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Unraveling the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict: The Roots of the Israeli-Palestinian Dispute-J.L.Gelvin 

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Presented by the Alworth Center for Peace and Justice
Sept. 27, 2018
Presented by James L. Glevin
The first lecture in this year's series was presented by James L. Glevin who is an American scholar of Middle Eastern history. He has been a faculty member at the University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA) since 1995 and has written extensively on the the modern Middle East, with particular emphasis on nationalism and on its social and cultural history.
His recent books include The New Middle East: What Everyone Needs to Know and The Israel Palestine Conflict: One Hundred Years of War.

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@CaptainHarlock-kv4zt
@CaptainHarlock-kv4zt 3 года назад
At 57.00 min... those ridiculous religious junkies. This is a lecture about geopolitics not some crazy fairytales or prophecies.
@good-tn9sr
@good-tn9sr 3 года назад
If you listened it was just used as an example. It makes sense as he used an Abrahamic faith which finds its origins in the Middle East.
@johnjones5220
@johnjones5220 Год назад
You know it's a great lecture then the lecturer spends the first 5 minutes telling you how much what he's talking about doesn't matter.
@gopher7691
@gopher7691 2 года назад
What’s with the gloves?
@maxheadrom3088
@maxheadrom3088 Год назад
130 years? This will be interesing.
@shulahamilton9025
@shulahamilton9025 Год назад
There is something in Islam called "Dar al Islam" (House of Islam) and "Dar al Harb" (House of War). That's the way the world of Islam has (and is) today divided
@Paraselene_Tao
@Paraselene_Tao 3 года назад
1:04:40 he meant to say 15 out of the 19 hijackers were Saudi, and not Iranian. His point remains valid.
@beasix9384
@beasix9384 2 года назад
Mossad did 911
@robZzdaboss
@robZzdaboss 2 года назад
He was being sarcastic
@Paraselene_Tao
@Paraselene_Tao 2 года назад
Hi Equilibrium. I think it was a simple mistake. He might have been thinking about the Iranians a lot.
@jstavene
@jstavene 3 года назад
I can not understand how a man so well learned can say heredity of property does not matter? from landed lords in 1080 in the UK to landlords in NY in 2021,,, the "rich" inherit and argue how its some right? and its more often if not NEARLY ALWAYS, legal to pass property to relations (or your people).. so yes I find much wrong with this lecture, (to establish that written records exist, documented that call "land of the jews" and ignoring religous overtones, the fact jews are said to own property in 2000 through the documentation of Christian bible is amazing! (I do not think nationalism is the problem) I would argue that so long as claims exist that are diametrically opposite you are likely to see conflict..
@Klayhamn
@Klayhamn 3 года назад
The bible is not christian. it's jewish.
@NicholasWarnertheFirst
@NicholasWarnertheFirst 3 года назад
@@Klayhamn Christianity is Jewish and Muslim after all there is only one God.
@jstavene
@jstavene 3 года назад
the "bible" can be many versions from many peoples, (the torah is not the kng james bible or the new testament, I prefer to be more precise, "jesus was not the "old testament" " and there are some differences comparing the old testament to the torah, heck they are not even oft in the same language to begin with
@jstavene
@jstavene 3 года назад
@@Klayhamn thats offensive and quite wrong, like saying shia and sunni muslims are all the same...they are not! (catholics are not jewish, lutherans, baptists, evangelicals,,) its derogatory to lump peoples togather who do not want to be, and are seperate, (there is many different "bibles" the torah is not catholic, and the idea the "old testament is the torah is huge oversimplification, and just not true, its better to be clear and speak directly about variants, versions, and language translations.
@mishoren
@mishoren 9 месяцев назад
The professor says it's not a religious but a territorial conflict. I couldn't disagree more. If it was only a territorial conflict it would have been resolved years ago.
@wk4240
@wk4240 8 месяцев назад
It is completely territorial, which brings with it persecution.
