Untold Story of PIA’s Destruction By Former MD and Zardari's Close Friend | Who Crashed PIA Part 2 

A book should be written on this topic so that the future students can learn from this fiasco as case studies.

A very good and eye opening program, both parts

Hamara mulk aisy log he khah gai jin ka zikar yahan ho raha hia

It does not look nice to interrupt the host unnecessarily. He should think over it.

Host should allow to guest let him speak please don’t interrupt the guest if you’re doing this podcast for yourself then don’t put on RU-vid

Now do podcast on why army is so corrupt

only in Pakistan COAS can call and summon MD of national airline lol

My goodness. There is so much interference by the host. It is total mental torture. Why doesn't the host pose and answer the question. Why does he have to invite any guest

کیا مہمان کو بغیر کسی ٹوکنے اور مداخلت کے بولنے نہیں دیا جا سکتا ؟ اتنی مداخلت کہ کوفت بھی ہوتی ھے اور بات سمجھ بھی نہیں آتی

مولانا، میزبان کو بات کرنے دو۔ اور تحمل سے سنو۔

I thoroughly enjoyed the podcast; it was both informative and interesting. The host's knowledge was evident, and his interactive questioning was engaging. However, it would be even better if he allowed the guest to complete his points without interruptions and then asked additional questions. Just my two cents for improvement.

We are grateful to Farhan saheb for doing such a beautiful interview to open our eyes.

Sir Capt. Ajaz Haroon was marvellous MD of PIA, he worked hard and did the maximum efforts to bring PIA on the track.

Ejaz Haroon. Is a premier destroyer of PIA, he was a front man of PIA, he tried to confined PIA operation to ISTANBUL, He was most incompetent MD if PIA, PIA captain refused to board him on the aeroplane, he was so unpopular that you use board the plane from cargo. If you remember he put the bill board with a slogan ( Democracy is the best revenge) on PIA account. Please don’t podcast interview if people who destroyed PIA and now pretending to be the loyal. The destruction of PIA began from in 1971 under the civilian dictatorship of Zulfiqar Bhutto. PIA was the best airline , but PPP/PML N , MQM are the major culprits. I would request you interview professional. PIA has been the victim of political influence. Only way revive PIA to free PK from political parties

فرحان صاحب ! اب آپ کو پی آٸی اے کی باقی دو بڑی باڈیز PALPA اور aircraft engineer کو بھی بلانا چاہیٸے۔

Well done sir pak army ke general ki waja se Pakistan ka he Hal ho arha hai 😞

Use this comments like button as a request for PART 3 of who crashed PIA

16 سال کا کم ترین خسارہ زرداری صاحب اور اعجاز ہارون ۔۔۔۔2009-10 لاسز 38 بلین سے صرف 5 بلین ۔ یہی بات وزارت دفاع کو ھضم نا ھو پائی ۔یہی سمری ھے کل کلام کی

anchor sb apni awaz ke sehar main mubtala hain aur dosron ko katnay aur jamly mukamal kernay ka shouq rakhty hain

Yaar FM, a very abrupt edit which cut the interesting Kiani meeting story with a jerk.

Raftar we need a 3 part series about steel mills or should I stay steal mills... great job with Pia podcast

پاکستان میں جب تک میرٹ کا قتلِ عام رھے گا ملک کی ترقی نا ممکنات میں سے ھے

So sad to know that how the PATRIOTS and honest persons were wasted and the donkies are every where.

میرے پیارے میزبان بہترین پروگرام آپکے توسط سے دیکھنے کو ملا۔ مگر جو اچھا نہیں لگا وہ یہ کہ آپ جو بات کاٹتے ہیں اور مہمان کو اپنی بات فصاحت کے ساتھ مکمل نہیں کرنے دیتے۔ جس سے ایک تشنگی محسوس ھوئی۔ اسپر کچھ توجہ دیجیئے

Just for these 2 episodes, I am subsrcibing. Fascinating, well conducted, insightful, shocking but certainly not surprising. Well done.

