do . Why did God do this .....Did God not already know the answers? ..vs 12 states clearly ''Now I know that you fear GOD '' David teaches God tested Abraham to see what he would do, did God not know-all things ? This verse implies that it was not until God put Abraham to the test did God'' know that Abraham feared God''............ and had total faith in GOD that He would ''provide'' It remains a mystery. What is certain is that everyone who choose ''to believe in Jesus'' will be saved and have eternal life .....what is also certain is that not everyone will choose Jesus

God also knew He would have to suffer on the cross for us to bring us back to union with Him. He created us in an act of Great Love, even knowing all things.

HI please be careful David read many many books and said "its good to read these books for historic purposes" but be cautions - they are not considered "scripture" and its strong to say we have been robbed - these books are widely available and you are free to read them There were many books written, dating back thousands of years that are not included in the Jewish nor Christian Bible because they are not considered Scripture ie "the word of God". but more the word of man - The Book of Enoch is not believed to have been written by Enoch . The oldest surviving copies are quite recent but Jesus does quote the book of Enoch. The accuracy of the oldest copies that have survived is unknown - The New Testament is a collection of works that originate from the Disciples or the Apostle Paul - The Apocrypha is included in the Catholic Bible but not in the Jewish Bible nor any other translation. Every book included in the Old Testament/Jewish Bible is considered to be what God said and quotes " God said ......" with few exceptions The Apocryphal books were written in the 400 year period between the end of the Old Testament and the beginning of the New Testament where "God was silent" .......so are also not considered the word of God and as such are not works of scripture

@David Pawson Español - Oficial - Thank you for the admonition. David's remarks that it was the fallen angels that taught man occult knowledge is directly from the Book of Enoch. There are other points and elaborations in this particular talk that originated with a/the books that were left out of the Bible we have today. Having been a former occultist, I am VERY careful about who and what I listen to and read. So, yes, I read these books with caution and prayer. David is one of the only well known Teachers I listen to. I do believe he does take a few liberties I am not necessarily in agreement with - yet not ones to cause one to lose their salvation, I believe.

This is very interesting. Jesus is the Last and Final blood sacrifice. Maybe a blood sacrifice is more painful for anyone than a non-blood sacrifice. No matter how the heart felt, it is still more of a painful thing to do. There must be suffering and pain in any sacrifice. Do you agree?

The Bible clearly states that God preferred Abel's blood sacrifice. Why try to argue with this? We know God prefers a blood sacrifice as it became the official means of atonement. I'm not sure I'd agree with Mr Pawson that Abel knew what God wanted. He probably just got lucky, because God's favour was upon him.

I think it is more about "a life for a life"?

How did Noah what a clean and unclean animal? That was not codified until Moses right? Abraham made a drink offer to God. .how is that possible before Moses. John MacArthur says and many other great bible teachers say, it's not just what is written but what can be inferred. Adam knew about animal sacrifices to the Lord...or how else did Cain and Abel even know how to even make a sacrifice in the first place. It's the same error that Arrons sons made when they brought strange fire to the altar and God destroyed then. Cain was trying to worship God in his own way and not the way God told Adam. That is God had no respect and told him sin is at his door, disobedience...

I thought it was just to further separate us from supernatural presence.

Maybe the designer never admitted that publicly. Are you able to check the measurements and see if they bear any relation to those of the Ark? Are they in the same ratio L x W x H to scale ?

Those are the Good Angels,..chuck missler has great videos on this and goes into great detail about them. Check them out

Quoting Jesus words does not contradict what was said in Genesis 6. Presuppositions of a bigger picture off of what he said Is what gets people off track here. Jesus was very specific. Jesus contradicted absolutely nothing in the old testament. Everything he taught on was either quoted from the old or giving commentary on the old testament and he expected his listerners/readers to know exactly what he was saying outside of his parables and he left those for them to figure out for themselves, again based off the old testament. To wrap up, the Hebrew word translated sons of God is used 100pct specifically for angelic beings. There are absolutely ZERO exceptions to this and to interpret it any other way into English understanding is false teaching with flawed hermeneutics. Scripture interprets itself for you through patterns, whether it's words, types in stories, numbers, etc. God holds consistency. And he consistently refers to sons of God as beings created directly by him, not humans

@jared Brandt, the two lines do run even today but they are not only genetic, they are spiritual lines. We each have the ability and freewill to choose whose line we want to belong to. By salvation, we are integrated into the Seed of Abraham, children of God, Abel's line.

​@Jayashree I'm fairly new but have also heard sermons that leaned toward the belief that Eve had other children especially girls etc. not mentioned in the Bible.

