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[UPDATED] F-16 VS PROP PLANES OF ALL TIME PERIODS - How Many Needed To Win? - WAR THUNDER 

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Hey guys! Welcome back to the Thunder with Muffin channel. A new challenge in War Thunder is waiting for you in this video F-16 VS PROPELLER PLANES OF ALL TIME PERIODS!!! Stay tuned!
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@boguskowalik7528
@boguskowalik7528 Год назад
Would be cool if someone took in an ah1h and troll their missiles with flares
@TigerJaeger131
@TigerJaeger131 Год назад
There were some A-1Hs, and at least one of them got destroyed by an AIM-7.
@vitorpilon2014
@vitorpilon2014 Год назад
At 5:05 one propreller used flares
@jtl05
@jtl05 Год назад
there were a lot of them
@jtl05
@jtl05 Год назад
@@TigerJaeger131 aim-9L
@commandergeokam2868
@commandergeokam2868 Год назад
@@vitorpilon2014 yeah that was the A1H Which can carry both chaff and flares
@thepowercreep
@thepowercreep Год назад
IR missiles are calibrated to aim just ahead of the hottest heat signatures, which, on jets, is the cockpit. But Prop planes heat is ahead of the cockpit in most instances, so the missiles tend to track ahead of that, which is open sky. Lower heat signatures also play a factor.
@ThunderWithMuffin
@ThunderWithMuffin Год назад
Oh interesting and thanks for your comment
@Slungus_bunny69
@Slungus_bunny69 Год назад
Fun fact: prop planes carrying rockets can fire their rockets as flares
@finalthemickith476
@finalthemickith476 8 месяцев назад
I wasnt having fun when I read this
@evandowgielewicz5350
@evandowgielewicz5350 6 месяцев назад
Same
@qtippy1414
@qtippy1414 Год назад
How to take down a f-16 with prop plane: step one dive from 2000M above it with fw 190 D-13 step two fire.
@kxrsed9812
@kxrsed9812 Год назад
How are you gonna get 2000m above it lmao
@Europe.Aviation14
@Europe.Aviation14 Год назад
Or just shoot it... from anywhere
@Europe.Aviation14
@Europe.Aviation14 Год назад
I took down 2 f16 in my f4u corsair just from comming behind them
@TheVeryRealCanada
@TheVeryRealCanada 8 месяцев назад
@@Europe.Aviation14bad players or bad plane
@archimedesfromteamfortress2
@archimedesfromteamfortress2 Месяц назад
​@@TheVeryRealCanadahave you considered the possibility of him just being a good pilot
@tizanikandothers
@tizanikandothers Год назад
I'm going to be extremely honest: the event was not fun to play but seeing the video made me realize how worth the pain it was
@TigerJaeger131
@TigerJaeger131 Год назад
Could it be that the radar missiles couldn't hit a target because the props were quite close together, thus confusing the radar?
@aname1612
@aname1612 Год назад
Props usually use less metal and more lighter materials like wood which absorbs radarbetter, not all in this but generally also smaller profile as a prop type engine takes up less space than a jet
@Official_Breslau_Map
@Official_Breslau_Map Год назад
@@aname1612 also because of heat
@thunder_tactics
@thunder_tactics Год назад
That would only be for IR missiles
@switchblade3601
@switchblade3601 Год назад
Yeah i think the swarm of planes confused the missile. Like 2 planes close together can confuse them, more planes = more confusion
@ariq4209
@ariq4209 Год назад
@@aname1612 all the props in the video are full metal
@cheesesniper473
@cheesesniper473 Год назад
A weapons specialist said that no version of the sidewinder would have trouble tracking a prop plane, the exhaust throws off more than enough heat.
@Tanspotty
@Tanspotty Год назад
As a prop plane I'd of took the tactic to instead stick as low as possible cause I've noticed the jets mostly boom and zooming from above. They don't turn well so bringing the playing field to the props having more manoeuvrability at lower altitudes, I'd of stuck low and tried to think of a strategy which gave the props the advantage. Only thing you wouldn't win against is those missiles but guns you could win against
@admiralpavelnakhimov8755
@admiralpavelnakhimov8755 Год назад
Yeah, low flying works quite well against radar, as well as terrain abuse. Pyrenees for example works great for terrain abuse, since you can get behind the enemy team by flanking around to the side That's how I bagged 3 F-5Cs and an F-4C in one go
@merafirewing6591
@merafirewing6591 3 месяца назад
​@@admiralpavelnakhimov8755 noice.
