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UPDATED: How to airbrush Vallejo Model Air paints. 

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This is an updated video on how to airbrush Vallejo Model Air paints and how to create my thinner mixture formula.
0:00 Intro
0:57 How I airbrush acrylics
3:56 Thinner Mixture formula
5:32 Mixing paint and see how long acrylics can go
7:40 A key reason I use acrylics
8:18 When paint is to thick
9:05 When paint is to thin
10:45 When paint is thinned just right
11:28 Proper technique for airbrushing acrylics
12:56 Models painted only with acrylics

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@johnjackson999
@johnjackson999 Год назад
Thank you, thank you, I’ve tried your combination of thinner etc and for the first time ever I can now airbrush Vallejo paints with confidence. Many many thanks, I will recommend your video to every modeller I know as a log of us struggle with these paints.
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Год назад
Glad I could help! Post pics abs videos of your builds.
@superggg
@superggg Год назад
Awesome. Your formula works great in a hot and humid environment 🙂
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Год назад
Glad, you liked the video!
@natalebabbo-gunplaanddioramas
@natalebabbo-gunplaanddioramas 9 месяцев назад
Very useful update from your prior video. I started using your mix (but using AK retarder as I do not have the Vallejo one), and it works perfectly. Great tutorial! I do also mix my colors in the airbrush cup and never had problems.
@GarySiddle
@GarySiddle Год назад
Thanks, a great introduction to thinning paint and resolving all the issues I have had previously. Only wish I had seen it sooner and so economical with the paint, amazing.
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Год назад
Glad you liked the video!
@thomasjenkins9758
@thomasjenkins9758 Год назад
Thanks for the video. Thanks for the formulas. Have tried both and they work great! Adding the Future to the mix also saves a step and I can start decaling as soon as I let the paint/mixture/future dry. Thanks again for doing your videos! Tom
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Год назад
Thomas, I do the same thing by adding a drop or two if satin varnish. Future is becoming like gold, so I use it sparingly ha.
@grumpyoldmanxo
@grumpyoldmanxo Год назад
Very nice, and informative video.
@mogensnielsen62
@mogensnielsen62 Год назад
great help - thank you - ive changed my way of thinning my paints - work great.
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Год назад
Hey, I’m glad to hear.
@user-kv9pk9xk7u
@user-kv9pk9xk7u Год назад
Very detailed guide i think i'll give another try for this paints. Thank you. I like airplanes in the end of the video, neat paint job.
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Год назад
Glad you liked the video!
@moisesbursztein2830
@moisesbursztein2830 2 месяца назад
Well, it's a major game changer for me. I have owned an airbrush for many years, but I have seldom used it because of difficulties with using it. After following your recommendations, all that is in the past. Thank you a million for your video. I will post a picture of my model once I finish it.
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 2 месяца назад
I am so happy to hear! Glad my videos have helped you start loving airbrush. I have created a Facebook group, please feel free to post your pictures there!
@nigelv1494
@nigelv1494 Год назад
This works perfectly! Thank you so much for sharing. I've struggled with Vallejo paints drying in the tip so quickly and this just completely eliminated the problem. It also works just as well with the Model Color range as well. I even used it (and your techniques) to thin down and airbrush the thick craft/artist paints. Worked perfectly.
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Год назад
Nigel, I’m glad to hear it worked for you! My only goal was to help my fellow modelers have better results with acrylic. Good to see it’s working:)
@petersmith2112
@petersmith2112 Год назад
A very useful update, thank you
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Год назад
Glad you liked it.
@karljones9357
@karljones9357 Год назад
I’ve had some great results using Vallejo paints and than next time I can’t get it to play nice at all. Your video has really helped and I just wanted to say a thank you. Looking forward to seeing more help videos
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Год назад
Glad you like the video and it was helpful! Next video I’m planning to advance techniques with Vallejo Metal colors. So be on the look out for that.
@michaelcapell790
@michaelcapell790 Месяц назад
Tried this mix and it works perfectly. Thank you.
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Месяц назад
Glad to hear it worked for you! Please post pics of your build in the Facebook group.
@HeavyCreamer
@HeavyCreamer 2 месяца назад
great video, and great solution 70% airflow 30% thinner. you are a life saver
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 2 месяца назад
Glad you like the video. But don't forget the retarder!
@biggestelvis
@biggestelvis Год назад
Dude…THANK YOU. I found your video today, and on a whim I tried your method. Totally works!! Well, like 98% works as I probably need to do some minor adjustments. But still, I can see this will save me from ditching all the Vallejo Air products that have frustrated me for months! Thanks again!
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Год назад
Mike, glad I could help. Feel free to reach out if you have any questions.
@TheGreywulff
@TheGreywulff Год назад
I'm 73 years old. You just taught this old dog a new trick ! Thanks so much for the update. Oh, and you have some really nice builds there. Keep up the great work ! 😊
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Год назад
Thank you, I’m glad you liked it.
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 5 месяцев назад
Thank you for the kind words. Glad you like my channel. Feel free to reach out any time!
@user-gb4xv8fv8n
@user-gb4xv8fv8n 2 месяца назад
Incredible video, this helps a lot!
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 2 месяца назад
Glad you liked the video!