It says higher up in one of the replies from the channel. From memory 1996-97. But please check.

Firstly let’s be clear that is not what David Pawson teaches and I kindly ask you not to post comments or propositions on this channel from anyone else’s ideas Jesus is coming back to judge humanity and creation because of the fall - not because of these angelic unions - who is implying they are still living today ?!?!? If you have not got this from this video please do not use this site to hypothesise ! Salvation is a personal message for us - human beings - the New Testament is clear the punishment for Satan and his angelic helpers is the eternal fire - there is no salvation for Satan nor his angelic helpers All have sinned The consequence of sin is death - that is everyone However for those who carry on believing in Jesus and - as Jesus said - perseveres to the end - shall be saved What does it mean to believe in Jesus ? - Repent and be baptised for the forgiveness of sin - obey His commandments …… and - go sin no more The Gospel message of salvation is simple and…… let God deal with and the sons of god ……it’s not our concern

I think i read once that Genesis is in the oldest Chinese writings. Can it be so?

i also agree with you, beside that, what we have now in PRC ( is simplified form which is latest form of chinese writing ) and what we have in Taiwan is also later form of chinese writing. If we are going to proof this, we have to go back to the more ancient form of chinese writing let's say in the early qin period ( but i think it does not reliable either ) may be must go back to the "Jia Gu Wen" the ancient writing found written in turtle shell

there is a book that may be of interest, to you....it is called The Gospel, in the Chinese Language....saying by looking at the symbols, one could learn the Gospel....for example evil is said to be two people, under a tree....you would have a much easier time to see if this were true, or not.....

so sorry it is The Gospel, Hidden in Chinese Characters....Timothy D Boyle

Sorry, found it. "Why, then, did God put such a tree within their reach? It was his way of saying that he retained moral authority over them. They were not to decide for themselves what was right and wrong, but had to trust God to tell them. Furthermore, he was underlining the fact that they were not landlords on earth, but tenants. The landlord retains the right to set the rules."

HI This is Steve on behalf of David - David does not profess to have all the answers but he does have a rather large file called '''Questions to ask when I get there''.

David often makes statements to challenge and to direct us to read the Bible to prove him right or wrong So what does the Bible say here? What are we told in the book of Genesis ? Adam had but one wife Eve ? Let’s look at just chapter 5 where we learn Cain - built a city did he not ? So he was a builder? - builders need to work with stone and metal and wood? Cain would have to design a city would he not ? So he was a designer - artist ? Cains sons had more than one wife ? So Cain was the father of polygamy was he not Yes there is some interpretation here but I assure you if David makes a statement he can back it up with scripture

Its a very good question and why did he try to blame Eve

@@DavidPawsonMinistry Hi, I have a question. Perhaps you can help me: In min. 26:37 David translated "Methuselah" with „When he dies, it will happen“. Do you know the source of this translation? When I go to Bible Hub in Genesis 5:21 I don't find that. There this name (Strong H 4968) means "man of the dart". But "When he dies, it will happen" fits better …

Yes, that point seems controversial for me too, but the reason behind it is different. It is true that God protected Cain, but when He gave the Law to Moses, he instructed him that every murderer have to die (Lv 24,7) Now I do not know surely why God treated with Cain differently, but maybe to prevent a neverending bloodshed (Abel's relative would kill Cain, Cains relative would kill Cains murderer, a relative of cains murderer would kill the one who killed him and so on). But the biggest problem with death sentence is that in case of justice error, there is no way how to make that injustice right, except of finding the real murderer and punish him.

Not much differences between the old and new characters.

My Bible is clear - Adam was certainly with her when she ate the fruit firstly remember the chapters and verses were added later Gen 3:6 states “When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it.” ‭‭Genesis‬ ‭3‬:‭6‬ ‭NIV‬‬ bible.com/bible/111/gen.3.6.NIV

Adam was with her and he did nothing to stop her ……knowing what God had said to him

@@DavidPawsonMinistry Eve told The serpent herself that God had commanded her not to eat of it. Stop making her a victim.

@@jamesduck926 you are missing the point Gen3:6 puts the blame on Adam! He was the one God told - he was there when Eve ate the fruit and also himself ate the fruit - he did nothing to stop her so he has to be the one accountable - please be accurate to what the Bible says

@@DavidPawsonMinistry Eve knew first hand not to eat of tree. She said as much. What version do you read.

Remember Satan and 1 third of Angel's rebelled, that verse is about the obiediant Angel's in heaven not the fallen ones

Its an error...Angels can never have sex with human kind

@@samanthazungu9222 Wrong, Gods Holy Angel's cannot. But the fallen ones can

Gods Holy Angel's no, but fallen Angels yes.

