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Unusually spicy little ionizer - with schematic 

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The biggest surprise from this unit is the very high ion output from such a tiny transformer and simple pulse circuit. It takes very little power to create a high electrostatic field.
Once again they've felt to need to add the pointless function of an on/off button implemented with a microcontroller. Ionisers are left running all the time, as they use virtually no power and have a continuous ambient cleaning effect on the air through electrostatic dust precipitation.
When the emitters are mounted close to a wall as in this version it does unfortunately create a bit of an ionic short circuit, limiting the dust collection ability, but plugged into an extension on a table would restore that function. When in the vicinity of a wall the ion output can be so vigorous that it creates a slight plasma glow at the tips of the emitter, and will create trace levels of ozone lower than natural outdoor levels.
The X04 component is intriguing. I'll guess that it's a sidac with a voltage less than 150V threshold so that it triggers reliably when running from 120V.
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@theelmonk
@theelmonk Год назад
Stick with things you find fascinating. We don't want videos about things that bore you.
@MetalheadAndNerd
@MetalheadAndNerd Год назад
I'm still hoping he will look into these ionizing hair dryers. The claims of the manufacturers are getting wild.
@youdontknowme5969
@youdontknowme5969 Год назад
I remember when they came out. I thought it was just another fad. Then I was asked to pick up one for my niece for this Christmas. I was like, "They still *_make_* those?" 🤔
@hoytdotblohm
@hoytdotblohm Год назад
Here here
@MetalheadAndNerd
@MetalheadAndNerd Год назад
@@youdontknowme5969 Search for "Panasonic nanoe". Their claims are pretty weird.
@grego3150
@grego3150 Год назад
Well said 👍
@stevedaenginerd
@stevedaenginerd Год назад
Ionizers are facinating! I love it when I see another ionizer video from you! Keep 'em coming! Thanks for all you share, helps me keep more things going and out of the landfill! 🤓
@Eduardo_Espinoza
@Eduardo_Espinoza Год назад
Agreed! They're like CRT scopes & vacuum tubes, that are still being used in the modern day! 😊
@esecallum
@esecallum Год назад
Multiple Research papers show it stops the ko-vid virus spreading by making it sticky. Also hospital experiment showed zero cross infections.
@williamromine5715
@williamromine5715 Год назад
Finally, I can comment on this subject. Generally, I don't know what he is talking about, but find his voice and presentation very soothing. I'm an old(80) codger, and know nothing about electronics. However, in this case, I used to have an ionizer that we used in a bedroom. It was enclosed in a fake wood box and had a fan which blew out the ionized air into the room. It seemed to clear the air, but it was a bear to clean. The cleaning process was long and tedious, but never seemed to work. It finally became so covered in dust and grime, that it stopped working. So, finally, the village idiot can make a comment, even though I still don't have a clue what Clive is talking about. This is a red letter day in the Romine household!
@philsmith5449
@philsmith5449 Год назад
Ha ha lovely, sir. I also have no idea about the electronics but I like his voice and comments! "One moment please" "oh my" "overengineered!" "well that's dangerous" etc. 🥰
@williamromine5715
@williamromine5715 Год назад
@@philsmith5449 I especially like it when he says "be careful, the light is coming back on"". I am greatful that I'm not the only one who is lost throughout the whole video. Now I know there at least two of us. Maybe we should form a fan club.(wear same blazers, have a secrete handshake etc. We could use that tester thing he uses as the club emblem.)😆 Have a HAPPY NEW YEARS
@SilveniumTheDrifter
@SilveniumTheDrifter Год назад
@@philsmith5449 I love his voice, and especially, "one moment please." as well.
@jkobain
@jkobain Год назад
If Clive doesn't make videos on the topic he likes so much, making videos does him less joy in general. Which isn't good for us, the viewers. Also, one *has to appreciate* ionizers, they are very interesting and important in our life.
@ConstantlyDamaged
@ConstantlyDamaged Год назад
I wonder how much a 240v rated toggle push button switch would cost? Possibly more than the BOM on the control side of that circuit. A sheet of paper with a hole cut in it, placed around the socket and blue-tacked to the back of the ionizer will catch most of the crud and save your wall.
@Eduardo_Espinoza
@Eduardo_Espinoza Год назад
The paper trick is very smart! i like it 🙂
@BenKonosky
@BenKonosky Год назад
Are you saying the ionizer videos polarize people?