I'm deeply impressed by the recent podcast episode on PIA that provided a raw and unfiltered look into the airline's history and its journey through ups and downs. The authenticity of the episode was truly refreshing.This episode was an eye-opener and a commendable effort in shedding light on the complexities of managing a national carrier. U did a Great Job.

ضیا۶الحق کے دور تک پی آٸ اے کے اشتہاروں میں یہ لکھا ہوتا تھا کہ دنیا کو پرواز کرنا کس نے سکھایا ، تو آگے لکھا ہوتا تھا پی آٸ اے ،،، پھر جمہوری حکومتیں آگٸیں اور پی آٸ اے برباد ہوکر ختم ہوگٸ ھے ۔😢

ترکی ھمُ سے پیار ایک وجہ سے کرتا ھے کہ جب عرب ممالک ان سے جنگ کرکے خلافت ترکیہ سے علھدگی اختیار کرنا چاھتے تھے پاکستان مین خصوصی پاکستان خلافت اسلامیہ ترکیہ کے حق مین تھا

Your guest ( part 1 ) was right about Trident aircraft. Field Marshal Ayub Khan’s son Gohar Ayub was the salesmen / agent of Trident aircraft company. Moor Khan could not said No.

Respected host it will be much appreciated if you dont try to interrupt the guest that much. please let him finish the whole thing first. Hope you will find it in a good way

There is gold scattered under the soil and in the sky of Pakistan, but unfortunately we cannot take advantage of it.

Ayan Ali and others Money Laundering through airports & flights needed to be probed in too.

Thank you Capt Aaz Haroon for revealing the history behind the PIA disaster. What you say we already knew, from media reports, though not in such details..We are perhaps the only nation on this planet earth, where self-interest dominate to the extreme over common interest of the nation and its people, where the Government, the elite, the feudals, the bureaucrats, judiciary, politicos, generals, Chauderies, Sardars, Waderas, tribal elders, and ever ordinary citizens, all work in tandem for their own mega self-gains in assets, and thereby destroy the fabric and development of the society, and so we have become a beggar nation. The story of PIA is to be found everywhere in all institutions, right up to the level of everyday public dealings.. The honest exceptions are so few that they are lost in oblivion. Privation of PIA is very likely a false hope because it cannot survive on a sinking ship that generates no knowledge, no technology, no wealth, no culture, no human development. The only slight hope for PIA could be the overseas Pakistanis, who must travel to come home to their families. What a depressing environment we live in. (From a scientist and teacher in natural sciences, who spent 60 years of his life in teaching at universities and fundamental research in physical sciences in Pakistan)

We missed PK TK deal that was the only good thing Zardari Sahib was trying to do good.

1:26:00 the moment he throws his life long understanding down the drain. Otherwise great effort Raftar team. Continue the good work.

Bhai guest ko ziada bolnay dia karo beech mai sawal kar k interrupt kardaity hain ap

بالکل درست فرمایا کہ عوام میں ڈسپلن نہیں اور کرپشن بھی کرتے ہیں. صرف یہ دو کام صحیح کر لیں تو ملک ہر میدان میں ترقی کرے گا ان شاء الله.

In which sane country is the Country's civil aviation carrier under the ministry of defence😢😢😢😢

​wonderful podcast! WELLDONE TO THE HOST AND THE GUEST :)

dear ap ne PIA k higher management k logon ko ko tu bulaya ek dafa PIA k employ k kisi represent ko bhe bulayen...

With 28 years of airline experience I m a witness of events and had read the TK-PK Agreement and seen the retaliation by Joint Action Committee of PIA Employees. OTHER AGENCIES which facilitated the closure of airports, disruption of operations, and hardships to innocent passengers under instructions of civil leadership has been omitted or edited from the interview. Competent Management truly free from political and all other interference can still turn around the airline and it can remain a national flag carrier.

PIA is like AI. States cannot run airlines. Tata in India has taken over AI. Let PIA be handed over to a professional Co.