@paulus1412
@paulus1412 10 месяцев назад
just want to say a big thanks to this video. I always had problems with spraying the paints. After few seconds big mess, no paint, tip dry etc etc. All fun gone with airbrushing because of that. So the hobby was still for a few years..... The fun was gone. Found this video few days back and it triggered me. So i had to try this. Grabbep an empty bottle, made the mix. Put 5 drops in the airbrush, 6 drops of paint and it worked awesome!!! The fun is back! No more annoying/fear to paint models after building. So i need to clean the bench now with unfinished models etc :P Also need to try if it works with the vallejo primers. That was also giving me some issues after few minutes of using. So big thanks again!!! 👍
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 10 месяцев назад
Glad to hear that it helped you enjoy airbrushing again! For Vallejo primers, I recommend adding in "Future" or if you are in Europe, it is called "Klear". It helps the the primer go rock hard in 30 minutes and makes it easily sandable. If you use my thinner mixture with vallejo primers, make sure to wait 24 hours before sanding. But to be honest, I have moved on from Vallejo primers to Badger primers. Badger primers thinned with my mixture, airbrush beautifully and go rock hard in 30 minutes. Then you can sand them easily!
@paulus1412
@paulus1412 10 месяцев назад
@@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Will do some testing with the primers :) Used the black primer today but after a few minutes of use it clogged the nozzle. So had to clean that first to prime the other models :P
@scottlinder9882
@scottlinder9882 Год назад
Great video and nice presentation. This will be very helpful. That thinner medium is great stuff. I use it as the thinning agent for brush painting instead of thinner or water. It seems to thin the paint without making it too transparent. I also add a small drop of retarder to the mix. My first airbrush was a Badger and I still have an old 100LG that I use from time to time. I just ordered a Badger Sotar from the sale last week to try out for mottling. Like you I have a lot of airbrushes but for 75 dollars I could not pass it up. Keep up the great work!
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Год назад
Scott, I have a Badger Sotar with the fine needle for detail work. It is a great airbrush and you will love it! Glad you liked the video.
@nickcutting4556
@nickcutting4556 Год назад
Thanks for a great video, im new to airbrushing and this really helps me :)
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Год назад
Glad you like the video and welcome to airbrushing. You will really love it!
@AntaresScaleworks
@AntaresScaleworks Год назад
Found your video while doing some research into mixing the various types of Vallejo paints. EXCELLENT technique and it helped me fix a few problems. Recently I was working on a Star Trek model and laid down a nice layer of primer. Then I used a mixture of Vallejo Mecha off-white and Mecha Model Air White to get a very light gray. I had HORRIBLE fisheye and spotting. After doing some tests I found that it was mixing the two types of paints. After I decided to just go with the Mecha Off-White as my primary color it went on fine. Unfortunately, there's some kind of hardener and varnish in the Mecha line that made masking and painting over it an absolute nightmare, even sanding. Something in the paint made the masking tape not providing clean lines. Same tape I've used for MONTHS on half a dozen models. No problem until I used the Mecha paint. Sorry for rambling. I loved your video and just wanted to share a tidbit, maybe see if you had the same experience.
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Год назад
Glad you liked the video! And Hello to a fellow Trekkie. I can't say I have had the same problem as you. I have been able to mix Vallejo Mecha paints with other Mecha paints, with no problems. I have also been able to mix Mecha paints with other Vallejo paint brands (except for the premium brands). Just my guess....but the bottles you have might have gone bad. The only time I have had a problem is, when I purchased several bottles of Vallejo paint from a fellow modeler who added in paint stirring balls. But he used the wrong type and the stirring balls rusted slightly. This caused all the bottles to go bad. I could not use any of the paints for airbrush or even brush painting. Other then that, I have never had any issues with Vallejo paints of any kind.
@dicksmith3553
@dicksmith3553 Год назад
excellent. thanks for this video. im new and am getting ready to paint a F86
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Год назад
Glad you like the video. Please let me know how it goes with the F-86 and don’t hesitate to reach out if you have any questions.
@dicksmith3553
@dicksmith3553 Год назад
@@arewethereyetmodeling2196 i will. and ill send you a picture. just let me know an email i can send to. im also going to try this formula on cheap acrylics which i have quite a few. hope it works as they are far less expensive. ill probably try after i receive my order for thinner, flow improver and medium. i get this week and ill try on plastic spoons first.
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Год назад
@@dicksmith3553 email me at davisstudent25@gmail.com
@RobPearlman
@RobPearlman 4 месяца назад
This is great stuff! Thanks
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 4 месяца назад
Glad you liked it!