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom Год назад
They do. Some leave positive comments and some negative.
@BjornV78
@BjornV78 Год назад
When I see these ionisers, I always think back to school in the mid 90's, in the metal and welding workshop we had a very expensive central fume extraction with a flexible arm on each workbench with an air valve. This air valve only opened as soon as welding was started, and worked with a current clamp around the mass cable of the welding station. This fume extractor also had air recirculation to reduce heat loss in winter, and had 4 or 5 mega-sized (approx 60 by 60cm) electrostatic filters stacked on top of each other, each filter look like the construction of a electric fly swatter. Several times a week these filters had attracted so much fine dust that arcing occurred, and with every spark (clearly audible) a cloud of dust was released (including the smell) and this was blown into the workshop. Often had a headache afterwards, but then always thought that this was from the welding smell, while it must have been more likely from the ozone, which was blown into the workshop at high volume.
@samuelfellows6923
@samuelfellows6923 Год назад
🫢⚠️ - that should have been permanently vented to the outside with heat recovery for the make-up air. Sounded dangerous with it arcing and spewing dust back into the workshop 😶‍🌫️😷, now those have HEPA + carbon filters that are regularly replaced
@BjornV78
@BjornV78 Год назад
@@samuelfellows6923 , yeah, everytime we hear it sparking , a cloud of brown dust was blew out. These filters where made that they lost there static charge and the dust was collected at the bottom in the central fume extractor during the maitenance mode, but they lost there charge dus massive dust buildup during working mode. A real design flaw, while this was a installation that costed 5 digits back in those days.
@JuniorJunison
@JuniorJunison Год назад
I actually don't mind the ionizer videos. I watch you to learn about reverse engineering circuits, at which you seem to be very good at doing. So keep on doing what you're doing, I'll still watch.
@MetalheadAndNerd
@MetalheadAndNerd Год назад
I'm still hoping he will get to ionizing hair dryers. These are now in the third generation and the manufacturers now not just claim to reduce electric charges in the hair but they claim to transfer water ions into the hair to prevent overdrying.
@alnicospeaker
@alnicospeaker Год назад
Interesting, so your head gets bombarded with hydronium and hydroxide? Sounds great for a long metal mane ;)
@MetalheadAndNerd
@MetalheadAndNerd Год назад
@@alnicospeaker Look up "Panasonic nanoe" for what I mean
@kimchristensen2175
@kimchristensen2175 Год назад
@@MetalheadAndNerd we could watch Clive dry his beard with it before he takes it to bits...
@WizardTim
@WizardTim Год назад
The high voltage diode with blue chevrons on one end (I assume, can't see it too well in the video) is very likely a 2CL77 20 kV 5 mA diode, it's one of the most common HV low current diodes you'll find today, I did a video a year ago crossing sectioning one to take a look at the silicon junction to find out how they get such a high breakdown voltage.
@AnnaVannieuwenhuyse
@AnnaVannieuwenhuyse Год назад
Interesting!
@Eduardo_Espinoza
@Eduardo_Espinoza Год назад
Does it build up the voltage until* the diode let's it pass?
@AnnaVannieuwenhuyse
@AnnaVannieuwenhuyse Год назад
@@Eduardo_Espinoza no! That's what the diac/sidac are for.
@Eduardo_Espinoza
@Eduardo_Espinoza Год назад
@@AnnaVannieuwenhuyse thank you! 😊 I don't know much about this field.
@AnnaVannieuwenhuyse
@AnnaVannieuwenhuyse Год назад
@@Eduardo_Espinoza a little goes a long way ✌️
@StubbyPhillips
@StubbyPhillips Год назад
Unfortunately lots of people (more every day it seems) can't deal with anything that's not either "good" or "bad" (or left or right or red or blue...) That ozone is beneficial in small amounts and harmful in large amounts is a concept that's just too complex for them to comprehend.
@BjornV78
@BjornV78 Год назад
6:58 You can recover these carbon wires also from (old) sparkplug cables. In sparkplug cables are these carbon fibers used as a resistor for EMI suppression to the onboard radio and electronics in the vehicle.
@craxd1
@craxd1 Год назад
That reminds one of the old whiskey distiller's trick. Many different labels on the outside of the bottle, but the same whiskey on the inside. Some people will swear up and down that one label, from the same distiller, is better than another.