@mishoren
@mishoren 8 месяцев назад
​So it's all about real estate? What a ridiculous comment. You've forgotten that Israel vacated the Gaza Strip in 2005.
@TheHockeyterp14
@TheHockeyterp14 3 года назад
good lecture, Glevin didn't need to incorporate his political bias, unnecessary to validate and convey his well researched point
@NicholasWarnertheFirst
@NicholasWarnertheFirst 3 года назад
And you didnt need to repeat it?
@aaronfarkas6890
@aaronfarkas6890 2 года назад
I disagree. Actually - in my opinion - his political bias, invalidated his presentation of the “facts”. A conflict of interest usually disqualifies one as an impartial presenter of the “facts”. Judges and other professionals usually recuse themselves from commenting on the “facts” when there’s a conflict of interest. Wouldn’t you agree?
@maxheadrom3088
@maxheadrom3088 Год назад
@@aaronfarkas6890 The fact that he ignored what the US has done because of 3000+ casualties on 9/11 makes me think I won't get to the end. Yeah ... could not finish it. Sickes-Picot showed up nowere and the guy in already in 1948.
@bobdickens3674
@bobdickens3674 8 месяцев назад
you have not been in his class, one of his "features" is his incorporation of his biases into his lectures
@wk4240
@wk4240 8 месяцев назад
Something Recent: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-KMIZTiN-TrE.html
@alexzandraenger613
@alexzandraenger613 3 года назад
“There was no Jewish nation” Sir have you ever opened a history textbook in your life? There absolutely was. The Assyrians invaded it in ~730 BC.
@elrjames7799
@elrjames7799 2 года назад
@Alexandra Enger. Wouldn't that be the nation of Israel, rather than of Jews?
@LondonPower
@LondonPower 2 года назад
@@elrjames7799 there is no difference
@elrjames7799
@elrjames7799 2 года назад
@@LondonPower How can that be?
@robZzdaboss
@robZzdaboss 2 года назад
730 bc lol really? Let's be real, Jews spent more time in exile than in Palestine. Palestinians have been living in Palestine longer than Jews ever have.
@maxheadrom3088
@maxheadrom3088 Год назад
@@LondonPower In 730BC it didn't. Yitzhak Rabin, for instance, was a self proclaimed atheist.
@jilldent5514
@jilldent5514 2 года назад
Here's what's relevant- Jews were the Canaanites. They have been on the land each and every day for over 3000 years and the Arabs that came around 1920 were mostly from Egypt, Jordanian and Saudi Arabia and they only took the name Palestinian in 1967. There was never a Palestinian state or people until this time. There were very few Arabs living on the land after Rome kicked the Jews out.
@johnpolitis9060
@johnpolitis9060 Год назад
Nope! The Palestinians are Descendants of The Canaanites, not the Jews. The Palestinians were the Canaanites.
@jilldent5514
@jilldent5514 Год назад
@@johnpolitis9060 Are you making up your own history? The Canaanites spoke preHebrew, had the same utensils, hairstyles, architecture and even the same God El as the Hebrews so are you telling me that the Palestinians who only started existing in 1967 (Arabs) had Hebrew culture? The area was under the Ottoman Empire from 1417-1917 and the Arabs only took the term Palestinian in the 1900's.
@jilldent5514
@jilldent5514 Год назад
@Roman Catholic Ottoman records show throughout the centuries the population was about 230,000. There are also records showing that huge numbers of Muslims immigrated after 1880. Even so, when the Arabs attacked in 1948, almost all the Muslims fled. The DEIR YASSIN LIE is why over 100,000 left. EVERY Arabs at DEIR YASSIN was interviewed and all reported that there was no massacre at all!! Dr. Khaledi wanted to gain support from other Arab nations so put this lie out. The "stateless" people were offered a state numerous times but refused so whose fault is this? Arafat flat out refused. So if it is unreasonable for anyone to have a state, you want one state? So if you have a solution, what is it. Forget inernational law because we have the Oslo Agreement which Israel is following. We have AREAS A B and C and the Arabs rule themselves in some areas. There was never a Palestinian state, although they were offered a state and refused. Now we have Iran or Islamic Jihad in Judea Samaria so you think a state of Iran is good at Israel's border? Do you want a civil war within the Arab areas? You dont understand the situation at all!