@semajniomet981
@semajniomet981 Месяц назад
I'd think that making the terrain the enemy of the jets would be more efficient as well. It'd probably be more of a deterrent than the machine guns that the turboprops would have. Probably also easier to pull that stunt off in biplanes as well, due to their lower overall speed. Just speaking as a layman. I'm not actually a pilot or anything like that.
@furretthefuzzynoodle3896
@furretthefuzzynoodle3896 Год назад
I’m very surprised so few people picked the A-1H since it’s a prop with flares and chaff
@warthunderclipper
@warthunderclipper Год назад
nobody has it its veyr expensive
@cptfrostbite
@cptfrostbite Год назад
8:43 i died here in that spitfire
@evandowgielewicz5350
@evandowgielewicz5350 6 месяцев назад
Thats sad
@Donut833
@Donut833 Год назад
Really enjoyed this style of commentary. Your other ones kinda feel over scripted/ robotic. This felt much more natural and flowed quite well.
@ThunderWithMuffin
@ThunderWithMuffin Год назад
Thank you! I’ve been working on it
@Donut833
@Donut833 Год назад
@@ThunderWithMuffin Definitely noticeable my man. Keep it up.
@samueljohnson717
@samueljohnson717 Год назад
This is a joke right?
@Donut833
@Donut833 Год назад
@@samueljohnson717 No.
@thetoastmaster180
@thetoastmaster180 Год назад
agreed. didn't feel like a human was talking to me beforehand lol, and the laughs felt extremely forced. glad to see his improvement
@SteampunkPaperTown
@SteampunkPaperTown Год назад
Yoo Muffin! Thanks for letting me in on this game since the shooting of the video i got my F-16 as well. ~VanishedInDeath (Also sorry i didn't get you my side of the combat the replay was being weird for me) Also yea.. That move i pulled at the 2:30 mark, was not the brightest move but, it worked?
@ThunderWithMuffin
@ThunderWithMuffin Год назад
You’re welcome and good job
@BASTION1023
@BASTION1023 Год назад
Loved participating aswell as being in the second round! And to anyone interested ill be posting a raw vid from the second round when I get home. Fantastic video as always muffin!
@sinisterisrandom8537
@sinisterisrandom8537 Год назад
To explain how Fox 2 aka your sidewinder's missiles work. They require a heat signature. The reason why they track jets better is that the heat source is behind the aircraft. While the heat source on propellers is in the front taking almost all of the cool air which helps cool it down after faster speeds. If I got anything wrong for those who served or serving in the Air Force correct me on anything.
@Incah2036
@Incah2036 Год назад
Sort of, kind of lol
@thetoast3889
@thetoast3889 Год назад
it would be much more interesting on a mountainous map where you fly low and have to maneuver a lot
@sackthing986
@sackthing986 Год назад
Now this is what should be on "The Shooting Range"
@sapphiraollivierre
@sapphiraollivierre Год назад
Keep up the good content Muffin!😃
@ThunderWithMuffin
@ThunderWithMuffin Год назад
Thank you!
@neopolitan4121
@neopolitan4121 Год назад
I love watching jet fighters spam missiles for 9 minutes!!! (They still don't know what to do without them)
@CrazyDutchguys
@CrazyDutchguys Год назад
>conveniently ignores them winning guns only round
@shadowknightgaming1874
@shadowknightgaming1874 Год назад
Ya they keep missing because they don't even understand the capabilities of there missiles
@iclimbeverything2990
@iclimbeverything2990 Год назад
thats crazy of the aspect and G tolerance of those missiles. thought i was watching ace combat
@c0ldyloxproductions324
@c0ldyloxproductions324 Год назад
Love how the only plane that can defend otay from missiles is the a1h pumping out that chaff and flairs
@thenathan4490
@thenathan4490 Год назад
Salut, Monsieur. I would recommend a fight between lotsa props vs the Mirage F1C (C, CT, C-200). Would be interesting to see one of the hardest jets to fly fight against props. This also would be an interesting challenge as the Mirage F1C isn't known for its agility. It's acceleration is not as good as some other aircrafts and even a Phantom can almost outmanoeuvre it. Would be interesting.