@jimnelsen2064
@jimnelsen2064 Год назад
Well, of course we all know its really the coopers who make the magic of whiskey.
@emeraldhill8294
@emeraldhill8294 Год назад
Yes, years of hotel work, and as long as its the right label the contents isnt here or there.
@napalmholocaust9093
@napalmholocaust9093 Год назад
Dust precipitor was the name given in my mid 40's copy of manufacturing tools. Great book. Its all wartime production.
@Eduardo_Espinoza
@Eduardo_Espinoza Год назад
Wow, didn't know that this concept's that old! But it gives me hope, since this is another run of the mill technology, that won't change too much once I learn it now! 😊
@frogz
@frogz Год назад
What's the name of the book? Is it available online on archive.org?
@phils4634
@phils4634 Год назад
The black ioniser has been around for a long while (or, rather, a similar casing design). Bought one of those from a Help the Aged shop in the late 70's to help deal with an "odour problem" in the rather ghastly student accommodation in which I was living. Very much pre carbon-fibre emitters - mine had ordinary sharp-point needle emitters, and worked "reasonably well" if left running continuously.
@Eduardo_Espinoza
@Eduardo_Espinoza Год назад
So it can ground the odor particles?
@phils4634
@phils4634 Год назад
@@Eduardo_Espinoza Ozone's a potent oxidiser - it'll oxidise most smaller organic molecules (and they were probably the cause!) This is the reason for ozone generators being used to remove the pong when someone has an unwitnessed death - they are VERY good for that purpose (and same goes for Mortuaries too!)
@Eduardo_Espinoza
@Eduardo_Espinoza Год назад
@@phils4634 very insightful comment! Thank you for sharing this! 😊
@marqsee7948
@marqsee7948 Год назад
@Pat Luxor particularly unpleasant odor
@emeraldhill8294
@emeraldhill8294 Год назад
@Pat Luxor death
@philkelsall1207
@philkelsall1207 Год назад
The same principle is used to remove dust from coal fired power station flue gasses but on a much larger scale.
@janami-dharmam
@janami-dharmam Год назад
and they have been in use for a loong loooong time (electrostatic precipitator)
@iamdarkyoshi
@iamdarkyoshi Год назад
Those probes look like the ones you can get on Rossmann's store. They're quite nice, and very stabby.
@Eduardo_Espinoza
@Eduardo_Espinoza Год назад
Didn't know that, but makes sense since he works on very small components! 😊
@grindererrofficial3755
@grindererrofficial3755 Год назад
@@Okurka. exactly, the are like reguler china cheapos ones,those basic needle ones
@BjornV78
@BjornV78 Год назад
@@grindererrofficial3755 those regular cheapos one work great after degreasing the tips with some IPA.
@grindererrofficial3755
@grindererrofficial3755 Год назад
@@BjornV78thanks for mentioning this for others who don't know thsi protip :)
@brucepickess8097
@brucepickess8097 Год назад
@@Okurka. And 1/10th the quality.🤔
@wherami
@wherami Год назад
you can smell ozone heavily after a storm in the air. Its also created heavily in forests during certain times of year. Here in my area when I bike through the woods in may and oct it will fill the air so much its like I was running an ozonator lol. Most probably dont even know what that smell is but since I own ozonators I knew right away. Natures way of purifying the area.
@alnicospeaker
@alnicospeaker Год назад
Indeed! I went to the woods the other day and hung my jacket to the wardrobe when I came home; hours later I passed it and could still smell the ozone near the jacket!
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom Год назад
I wonder if it was actually ozone you were smelling. That said, ozone is created in nature by rain and foliage movement, and does seem to be more prominent when the air is loaded with pollen, spores and natural plant oils. It seems to be how nature keeps the air quality in check.
@alnicospeaker
@alnicospeaker Год назад
@@bigclivedotcom I have no way of knowing, could be OH-radicals?! It smells much like the ozone produced by my angry germicidal lamp (25W) that I bought because of your videos on the topic =) So cheers and a happy 2023!
@electroniquepassion
@electroniquepassion Год назад
❤️I like it, it's always interesting. ❤️👏👋👋
@abs_nobody
@abs_nobody Год назад
clive checking capacitor discharge with his finger will never stop being amusing
@SeanBZA
@SeanBZA Год назад
Double sided board is simple, cheapest board at a PCB house, as it is the most common board, and plated vias are free as it was likely made as part of a shared panel, using otherwise unused space on the larger panel. Worth it cost wise if you are willing to wait for delivery and you have a good stock of bare boards, but want the extra stock in a week or three ahead of production.