@HGR693
@HGR693 9 месяцев назад
EXCELLENT VIDEO. Thank you for the overview. Can you please demonstrate the proper way to spray, if you have larger model sections to paint, for example when building the DKM U-BOAT 1/48 SCALE. THANK YOU
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 9 месяцев назад
Hey, I am glad you like the video. So I didn't know what a 1/48 DKM U-boat was and had to look it up. Wow, that is a big model, haha. Unfortunately, I don't have a model that big to do a video on. I mostly build model 1/48 airplanes and 1/35 tanks....which are much smaller than the U-boat. I am currently working on a 1/48 Skyraider and that is a pretty big model by airplane standards. Hopefully that might give you some insight. What I will say is, I used repair large paint works. I would recommend a .5mm or .7mm needle airbrush. I would go in section and assemble the painted parts separately. For such a big model, you might want to look at a siphon feed airbrush because it can hold much more paint. Look at a Paasche VL, airbrush artists use it for large paint projects and you can pick it up super cheap. I hope this is helpful. If you need more direct help, email me at davisstudent25@gmail.com
@Howie2025
@Howie2025 Год назад
You are spot on here. I had terrible trouble with Vallejo acrylics initially. Did exactly what you said and perfect results. I thin 50:50 and add 10% retarder, 23 psi in my Iwata Eclipse. I actually put on 14 coats of paint on one model and they went on so thin that it looks like only 1 coat was applied - no detail lost. Excellent video 👍👍
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Год назад
David, glad the mixture worked well for you! And you got it exactly, the mixture helps the paints airbrush well and lay down without hiding the details. You can create different effects this way and get fantastic results with acrylics.
@glui2001
@glui2001 3 месяца назад
As a complete AB noob trying to figure out which paints to get, this is super useful. And starting with water based paints should simplify things for me too.
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 3 месяца назад
Glad I could help you on your airbrushing journey!
@glui2001
@glui2001 3 месяца назад
@@arewethereyetmodeling2196One question. What do you use to clean the airbrush when using this thinner mixture? Alcohol?
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 3 месяца назад
I’m cheap and kind to save money ha. So I use a product called “simple green”. It’s a natural house hold cleaner that goes for $4 in Walmart. It eats acrylic paints. If you watch “airbrush tips and tricks” video, that is what I use to clean out my airbrush.
@glui2001
@glui2001 3 месяца назад
@@arewethereyetmodeling2196 hahaha ok. I know simple green
@modelrestorations
@modelrestorations Год назад
Great tutorial and very well explained. Thank you for sharing - Subd!
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Год назад
Thank you! Glad you liked the video and I subd to your channel as well.
@modelrestorations
@modelrestorations Год назад
@@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Thanks !!
@andrewtibbetts9181
@andrewtibbetts9181 7 месяцев назад
I don’t understand the percentage for the retarder. 10% of the total volume? Because 70% flow improver and 30% thinner already adds up to 100%
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 7 месяцев назад
Hi Andrew, introspect I didn’t explain that properly. So the way to look at is, the formula is 2 parts: 90% liquid + 10% goo. The liquid portion is 70% flow improver + 30%thinner. Hope this clarifies things more.
@MastaBorilla
@MastaBorilla 3 месяца назад
​@@arewethereyetmodeling2196 what is goo?
@kosta6137
@kosta6137 2 месяца назад
If you end up with 100 mls total of thinner and improver, then add 10 mls, or 10 percent medium
@vincentroelofs8908
@vincentroelofs8908 2 месяца назад
​@@MastaBorilla i think he means the retarder..
@tonyromano6220
@tonyromano6220 Месяц назад
Retarder is not needed IMO, I think ratios are good. My test is how paint drop acts on vertical card.
@joekelly3776
@joekelly3776 3 месяца назад
Thanks so much 👍
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 3 месяца назад
You're very welcome!
@bzzboyrc7253
@bzzboyrc7253 3 месяца назад
You Changed my life! OK, that's a little dramatic, but this tip has restored my faith in Vallejo paints. Thanks for sharing your expertise, and relieving the suffering of newbies like myself.
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 3 месяца назад
Haha glad I could help. That’s the point, to help other modelers.
@sergiolaurenzano5957
@sergiolaurenzano5957 11 месяцев назад
Great tutorial. One of best video about it. What should be the dilution for airbrushing model color and vallejo primer. 50/50 or other ?
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 11 месяцев назад
Sergio, glad you liked the video! For Vallejo Model Color, I have another video on my channel. Recommend you check that video out. As far as Vallejo Primer, I recommend not using the thinner mixture. It increases the drying time…which is not something I recommended. To get the best results from Vallejo primer, I recommend adding in “Future” floor polish. It makes the primer go rock hard in 30 mins and also makes it sandable! But to be honest, I have moved on to Badger Stynylrez primers. They are amazing! They go rock hard and super easy to sand. I thin the badger primers with the thinner solution (60:40) at 25psi. And you get good results and a nice smooth finish!
@davidwhyte5918
@davidwhyte5918 Год назад
Thanks for the formula. First time trying it works great. Can you do one or have you done one on spraying vallejo primer and varnish
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Год назад
David, I have a video on how to best spray Vallejo primers, check it out. And as far as Varnishes, I think Vallejo varnishes with Vallejo thinner at 50/50.
@lporiazis
@lporiazis Год назад
Brilliant video and thanks for sharing. Few questions if I may, since you have made me thinking of converting from lacquer based paints: 1. What about drying time and paint durability afterwards (are they easily scratched off or prone to have fingerprints on them, handling in general) ? 2. Does the paint "tolerate" the rest of the modelling procedure, like decal softeners, weathering with oils etc? 3. Which varnishes (gloss & flat) do you recommend to use on top of these, vallejo air or something different?