مفت ٹکٹ پالیسی پہ بھی روشنی ڈالیں پلز۔۔۔

Unable to differentiate who is the guest here. Atleast let the guest complete his point. Just interrupting every moment.

This host don't listen. Regularly interrupting 😮

Bhai jaan, overall a nice educational program full of insights. But i humbly request you to please stop interjecting too much. A good host is one who is always a good listner, you talk so much that it becomes annoying. No hard feelings, just a suggestion

سابق آرمی چیف کے حوالے سے آپ نے بات سنسر کردی ہے یہ بھی لوگ جاننا چاہتے ہیں ۔

Us dost ka naam SHAHZAD ZAHOOR and company tha I can share the list of all the contract pilots with their Staff numbers and equipment who were the beneficiary of this deal between Saqib Nisar and his so called "buddy" who was very much competent which can be asked by his fellow colleagues who had to perform both PF and PNF duties when he was on the flight.

Overall, it was an informative. But, it is noted that host is unnecessarily interrupting the guest and and forcing him to silent midway without completing his sentence. Same thing was done in part-1. So, host must listen & simply restraint himself when its guest turn.

Discipline will only come when RULE OF LAW is applied without. Sparing rich or the poor !! Yani insaf ho aur hota howa nazr aae

Pakistan biggest issue is not corruption...its LACK OF CHARACTER amomg 99% of people from all walks of life..Ruthless unbiased cleaning is desired at all levels...That can only be done by AWAM...Sorry to say they are also mostly CHARACTERLESS.. Merit is the only formula for bringing things at right status in Pakistan.. sad is why in every industry, we have a debrief on what good was needed and should have be done..when we can have programmes on achievement of history...till when we as a crowd category nation will be facing issues like such including all setups which went in losses.....means all involved good or bad are responsible 100%....our young generation has suffered all this...what a pity...what a shame..what a loss.. what a country of bad circus...many have left many are leaving...at the end everyone is at loss as so called nation. Many Regards for the MD, Why can't he be made MD again with total 100% authority for next 5 years...who is stopping.. same political shameless category people...we are at VERGE of collapsing financially..morally we have already collapsed...what else I shall write...though being very optimistic we have lost many many lovely and talented people in the row...

Excellent interview Aijaz Haroon ! Impressive indeed.

the PK-TK formula was excellent , I dont know why it was not worked .

Well done and keep it up. Face is the index of heart and cut. Aijaz Haroon by face is looking satisfied and thorou gentleman. May Allah bless him ❤

Financial and Administrative indiscipline destroys an organisation. A former MD of PIA resigns and joins Turkish Airline for over 2 years on contract. He comes back and claims his backdated seniority and salaries for the interim period he was simultaneously getting a salary from another airline. The BOD approves this. This was level of indiscipline. PIA is an organisation created through an act of Parliament and subject to rules that govern such organisations.

Very informative session. Excellent choice of questions by host... Keep up Raftar 👏

یہ مسلہ عدالت میں جانا چاہیے.

bring other stake holder interview as well to know the other side of stories like PALPA or union spoke person at that time to know the exact stories.

Bhai question k bad answer Ka hosla b rakha kren... please

Captain Ejaz Haroon was one of the best MD PIA.

Farhan.sahib.Ap.boltay.bhot hain.dosray.ki.bhi.son.ne.diya Karen.meherbani.karkay.casset.moon.say.nikal.k.Aaya.karay

THE MAFIA DONOT LET U WORK TO TAKE THE COUNTRY AHEAD. HOPE THE YOUNG GENERATION WILL WORK FOR THE GROWTH OF MOTHER LAND/

Sorry to say Pakistan me har Idare ka yahi haal hai Sab ko khud se ya apni family se pyar hai kisi ko mulk se pyar nahi hai Deshbhakti ka natak karte hai sab log