@butre.
@butre. Год назад
I don't know why anyone wouldn't like ionizer videos. what's not to love about extreme high voltage in consumer electronics?
@HiddenWindshield
@HiddenWindshield Год назад
@@voltare2amstereo I'm positive you did that on purpose.
@umbraelegios4130
@umbraelegios4130 Год назад
Years ago there was for sale pyramid shaped ionizers, probably going for the "Ultimate Crossover". Hey look folks " Ions & a Pyramid " its gotta be extra good.
@whitesapphire5865
@whitesapphire5865 Год назад
Hah! And if you leave a razor blade under the pyramid overnight, it's magically sharpened itself by morning! Ah, the amazing power of pyramids!
@Eduardo_Espinoza
@Eduardo_Espinoza Год назад
@White Sapphire "what razor blade companies don't want you to know!" vibes 🤣
@herrkulor3771
@herrkulor3771 Год назад
I get what you mean. But it sounds advantageous for airflow and keeping distance from the housing.
@webchimp
@webchimp Год назад
Inside a Dezac pyramid ioniser. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ZeTfYK651U0.html
@SodAlmighty
@SodAlmighty Год назад
It's not a PIC12. A PIC12 would need a PULL-UP resistor on pin 4, not a pull-down.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom Год назад
It is odd, but the pin can be assigned as an input and MCLR disabled in the configuration file.
@justpaulo
@justpaulo Год назад
10:07 I think that flyback diode is there because you never know at what point in the cycle will the unit be turned OFF. It might be the case that the NPN is turned OFF when a fair amount of current is flowing in the inductor and the voltage is still not enough to trigger the SIDAC Thyristor.
@raymitchell9736
@raymitchell9736 Год назад
Having a micro to operate as an on/off switch... hmmm... Things that could have been replaced by a piece of wire... but over engineered requiring a microcontroller. LOL
@andreas9238
@andreas9238 Год назад
the connector is pretty much inacceptable for 240VAC. Spacing/Clearance between the pins - and more so btween the pads - is inappropriate for that voltage. They could have used that style of connector if they had used one at least one position larger but then with an omitted center not populated. contact (or even two omitted contacts, so you have pin - x - x - pin on the board, giving a sufficient insulation
@robp9129
@robp9129 Год назад
”Tingle ???: No Tingle" !!!🤣🤣🤣
@hob991
@hob991 Год назад
Ionizers make me ill with my lung problem.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom Год назад
A real ionizer shouldn't. But a high output ozone generator might exacerbate issues.
@hob991
@hob991 Год назад
@@mattquinn-caledoniantelevi2522 I just checked and I bought the Very retro "Japanese" air purifier. Which is indeed an ozone generator, thanks for the tip ...I may get an Ionizer and give it a try. N
@DuncanMcBride
@DuncanMcBride Год назад
I'm firmly in the latter camp and just as fascinated by this content as you are, those in the former are lame and their opinions need not be heeded.
@-Gadget-
@-Gadget- Год назад
Oiii... I resemble that remark 🤔🤣
@Gengh13
@Gengh13 Год назад
To measure the voltage you could use the high voltage fluke 80k-40 probe for DMMs or the Chinese clones, those probes have an input resistance of 1GOhm.
@gafrers
@gafrers Год назад
I love the ionizer videos I would personally love a guide in choosing a good one.
@channelsixtysix066
@channelsixtysix066 Год назад
Clive, what is weird, one appears to be flesh-colored and seems to fit comfortably in the hand.
@DoctorX17
@DoctorX17 Год назад
I was thinking... What if you had a big grounded plate around the ionizer's output? Would that collect dust only on the plate instead of other things around it? Then you could just have something like a paper cover that you could remove and replace instead of needing to wipe up dirt...
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom Год назад
Some units have a dust collection mat with a slight positive charge.
@DoctorX17
@DoctorX17 Год назад
@@bigclivedotcom I’m going to look for those! Very interested in cleaning my dusty house air…
@getcartercarpark.
