Untold TRUTH Behind The Controversy Of BJJ Belts

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Is the Belt System Necessary?
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The notion of hierarchy has always existed since the beginning of man. This system of grading has cut across different facets of life, including the martial arts world. The renowned belt system used for ranking the most skilled and prestigious fighters can be traced far back to the origins of Jiu Jitsu. But still, the belt system wasn’t the first way fighters were ranked. The ancient, 8th century ranking system was simple, with only two steps, and far from being saturated as the different belt colors in today’s martial arts, especially in BJJ.
The BJJ belt system has come with a lot of controversies, from lesser belts doing the most and giving a higher belt the worst whooping they could imagine to students whose skills are way below the standard of their belt rank in another gym.
Now you begin to question your reality. Should we return to the middle age era, where the ranking was simple, stick to what it is right now, or should the belt system be totally scrapped from existence?
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@MMABJJChamps 3 месяца назад

So? Do we need the belts? Yes or No?

@twosweetjones361 3 месяца назад

Judge not by the color of their belt but the content of their instagram.

@kananisha 3 месяца назад

Lol

@MMABJJChamps 3 месяца назад

hahahahah best comment yet

@kananisha 3 месяца назад

The biggest problem with the BJJ belt system is that there is no universal curriculum and standards that the ranks associate to, like other arts.

@MMABJJChamps 3 месяца назад

Exactly what I say in the beginning of the video. I agree!

@No_12c. 2 месяца назад

I trained Tae Kwon Do for almost 8 years with a several time Olympic gold mentalist. I remember how good I felt when I finally earned that belt. About a year later I was at this gym sparring with a training partner and a bare knuckle boxer came in from the street looking to practice and washed the floor with me sparing. I will say that without a doubt that there is no feeling worse in the world than feeling like your black belt doesn’t mean anything. I recently started Mauy Thai and BJJ and let’s just say I’m happy to be a white belt again. For anyone watching this worried about belts; I would say don’t worry about the belt just focus on getting better and enjoy learning from those better than you it’s about the journey not about the color of the belt.

@MMABJJChamps 2 месяца назад

Mannn, best comment ! Thank you som much!

@alevieirareis 3 месяца назад

The belt system is great. But ir would work better if there was a consensus curriculum stating what skills are included in each belt. For example, what exactly does a white belt need to demonstrate to earn a blue belt? (The answers vary greatly, but it would be nice if that weren't the case.).

@MMABJJChamps 3 месяца назад

I agree, we have created one at our school. But indeed, it should be universal.

@genevievefaubert5536 3 месяца назад

The belts are for some a great motivation to achieve their goal. But I think it's important tht the belt goes with the talent and the desire to learn more while staying humble.

@MMABJJChamps 3 месяца назад

I agree, well said. Thanks for commenting on many of my videos !

@lenovosmenovo3709 3 месяца назад

A martial arts belt only means what the person who gave it to you says it means. Standards are different from style to style and within styles can be different from school to school and in schools can be different from instructor to instructor.

@MMABJJChamps 3 месяца назад

Very well said. Ergo the question. hehe

@Mikefantasia22 2 месяца назад

Belts are great, especially as the sport continues to grow at the youth level. You shouldnt move to the next belt until you're dominating your belt. Nothing worse than getting a promotion too early and finding that out the hard way

@MMABJJChamps 2 месяца назад

Well said couldn't agree more

@poleag 3 месяца назад

Belts and stripes are great for keeping people motivated.

@MMABJJChamps 3 месяца назад

I agree, they are the main reason why they exist I guess

@topclubuninterrupted3828 3 месяца назад

The belt is necessary because it indicates knowledge. And bjj is the most technically martial art. The truth is we don’t care. Let’s talk about takedowns which the only real debate we should have.

@MMABJJChamps 3 месяца назад

Video is coming out on this topic soon. Stay tune!

@nicholasnj3778 3 месяца назад

could be something said for this when you have essentially Helena "Jujitsu Girl" competing at Blue belt when shes beating competitive Black Belts, maybe do like they do in NCAA Wrestling just put all 18-22 year olds in one big division regardless of Belt ( then that would take away $$$)

@MMABJJChamps Месяц назад

True, but she kinda is the exception of exceptions

@hasanicoward4425 3 месяца назад

Yes, When I first got in judo my sensei told us the belts were to show what we accomplished in each skill for me it helped out and made me work harder I also felt more confidence plus I seen some who get their rank feel more proud and continue to progress

@MMABJJChamps Месяц назад

True. But so many no gi gyms aren't wearing the belts... Does it change anything?

@yew2oob954 3 месяца назад

Khabib is a white belt in BJJ...does that mean he should be a BJJ black belt because he can beat everybody? The belt system preserves the entire ART, not just the current competition ranking.

@MMABJJChamps 3 месяца назад

white belt in bjj but not in other martial arts.

@yew2oob954 3 месяца назад

@@MMABJJChamps Sure...but look at my comment in the context of the video.