@Land of OZ ... thanks for your correction...but if I read Genesis 6...there is no mention of Angels there..but sons of man (Cain) and sons of Seth which were still in contact with God....

Lets start with all have sinned and fallen short - and the consequence of sin is death - wither we have to pay the price or as in the case with a scape goat someone else pays the price for you - Jesus paid the price of all of our sin Cain was morally bent and his hands were stained by the death of his brother - and as a role model his dependents followed, and his blood line was tainted The sins of our forefathers has consequence through the generations - by the time we get to Genesis 6 The Lord "observed human wickedness" and was sorry he had ever created all mankind. So it's not not just Cain but all humans , God judgement was initially "to destroy all living things" Gen 6:7 .....But "one" man Noah found favour with God ...and all mankind except Noah and his family are wiped out by the flood .....Noah was a descendent of Abel but Abels bloodline except Noah were also judged and wiped out

@@DavidPawsonMinistry Thank you for your answer. We can choose Christ. LUKE 5: 31 And Jesus answering said unto them, They that are whole need not a physician; but they that are sick. 32 I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

Hi Please check this out Genesis 4: [17] Cain lay with his wife, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Enoch. Cain was then building a city, and he named it after his son Enoch. [18] To Enoch was born Irad, and Irad was the father of Mehujael, and Mehujael was the father of Methushael, and Methushael was the father of Lamech. [19] Lamech married two women, one named Adah and the other Zillah. [20] Adah gave birth to Jabal; he was the father of those who live in tents and raise livestock. [21] His brother's name was Jubal; he was the father of all who play the harp and flute. [22] Zillah also had a son, Tubal-Cain, who forged all kinds of tools out of bronze and iron. Tubal-Cain's sister was Naamah. Many teachers says that through the Cains line we have the - building of cities, - musical instruments and - bronze and iron manufacturing.

David Pawson - Official Got it, Thank you!

@@rossmelanson6999 ......We no long have David to ask so! ...... some questions are quite challenging ;-)

David Pawson - Official why..

@@rossmelanson6999 - You may not be aware but David ascended to be with the Lord a couple of weeks ago ?

You may indeed have half truths in the bible in different translations. However God said he would preserve his word. I personally, after having viewed many English translations, think this is exclusive to meaning the original languages. You have two sources on the old testament and they do hold surface differences. However i think they're easily reconsilable and misunderstood. The Hebrew masoretic and Greek Septuagint are the main sources. The Aramaic targum and peshitta close. The targums may very well be just as valid. There are definitely errors in English though and that goes for EVERY popular version I've seen. I would say 100pct negligible to salvation but undoubtedly hindering full understandings

@@futuregloryagchurch8469 in what sense are you negating this?

GOD didn’t regret making man as suggested ? Permit me to quote Gods word Genesis 6:5 to 8 NIV “The Lord saw how great the wickedness of the human race had become on the earth, and that every inclination of the thoughts of the human heart was only evil all the time.” ‭ “The Lord regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled.” “So the Lord said, “I will wipe from the face of the earth the human race I have created-and with them the animals, the birds and the creatures that move along the ground-for I regret that I have made them.” “But Noah found favor in the eyes of the Lord.” …. “For I regret that I have made them “

@@DavidPawsonMinistry Correct! However it wasn't a mistake unless you are suggesting God made a mistake and that the Lamb slain from the foundation was in vain? I provided scripture context. Using a translation not KJV doesn't give you free rain to add context not there. [Genesis 6:6 KJV] {6} And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart. It repented the Lord. It does not say he regretted. Even using your translation, it must be applied in context which requires searching deeper. God is justified in sin entering the world as he provided the lamb slain for remittance of the same sin. And where did you get the added context after vs. 8 "for I regret that I have made them"

@@DavidPawsonMinistry God is also responsible for the establishment of sin in the world. [Romans 5:13 KJV] {13} (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law. He didn't regret. He repented. He also turned away (forsaken) from Sin. My God, my God, why hast though forsaken me. His sacrifice was established before man was ever formed. Just as Christ came into the world knowing he would be slain.

@@DavidPawsonMinistry This is the inherent problem stemming from using inferior translations, then trying to justify it in Hebrew and Greek. You do know that NIV is even missing scripture verses, I hope. Examples: it removes the masculine context from the creation of the land animals in Genesis 1 [Genesis 1:24 KJV] {24} And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so. Please compare this to your NIV Also the text that is completely missing. Just a couple examples. [Luke 9:56 KJV] {56} For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save [them]. And they went to another village. Compare this to your translation please. [Matthew 18:11 KJV] {11} For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost. Missing from your translation.