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Год назад
Thank you, glad you liked the video. Regarding your questions, 1) The paints will dry in about 15 minutes. If you look at my other videos, I handle the paints with my bare hands and no gloves on. No issue of leaving finger prints or paint rubbing off, etc. They are fairly scratch resistant....but this is subjective, because how hard are you scratching the paint? But overall handling and drying time is very good. I painted the entire Bf-109 in about 35-40 minutes. That includes black basing and several light main coats. 2) Yes, the paint will tolerate the rest of the modeling procedure if you have a gloss coat on. I use AK extreme Gauzy agent. I let it dry for 15-20 mins and then use enamel washes with no problems what so ever. I know some modelers recommend waiting minimum of 24 hours. I also use the strongest decal setting solution, Solvaset, and the paint holds up just fine. 3) So for my final flat coat, I go with Vallejo Matte Varnish. I personally think it leaves a very nice Matte finish that is not completely a dead flat. I will say if you decide to use the Vallejo Matte, you HAVE TO LET it dry for 24 hours....no exception. I also use to use Tamiya Flat as well, which goes rock hard in 2 hours. For gloss coats for decaling/weathering, I stick with AK Gauzy agent....but before that I use to use Future. Hope this helps, let me know if you have any further questions.
@shadowrider6427
@shadowrider6427 Год назад
Hi there, I've recently started airbrushing and found this very informative. Thanks for the video! I've had a lot of issues with the paint being very splattered and could not figure out what was going on. Will definetely experiment with air pressure and different thinner-paint mixture ratios. I do have 1 question, you mentioned good trigger control over paint and airflow. The paint part I understand, do you play around with the airflow during airbrushing? With the trigger? I have a H&S evolution so it is possible to also control the airflow. What I've been doing so far is just pressing the trigger down all the way for airflow and then adjusting only the paint flow.
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Год назад
Shadow, glad you liked the video and it was helpful for you. Regarding your question: yes, you must play around with the airflow via the airbrush trigger. Here is some general guidance that might help you. The closer you are to the surface of the model, the less air and paint you want. But as you further away you want to increase the paint and airflow.
@AdrianSampang-gr6hn
@AdrianSampang-gr6hn Месяц назад
Thank you for uploading a lot of informational video which helps us who are just starting to get into the hobby. Would like to get your thoughts. does your thinning mixture work with vallejo mecha lineup? would there be a difference of the paint to thinner ratio?
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Месяц назад
Hi yes it works with mecha line as well! Several modelers have tested it out with the mecha line. I believe that mecha comes in two lines, a ready to airbrush line and brush painting line. For the airbrush line, thin it 50/50. For the brush paint, thin it 80/20 (thinner to paint)
@DS-gk8vr
@DS-gk8vr Год назад
Very informative. I’ve never airbrushed, but want to try. Do I have to use a primer, or can I just spray directly on the model?
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Год назад
DS, glad the video is helpful to you. Funny thing, the most questions I get are airbrushing. So I’m working on an airbrushing video for beginners. So look out for that video in about 2 weeks. But as far as your question; yes I recommend primer. The primer helps acrylics stick, helps find any flaws, and makes the paint uniform.
@rivian4139
@rivian4139 29 дней назад
Hi. Thanks a lot for the share. If possible, could you further explain the amount of retarder used? It is 70% Flow improver 30% Thinner. And then 10% retarder. So if you make 100ml then it means you add 10ml retarder or + 10% volume on top? I am a bit confused with the 70/30/10 "percent"
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 28 дней назад
Hi Rivian, introspect I didn’t explain that properly. So the way to look at is, the formula is 2 parts: 90% liquid + 10% goo(retarder). The liquid portion is 70% flow improver + 30%thinner. Hope this clarifies things more. So you add 90% liquid and 10% retarder=100
@jayluschenat8892
@jayluschenat8892 Год назад
Really enjoyed the video. My go to paint is MRP but I want to switch to acrylics because of the fumes. Have you had any luck with Ammo by MIG paints? I like tho color selection but I just can't get them to airbrush.
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Год назад
Jay, glad you liked the video. My go to paints were the Hataka orange line lacquers. There smell was just to much for me. I have used Ammo paints but it was before I created my formula. But at the time, I was never able to get them to work right. I might have to pick up a bottle and do some testing. Bring that Vallejo and Ammo paints are very similar….I think formula might work on Ammo paints.
@Mr._Gunpla
@Mr._Gunpla 3 месяца назад
Awesome! Do you know if your mixes/ ratios work well with Vallejo Mecha line?
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 3 месяца назад
Yes, they work with all Vallejo paints except with Vallejo Premium....as I haven't tired them yet. With the mecha lines, I believe one line is airbrush ready and the other is made for airbrushing.....if I am remembering correctly. With the airbrush line, do 50/50 thinner to primer. With the brush paint version, 80/20 thinner to paint.
@gregorygoosen7262
@gregorygoosen7262 Год назад
Thank you for this. It works great. What mixture do you recommend for Vallejo primer?
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Год назад
Gregory, I made a video on how to airbrush Vallejo primers. I do not recommend using any thinner mixture with primers. It increases the drying time. I mix in "Future" instead...not sure if you are in the US or Europe, I believe it is called "Klear" in Europe. Mix future with Vallejo primers and this will make the primer go hard in about 20 mins. You can start sanding without the primer rolling up on itself.