@eltonblack9421 Месяц назад

Khabib is a Judo Black Belt. He therefore knows the entire BJJ skill set and more

@yew2oob954 Месяц назад

@@eltonblack9421 Sure buddy...you might want to actually try both Judo and BJJ and see the difference.

@WadeSmith-oe5xd 3 месяца назад

Belt rank sort of matters, but it's not a 100% correlation to fighting skill. I was a black belt candidate in karate when I was 20 years old, and I beat all the second degree black belts in sparring every match, and could even beat black belts in a handicap match, but because I technically didnt meet some kata and bunkai requirements, my Sensei kept failing me on the BB test. Most of fighting is actually taught at white belt level. The rest of it is pure instinct IMO. Beating two "black belts" attacking me simultaneously was all instinct and physical fitness at the time.

@MMABJJChamps 3 месяца назад

You can't compare belt in bjj and in karate though. Sorry to say :( It's just different. Too many factors.

@model84 3 месяца назад

yes and no, in any sports you have some sort of division between pro and amateur participants. Belts are sort of 'carrot' to motivate and if you go beyond blue, every one knows that belts doesn't matter. But i think it's important for competition to motivate, otherwise we'll end like in judo, f.e. i train 3 months and get set with olimpic medalist, what's the point in it? The idea of growth was to 'fight' with people of similar skill level. If you go to no gi (f.e. NAGA) you still have beginner/advanced/expert (or however it's called now)

@MMABJJChamps 3 месяца назад

I like the beg / int /adv. It goes by number of years and how you see yourself. I find it a bit simpler.

@model84 3 месяца назад

@@MMABJJChamps 'doesn't matter', white/blue is beginner, purple is adv, brown/black+ is expert. At the end it's just a label

@MMABJJChamps 2 месяца назад

Yea kinda true

@tommytaylor2799 3 месяца назад

I think it depends on the situation. My case is unique because I have basically been stuck at the white belt level for over 25 years. When I was just getting ready to earn my blue belt, I had life challenges that happened that prevented my promotion. Fortunately, I have a wrestling and submission background and I can accept that I can at least prove that I know what I am doing. I will be judged on my performance and not the color cloth around my waist. I am always welcomed in the gym practice regularly with good friends and am free of belt politics.

@MMABJJChamps 3 месяца назад

So basically you are a black belt hehe

@tommytaylor2799 3 месяца назад

I cannot say that; even if I do well, I still have imposter syndrome and I still believe there is more to know for example, the guard is not always a norm for me I try to use it to escape or submit with wrestling influence. I can just say it has been a struggle for me when dealing with BJJ. Next month I plan to try again with BJJ and hopefully continue forward. In the video, there was mention of sandbagging and many people at my academy have asked me how I am still a white belt. Perhaps it is accurate to say that I have the potential to earn a black belt and would have had it sooner if circumstances worked differently. Nevertheless, I learned a lot from the submission wrestling. @@MMABJJChamps

@billystage 3 месяца назад

I don’t think we can use the success of a phenom to compare … sure she’s a 16 year old blue belt but she’s not the average blue belt. If we use them as standards, what about a BB that can’t beat Gordon, Galvao?

@MMABJJChamps 2 месяца назад

Nowadays though, there are a lot of fighters that don't match their belt level.

@JEFFMAN90 3 месяца назад

Keep the belt system it keeps people motivated to train. But you should not be chasing belts instead you should focus on chasing skill

@MMABJJChamps 3 месяца назад

That I agree. But we should add a universal curriculum for each belt.

@jakedo4577 3 месяца назад

It’s tricky because I do feel like it’s a necessary aspect of BJJ. Given how the art had been developed and evolved with time, I am on the opinion that belt rank matters. However, the requirements for belt promotion should be higher, because when you placed ages, physiological and competitive as a factor for promotion. It should be noted that it could increase an individual chance of getting their promotion. But if you compare that person to the team, it’s quite a big difference. Because the team dynamics plays a heavy role on the individual style of BJJ. In conclusion, I am on the side of keeping the belt system. Despite its flaws, I find it to be a necessity to tracking one journey. P.S: I am currently a 5th stripes White, only did this for 8 months.

@FlipzRandom 3 месяца назад

5? I thought it was four then blue belt after

@MMABJJChamps 3 месяца назад

5th stripe is blue my man! thanks for your comment and for taking the time.

@Mikefantasia22 2 месяца назад

5th stripe white? Hmmmmm....

@chrisblack426 3 месяца назад

The belts are nice for competition did you get the you get to compete with someone with similar experience

@MMABJJChamps 3 месяца назад

Could be like many no gi comp. Beg /int /adv.

@jaycraig674 2 месяца назад

The only thing I don’t like about belts is for example I got my bleu belt then move town so the new instructor asked me to start from beginning so got a bleu belt 2 stripes and move again and now lol …. Got tow bleu belts from deferent school And student are thinking I just want to beat all bleu belts and I should be a purple belt but they are no purple belts in my town and I can’t do the test with a lower ranked now I stopped but if I start again I won’t think about my belt anymore and try to explain students and coaches I just love to do bjj and just want to be here belt colours are not

@MMABJJChamps 2 месяца назад

Yea that makes sense. Thanks for commenting

@nam11r 3 месяца назад

Keep the belt please! So I can know when I should quit! Cannot wait to get blue!