@getcartercarpark. Год назад
Put nine 10-meg half-watt resistors in series with your +VE multi-meter probe (assuming your multi-meter is 10 megohm) and set your multi-meter to the 200 voltage range. Now you have a 100 Meg Impedance multi-meter to measure high impedance, high voltage low current voltage sources. You just multiply the multi-meter reading by 10 to get the true high voltage reading, measuring up to 2000 volts. Add more resistors and change the multiplication factor for higher voltage readings.
@JamesW81
@JamesW81 Год назад
I'm sure I've heard of people in the model railway scene using these but modified as static grass applicators. The branded ones are very expensive and these little Ionisers make an inexpensive substitute.
@MrGlenn442
@MrGlenn442 Год назад
Adam Savage (Tested) recently(?) did a video of him doing this at WETA Workshop
@andymouse
@andymouse Год назад
The XO4 smd part comes out of the SMD finder as a 30v Zenner in a SOD-323 package, these things can be a bit hit and miss though....Happy New Year !....cheers.
@hoggif
@hoggif Год назад
Another one with quite some "compromises" on safety. Something like JST-size connector for mains, 1M smd resistor for isolation etc. (smd resistors often have breakdown voltage of say 200V or so, a far cry from making it safe to touch). Especially if you ground the other end (say by a person), there are kilovolts on 1M resistor to help breakdown and after that is can stay more conductive. If that was neutral side it could be more safe but in a non-polarized plug it can be live as well.
@curtishoffmann6956
@curtishoffmann6956 Год назад
"Blunt and long." Any conversation I ever had with my Dad.
@markfergerson2145
@markfergerson2145 Год назад
The microntroller thing makes me wonder if they have a quota of how many they have to use in products, or if they just have so many in backstop they have to use them any way they can. Either way, there must be ways to repurpose them in meaningful uses. Determining pinouts and how to program them would be challenging though. Not that I have any ideas on reusing them but it seems such a waste.
@chaos.corner
@chaos.corner Год назад
They are really cheap (see eevblog's channel - I think he got some for 3c) and are probably not reprogrammable (since that adds expense).
@prk55
@prk55 Год назад
@@chaos.corner Yes, the cheapest are one time programmable but offer various timers, ADC and DAC etc . But not much more (10c or under) are reprogrammable , even offering multi-threading
@chaos.corner
@chaos.corner Год назад
@@prk55 True. But they're shaving pennies so probably best not to expect too much for this application. Also, it can be hard to get hold of the programming tools as Dave from the aforementioned eevblog found out.
@abitofabitofabit4404
@abitofabitofabit4404 Год назад
A 10 cent PIC clone from Fremont Micro Devices could be justified if that transistor is also chopping current to stimulate the tank circuit. That might explain the extra spice, the small transformer, and the SMPS-like transformer primary network. Perhaps Clive might stick a scope on the base and see if there's a bit more going on than meets the eye.
@markfergerson2145
@markfergerson2145 Год назад
@@abitofabitofabit4404 Any excuse to get Clive to break out the sillyscope is a good one. He's way too stingy with it.
@Ni5ei
@Ni5ei Год назад
Ionizer videos are like cowbell: we need more!
@janami-dharmam
@janami-dharmam Год назад
cows need bells because their horns do not work.
@ebnertra0004
@ebnertra0004 Год назад
I gotta have more coronal discharge!
@brucepickess8097
@brucepickess8097 Год назад
@@ebnertra0004 I cleared up my debilitating " coronal discharge" with a three months course of antibiotics from my GP.😏
@phonotical
@phonotical Год назад
It's been a good 20 minutes since you last showed an ioniser 🤣
@chloehennessey6813
@chloehennessey6813 Год назад
I don’t mind what kind of videos you post. So long as you post.
@brucepickess8097
@brucepickess8097 Год назад
"post", yes Clive's video's are always first class !!.😏
@brianallen9810
@brianallen9810 Год назад
De-Schmoozed. I could listen to these all day.
@bdf2718
@bdf2718 Год назад
One reason for using a double-sided board even where all the tracks could go on one side is vibration resistance. With single-sided, vibration of components can cause lands to lift and lead to fractured tracks. With double-sided solder wicks up the plated through holes and the resultant fillet of solder stops the component moving down. Obviously this was designed for people whose mains sockets vibrate.
@tonysheerness2427
@tonysheerness2427 Год назад
Old fashion valve tv's and radios were very good at sucking dirt out of the air.