@dbroadwayvfx
@dbroadwayvfx Год назад
@@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Future has been discontinued as of Jan 2022. "Looks like Glass" by Deluxe Materials is my replacement for it.
@thesaladoon
@thesaladoon 3 месяца назад
So I bought badger Grey acrylic primer, vallejo airbrush thinner, flow improver and retarder. I am wondering if I need the future in the mix for priming? Thanks for all the airbrush info!
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 3 месяца назад
Hey, so you can do two things to make Vallejo primer more stronger, more airbrush-able, and sand-able. One is to add in Future…but since Future is more expensive than gold…that’s not the best option anymore haha. The second thing you can do to get the best results with Vallejo primers is to use the thinner mixture in my video. It will make the primer airbrush better, less clogging, smoother finish, and most importantly you can sand the primer after about an hour. I recommend 70/30 primer to thinner mixture at 20-25 psi (based on your airbrush).
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 3 месяца назад
I also have a video on acrylic primers on my channel. I would recommend checking it out
@Josa1984
@Josa1984 Год назад
Thank for this video👍 Im new to this and wonder how long i have to wait after a vallejo gloss varnish before i can do wash? I have Both enamel and vallejo wash wich should i use?
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Год назад
Josa, glad you liked the video. In regards to your question, if you are using Vallejo's gloss, you need to wait 24 hours minimum. If you don't wait that long, the gloss coat will start breaking apart. Since I don't like to wait that long, I use AK interactive Guazy Agent. It goes rock hard in about 20-25 minutes. You can apply a wash as soon it goes hard. If you plan to use Vallejo washes, go in small sections and don't wait to long before wiping away the excess. Acrylic washes like Vallejo, once fully dry are more difficult to remove. Enamel washes are easier to remove using odorless mineral spirits but they smell more. I hope this helps!
@Josa1984
@Josa1984 Год назад
@@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Thanx for the info😊 i Also have Tamiya enamel wash
@Josa1984
@Josa1984 Год назад
@@arewethereyetmodeling2196 So i can use enamel wash on acrylic paint?
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Год назад
Yep you can use Tamiya enamel wash over acrylics. Just use a gloss coat first. I recommend AK Intermediate Guazy Agent. Spray it on and wait 20 mins. Then apply the Tamiya wash.
@wolfganggriewatz3522
@wolfganggriewatz3522 Год назад
Very helpfull and good Video Does this method work with the Vallejo Premium Colors (the mixing formular)
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Год назад
Good question. I’m not sure as I have never tried with the Vallejo Premium paints. I believe it should work as they are acrylic polyurethane paints, and the thinner and flow improver work on polyurethane
@wolfganggriewatz3522
@wolfganggriewatz3522 Год назад
@@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Thanks, will test it
@BananaSquare
@BananaSquare 9 месяцев назад
Awesome video to help modellers switch water based paints. May i ask your thinning ratio when airbrushing Vallejo Model Colors?
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 9 месяцев назад
Hi Alvin, I have a video on my channel for thinning Vallejo Model Colors and how to brush paint as well. Check it out, I think it might be helpful to you.
@jackberlien8916
@jackberlien8916 4 месяца назад
Finally, when things are just right, you mentioned "adjusted for temperature". However this is never explained (or else I missed it). I followed the thinning and air pressure adjustments - what compensation do you do for temperature?
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 4 месяца назад
This one is not as big of a factor and so I didn't go into it as much. Temperature affects paint (all types of paint) but that is really more if you live in a very hot place or very cold place. If you live in a moderate climate (say between 60 to 90 degrees Fahrenheit)....honestly its not something you need to really worry about. It would take to long to type how paint is impacted by temperature...I can send you a video that explains it.
@waynecassell9515
@waynecassell9515 Месяц назад
good video. if i use Vallejo Model Color do i just need to thin it a bit more?
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Месяц назад
Hi, yes. Model Color is formulated for brush painting. So it has much more pigment and less carrier liquid. I have a video on how to airbrush Model color using the thinner mixture. I recommend 80/20 thinner mixture to paint.
@LemurKrazy
@LemurKrazy 4 месяца назад
Great mix - what needs to change if I'm still getting tip dry? Compared game air with and without the mix - color is full strength out of the bottle in 2-3 coats. With the mix the finish looks better but half the color intensity at 5 coats. Surprised how durable it is even without primer.
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 4 месяца назад
Hi Lemur, so a couple of questions. First your color intensity should not change what so ever. Unless you are thinning the paint to much and if you thin acrylic paint it becomes translucent. And not sure why you are getting tip dry, you should not be getting tip dry. 1) Are you sure you are following the mixture properly and using Vallejo products? I have found there are problems when you don't use Vallejo flow improver, thinner, and retarder. Just to reiterate that the equation is 90% liquid + 10% retarder. And the Liquid is 70& flow improver + 30% thinner. And make sure it is thinner and not airbrush cleaner. 2) Are you thinning your paint properly, you should be thinning about 50/50 or 60/40 for most of the time. More than then that, your paint is going to be translucent but you can build it up. 3) is your airbrush clean? If you're airbrush is clean, paint can build up in the nozzle area and you will get drying into the nozzle. 4) Do you live in a very hot environment?
