In pursuit of self-determination, a young woman leaves her ultra orthodox Jewish community in New York City to start a new life in Berlin. But just as she starts to find her own way, the past begins to catch up with her.
To the people saying this is "anti-Jewish": it isn't. If anything, it's anti-fundamentalist. Not all Ashkenazi Jews are Hasids and not all Hasids are Satmars. I don't even think it's anti-Satmar. In fact, the pains that they went through to recreate certain aspects of the culture actually show a deal of respect for that culture. Could it have been more nuanced and less biased? Sure. In the end, it's just one production team's interpretation of one individual's story.
The problem I find is that this is mostly the only sort of Jewish story we see. “Breaking free” of Orthodoxy (and the Hasidics are but only one group) and something that is Holocaust related. It’s tiring. Whilst I liked the show I don’t feel like it showed the beauty of Judaism and the people. It only showed an Israeli woman who mentions Kugel once and is derogatory to Esty.
@@Jacksjarofdirt123 Broad City is a tv show made by two modern Jewish women... there are plenty of shows "about" Jewish people where religion isn't the focus. This one just happens to make it the focus because it relies on it for the story.
@@Jacksjarofdirt123 Yael wasn't derogatory, rather honest, which no doubt burst Esty's bubble,and hadn't been for that waking up, she would endup not getting that scholorship.
The thing I hated about this movie was it got hollywoodised- noone travels overseas and gets insta hot friends and ends up in a music academy straight away. cos most strangers are mean or suspicious of new people. i would rather have watched the true story
@@ash.613 I agree, that´s what most people criticized about the plot, that Berlin is for example is shown too "gentle/friendly" as a big city, that the protagonist gets instantly nice, hot friends....gets finally enrolled at the Academy,... - it´s (a bit) different to the book.....
Yeah its total BS. Its not like they are going to instantly accept from Jewish girl who can't speak German into Berlin and treat her with 100% niceness with admittance to top schools, friends, etc.
The reason they push this is to make it seem like leaving this "ultraOrthodox" community is so fun and great. Yet what is she replacing it with? LGBT? Feminism? Barren Womb? Seems like she is going into a worse situation.
it is great that both esty/ and deborah left when they were young/ because it is harder when you are married many years in this type of loveless marriage to get out.
As a girl that has grown up in that same community and still is a part, I have found this series so heartbreaking to watch. My heart went out for “Esty” what she went through, it is absolutely terrible and no one should have to go through that. But this is her story and not at all everyone’s which it comes across to be. In every community there are these stories and it is so sad and unfortunate! But if you go and ask people living in that community they can say a completely different story! There are so many people in this community that has amazing happy marriages and loving families and schools that answer your questions and accept you just the way you are that isn’t pressuring etc. If you go in with negative eyes you will see these people because there are people that are like that in every community but if you come in with an open mind you can see an entire different picture
@@carolinesa91 Hey! Nobody tells me what I am and am not allowed to have we make our own individual decisions. I grew up in that exact community and did not at all relate to any of this. It isn’t at all what this movie makes to be.
@@rusyrichter544 thanks, I'm sorry if it seemed offensive. I was asking because I was curious, since in the series they are not allowed to use Internet or having smartphones.
@@carolinesa91 No problem! It is such a valid question because from the movie that’s how they make it seem. Again it is stereo typing the whole community from one story so it’s completely biased.
Rusy, I agree with you. Esty's parents were not compassionate of her needs, there was a desperation in their voice to "keep her in line" and it doesn't work. They did not know that compassionate discussion of what the girl wants would have helped. But because Esty's parents did notgive her want she needs, that does portray Judaism in any way. One set of parents cannot possibly portray Jewish values. I am a married Ultra Orthodox married woman, A licensed MHC and my Judaism is PRECIOUS to me. Torah, if one studies or finds a mentor who has studied well, has beautiful instructions on how to live life to give us the most PLEASURE possible in this life. If anyone has not known pleasure and happiness they are not experiencing true Judaism. My advice: don't run away, but do look for your own Rabbi that will understand your pain and your needs. Torah demands that my husband treatment me well, with kindness with respect, that he take care of all my needs and put my needs before his own. Torah expects that he learn how to make me happy. For all of you who identify with Esty, know: Don't blame Judaism for your pain. Your family may have needed help.
this series is on the same level of excellence as yentl, fiddler on the roof, the chosen, jazz singer, and stranger among us. Also as a kid I watched a movie called hester street- that was so good too.