@Chris_the_Muso
@Chris_the_Muso Год назад
The odd design of the double sided circuit board is most likely because it was computer generated. As long as it works in the footprint they require they don't really care if it's odd or not. If this is getting made cheaply, in bulk, sold to multiple companies, and they did it at EXACTLY the right time to get huge adoption in cheap chineezy products, that's a successful design to a Chinese businessman. Timing is everything - they know if it's very successful it will get copied ad nauseum, so there's no time to make hay like when the sun is shining. Kudos to that businessman for employing an EE who actually knew what he was doing rather than cobbling together some PD design that only kind of works, or just potting a capacitor in resin and calling it "good".
@markiangooley
@markiangooley Год назад
Presumably their circuit-board supplier charges the same for a double-sided board as a single-sided board, so… Just guessing.
@kimchristensen2175
@kimchristensen2175 Год назад
Yea, when they design circuit boards like that they probably just use the auto-router function in the software. Quick, dirty, & lazy. Maybe there is no cost penalty for making a double sided PCB vs a single sided one. I think they didn't put the 10M resistor where you wanted it to be, because then it would still be sort of "on" when the transistor was off: It would then have a very low duty cycle because the 100nF capacitor would have to charge through the 10M resistor for quite a long time before the SIDAC fired.
@pnnielsen
@pnnielsen Год назад
Correct. Most PCB manufacturers base the cost on a double sided design and removing one side doesn't make it cheaper.
@MrNiceGuyMEGA08
@MrNiceGuyMEGA08 Год назад
When I read your titles with "schematic", I hear your voice say it the way you do! Haha, get out of my head Clive! Love your vids, keep it up.
@beefaroni4733
@beefaroni4733 Год назад
that's an uncomfortably caucasian-toned ionizer. why such a fleshy pink.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom Год назад
It's for use in nudist clubs.
@somethingelse2740
@somethingelse2740 Год назад
The printing shop I used to work at many years ago bought a bunch of fairly large ionizers to help with plant air quality. They also hacked furnace type air filters on the intake side because the filthy air was caking onto the ionizing plates in a day or two. Even when new, you could not tell the ionizers were doing anything, the air was so nasty in there. I was usually the one to take the filthy plate modules out of all the units and use compressed air to blow them off in the parking lot. Wasn't my job, but anything to get the air somewhat cleaner. OSHA safety rules would not allow the company to vent bad air outside to improve indoor air because the air was too filthy and chemically enhanced to vent safely. (Might poison the locals.) But those inside? Let them suffer.
@Baggytrousers27
@Baggytrousers27 Год назад
Happy new year from downunder.
@paulwright8378
@paulwright8378 Год назад
They look like tazers
@--Midnight
@--Midnight 26 дней назад
While switched on, touching just the carbon brushes yields no harm.... However if you, "mistakenly" are touching another electrical device that has a grounded metal case, you can get a nice little waullap off the brushes. Not a pleasant experience when your holding a cup of searing hot coffee.
@nathanwallace7072
@nathanwallace7072 Год назад
Happy new year Clive💻
@davidjones2911
@davidjones2911 Год назад
ignore every one who doesn't like the content, we just love you clive!
@SilveniumTheDrifter
@SilveniumTheDrifter Год назад
This!
@wisher21uk
@wisher21uk Год назад
Nice and spicy just how I like it, do videos on whatever you like Clive thanks and happy new year 🥳
@restojon1
@restojon1 Год назад
I ended up going down a rabbit hole some time ago on the broad subject of Soviet medicine and hospital equipment after finding out about a fascinating machine called the Hunter Metatron device. Whilst going down this rabbit hole I discovered what I would describe as a sort of ionising chandelier that were hung at strategic points in hospitals. The thought behind them being that they would stop airborne bacteria from spreading from area to area. According to their (probably somewhat leant on) experts of the day, they did have a positive effect but, I'd like to see some more modern unbiased test results on such things... I also have a lot of time on my hands 😆
@webchimp
@webchimp Год назад
Chizhevsky ion generator PSU full build ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ZLB2UUQ35J0.html
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom Год назад
The chandeliers sound like Chizhevsky chandeliers.
@restojon1
@restojon1 Год назад
@@bigclivedotcom aha, now that rings a bell. Yes. Or, perhaps да. I just watched the video in the link suggested by another channel user and that is an absolutely fantastic project. I home educate my 2 children and I'm just introducing them to electronics so I'd love to build something like that with them. Thank you for all the knowledge you share, it's invaluable. Especially for those of us trying to impart knowledge to young ones
@k4be.