You are very bad host. Let your guest complete his sentences

As an outsider to everything (Paakistan, PIA, Paakistan political landscape, micro-macro equations between people/ organisations).. i do feel like some of what he said.. has merits. Lekin ek cheez hamesha hoti hai: nothing is ever purely 'black and white'. There always are grey areas.. and there ALWAYS is more than what meets the eye. . Like i said, I am an outsider.. i am from India and never personally crossed the border. . Lekin yeh jo 'hum tou jee clean-up kar ke, corruption hataney aaye hein' waali lollipop.. we often get it. This exact same claim was made by the post-2014 NDA government (basically BJP) here in India.. when the then defence minister claimed to have weeded out the middlemen.. kickbacks (bribes) during procurement. . So if i invested more than three hours.. watching both interviews (part 1 and this) back to back. I surely might have some genuine hook.. in it. . Largely i do feel like his strong political background, his family already being well entrenched on both sides of the border. Well.. things could not have been as simple as: i happened to be there and despite no personal interest.. I became the surety for Mister Ten percent. . Obviously the dumps that PIA is in.. needs the final solution of privatisation. Yehi yahaan bhi hua.. aur ho raha hai. Almost all profit making PSUs (public sector undertakings) are declared unfit to be run or shown with bulging liabilities.. then sold for a pittance.. aur phir raat-o-raat unki kaaya-palat ho jaati hai. They get turned around and at times .. even sold of piecemeal by the new owners. . The rot in PIA is unfortunately not just of PIA.. but our collective cultural identity. 'chalta hai' attitude, bureaucratic and political meddling and the near total collapse of adherence to even the most basic safety issues. PK-743 ka 2017 waala incident ho (7 passengers in aisle) ya phir CAA air baakiyon ki shoddy final report .. on some of the most tragic crashes. . These cultural things are endemic to our region. And I daresay that mere privatisation .. by itself.. would not necessarily make it as safe an airline.. even if it turns profitable. . I was deeply pained by the loss of Junaid ji (Junaid Jamshed) and others. And this would continue happening in the private sector too.. unless more broad-based changes are brought in. . This interview was insightful but I felt like Farhanji handled Aijaz ji with (for the pack of a more mellow term) kid gloves. Or may be those parts are edited out. Aap ek salikey-daar rishta qaayam rakhne ke chaltey.. jyada probing nahin kar paaye.

Feel bad for the taxpayers and especially for genuine people like Ejaz Haroon, who put all the efforts but the corrupt system failed him.

Very irritating host, interrupting unnecessarily.

India ke liye Pakistan authority aur citizens ka Zeher tumhe khud maar gya. 😂

Air hostess issue could have been dealt with by showing this as a safety issue, rather then discriminating aunties based on weight and age they should have been weeded out in fitness tests as the primary responsibility of cabin crew is safety of passengers. I’m sure 99% OAP aunties & uncles would not have made it…

Stop interrupting the guest all the tiMe. Let him speak. You’re really annoying and disruptive. You are destroying the rhythm

The host needs to learn to be quiet and let the guest speak. Stop interrupting

Salam bhai Musharraf Rasool Cyan was also dismissed from position of M.D P.I.A for no reason. It would be good to hear his view point. Please call him on your programme.

Hats off to the three gentlemen for stepping forward and speaking the truth .well done!👏🏼 👏🏼 👏🏼

Can anybody tell the host not to interrupt the guest and stop putting his nonsense talks in between.

@Mallick Sahab, quite informative talk. I wonder if raising questions is going to get yourself or your guests in trouble. Just saying this because no pillar of state is functioning properly and rule of law happens to be dead already.

PKTK could have been game changer 💔

Host seems to be interrupting at crucial points and not letting discussion continue in right flow - instead of focusing on issues and solutions, more interested in gossip stories

Gujral was too pro Pak. As prime minister he closed all RAW assets in Pakistan. He is even called a mole. Until Modi came, punjabis were ruling India and they destroyed India. Gujral was refugee yet his loyalty wasn’t with Indian he was a crook.