@LemurKrazy
@LemurKrazy 4 месяца назад
@@arewethereyetmodeling2196 yes, followed exactly as shown in the video. The thinning is making it more transparent which in turn requires more coats. Using vortex mixer to prep each step out of the airbrush. Used two different airbrushes just to confirm. Yes there was less tip drip but it still happened after about 10 minutes of detail spraying - which happens with all acrylics. Tried your mix with model color, game air and model air using your different ratios. It's ok - these were just my findings
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 4 месяца назад
Interesting. I can go 40 minutes airbrushing no problems. The only other thing I can think off is if you’re work bench the light setup might be increasing temperature and causing drying. Increase the retarder to 20% but keep the liquid portion same. Let me know it goes, email me: arewethereyetmodeling@gmail.com
@magnus00112
@magnus00112 Год назад
Would there be any benefit to just adding flow improver directly into the paint bottle? Assuming you only spray that color?
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Год назад
Magnus, if you plan to use the whole bottle fairly soon. Then there shouldn’t be a problem. But if you leave the bottle sitting with the flow improver inside, eventually it will separate the paint pigment from the carrier liquid and you won’t be able to airbrush the paint anymore.
@magnus00112
@magnus00112 Год назад
@@arewethereyetmodeling2196 I was curious if something like that would happen. Thank you.
@billchron
@billchron 24 дня назад
Hey, I was just watching (again) your video and I heard you mentioned the Hataka paints. I was searching yesterday on YT for videos related to these paints cause I'm interested in using them on my spitfire build but didn't find any thorough/useful (at least what I define thorough/useful) video. I really liked the accuracy of these colors and the wide range Hataka offers. Do you have any tips to give me on their acrylics - Red line like, with what thinners they work best, ratio, airbrush needle and psi. Tbh my airbrush is a very basic,cheap "all in one" kit and doesn't go above 15psi, at 21psi it turns off automatically I think. Thank you very much in advance!
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 24 дня назад
Hi, yes I can give you tips on Hataka Red line. So I tested with my thinner mixture (the one in this video) a while back. The mixture in my video works on all water based acrylics With the red line, I did 60:40 thinner to paint ratio at around 18psi. They worked really well at that range and thinning. Hope this helps!
@billchron
@billchron 24 дня назад
@@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Thank you very much!
@lporiazis
@lporiazis Год назад
Can you please review and make a similar video for the AK Interactive 3rd generation acrylics?
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Год назад
Sure, give me 2 weeks.
@jerrypickard1709
@jerrypickard1709 5 месяцев назад
Would this ratio work for Vallejo model color as well? Not sure as it is thicker than Vallejo air color. Great video, thanks!
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 5 месяцев назад
Hi Jerry, the formula works on Vallejo Model Color but the ratio is different. I recommend 80/20, 80% thinner mixture to 20%paint. If you look at my Banshee build, I airbrush model color to paint the kit.
@jerrypickard1709
@jerrypickard1709 5 месяцев назад
@@arewethereyetmodeling2196 got it, use 80% of your thinner formula to 20% paint. Watched your banshee video and a few more, learned a lot in a short amount of time! Glad I found your channel.
@danielroncaioli6882
@danielroncaioli6882 4 месяца назад
I love my Badger airbrushes. I just can’t get the double action right. That’s why I use the Badger 350 and adjust the paint flow at the nozzle.
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 4 месяца назад
Daniel, the 350 is a good airbrush. I recommend you look at the Paasche VL, it is a siphon feed double action airbrush. But you can use it as a single action airbrush like the 350. It has a roller in-front of the trigger that makes it into a single action. The good thing is about the VL is that it has different options for the needle sizes so it gives you versatility. Plus, the VL is super cheap! You can grab one for 25 -- 30 dollars and it is a tank and will last for a long time.
@amuroray01
@amuroray01 Месяц назад
Hi, really appreciated this video, I have not try out the formula yet, but it will be on my next step on my journey of learning airbrushing. I am a little confused on the formula though: So 70% Flow Improver + 30% Thinner = 100%, how do we calculate the 10% Retarder? Is it 10% of the previous mixture? Or it is rather 70% + 30% + 10%? Like 7 drops of Flow, 3 drops of Thinner and then 1 drop of Retarder? Many Thanks. Any help is appreciated.
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Месяц назад
Hey glad you like the video! I didn’t explain the formula mathproperly. So the way to look at is, the formula is 2 parts: 90% liquid + 10% goo. The liquid portion is 70% flow improver + 30%thinner. Hope this clarifies things more.
@amuroray01
@amuroray01 Месяц назад
@@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Yeah, it does, thanks a lot for the quick response!!!
@dicksmith3553
@dicksmith3553 Год назад
thanks for that info. i will use in the future except however when i use vallejo metal acrylics i use straight out of bottle with my portable airbrush and they work excellent
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Год назад
Dick, glad to hear the video was help. You are correct, do not use the thinner mixture with Vallejo Metal Colors. If you ever need Vallejo Metal Color to flow better, use a bit of Vallejo flow improver.
@johncater7861
@johncater7861 6 месяцев назад
Another question, can you apply automotive polish over Vallejo paints to achieve a high gloss shine similar to what others do over lacquer and enamels? Thanks.