@k4be. Год назад
I doubt the white connector is rated for mains use with all the expected transients and surges. Also there's no slot between PCB pads, even though it looks like it's required for creepage distance, and no input fuse.
@imark7777777
@imark7777777 Год назад
HAHAHA 4. Application, it can be used in living room, bedroom, toilet, office, etc. YES Application = "toilet" does that mean it will work in a toilet?
@theelmonk
@theelmonk Год назад
Sea air is alleged to be healthy and also contain relatively high ozone. Are these true ?
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom Год назад
They thought the smell was ozone, but it turns out it may just have been the smell of organic matter in the water. But I would have thought that crashing waves could generate electrostatic effects.
@athalyerajan2823
@athalyerajan2823 Год назад
It forms after an electrical discharge from a storm. I used ozone in my research and used to generate it that way. Breathed it once yes smells like the beach I ended up in the student health center.
@snakezdewiggle6084
@snakezdewiggle6084 Год назад
5 ~ 6, maybe 7 ionizers per year seems about the right amount. Especially with weird novel boards and circuits. So, Carry On Up Clide Clive ! ;)
@kangaroo7040
@kangaroo7040 Год назад
Ionizers were all the rage when I started work in the 70s. We made many Cockcroft Walton units, using sharp Stellite cable-form nails as electrodes. I recall that the points became blunt quite quickly. The units certainly made a black mess on a wall.
@objection_your_honor
@objection_your_honor Год назад
I don't understand the purpose of the 1M resistor connecting the output to the input of the transformer. Also, ask any of them for their FCC ID and file number, and watch for no reply. All markings are fake.
@fouzaialaa7962
@fouzaialaa7962 Год назад
it seems like you go on cycles of 4 to 6 months every time where you spam something ,and honestly it makes us experts with those things , so far you've had : LED's Ribbon LED's Neon lights power banks battery's from vape pens ionizers it doesn't bother me coz every other video you throw some new information's about them so its fine
@mattfleming86
@mattfleming86 Год назад
Interesting thought for a(some) video(s). Maybe pick a simpler device and show the process of how you reverse engineer something. For the total amateurs like myself it would be highly informative
@dcallan812
@dcallan812 Год назад
I guess the best form of power switch is to unplug it. 👌 interesting bit of Chinese tat. 2x👍
@andrewwilson6240
@andrewwilson6240 Год назад
Yum ozone. Must be safe considering how much there is in the London underground. Even my local trams are quite ozony.
@Mizai
@Mizai Год назад
i love how most stuff you buy is in pink but its even more weird that they offer all these electronics in pink
@chrishartley1210
@chrishartley1210 Год назад
That little chip is just begging to be reprogrammed or exchanged. If it was swapped for one from a lamp it could ionise in an SOS pattern.🤪
@rfakename9396
@rfakename9396 Год назад
Happy New Year Clive. Love you, love your content and wishing you the best for next year 💓
@johnsenchak1428
@johnsenchak1428 Год назад
The 1 meg doesn't go to ground due to it being a shock hazard because of the HV capacitor You want isolation between the primary to secondary
@piconano
@piconano Год назад
I am very lucky. You take apart all the stuff that I am interested in. If anyone is not interested in LEDs and High voltage, they are not interesting people.
@jimnelsen2064
@jimnelsen2064 Год назад
I have a wireless doorbell that stopped making noise. Are you interested in dissecting it? battery operated sensors to mount at the door, and a 110 volt receiver unit that connects via bluetooth to the senders. I would be happy to ship it to you if you want it.
@markgordon4368
@markgordon4368 Год назад
Everyone has their "thing" if yours was "resistors" then people would have an argument 🙄 🙂
@mountiedm
@mountiedm Год назад
I'm on team "more ionizer" I have that exact kind and mucked around with it and without the case they are a lot more powerful. I guess some of the fibers are shorted to the case
@fredfred2363
@fredfred2363 Год назад
Double sided pcbs in China cost the same as single, for SMD work.
@user-mz6qu3hz6m
@user-mz6qu3hz6m 3 дня назад
I just bought a couple of what I thought were these, but it turns out they are completely fake. It’s just a board with some LEDs on it.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 3 дня назад
Where did you get them from?