@LanguageWithYousef
@LanguageWithYousef Год назад
David Ben Gurion literally paid a historian to make up this lie back in the 40s. The Arab conquest of Palestine happened in the 7th century. Palestine has been culturally and linguistically Arab for 1400 years. Furthermore, an ISRAELI genetic study found that Palestinians and Jews have almost identical paternal DNA. Therefore any claims that Palestinians don’t belong on the land also disqualify Jews from the land. It’s funny how questioning the origin of Jewish people is labeled as anti-Semitic, but it’s totally acceptable to question and even deny the clear origins of Palestinians.
@jilldent5514
@jilldent5514 Год назад
@@LanguageWithYousef The Ottomans have the population of the area through the years. Even though it was around 230,000 in prior years, under them, it was 335,000., It is the Bedouins who have been there since the 7th Century and the Bedouins live in the Negev, do not want their own state or two states and often serve in the Israeli army. The "Palestinians" are not the Bedouins and they dont call themselves this. The Palestinians are the newly arrived (from late 1800's but mostly early 1`900's). They dont have identical dna but some may have Jewish ancestors given that we do have Hebrew tribes mixing after fleeing. If they want to come back to Judaism as some have, Israel would be delighted to have them back!
@jstavene
@jstavene 3 года назад
One of the most foolish and idiotic "lectures" a clear political bias..
@NicholasWarnertheFirst
@NicholasWarnertheFirst 3 года назад
No not bias; truth...Zionism is just "Political Judaism" nothing more. Judaism exists independently of Israel just as with any other religion...there is no Christian or Muslim state that allows free entry to a religious state to those who purport to be of that religion apart from Israel...a truly racist state.
@jstavene
@jstavene 3 года назад
@@NicholasWarnertheFirst again ,,when used "like this" the N-word is derogatory,,and so also is the Z -word... (slurs and bigotry are terrible things)
@jstavene
@jstavene 3 года назад
@@NicholasWarnertheFirst and anything you try and say Israel has or is doing, the catholic church and Vatican State have done on a much larger scale...so why not confront the greater problems?
@NicholasWarnertheFirst
@NicholasWarnertheFirst 3 года назад
@@jstavene Zionism is political Judaism. There is no "slur" implied that is worse than that described in the lecture : nationalism for the Jews ; a "home" for the "Jews" the problem is that the home happens to be the home of two other religions.
@NicholasWarnertheFirst
@NicholasWarnertheFirst 3 года назад
@@jstavene Tell me more. Don't be coy; what is the "greater" problem?
@abbenson3715
@abbenson3715 5 лет назад
Did U Know why Palestinians didn’t demand Jerusalem and West Bank when it was occupied by Jordan? Because the Palestinian Nation was Not Invented Yet! Even more...till 1998 they held Jordanian ID's and Passports !!!
@123n704123
@123n704123 3 года назад
Because they were colonized by the british 😐
@NicholasWarnertheFirst
@NicholasWarnertheFirst 3 года назад
@@123n704123 Yes. The British Territory of Palestine Passport looks exactly like the British Passport
@ao9970
@ao9970 3 года назад
Stop believing your lies lol Your 60s pm said that she had a Palestinian identity and passport before there was a thing called israel
@ao9970
@ao9970 3 года назад
If anyone asked you what was this area's name before this conflict you know it was called palestine And stop directing the argument to the names other than the core The core is that you stole the land whatever its name or authority was YOU STOLE THE LAND, OCCUPIERS!
@NicholasWarnertheFirst
@NicholasWarnertheFirst 3 года назад
@@ao9970 Well said !!! These Zionists are no better than racist scum.
@sandrawooten9477
@sandrawooten9477 2 года назад
God gave this land to Israeli. Mohammed didn't give it to Palestinian.