@@landofthefree2023 I will make just one more comment and very much doubt we can agree on this topic What I can say is Davids position which I also share The meaning of words change over time When one reads the KJV it has to be read with an understanding of 1600 English meaning of words - not with the meaning words have today an most people do not have an understanding of medieval English Many words have changed meaning over time - one has to understand the meaning of the word repent when it was written in the KJV The distinction between regret and repent is made in many modern languages, but the differentiation is not present in older periods. To repent is to regret so deeply as to change the mind or course of conduct in consequence and develop new mental and spiritual habits. Also from c. 1300 in Middle English and after in an impersonal reflexive sense, especially as (it) repenteth (me, him, etc.). And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart. [Genesis vi.6, KJV, 1611] Many words have changed meaning since the 1600 Naughty - in 1600 means someone with nothing - Naught ….. this word then changed meaning and became evil and immortal and today the meaning has evolved further to mean just bad behaviour Divest - in 1600 means undressing …..today it means selling off investments Silly - in 1600 means blessed or worthy, it then became weak or vulnerable, it now means foolish Peculiar - in 1600 means set apart - “Gods peculiar people “….. today means odd or strange So when you read KJV it has to be read from the perspective of the meaning of words in 1600 - not as we read words today If you understand medieval English the KJV is a great translation ……but for the ordinary man, it is very difficult to read and misleading if you read it only with a knowledge using todays definition of words So yes - the meaning of repented as defined in KJV does mean the same as regret today - grieve over one’s past David recommended the 1984 version of the NIV version as the best translation for most people to read today

+ForTheLoveOfChrist Hi! This is what I found regarding your comments. Hope this helps. ;-) #1 Gen 3:6 " When the woman saw that the tree was good for food, that it had a pleasing appearance and that the tree was desirable for making one wise, she took some of its fruit and ate. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her; and he ate." #2. In Genesis 2:17, God gave Adam the "rules" face-to-face and spoke of the forbidden fruit before Eve was created. Presumably, Adam passed the information to Eve.

That verse is about the obiediant Angel's in heaven not the fallen. Sons of God is only used for a direct creation of God. We are not sons of God we are sons of Adam.. Adam and Angel's are sons of God because they are directed created of Him. Daughters of men...offspring of men.. Do not confuse verses about Angel's and the fallen angels..they are separate

Giants is not a direct translation of the word. Nephlim is fallen ones. Look at a chuck missler video..he goes into great detail about this

Who made the giants?? It’s all so confusing

The line of Seth is what's totally inconceivable. Scripture interprets itself and the only time that phrase is used is of ANGELS ONLY. That interpreted itself before Jesus made his statements. Jesus said angels in HEAVEN. This is clue number one. Those in Genesis 6 came DOWN. Peter and Jude say they left their OIKETERION. That's the same word applied to the heavenly bodies believers get after resurrection. So when we put on our immortal clothing, it's the same thing they DISROBED themselves from. I state again Peter and Jude, they were EXTREMELY clear on this issue. Next to understand is if what they did is related to clothing, you'll understand the importance of Adam and Eve being NAKED. They did not have heavenly bodies. There's a comment about getting them out of the garden before partaking of the tree of life as well or they'd be immortal. Eden being blocked by cheribum let you know why these angels couldn't return to their full angelic states. The English word clever for the serpent is the plural form of naked in hebrew. So you know in Hebrew Satan was fallen before Adamand eve. This very truth is the act of how Christ, being pre-existent in the form of Yahweh became man and was able to go back to that status. Reference the high priestly prayer in John 17 where he prays to be restored to the glory he once had, this is to his eternality before incarnation which the fallen angels were not allowed . This is also how Paul said he emptied himself in phillipians 2. These same types of misunderstandings of scripture are how people botch understanding the tri-une nature of god. You have to look at every related scripture to understand the whole when misunderstanding arises. Even using 80pct of what's there leaves you bankrupt, much less riding one verse. Oh and by the way their heights are pretty well accounted for. Height isn't the only thing thougj. We have plenty of 7 to 8 footers in the world. They're all weak though and thin minus a select few. These weren't giants just in bone length, it would be in girth and muscle as well. Goliaths armor was almost 700 pounds. Can you imagine a normal human wearing 200-400pound clothes if you scale that down?

@@uptownlife42 giant is an accurate translation. Fallen ones comes from part of the root of that word.