@markchristopher9515
@markchristopher9515 Год назад
I've 300M of that cable. Wanna build a Whole House unit Clive?
@SilveniumTheDrifter
@SilveniumTheDrifter Год назад
Shmoooooo! That reminds me, I haven't watched AvE in a hot minute....
@navexelac2
@navexelac2 Год назад
Using a micro-controller or a 555 chip fascinates me in devices. I dunno why?
@davelowets
@davelowets Год назад
10:07 A diode to protect the sidac from damage due to a large back EMF spike perhaps?? 🤔
@danwhite3224
@danwhite3224 Год назад
If they wanted an on-off function surely they could've just used a standard rocker switch... It seems so unnecessary to add a microcontroller for the sole purpose of acting as a latch for the push button. In fact, they could've just used a standard latching push button. Really weird.
@robertleifeld225
@robertleifeld225 Год назад
That processor costs less than 1 cent plus 2 cents for resistors and a capacitor
@JessicaFEREM
@JessicaFEREM Год назад
yea idk why they bother with a button. most people are just gonna plug it in and leave it there, only to touch it when it inevitably makes a mess
@Lemonsieur-m4m
@Lemonsieur-m4m 3 месяца назад
Yet Tesla built the biggest of all ionizers ;-)
@Richardincancale
@Richardincancale Год назад
Almost an insult to Alan Turing to use a computer as an on/off switch! An actual switch plus a neon would be safer, simpler and have zero consumption when off!
@mfbfreak
@mfbfreak Год назад
You can debate the 'safer' bit when it comes to the absolute cheapest mains switches you can think of. They're not gonna stick something UL registered or KEMA approved into a cheap piece of plastic like this...
@Dekko-chan
@Dekko-chan Год назад
Also i adore ionizers. High voltage circuits on a tiny scale. I love it
@lasersbee
@lasersbee Год назад
Happy New Year to you and yours Clive....
@jeffm2787
@jeffm2787 Год назад
If I have to watch another ionizer video.......... 😁
@John-mc8sh
@John-mc8sh Год назад
Please share a pointer to a few reasonable or good ones and where to get them one day. There are so many and crappy ones out there.
@mattfleming86
@mattfleming86 Год назад
Blasphemy. All of your videos are good!!
@whitesapphire5865
@whitesapphire5865 Год назад
Oh, I don't know, Clive, I find these Ionisers quite interesting. I have no idea why, I just do, so don't worry about making more videos about them. I don't pretend to know exactly how these things work, but I do see similarities between them, and vintage TV line output circuits - cruder, but similar, and they didn't half extract the crap out of the air, especially in the days when homes we heated by coal fires. I remember seeing wads of soot in the back of some sets, so much so that it was often difficult to see the actual line output transformer. I can still remember that familiar smell of ozone that we used to get, especially on damp days, or if mum was cooking in the kitchen, or on washing days when everything felt just a bit damp. Just a bit ironic really, that we do away with existing devices that generate ozone, and ionise the air as a byproduct, and then go out and buy electronic devices to specifically replicate that byproduct.
@Eduardo_Espinoza
@Eduardo_Espinoza Год назад
Same, this is like magic, it also reminds me of CRT TVs, & vacuum tubes! 😊 I can see why the other unit was made with black plastic now.
@gregorythomas333
@gregorythomas333 Год назад
The "Spicy" makes it fun! :)
@abc-coleaks-info3180
@abc-coleaks-info3180 Год назад
A lot more spice in this video than the usual fare. I like it!
@lezbriddon
@lezbriddon Год назад
wow, what a waste of electronics when a simple on/off switch could do
@efibrown9174
@efibrown9174 Год назад
HV induced spark approx 1mm per 1KV
@Thebigmanmetaldetecting
@Thebigmanmetaldetecting Год назад
just out of curiosity. would it be possible to convert these things into stungun's just wondering if that was the original use/plan for them
@whitesapphire5865
@whitesapphire5865 Год назад
Not at such low output current - unless you wanted to stun an atom sized person.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom Год назад
No. Way too low output.
@kimsleep4111
@kimsleep4111 Год назад
"Blunt And Long" same name as my Toger
@ericpaul4575
@ericpaul4575 Год назад
All that was needed instead of the pic was a real switch.
@richardwernst
@richardwernst Год назад
I wonder why the end was covered with that schmoo?
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