@asiangaming8409
@asiangaming8409 Год назад
4:57 yay it’s me
@raptorf_2255
@raptorf_2255 Год назад
I think the reason why the missiles couldn't hit any targets could be because the missiles are fired at the point where the prop planes are only 10 few meters away from the f16, as soon as the missile launches with the prop planes being that close the missile will lose it's target
@rdmcfoxinator2131
@rdmcfoxinator2131 Год назад
so my theory on the missles not tracking properly is that some of the prop planes have equipped Rockets to create a shot burst of High Heat. So far I am yet to be killed by missile in my Sea Vixen because whenever i see that Missile indicator I fire a Much brighter AGM for it to track instead. However sometimes the players just switch to guns but i have deterred players from getting me through Energy management and then just peeling off because I wasn’t their first target and therefore wasted their Final missile.
@KingGumps
@KingGumps Год назад
I have an idea for a video, what if you took a bunch of p-36 peashooters and maybe like 3 or 4 b-17s or any suitable bomber and have the massive amounts of peashooters try to shoot the bombers down.
@MrRobschnieder
@MrRobschnieder Год назад
The F-16 has Aim9L's which is significantly better than the F-14s Aim9H's. The L can pull 30gs and is all aspect vs the H only being able to pull 18g and being rear aspect only. So the L has an easier time getting a lock as the engines and exhaust are in the front of the props and being able to pull an extra 12g helps guide it in.
@mayalopez7992
@mayalopez7992 Месяц назад
that gold f 16 , just like you said , ITS SICK
@engchoontan8483
@engchoontan8483 Год назад
2 versus 1 (20mm only) Attack/Defend - Both ways 2xF16 versus 1xBi-Plane (F16 must Attack and cannot hide) 2xBi-Planes versus 1xF16 (bi-planes must Attack and cannot hide) Defend = cannot leave predefined area, within 18000ft Bi-plane rotate-pivot straffling on = belly, top-wing-center, bottom-wing-center, right-wings-tips, left-wings-tips, stand-on-tail, ... propeller = turning radius (pivot) of 20-meters is big bully
@engchoontan8483
@engchoontan8483 Год назад
Imagine a 1km by 1km space for bi-plane within a 100km by 100km space for f16. Watch youtube on bi-plane acrobatics-display. Bi-plane is like a stationary air-turret (seemingly not moving, only twisting and rotating), no matter how you fly the f16, bi-plane, with center propeller and therefore 2x20mm, will always be looking-at you.
@engchoontan8483
@engchoontan8483 Год назад
Understand further = camel-pak and cigar due to air-time all-the-time
@LeroxYT
@LeroxYT Год назад
Another aa Video? Maybe with that german Flakvierling, it has alot of guns..and firepower, against planes, i mean why everytime the worst aa against some good sky, why not good vs good y know...would be interesting
@henrique2456
@henrique2456 Год назад
This video is like putting a Iowa class battleship vs a sailboat
@sandystockmon8561
@sandystockmon8561 Год назад
the lack of heat thery works well with the early biplanes of ww1 using 40hp engins to at best aprox 200 hp, not nearly as mutch as the multi thousand deggree thrusters and jets and rockets the missiles were buiilt to target
@evandowgielewicz5350
@evandowgielewicz5350 6 месяцев назад
It’s probably because most jets have afterburners which makes heat for most air battles because they are not ment to go against WW2 planes
@havehfoxxo
@havehfoxxo Год назад
after 46K+ hours and playing sins 2013 this would be fun sometimes cause i never have any good action then doing the same thing over and over. hit me up of ur doing another one of these this would look like alot of fun
@sukhoisu-27flankerbdude92
@sukhoisu-27flankerbdude92 Год назад
On custom battles the yak 3(ww2 prop plane)is super good at taking down any jet, the f-4S and the A-4E are easy targets to kill
@captainkiwii442
@captainkiwii442 Год назад
im still in the prop planes but after this vid im going to grind like never before
@sawsmsgaming6737
@sawsmsgaming6737 Год назад
You should do 10 new players in f-16s vs 1 pro player in f-16s
@dominicnicolson9865
@dominicnicolson9865 8 месяцев назад
Funny thing is I play top tier with my fren who bought a premium and since I’m at rank 4 I use prop planes and yes we play arcade but I still find it funny that I kill 6 jets almost every time
@AvidAirEnthusiast
@AvidAirEnthusiast Год назад
Early!!! Another great vid
@ThunderWithMuffin
@ThunderWithMuffin Год назад
Thank you!
