Until Dawn vs The Quarry: Which Game is Better? 

Until Dawn is the clear lone S Tier of all the Supermassive/Dark Pictures games because of the writing and character development. Full stop.

As always mind blown at the quality of your video! The editing, research, the whole shebang is so well done and charming and you do it all by yourself! The opener had me grinning already, chefs kiss. Yours are part of a view videos I'm excited to sit down and do nothing but watch and absorb. The biggest difference between the games for me was always that The Quarry felt like a rushed, bit loveless filler episode while Until Dawn was the big, fleshed out season finale. And thanks to you I finally understand why the games feel that way!

This video is criminally underwatched for how well it is produced.

Excellent video essay and analysis! I loved the wide array of sources you've used and the comparisons and contrasts between the two games. I definitely think the Quarry disappointed me, but it's hard to captivate the initial surprise and excitement of Until Dawn when it was a new concept at its release. Until Dawn felt like a love letter to horror... whereas the Quarry just felt like them trying to keep to a format that had proved successful before. It's always hard to live up to previous successes, as well as seeing what to change and evolve in game development and what to keep! I'm curious about your thoughts on the Dark Pictures Anthologies in regards to these criteria. Looking forward to more great videos from you and your channel!

Until Dawn felt like your choices actually mattered and the characters felt realistic, making choices that made sense, changing how they interact with others later on. The Quarry had really cringy characters that were hard to relate to and the choices felt more superfluous and only changing whether or not the character survived. Not to mention the fact that The Quarry's story only happens because one of the characters sabotages their only mode of transportation to help a character they don't like, try to get some ass. Until Dawn's start is interesting and makes sense in universe. Gary hit the nail on the head with the monster issues. Like why do Werewolves if your hair sims are so bad you just take them out?

We talking about the Hag of Hackett's Quarry?

Thank you for this video, what a treat! It’s clear just how much work went into this, the quality and the research are amazing. (Also, after the LC series the word “strategy” will never be the same to me again 😭)

Even after all this time, The Quarry is a guilty pleasure for me. It has loads of missed potential and even as a character centered narrative it drops each character’s arcs as it goes along. The lackluster Evidence mechanic and one per-use Tarot Cards baffle me. So many scenes that give character depth are secret optional scenes under specific circumstances. I got the most upset over Abi’s death as we are only given ONE line right before she dies by Kaitlyn vaguely explaining that Nick would be fine if she shoots him. Didn’t have time to process that before the choice came on how to keep both alive. On paper Laura/Ryan & Kaitlyn/Dylan’s scenes in the finale are cool. Using clues and decisions throughout to unlock a grand bookend against the antagonist is really cool! And the lodge showdown having multiple failsafes if you keep Emma/Abi alive or the toy is great as a finale but it prolly is too open ended. Would love to see these ideas fleshed out in a future title! Maybe a premonition could be used to explain you could accidentally end in a lose-lose scenario would make it fair? I honestly like the characters in The Quarry more but they don’t have an arc. Which is a shame as they have some good hooks to develop! But Until Dawn is way better executed in its plot there’s no denying it.

Wonderful video ✨ very interesting and I loved all the different sources being used. I agree with how Until Dawn just felt so much more immersive. I enjoyed that playing it more times I discovered things I had missed and some of the plot. Or how different it felt to play every character. I still enjoyed the Quarry, but agree with how rushed or undeveloped some of the plot/characters felt. I hope to see more videos of you soon Gary! 💕 I love this type of nerdy game talk haha

This was a greattt video.I was invested the entire way through. Nice research too!

This is a great video essay!

really cool to get a gary lecture for free!! 😂 i do think both games have a lot of issues and i rly think that supermassive should've learned from the critiques they received from native americans about what they used as "monsters." i don't think they've ever responded to it. the quarry was pretty disappointing compared to until dawn, i agree with a lot of other commenters that it felt rushed. there wasn't as much payoff with the werewolf storyline and everything felt a bit forced, especially with the background of the "villains" being based on prejudice people faced. i feel like supermassive maybe needs to really change things up in a new game, reinvent their formula and go back to the really interactive-gameplay roots of games like until dawn. thanks for sharing your thoughts :D it's so cool to learn more about how games really work on the back end AND front!