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 6 месяцев назад
Hi John, I have never tried automotive polish on acrylic paints. So can’t say….but for a high gloss finish, you can use the ultimate modeling high shine. There are also other similar products that do the same thing. Are you building a car model? Thus the high gloss finish?
@johncater7861
@johncater7861 6 месяцев назад
@@arewethereyetmodeling2196 thanks for the response. Yes, I am mucking around somewhat on a cheap Tamiya Porsche trying out an airbrush for the first time. Not doing particular well at the moment. Would you have a link for the ultimate shine, please? Thanks for the help.
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 6 месяцев назад
@@johncater7861 here is the link to the Ultimate Weathering products:www.umpretail.com/ I am also including a link to their how to video. I know a lot of car modelers use this but there are other high shine products as well. I only build military kits so never had to use high shine before.ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PT0J7b36_Sk.htmlsi=an2wpEfmvZvhqY_z
@johncater7861
@johncater7861 6 месяцев назад
@@arewethereyetmodeling2196 many thanks again.
@user-fs5yl2ye8o
@user-fs5yl2ye8o Год назад
Would you use the same thinning formula for Vallejo Acrylic Resin Varnishes?
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Год назад
Patrice, I would not recommend using the formula for the resin varnishes. It will make them dry much slower and make them tacky. To thin the Resin Varnishes, I recommend using Vallejo Thinner only at 50/50 ratio at about 15psi. Hope this helps!
@user-fs5yl2ye8o
@user-fs5yl2ye8o Год назад
@@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Thank you!
@nagyabajusz
@nagyabajusz Год назад
Hi! It was a very good video! I've been trying to blow Vallejo for three years. I have 3 pistols at home, two Chinese and one H&S Ultra. All three blow it badly, they spit, the blowing is rubbish. It's like there are small fluffs in the paint, but not airborne dust. I also tried your recipe, but unfortunately it's the same, even though I blow it with mist. The pistols are clean, over the years I've tried to adjust everything, but it doesn't work, I give up :)
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Год назад
Hi, I’m sorry to hear you’re having issues. Email me, and maybe I can help you figure it out. My email: davisstudent25@gmail.com
@andrewstambaugh240
@andrewstambaugh240 6 месяцев назад
Vallejp paints have a congealing problem. If you use a wet pallet, you will notice it immediately. Every time you squirt a fresh bottle, it fights and squirts a congealed snotty bit. I may do this several times before the tip clears up. I believe the problem is they are putting the paints in the bottles too dry, so the air inside is dry enough to congeal them.I think they put just a little bit of gel media in their mix, which is why it gels rather than just plain drying out hard like most other paints. I'm experimenting with squeezing them and sucking a few water drops in to see how many drops is needed on average to eliminate that behavior. And yes, that means that the fancy "dropper bottles" everyone seems to praise are actually a pain in the pertushki for anything other than a wet pallet.
@philmckay390
@philmckay390 Год назад
10 drops or 10 percent is the same thing when your adding to 100 percent filled bottle
@scottrenfer2735
@scottrenfer2735 Месяц назад
Hi, I have a question... I am new to the airbrush. If I am using acrylics and backfilling, and each session isn't very long, after how many painting sessions should I thoroughly clean my airbrush? I want to take good care of this thing, and have zero experience. Thank you so much! Your video has been very helpful!
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Месяц назад
Hey, so I am gonna drive cleaning airbrushes into two categories. Simple clean and through clean. Simple clean is cleaning your airbrush everytime you use your airbrush. Through clean, you should do once a month just to be on the safe side. I have a video in my channel titled "Airbrush tips and tricks" recommend you check out that out for cleaning techniques. Hope this helps!
@roberts5647
@roberts5647 3 месяца назад
I've seen another video (from person also has decades of experience) that recommended the opposite ratio of 80% thinner and 20% flow improver. I'm wondering if the difference is a matter of preference or if the optimal mix might be dependent on variables such as type of airbrush, humidity or something like that? Or perhaps the exact ratio is not very critical?
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 3 месяца назад
Robert, this is a great question. There are numerous mixture formulas out there for Vallejo/ammo, etc. And before I came up with my formula I looked at those other formulas. Here is the key question to ask when you decide which formula you want to use. What are you painting? Yes, you can 80/20 thinner/flow improver to get results. But the problem is, all the other formulas I looked at were short-term solutions. What do I mean by that? You can use the mixture to do short-term airbrushing. And if you are shooting paint rather than airbrushing paint....like Gunpla figure builders do, then these other mixtures work fine. But I go for long periods of time where I need consistent performance....so my goal was to come up with something that would give me consistent results for long long airbrushing sessions. If you look at my 1/32 Bf-109 video, I airbrush for over 40 mins (built was speed up 2x) with no issues. You will not get that with the other mixtures. I know I tested them. The other benefit of creating a long performing mixture is that it also works very very well for short term performance. Lastly, another thing that my mixture does that I only learned about later from professional artists. The three ingredients combined together to form a polyurethane addictive that makes the paint more resilient. This is something that professional artists use all the time to make their paints work better and become stronger. But don't take my word for it, do a test with the other formula and mine. I bet you money the other formula you will get tip drying in about 5 mins.