@@dgemmy5 well I may appear in an arrestation scene in which a French policeman arrests someone who might be a resistant, and I will be closer to the camera (I’ll walk with a bike) behind a policeman chatting with someone at a café
Looking from a Christian perspective and someone that comes from the "world" Esty so longs to be a part of, I look at her world and so wish I had been born into such a community of innocence. A privilege where the man is exactly that and is responsible for his family. What a privilege to know the Jewish ways/language/prayers/mitzvahs etc. Just my take. Loved the movie and learning so much.
If you like this, you should find out more about what G-D did for devout Jews in Jerusalem 1st Century AD in fulfilling His promise to faithful Abraham(Genesis 18:18) Start with prayerfully reading The Book of Matthew or the Book of the Acts of the Apostles. One faith, once delivered to the saints, Jerusalem, 1st Century AD and all else is controlled opposition.
Just to be clear I think you may have misunderstood things. Etsy did not want to be lart of thr christian world. Christians massacred her family and drove her community to extreamism. Today Etsy is not livimg a secular nor is she living a chrstian life. She is a living a modern fufilling jewish life, just not an orthodox Jewish one.
I'm Jewish, but I grew up reform. my family didn't see the need of following such strict rules to be "proper Jews". I've been doing a lot of research into the different levels of orthodoxy and I have never in my life seen a more fundamentalist level of faith within Judaism. I always thought that FLDS, Southern Baptists and Pentecostals were extreme. this is....wow. that's all I have to say. wow.
Amazing and true !! If you thinking this is not real it happened to many women and special young guys who by away they are the most cute guys you can ever meet and very innocent
I felt for Etsy in this movie, we all need to expand our horizons, no one owns us, yes we all have to live by rules, but not to this extent !!! Life goes by so quickly, we all need to smell the roses as they say!!! i am a Christian from a strict European background, but of course not ruled by religion and males as some other religious groups,, but our families were the heart and soul of our lives and continue to be!!! In this 21st century we are in a time of females being able to pursue their dreams, and from what i can see in every religion this is happening!!!
I have been catching up on this series and now into the third season. As a Believer in Yeshua/Yehoshua and have lived on and off in Jerusalem since '78 its personally interesting for me to see into the Orthodox community a little more. However, as all my American Jewish friends are secular and do Not have patience for anything Orthodox I can appreciate both sides now a bit more. Yet, I have to admit that the Orthodox relationships amongst themselves is brutally 'rough' and the men awkward towards their women while seemingly obsessed with continually being in a state of marriage . While last in Israel twenty+ years ago I was amazed at the 'open hostility' of the secular Israeli's toward their Orthodox brethren!! Yet, there is an obvious spillover-need of each group being STUCK in a world goING more insane by the day as the two extremes battle and HaSHEM looks down from heaven and knows who are His people while were all still trying to figure it out!
only if you will judge it through a film of one person's life. I am an Orthodox Jewish woman, I am licensed in my field of practice, I am happy and content and love my Judaism. Who would judge a religion that is over 3,000 years old, has never faded by the unhappy story of one person? Also, no one is following the protagonist. Often an unhappy person will fail to find happiness in her newer life for too long. after all "wherever I go, that's where I will be" the troubled "I" does not disappear when you run from your environment. In some cases the environment is not healthy, and that happens in every community. in many other cases the individual who is running is the unhealthy one.
@@chayagross6102 if you can reply on the internet, clearly you aren't living the life she was leading....this series isn't about judaism despite looking thru this particular lens, you can replace that ultra orthodox jews with any religion and the story holds true . Its about an individual having a choice, weather it is to live an orthodox live or secular or anything in between, thats immaterial.
I had a friend who was jewish, not to that extent. But, the jewish community paid for him and a group of jewish youngins to go to Israel. He said the party scene was so solid, showed me videos, it reminded me of Miami. Anyways, he wasnt about the hats and stuff but yah, he went on a vacation to party for free. lol.
that's your birthright trip. it's intended to bring jews back to israel to meet people, network, connect with your religion on a deeper level, and ideally encourage people to move to israel and/or marry within your religion.
Hi I'm from an ashkenaz Yisraelic commune and i wonder about the study made for the film, i can't approve the women cut the hair so short, neither the use of Yidish speech
Can someone explain why they cut her hair after wedding? And why some women are wearing wigs? I am not Jewish Im Muslim. Even tho I found some similarities, I have some questions.
Living in nyc And working with orthodox jews I would say that Orthodox women are very happy!! If anything i would say that the men work very hard and the woman go shopping all day 🤣
What if the woman wants to work and live as she want? Would the men who are ‘working hard’ accept this? No probably, that’s the point we are talking about, the problem is here :) women should be able to do what they want, is she happy as a house-woman? Let she be. Is she happy as an independent woman? Let she be. Why forcing her? That’s the problem we have in some societies.