Another great video once again! The thing I love most about your videos is you take your time to do research about the games! In my opinion i think the quarry looks more rushed compared to until dawn. Much love gary 💛🧡

Very well thought out presentation. It really gave me a better understanding of just how involved the writing and programming is for a multi branched visual story. Until Dawn is definitely the winner in my book as well but I really appreciate you drawing attention to the point that Until Dawn was genre creating and everything coming after it would inevitably be compared to it. I know for a fact that, even though I love the game, it is a weighty reason for why The Quarry fell flat for me. If The Quarry had come first, I probably would have enjoyed it far more. That being said, Until Dawn is arguably the better game, as you have very lovingly expressed. So I would think that if game releases had been swapped, I would've liked Until Dawn even more because it would have out shined its predecessor. Thanks so much for the love and attention to detail! Well done!

I've got nothing more to add than Guz-Guz. The video is so well made and all on your own Gary. Good job! To me The Quarry always felt less finished and polished, kinda rushed and Until Dawn was far better. Now I also know why.

Until Dawn triumphs over any other game for the mere inclusion of legend Emily ''Palm of my Hand'' Davis.

Really great work you've done here! I didn't play The Quarry but I watched it. If you have Brenda Song's character in the kitchen by herself and choose the refrigerator she does actually lock herself in and freeze to death like you expected. When I saw that option I thought the freezer meant to lure the werewolf in and trap it there. Good thing I wasn't the one playing LOL.

Who are you to tell me not to eat people? >:(

Great video as always! My thoughts on The Quarry: I wonder if they rushed the reveal because it just seems that people don't have the patience anymore to wait for it. I'm sure I remember reading something that they had so much trouble with the fur that they had to remove it, hence why they're weird bald werewolves. Until Dawn is great but I think it falls under the Undertale curse of having rabid fans who think anything else is rubbish.

Great video! As a wannabe game designer, I find your content incredibly interesting and informative

The Quarry was Until Dawn 2.0 until Supermassive Games took the demo prototype Sony Interactive Entertainment funded to pimp out to other publishers

Great analysis! You highlighted every gripe I had and everything that made Until Dawn a fun game/viewing experience. As much as I simp for Until Dawn, both games are 1000x better than all of the dark pictures games in my opinion.

I recently saw Until Dawn and The Quarry gameplay video. and i like Until Dawn more

I know nothing about the quarry but wanted to like and comment anyway to show my support 😘 (pretending this is the Yun Jin kiss emote on twitch 😂)

The complete difference between the quarry and until dawn is because Until Dawn had an easier development cycle not to mention Until Dawn had backing from Sony whilst the Quarry was independent because Supermassive broke off the relationship with Sony(who owns Until Dawn Rights). The actor for Jacob said around 30% was cut from the quarry not to mention they had to develop with covid and a more rushed development cycle.

IDK, I feel like Until Dawn raised a bar and set a standard especially when it came out. The Quarry was ok-ish felt like a Dark Picture game ngl, Supermassive has an issue of separate teams working on separate games, so why not just work all together and bring something good.

Yes! I was waiting for a video like this! To add: I played The Quarry with some friends and some of the tropes put us off. The Romani + the albinism part are the major ones. We should not use these tropes in horror media. Romani people are still seen less than human, especially in Europe and this also has to do with tropes in media. Don't get me wrong anti roma sentiment did and does exist, but add media tropes to it and it's like adding gasoline to the fire. The same goes for albinism or any other trope like for example Voodoo. I think games should start hiring sensitivity writers and readers like publishers do for books. Or just have diverse writers and dev team.

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B4 it starts teamn untill dawn quarry was good but into was wayyy to long to get the game going

Ashley is the worst lol

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