Unveiling the Reality: The Truth Behind PIP Assessments 

Good morning 😊 Hope you are OK. You are right, it definitely turns out to be more stress than its worth. I always say to my Mum that you need to at least grow another head to even be considered for any help.. It is another shitty thing to consider and I have plenty more where they came from 😂 they always seem to be external problems too. I have such a supportive family and a very small but close circle of friends who, as you said understand my MS but also treat me normally but I think that's so important. Although these days I am beginning to spend more and more time with my own company, at least I'm getting to know myself.. Thank you, take care and good to hear from you.

I received a 2 year suspended sentence back in 2006 because of a PIP claimant i was at my local pub when i overheard a girl explaining how much money she was getting because of her bi-poler (firstly i would like to add i don't believe in such conditions such as bi-poler, adhd, autism for example because i believe these are words used by work shy people to get 'free money' on the backs of hard working people) but i digress after overhearing this woman's conversation i asked her 'as i (a hardworking tax payer) didn't cause your alleged illness or the fact i didn't bring you into the world why am i responsible to keep you feed, housed etc why should i pay for your car, tyres, tax, insurance etc to which she had the cheek to take offence at a question asked by someone who works hard to pay her way in life she got very aggressive (not the type of behaviour you would expect from someone claiming to be 'very sick') so in self defence i smashed her in the face with a coca cola bottle absolutely disgusting that i an honest hard working family man now has a criminal conviction because of a workshy layabout

Some valid points there

Hi Charlie, sorry to hear that you had a bad time with it. Not sure if you watched my recent video, but I feel as though things have changed since when you and I both went and I would absolutely recommend you to go ahead and try again. I didn't appeal as like you the stress was too much, but you're right PIP is there for those that need it. Good luck 🤞🍀

I received a 2 year suspended sentence back in 2006 because of a PIP claimant i was at my local pub when i overheard a girl explaining how much money she was getting because of her bi-poler (firstly i would like to add i don't believe in such conditions such as bi-poler, adhd, autism for example because i believe these are words used by work shy people to get 'free money' on the backs of hard working people) but i digress after overhearing this woman's conversation i asked her 'as i (a hardworking tax payer) didn't cause your alleged illness or the fact i didn't bring you into the world why am i responsible to keep you feed, housed etc why should i pay for your car, tyres, tax, insurance etc to which she had the cheek to take offence at a question asked by someone who works hard to pay her way in life she got very aggressive (not the type of behaviour you would expect from someone claiming to be 'very sick') so in self defence i smashed her in the face with a coca cola bottle absolutely disgusting that i an honest hard working family man now has a criminal conviction because of a workshy layabout

Best not even try for this then for MS 🙄😔

@@goddess.110 Like I say I have to go as far as tribunal every single time. MS is incurable, how do they expect me to be any different. They must believe in miracles. I wish they'd send me one!

@@ellie698 it's so bad the whole way its done. I can't imagine your stress.

Well I mean!! It's the truth though isn't it 🙂 gotta say what I think.. Glad I made you chuckle though 🤗

I just think that they should take on board what you are telling them instead of having to constantly justify why you feel the way you feel. You have MS which can give you so many dibilatating problems! Not sure what else they need to understand. Yep, the you look fine is just standard 🙄. Hope you are keeping well x

Hi John, hope you are recovering from your recent relapse. Yes I agree medical assessors should know better! That's very interesting about the no comment bit and thanks for sharing, I think that's a really good idea. So you won't go through the process again as you too felt it demoralising, I honestly think that's the case for most people. Surely it shouldn't be made to feel like this for people and it should be a supportive process?

@@lauraironstalksms honestly Laura, I think it’s all by design. Quite bloody nasty of the government. Someone told me the government do it on purpose & I’ve read a few things over the past few years that confirm that. I didn’t want to believe they could be like that but the evidence stacks. There’s some nice people at those places, but the general population doesn’t get a ‘peak behind the curtain’. Up in these parts people refer to them as the gestapo & the nickname makes some sense I’ve been in a few situations the past 20+ years where these assessor types have a kind of confusing look when I’ve taken time try explain my condition, can recognise that look pretty well now. I used to be in marketing & sales - one on one you can notice the opposite person basically ‘blag you’. Hard skill to lose as much as I would like to forget at times. I don’t think I could ever work in a public facing role ever again, 1 reason I quit my former career years back. Money ain’t everything in life. Last time I went as far as asking “what is your medical expertise?”, to be answered with deflection commentary, the people or persons are embarrassed to tell you their knowledge is limited so can try change the subject & keep it ‘relevant’. It’s an average person with a check list they employ. Let’s be truthful in modern day, if hospitals across the U.K. are struggling to find specific medical pros, what makes you think the dwp has any of them squirrelled away to use for their assessment purposes?? they don’t pay enough lol There’s ways to project one self without looking a-hole. Being complete no comment can look obstructive so don’t keep totally quiet, but don’t need to elaborate much with intention to explain better, the opposite person has limited knowledge of what your trying to explain & you don’t see what they are writing. A 3rd party uses the info they write for judgment. The assessor types desire is to be in control of the ‘interview’ & sadly many people won’t recognise that. Assessed persons desire should always try to make these situations more equal because it’s not a job interview, it’s a ‘medical’ assessment. The dwp are clearly trained the way they are because some nasty consortiums see it as a financial decision. Which is just wrong in my view. So play them at their own game, they aren’t your friends or colleagues, you don’t need to make any effort to ‘impress’ because you don’t choose the situation you can find yourself in. I find people like us can be nice pleasant folk & forget about their personal conduct during certain situations. Sorry long explanation lol