@thecatbims1795
@thecatbims1795 Год назад
Any Idea when we are gonna see Helis vs Boats
@ThunderWithMuffin
@ThunderWithMuffin Год назад
Next one coming out:)
@benkemp9283
@benkemp9283 Год назад
Video idea A10s vs prop planes with and without AIM9Ls
@tins5074
@tins5074 Год назад
No idea on how, but my friend took me in top tier with the p-51 (20 mm) and i just tanked a r-60
@StealthyShot
@StealthyShot Год назад
Prop planes should be able to bring rockets as flares
@TheRoadburner99
@TheRoadburner99 Год назад
Can you do d day with the allies having modern aircraft and tanks?
@C4T4N4
@C4T4N4 Год назад
And there is 5gen that can go head to head with prop planes in terms of maneuverability at low speeds
@mrwatersheep1828
@mrwatersheep1828 Год назад
Me in my fw 190 A1: shit, got uptiered again…
@Mika-ph6ku
@Mika-ph6ku Год назад
Them props flying like bots
@asiangaming8409
@asiangaming8409 Год назад
Try fighting a F-16 going at Mach 1 speed in a slow prop fighter
@Mika-ph6ku
@Mika-ph6ku Год назад
@@asiangaming8409 Irrelevant; I said they were flying like bots cause many were just going in straight lines and not doing anything to avoid catching rounds from the f-16s when they were making their runs.
@kadenbrown-cobarrubias5510
@kadenbrown-cobarrubias5510 Год назад
this has happened before. theres is video of an f16 shooting down a prop plane in venesalu
@Tir33nts343
@Tir33nts343 4 месяца назад
Jets are made for hit and run, props are for dogfighting
@Пельмень-т7н
@Пельмень-т7н Год назад
Cool
@pdonettes
@pdonettes Год назад
How do you do custom battles like this?
@russell33313
@russell33313 Год назад
JOE, ahahhahaa JOE MAMA
@Nottrules
@Nottrules Год назад
Soon we’ll get to the point where props where lose that maneuvering advantage scary to think about
@indianmetal
@indianmetal Год назад
Can you do the bombers vs modern jets with only guns
@tinymustacheman9631
@tinymustacheman9631 Год назад
Idea: moders spaa vs ww2 planes Or modern helicopters vs ww2 spaa
@redkaven
@redkaven 9 месяцев назад
Pretty sure i searched seal clubbing but I got brought here instead
@Lachlan_adventures-d7s
@Lachlan_adventures-d7s Год назад
Another great video
@DrHundTF2
@DrHundTF2 Год назад
I don’t see a lot of maneuvering, biplanes or Japanese. So yeah, no wonder
@lukewhitehouse4103
@lukewhitehouse4103 Год назад
guess you just wait for the F-16 to run out of fuel
@st-6837
@st-6837 Год назад
Colorized footage of Japanese aircraft in summoning Japan
@bernag1832
@bernag1832 Год назад
The missiles miss because the prop plsnes ars trying their best not to be hit, so they maneuver
@april-wr1mf
@april-wr1mf Год назад
All the F16 really has to do is fly up and sling 9L's down
@ryanp5790
@ryanp5790 Год назад
Those prop players played like brainless bots, not even evading or breaking to avoid the F16s
@Booman-it4yv
@Booman-it4yv 23 дня назад
me seeing them averaging 200 fps while my school laptop struggles to get 20
@Tsunami_fuego
@Tsunami_fuego Год назад
Cant wait to see an aim-9x with a 60g overload
@ridleymain9234
@ridleymain9234 Год назад
I feel like the A2D doesn’t count as a pure prop. It has a jet engine
@55_Ski
@55_Ski Год назад
Put som rockets on props it works like flares
@danielleung275
@danielleung275 Год назад
Could you do every prop plane vs all jet planes
@danielleung275
@danielleung275 Год назад
I haven’t played in a while but I assume that there’s more prop planes than jet planes
@someguy1907
@someguy1907 Год назад
Five F22s Five F35s Vs the entire Soviet airforce from the 1950s and 60s
@op_socks4442
@op_socks4442 Год назад
Suggestion you should do a A-10 vs ww2 tanks
@op_socks4442
@op_socks4442 Год назад
Battle*
@oatmeal_thunder
@oatmeal_thunder 9 месяцев назад
its a bit strange that the a-1h has flares
@HavocAudio
@HavocAudio Год назад
You should do M3 Bradly VS Marder A1
@colonel_cookies_
@colonel_cookies_ Год назад
M3 Bradley's are way better than Marder, he should do M3 Bradley's vs BMP's
@Violent_playz
@Violent_playz Год назад
i wish i had an f 16 im still in byplane territory and those cost dont they
