Note that SOS was not "barely four months old." It one of a number of radio service regulations which became effective in 1908. Three dots three dashes three dots easy to key, easy to recognize and easily remembered, by telegraph or morse lamp. It came later that the code was related to the letters SOS. It was first used in an emergency by a Cunard ship in June 1909.
Might it have been possible to save the Titanic ? For example had they flooded say 3 or 4 of the STERN watertight compartments the Titanic would have simply sunk lower into the water on an EVEN keel and perhaps reached the level of the sea BEFORE breaching the height of the watertight compartments ? Has this situation ever been considered ?
Apparently no. The ship was said to float with any 2 adjoining compartments flooded but not 3. Or any 3 of the first 6 or the first 4 but not the first 5. The Titanic had the first 6 breached. The pumps could keep boiler room 5 pumped out but 1 to 5 were taking water faster than the pumps could pump out the water. Chief Engineer Bell felt the pumps could keep the ship afloat but Thomas Andrews of Harlen and Wolf said the ship would sink in an hour, maybe two but not much more. Perhaps they should have tried your idea but the water that far back would have gotten to the generators and killed the lights and pumps.
@@boblackey1 Is there any evidence whatsoever that they tried to actually save the ship?. I would have thought they would have at least tried to plug some of the holes with perhaps bedding or mattresses. It has been done many times before.
@@scabbycatcat4202 it's taking thousands of tons of water per second in five different compartments, 14ft above the keel in four compartments in 15 minutes there was absolutely no time to throw something together the pumps would have been the only hope but you can't pump out water as fast as it's coming in
I love it when people that have the ability to rewind, study the event through and through, look over everything in the investigations both in England and the United States, look over all of the Survivor testimony and then come up with some ideas on how they would have saved the Titanic. I'd like to see you in a situation where you have about an hour after the man that DESIGNED THE FUCKING SHIP tells you it's going to the bottom of the Atlantic *no matter what* and see how fast you think on your feet. I'll bet you're probably going to trample some women and children on your way to a Lifeboat and that's that. Actually nevermind oh, you're probably right. The problem was probably that the owner of the ship itself, the man that designed it, and the captain of the ship whose reputation and life was on the line probably didn't have the adequate motivation to try and save that ship or their own lives. If only those guys had access to RU-vid comment sections in 1912 ☹️ Titanic's head would have been plugged up with mattresses and maybe World War one would have never taken place. I mean, did Franz Ferdinand ever consider *not* getting shot in the fucking face?
Can anyone tell me of ANY design feature which was unique to both Olympic and Titanic which would make them any more unsinkable than every other passenger liner before them ??
@@scabbycatcat4202 I'm not entirely sure. I'll have to research it. I understand the Lusitania and Mauritania didn't and they were the two Cunard sisters White Star was responding about. Shipbuilder Magazine in 1911 did a big spread about it and declared the Olympic and Titanic practically unsinkable. The Olympic got most of the press and attention until the Titanic sank. And in the wake of the sinking they made changes to the Britannic (Gigantic) while under construction and recalled the Olympic to install more lifeboats and a double skin and extended bulkheads. And the Olympic then became heavier than the Titanic which was the measure used to declare the Titanic the largest ship afloat. The 3rd ship Britannic was heavier than both Olympic and Titanic. Britannic had a double skin below the waterline and the bulkheads ran up to B deck yet it sank faster than the Titanic when it struck a German mine during WW2 as a hospital ship.
@@boblackey1 Thanks for that. I know the Lusitania and Mauritania were much better built than Titanic due to input from the Admiralty. They actually had longitudinal bulkheads with watertight doors and it is almost certain they would have survived the same damage as Titanic sustained, yet I never heard anyone ever claim they were unsinkable
@@scabbycatcat4202 Lusitania sank in 18 minutes. Captain Turner stepped into the sea as the bridge went under and he did that again on another ship. Those ships had steam turbines powering four four blade propellers and were the fastest liners on the Atlantic in their day. But they had too much vibration especially in the Stern and were most expensive to operate burning more coal on a crossing than the White Star ships. Harland and Wolf did not have the expertise to make engines that powerful and fast. So they chose a larger ship that was cheaper to run. But the White Star ships while slower than the Cunard ships but could make 26 mph. After the war the British government claimed a large German liner that was given to White Star to make up for the Germans sinking the Britannic. By 1918 the Germans had built a liner larger than the Titanic. White Star called it the Majestic. The originial plan was three ships on the New York run. Olympic, Titanic and Gigantic or Britannic. There is some evidence it was to be called Gigantic before the Titanic sinking. The Olympic was the only one of the 3 sisters to fulfill the original plan.
I would have asked why the Captain didn't unload all the passengers on to the surface of the iceberg they had just struck! Surely they could have found it quite quickly and pulled up alongside lol or just had the few lifeboats ferry the passengers over to a lower surface area on which to unload. (It would have at least been worth investigating!) Or, why the Captain didn't limp along as close to the California, (fewer than 10 miles away,) even with a breached hull, Titanic had an hour and a half before she went down, instead of sitting in one place she could have pointed in that direction and closed that 10 mile gap before Titanic started listing too much to continue! (So many alternatives lol there MUST have been a way to save more people im convinced of it!)
There's no Gangplank to kick out to board an iceberg, nor is there a special spot at the right height on the iceberg to safely get on it. Maybe you try to swim to it but who knows if there's even a spot where you can climb up. They stopped the ship for a reason. The forward inertia would have only sped up the head going down. This wasn't Captain Smith's first Voyage. It was supposed to be his last before retirement . Very few people on the planet at the time would have been more qualified to handle the situation.
If they had filled the Titanic with Ping-Pong balls or packing peanuts (instead of engines, boilers, coal bunkers, cabins, etc) , it would now be a floating hotel/museum like the Queen Mary.
Curse those evil White Star executives for not filling Titanic's hull with packing peanuts instead of boilers, reciprocating engines, coal, and a turbine engine necessary to propel it to her destination port! What were they thinking!?! LOL! Yeah, I can assure you, with or without the aid of packing peanuts had Titanic never sank then eventually she would have been scrapped like 99.9999% of pretty much every other ship of steel. The Queen Mary was a rarer than rare exception to this certainty in the cycle of life for these great ships. One must not forget with no tragic sinking event, especially one occurring on a ship's maiden voyage, Titanic would have been just another superliner of the early 20th Century.
The pressure would have crushed them completely. There is no way that would have worked even if they did find the wreck and the hull was in one piece intact other than the iceberg damage that sank her.
"Gave them a top speed of 24 to 25 knots"....... I am amazed at how things get exaggerated over time. You would have expected this fella to do some serious research before standing in front of a crowd giving a lecture. The Olympic class had a top speed of 22kts.
Too much melodrama for me. Let the story tell itself. The overacted dramatic pauses at the end had my eyes rolling. Is it about the tragedy, or about the storyteller?
@@JoeyMartz I am not @Titanic, nor I'm an expert, but as an example: It's common knowledge that Titanic had 6 watertight compartments damaged during the collision and consequently flooded; if it had been 5, she'd have made it. In the lecture however he states that 5 compartments were damaged and that she would have survived if it was only 4 of them flooded. I was surprised at this basic error since even I know that.