@MMABJJChamps 3 месяца назад

Hahahaha, don't quit!!!!

@thedisconnect5769 3 месяца назад

The way belts were conceived initially was that someone was given a belt with their Gi and over ti their gi and belt would darken from the time they spent in it gaining natural wear and tear gradually over time it showed their dedication to the martial art. why not go back to doing it the way that takes you 30 years to get a black belt eh?

@MMABJJChamps 3 месяца назад

Could be an option indeed

@lenovosmenovo3709 3 месяца назад

That's gross and a martial myth.

@thedisconnect5769 3 месяца назад

@lenovosmenovo3709 you ruin the gag when you tell.people you son of a %@%

@MMABJJChamps 2 месяца назад

lol

@seppous 3 месяца назад

keep the belts please.

@MMABJJChamps 3 месяца назад

haha, I don't think they will go anywhere soon

@PitonGarrudo-od4sh 3 месяца назад

I personally like being a wrestler blue belt that beats black belts

@MMABJJChamps 3 месяца назад

Hahahaha, depends on how many years of wrestling training!

@RJAmos 3 месяца назад

Keep the belts 👍🏻💥

@MMABJJChamps 3 месяца назад

Yea we should keep them. Question is, the meaning behind them is not as strong as it use to.

@RJAmos 3 месяца назад

@@MMABJJChamps I heard stories about people not having the skills to the belt they have or viceversa. I am only a blue and don't want to get into deep water but for me the belt represents the time you put on the mat more than anything. There is a lot of people with different skills in all the ranks and the mats never lie. I will definitely suggest to enjoy the ride. Maybe for me the belts could be a representation of that journey (time on mat)

@bw5187 3 месяца назад

might be that bjj competitor belts should indicate such

@MMABJJChamps 3 месяца назад

True

@inmylifetime6080 3 месяца назад

Answer is above my pay grade

@MMABJJChamps 3 месяца назад

hahahahaha that's a good one. I actually laugh out loud lol!

@prasantadebnath1827 3 месяца назад

???....🤔!!!!!!!!!!!!👍Yes

@MMABJJChamps 3 месяца назад

So what do they change for you ?

@ezemeza1363 3 месяца назад

MMA doesn't have belts. Boxing neither. Kickboxing neither.

@MMABJJChamps 3 месяца назад

I know, hence my question!

@julianramirez1096 3 месяца назад

Belts should be awarded after one can beat people in their rank I don’t understand the concept of promoting non competitors at that point it’s a money scheme even if you know black belt level techniques if you’ve never done it in comp your not a black belt

@MMABJJChamps 3 месяца назад

Yea I agree, when you start destroying all your belt level, you should probably be promoted.

@Hazama91350 3 месяца назад

Bjj belts is sandbagging

@MMABJJChamps 2 месяца назад

Not everyone, but yea it exist...

@DarkLight-Ascending 3 месяца назад

..... no.... 😂

@MMABJJChamps 3 месяца назад

I got from your other comment haha

@DarkLight-Ascending 3 месяца назад

Wrestlers dont have belts.

@MMABJJChamps 3 месяца назад

I know.!

@fdptr9 3 месяца назад

Also there are no 40 yo hobbyist wrestlers

@MMABJJChamps 2 месяца назад

Might because it's too intense for the body

@Yoandrys23 Месяц назад

It would be great if you did a little research before making a video. 😢😢😢

@MMABJJChamps Месяц назад

Well, not sure why you write this... I'm pretty sure I know more than you... After 16 years of BJJ, I think I'm ok to speak my thoughts.

@Yoandrys23 Месяц назад

@@MMABJJChamps Well, your video had a lot of misinformation you are only repeating common misconceptions, for example the Go idea is incomplete because in Go the pieces dont have hierachy, What he copy from Go was the raking system of Kyu and Dan. The color Black for advanced and white from beginners He got it from swimmers. 16 years of MA may sound impresive to a beginner but a lot of people out there have many more, myself included. Also you probably dont understand this but fact and opinions are not the same thing. You are free to share you thoughts not to make your own facts. I have liked other videos from this channel but this is more of the same.

@MMABJJChamps Месяц назад

Fair enough! If you think what I say is false that's sad. I had fun doing it. Hope you still enjoyed watching.

@Urmomma5f4t 3 месяца назад

The belts create big ego issues . Sometimes incredibly unwarranted when they get tapped by lower belts lol

@MMABJJChamps 3 месяца назад

I know. Many times, age and if your hobbiest or competitor, it changes everything

@lenovosmenovo3709 3 месяца назад

Without belts beginners grow the biggest egos (dunning Kroger's scale)

@MMABJJChamps 2 месяца назад

Yea that's true

@bloodsports94 2 месяца назад

People nowaday have no respect for belts. Everyone wants to re make what has been going on for generations and generations no one has respect for this shi anymore.

@MMABJJChamps 2 месяца назад

I agree, I would simply change the rules for the red belt. Thoughts?