@robZzdaboss
@robZzdaboss 2 года назад
God gave it to the Israelites, then the Israelites killed Jesus and God gave it to the Ishmaelites also known as Arabs 👍😊
@robZzdaboss
@robZzdaboss 2 года назад
*The Parable of the Wicked Tenants* (Mark 12:1-12; Luke 20:9-18) 33Listen to another parable: There was a landowner who planted a vineyard. He put a wall around it, dug a winepress in it, and built a tower. Then he rented it out to some tenants and went away on a journey. 34When the harvest time drew near, he sent his servants to the tenants to collect his share of the fruit. 35But the tenants seized his servants. They beat one, killed another, and stoned a third. 36Again, he sent other servants, more than the first group. But the tenants did the same to them. 37Finally, he sent his son to them. ‘They will respect my son,’ he said. 38But when the tenants saw the son, they said to one another, ‘This is the heir. Come, let us kill him and take his inheritance.’ 39So they seized him and threw him out of the vineyard and killed him. 40Therefore, when the owner of the vineyard returns, what will he do to those tenants?” 41“He will bring those wretches to a wretched end,” they replied, “and will rent out the vineyard to other tenants who will give him his share of the fruit at harvest time.” 42Jesus said to them, “Have you never read in the Scriptures: ‘The stone the builders rejected has become the cornerstone. This is from the Lord, and it is marvelous in our eyes? 43 *Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit.* 44He who falls on this stone will be broken to pieces, but he on whom it falls will be crushed.l” 45When the chief priests and Pharisees heard His parables, they knew that Jesus was speaking about them. 46Although they wanted to arrest Him, they were afraid of the crowds, because the people regarded Him as a prophet. Qur'an 3:21 Those who disbelieve in God's signs, which show that He alone is the Lord and the One worthy of being worshipped, kill His prophets wrongly due to hatred, and kill those who call for justice by commanding good and forbidding evil - give these murderous disbelievers news of a painful punishment
@aaronfarkas6890
@aaronfarkas6890 2 года назад
@@robZzdaboss … Actually, the Romans killed Jesus, not the Jews. Read the New Testament, or ask your Pastor😊
@robZzdaboss
@robZzdaboss 2 года назад
@@aaronfarkas6890 yes the romans killed Jesus because the Jews asked them to. Who payed Judas his 30 pieces of silver? Don't get smart with me kid, i know more about this shit than most pastors and I'm not lying about it like televangelists because unlike them and Judas, I'm not being payed by Israel
@aaronfarkas6890
@aaronfarkas6890 2 года назад
@@robZzdaboss Thanks for calling me “kid”. I’m 70 yo. On the one hand, you’re technically correct. In the Gospel of John, the phrase, “the Jews”, is used at least 9 times to denote those who encouraged and assisted in Jesus’ execution. In the Book of Matthew (27: 25-26), the Jews accept responsibility for the execution. It’s also recorded that Jews assembled before Pontius Pilate and demanded that Jesus be crucified, proclaiming, “His blood be upon us, and our children”. Having said that, keep in mind, the following: Several major Christian denominations have denounced the claim that that “[all] the Jews” killed Christ. On October 28, 1965, with the approval of the Second Vatican Council - proclaimed by his Holiness Pope Paul VI - issued the Nostra Aetate statement which declare that “What happened in His [Jesus] passion cannot be charged against all the Jews, without distinction, then alive, nor against the Jews of today.” In 1964, the General Convention of the Episcopal Church declared, “We reject the charge of deicide - Christ God killers - against the Jews and condemn antisemitism”. Other denominations, including The Council of the Evangelical Lutheran Church and the Alliance of Baptists have issued statements regretting, “interpreting our sacred writings in such a way that we have created enemies of the the Jewish people”. I’m Jewish and wish you Health, Wealth and Peace of Mind. You’ll feel better if you stop hating “the Jews”. Oh… and kid…while I’ll be celebrating Passover - as Christ did at the Last Supper - I wish you an Easter Holiday filled with the Holy Spirit. 😊
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