@@sidrazeitouni5673 I second this comment thou this movie is about Jewish family but even Muslims can relate to it in some levels or many religious families .
Видите ли в чём дело☕☕есть вещи☕☕которые находятся за гранью моего понимания, и это меня очень! огорчает(((((( И вот этот👆фильм💝💖как раз касается этой темы,я советую его посмотреть и прошу никогда при мне не употреблять подобную религиозную ересь,я доступно излагаю??? Думаю,что да✋🌐☕☕💞
How is this movie not considered a hate crime against religious jews, if they did anything similar to black or Asian or Mexican people it would be a hate crime and be taken off I’m not saying I agree with these Jews doing all these things I’m just saying how come this isn’t considered a hate crime or discrimination or derogatory against specific group of people
This mini series is actually based on Deborah Feldman autobiography: "Unorthodox: The Scandalous Rejection of My Hasidic Roots", which tells the story of her escape from an ultra-Orthodox community in Brooklyn. It is not propaganda, or a hate crime. It was someone's experience within this particular community. Just like any other religion, there's many different communities, and many different experiences. Also being black or Asian is a race, being Mexican is a nationality, not a religion, or a community. there can be hate crimes against either; but if anything, a better point of comparison would be Muslims, Christians, Buddhists, etc.
Je suis désolé pour les juifs ultra-orthodoxes et leur lutte contre l'émancipation des femmes. Il y a des problèmes similaires dans toutes les religions. La femme veut se réjouir sans Dieu. Isaïe (3-5)
you need a course in Film Studies. I always tell my students, you can't watch fiction and then assume that it applies to a whole wide group of people in real life! that's really gullible.
@@elena_ifeoma aha. Here’s the tolerant liberal. Come to the orthodox Jewish community and rescue the women. I’m sure they’re dying to leave but can’t 🙄
@@chayagross6102e will come visit you! ONE Faith, once delivered to the saints(initially devout Jews) Jerusalem, 1st Century AD and all that followed is controlled opposition. 🙏🏾🙏🏻🙏🏿🙏🏼🙏🏽
@@shaunmckenzie5509 And you know this how? Did you check .... parts? Did you check the mothers? Did you check ethics (opportunistic scum or not), etc. Artistic community is mostly secular - knows nothing about Judaism and Jews and has many pretentious, flat as a sheet of paper, pseudo-sophisticates, genuine idiots who would sell/murder their mothers for fame and fortune. The Jewish community is not monolithic. Do you want me to tell what some Shauns did to other Shauns and said about each other ..? And this is a group of people that lived/lives in the same place. Not the diversity of experience/circumstances, Jews were forced to have throughout millenia. The 30 year war in Europe between Christians and Christians cost 30 million of lives (if I remember it correctly, it was 1/3 of the population). Continue laughing. Moronically. Leave this issue to me. dr anna
💯 💯 she was not working all day, having everything she wanted, all jewelry, go shopping when she fill like it, but she went to Germany??? I guess she hate Jewish people, and she is not one of them! Sometimes it happens- she just stock at wrong body! 😂 I’m very happy for her ex husband- he will definitely be happy now, after she left!
Toda dia falam nessa mulher, na vida luxuosa dela, na sèrie, no marido, na familia, nos filhos e no ex. Se depender de midia ela fica mais rica sò com q divulgação que fazem com tanto site falando nesse assunto.
This movie is disturbing. In fact 1/2 secular marriages fail and maybe 1/100 Orthodox-Jewish marriages fail. We have an instruction from G-D how to do things properly. Let's don't lose it over undisciplined baruchim.
Lol you do know that the numbers are this low because women are forced to stay in abusive and unhappy marriages, right? You do know that they risk their lives when they try to leave… riiiight?
@Hazel Allison it has already been statistically concluded that Western women are significantly unhappier, than women in other, especially more traditional societies. So much for freedom.
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The real question is not, “Are these people Jews?”, but rather, “Are these people Americans?” And the answer is obviously NOT. Their everyday language isn’t English, but Yiddish, a vernacular based on High German fused with many elements taken from Hebrew and to some extent Aramaic. Yiddish originated in 9th century Central/Eastern Europe, and these Ashkenazi brought it over to America from there. Being an American entails MORE than simply having been physically born here. It involves embracing the American culture and way of life, not importing a foreign culture and language into a new country. Again, this isn’t about religion-people are free to practice (or not) any form of worship they choose. “In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person’s becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American…There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn’t an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag… We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language.. And we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.” - Theodore Roosevelt (1907)