Thoroughly informative. Kudos to the host for doing his homework.

Punjabis destroyed PIA

They themselves are responsible for PIA down fall.The employees behaviour put off the passengers.They show as they r innocent but 90% fault is by employees. My flight was cancelled last minutes e out giving any option of alternative. When asked to return money I was asked to come to PIA booking office at Lahore .I waited. for 4 hours but the phone was used by one of labour union leader who continously rema8n taking for 3 hours and I was told we need to call to Karachi office as I bought ticket online so appro Al will be from Karachi .I left office after 4 hours as no one had courage to ask that union leader that customer waiting so finish your call .Never got my money back and never fly e PIA ever since

Ejaz Haroon can still help PIA out of crices. Don't think we have to sell this airline. It will be shame on Pakistan government..

Totally agreed team rafter we are the real record holders of land of lost opportunities we did not allowed merit intellectual people we all are main reasons today im sitting in amsterdam far away from my mother land sindh Pakistan because of some illetrate hijackers of freedom people

Sad Story Off PIA choor Minister are Shameless

Please also take up HBL New York closure with heavy penalty and huge cost of winding down payments.

The host has a *chull* to interpret on everything.

A former PIA Chief refused Bhutto's request to hire an air hostess who was rejected due to her weight. Also, the same PIA chief was asked by Bhutto not to take action against a PIA official who was proved to in in corruption but again he decline.

crew are there for your safety and security definitely older crew have more experience in life

Ajaz bhoy tum khul Kar Nahi book Rayha, billions and billions of rupees Lotting by Panjabi Orr Pathan.

I am pained to learn this. Wishing you and pia well from India.

Salam you should interview air marshal Arshad Malik former ceo pia

I watched this episode. First, I would like to commend you for the insightful topics you bring to the audience. However, I would like to share some constructive feedback regarding the interview style. I noticed that the guest was frequently interrupted, which made it challenging to fully grasp their perspectives. While I understand the dynamic nature of conversations, allowing the guest more time to express their views without interruption could enhance the depth and clarity of the discussion. Respectful and attentive listening is as vital as asking the right questions. It not only offers the guest the respect they deserve but also enriches the experience for your audience. I believe these adjustments could significantly elevate the quality and engagement of your podcast.

पाकिस्तान आर्मी जनरल आर्मी के अलावा बाकी हर फील्ड के एक्सपर्ट हैं, किसी भी लड़ाई में यह सफल नहीं हो पाए और इतिहास का सबसे बड़ा surrender,😄😄😄 ढाका में करवा दिया

Yes, of course Khurshid Shah had used the same method earlier, 50 crore bid of Rohri cement factory privatisation was stopped through union. Shah Sahib's frontman wanted to buy that factory for only eight crores. Captain sb. is absolutely correct.

Unbelievable!!! I wish this deal had gone through

70 years ago an unknown and proud Pakistani named A Salam returned home to contribute to the development of a young country. He was ostracised, ridiculed, rebuked, discriminated, insulted until he could no longer take it. He didn't see a future for himself. Aijaz Haroon is among the tens of thousands, maybe not be in the same category, but true and very able patriots who want to bring about a change, have been badly let down by the dishonest system. In 70 years we have gone from bad to worse. For God's sake who is behind all this? Are we a cursed nation?

I know zardari from CADET COLLEGE VVVV SHRUDE CHALAK AND CAN DO WHITE TO BLACK AND BLACK TO WHITE

Great Cap Ejaz Haroon sahib, brilliant,out class spoken,very competent MD he was ,but u know the class of our people, really pia miss this gentleman,Allah bless him nd his family.

I'm from India my request to host is to don't interrupt in middle don't break the flow unnecessary let him speak nd make his point when u interrupt decision goes other way. We r also learning from ur experiences so that we don't do the same mistakes. Btw It was a good podcast nd I have watched ur previous podcast on same topic😊

PK-TK was best of the best idea but ruined by our golf playing f******.