@F16IQAF
@F16IQAF Год назад
Bro is trying to play ace combat in warthunder
@RadiantCataclysm
@RadiantCataclysm Год назад
what is this music? It's freaking epic
@ThunderWithMuffin
@ThunderWithMuffin Год назад
Thanks, there’s a variety of different songs used
@panzer4801
@panzer4801 Год назад
Day 1 of asking muffin to do a video of flak 88s against heavy bombers
@hadesdogs4366
@hadesdogs4366 Год назад
Considering that an f22 raptor SOMEHOW SOMEHOW MANAGED TO MISS A CHINESE SPY BALLOON NOT ONCE NOT TWICE BUT THREE TIME😂😂😂
@alankohn6709
@alankohn6709 Год назад
My problem with the first round is unlimited missiles it's nonsense all it shows is missile shoot plane now if they had been limited to there standard set up missiles till they used them and then guns it might of been interesting. The second suffered from the unlimited ammo problem the least interesting one of these I've seen plus I wouldn't of taken bombers the AI gunners are crap and if your gunning your not flying making you a sitting duck
@dylanbarsum1260
@dylanbarsum1260 Год назад
Try doing an A-10 vs prop planes that would be interesting
@zaneplayswt4436
@zaneplayswt4436 Год назад
Me262s and mig 15 vs f16
@wardogleader3200
@wardogleader3200 Год назад
In the far future.... How many F-16 do you need to kill an F-22?
@Assans202
@Assans202 Год назад
Er du norsk?🇳🇴
@zbeen-ah-lah
@zbeen-ah-lah Год назад
65 miles? They’re using sparrows tho they only have a range of about 20
@hzn...
@hzn... Год назад
6 me262 vs 2 f16?
@TechLoverforever313
@TechLoverforever313 Год назад
War Thunder coming to Mobile ! Android and IOS
@imaheadout8529
@imaheadout8529 Год назад
finaly
@fabiooliveira9314
@fabiooliveira9314 Год назад
Props could win easily if they have some skill, lol XD
@ArchieTalbott
@ArchieTalbott 5 месяцев назад
the f16 is a better aircraft but i prefer the f14
@timetravelingmicorwave
@timetravelingmicorwave Год назад
the missile always know where it is by knowing where it is not
@TheRealStevenSeagals
@TheRealStevenSeagals Год назад
Imagine what one ac130 could do to a naval strike group from ww2
@shadowknightgaming1874
@shadowknightgaming1874 Год назад
Ngl these pilots where kinda dumb they where firing aim9ls way to close the aim 9l has a weird flight path that you have to work around it can turn really well but it can't do that until it's a decent distance from the aircraft
@JadenDiaz-hz8xz
@JadenDiaz-hz8xz Год назад
I wanna be in the next vid please
@ThunderWithMuffin
@ThunderWithMuffin Год назад
Of course, join my discord to receive the announcements on when I do the events
@konstantinriumin2657
@konstantinriumin2657 Год назад
I feel like if props were all well-armed bombers they would have a chance. If they had all been Tu-4, they would have scored enough hits
@SteampunkPaperTown
@SteampunkPaperTown Год назад
The B-29 pilots tried our best xD But sadly we all died
@bismarck7232
@bismarck7232 Год назад
First comment
@drewknowles1223
@drewknowles1223 Год назад
no
@WGB_Boardgamebros
@WGB_Boardgamebros Год назад
You’re third
@deannapersinger2608
@deannapersinger2608 Год назад
Really nobody cares
@ezj2820
@ezj2820 Год назад
Mig 29 next!
@virginitysamurai8083
@virginitysamurai8083 Год назад
would it be cool if the early jet fight with the lastest jet?
@Buttermybumandcallmebiscuit
It would be cool if they used rockets as flare’s
@motosexuel
@motosexuel Год назад
They had to use semi active radar guide missiles
@johammedali419
@johammedali419 Год назад
1st match wasn’t even fun to watch. You CANNOT tell me that first match was x2 F-16 vs x62 props That first match was xInfinity AiM-9L’s + xInfinity AiM-7F’s vs x62 props
@imaheadout8529
@imaheadout8529 Год назад
12:58 YAY i can see myself evading he f-16s bullets!
@colonel_cookies_
@colonel_cookies_ Год назад
And I cans see myself shooting you 😄
@siroglethorpe311
@siroglethorpe311 Год назад
Early let’s go I love these vids
@ThunderWithMuffin
@ThunderWithMuffin Год назад
Thank you!
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