@@lauraironstalksms things are going well health wise. I’m beginning to feel more of myself again with some blips where you are hard on yourself. No point dwelling on the past because it’s happened. Being able to see future self in a better light remains paramount. Just need to move on because it can eat away your well-being. Behind closed doors I can hide & be the depressed + tired etc. Close family & friends understand. Deep down their all that matters anyway

Absolutely true, my family and my very (very) close friends are the only people who really matter when it comes to understanding my MS. My dogs understand it and they don't even talk :-) but they are simply amazing. So glad things are getting better for you and your mindset is in a good place

@@lauraironstalksms yourself & whoever else reads will get through it 👍 Hard part - keeping a positive mindset. Haven’t quite worked that 1 out yet. Seems with MS it becomes harder. Must be all those cloudy bits of the brain that cause those malfunctions. Well that’s what I tell myself lol

Yo Rich, hope you are good. Yep really feel for people who go through this process. I often wonder what they would be like on the opposite end of the situation.

Hi Colin, I didn't go through the appeal process no, but 12 years on I've just gone through the whole assessment process again (this time by phone) I was awarded PIP this time around. You don't need to have extreme symptoms of MS to get PIP support, you just need to be able to let them know how your symptoms affect your daily living and how long they affect you for. I.e 5 days out of evey week. Also is it causing you to take longer to do things than normal? I've never ever claimed anything, I too have worked all my life since I was 14, but now I'm at a stage with my MS where it does affect me and I do need that extra bit of support. If that's you, then I'd say that you should also apply, especially if you have been advised. It's highly admirable that you work, but a lot of people soldier on regardless and have trouble and just end up getting by.

Hi, thanks so much, I found a great website which I think has helped me loads. I had my telephone assessment a couple of weeks ago so just waiting to hear back. It seemed like a totally different assessment this time around and the woman was really understanding. Thanks again, will keep you posted. Hope you are well? I'm off to Ireland next week to see family. Looking forward to it 😊

@@lauraironstalksms I'm doing a sponsored one mile walk for the MS Society here in Belfast on the 10th September. It takes me forever just to walk 20 feet, with the pain and dizziness kicking in immediately, so walking a mile is going to kick my arse. But I'm determined to do it though. My wife and family are going to be with me to support me. They're bringing a folding chair for me as well because I'm going to need it.

That is amazing! Well done you for participating in such a great cause.. I think it's the accomplishment that you'll feel when you've taken part. Go easy! I'm sure you'll smash it. I'll be leaving Belfast on the 10th but I'll be supporting you from the air :-) good luck 🍀

Thank you, second process done now just waiting for the outcome..

Hi Mohammed, hope you are well too. I think you are probably right. I think they are not medically trained in the conditions which they are presented with, and so just go by the information provided. It was 12 years ago so I'm hoping the process might have changed a bit, my next one is by telephone. If only people were more understanding of invisible illnesses. 🧡

@@lauraironstalksms lol I can totally understand you, lots of people become more like robots due to routine, you must crawl in pain before they respond differently 😉. Take it as a good sign though: it means you "M.S didn't win over you yet 💪".

I received a 2 year suspended sentence back in 2006 because of a PIP claimant i was at my local pub when i overheard a girl explaining how much money she was getting because of her bi-poler (firstly i would like to add i don't believe in such conditions such as bi-poler, adhd, autism for example because i believe these are words used by work shy people to get 'free money' on the backs of hard working people) but i digress after overhearing this woman's conversation i asked her 'as i (a hardworking tax payer) didn't cause your alleged illness or the fact i didn't bring you into the world why am i responsible to keep you feed, housed etc why should i pay for your car, tyres, tax, insurance etc to which she had the cheek to take offence at a question asked by someone who works hard to pay her way in life she got very aggressive (not the type of behaviour you would expect from someone claiming to be 'very sick') so in self defence i smashed her in the face with a coca cola bottle absolutely disgusting that i an honest hard working family man now has a criminal conviction because of a workshy layabout

Hello, sorry. I'm in Wales (U.K)

@@lauraironstalksms Thank you for clarifying. These procedures are pretty bad in Ukraine too.