@roberts5647
@roberts5647 3 месяца назад
Thanks for such a thoughtful reply!
@tonyromano6220
@tonyromano6220 Месяц назад
Took me years to figure out on my own!
@redbones01
@redbones01 3 месяца назад
Tried this formula with 50/50 for the metal colors. Tried at 20psi, with .3mm tip, but I still kept getting dry tip. I need to wipe down the needle pretty often to keep the flow going. Do I need to thin it even further?
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 3 месяца назад
Hi Red, do not use this formula with Vallejo Metal colors. It will make them very tacky. Best way to airbrush Vallejo Metal color is to use Tamiya x-22 at 50/50 and lower psi at 12-15. If watch my other videos, I do a full build of a P-51 using Vallejo Metal colors.
@redbones01
@redbones01 3 месяца назад
Oh wow, really lol? learn new things everyday. I'll go and find some X-22 then. Thanks!@@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@redbones01
@redbones01 3 месяца назад
Your other vids that use the metal colors mention to use just the flow improver for the new formula, which I have. I'll use just the flow improver since I already have that, and see how it goes. @@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 3 месяца назад
@@redbones01flow improver definitely helps! But after testing I found that Tamiya X-20a works best. Do a test with both and see which works for you the best. Good luck!
@chris41952
@chris41952 Год назад
I make my thinner mixture from 90%IPA, distilled water, and a few drops of glycerin. Sprays beautifully.
@BennyCFD
@BennyCFD Год назад
Because IPA has such a low vapor pressure it evaporates much faster than water and is one of the prime reasons for tip drying.
@davidriha3125
@davidriha3125 Месяц назад
Hi thank you for the video and formula receipt. Does this work with 3rd gen acrylics by AK interactive? I have terrible time with those (clogging completely etc). Also is it possible to mix AK thinner, AK flowimproover and Vallejo retarder medium?
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Месяц назад
Hi, so yes it does. I created a Facebook group for acrylic users and one of our members tested Ak 3rd gen with the mixture formula. He was able to get pencil lines with the paint. His post is in the group feed. He did one issue, he used 2 different airbrushes, one worked great the other didn't. A fellow modeler has sent me some AK 3rd paints, I am going to do a test with them and post a video soon (I hope). As far as using AK thinner, flow improver, vallejo retarder. I don't know....but I think it should work. The only issue I know what AK thinner is that you cannot use it with Vallejo paints, it has an ingredient that ruins the Vallejo paints. Hope this helps!
@davidriha3125
@davidriha3125 Месяц назад
@@arewethereyetmodeling2196 fantastic, thans for your reply! I will try it next week so I will post the result here after. One more question - I got the retarder and it is really thick (like honey) - how do you measure it? I can’t imagine to put it in the pipette.
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Месяц назад
@@davidriha3125 so if it’s really thick and foggy it has gone bad. Don’t use it, retarder will go bad by itself fairly quickly if not kept in the right conditions. Grab a new bottle, it should come off pretty easy.
@davidriha3125
@davidriha3125 Месяц назад
@@arewethereyetmodeling2196 So, i’ve just tried your formula for AK interactive 3rd gen acrylics with white crown bottlehead (formula mixed of AK interactive flow improver (black label with orange AK logo), AK 3rd gen thinner (white label, not the one with orange cap and blue water on label) and Vallejo retarder medium). The paint/formula mixture roughly 50:50. It worked on 100%! Perfect coverage, no tip drying and even though my trigger control was just awful (I even let the trigger lose directly from back position) there was no clog no tip dry nothing. So I can confirm that your formula is working with ak 3rd gen acrylics. I cannot explain how this helped me. You literally saved my hobby since I was spraying gunze laquers and it is not possible anymore due to new family members. Thank you and cheers!
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Месяц назад
@@davidriha3125 I am so glad to hear! Please join the Facebook group I created and post your results.
@bryanjensen6095
@bryanjensen6095 Год назад
If you were using Vallejo Model Color instead of Model Air, how would you change the mix? My gut feel would be 70% thinner-mixture to 30% Model Color. What do you think?
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Год назад
Bryan, if you look on my channel you will see I made a video on how to airbrush Model Color as well. And you are not that far off the mark on the ratio!
@eightyonebg
@eightyonebg 9 месяцев назад
Hi! 🙂 Is it okay to use bigger needles for bigger model, in example the hull of a ship?
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 9 месяцев назад
Hey, yes you can use a big needle setup, .5 or .7. Just make your paint is thinned properly and psi is good (bigger needles you typically don't need as much psi, keep that in mind) But to be honest, you really won't need it. If you look at my 1/32 Bf-109 build, I did that entire kit using a .2mm needle. Smaller needle gives you more precise control and it is better to small sections than large. I have noticed that when people use bigger needles they tend to flood the paint. So just be aware of that. Let me know if you have any other questions.
@eightyonebg
@eightyonebg 9 месяцев назад
​@@arewethereyetmodeling2196thank you, appreciate it! Could you give me email or something to ask for advice... I don't want to ruin your video with my rookie questions.... 🙂 Thank you in advance!
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 9 месяцев назад
Sure, feel free email me at davisstudent25@gmail.com
@seanyoung8085
@seanyoung8085 3 месяца назад
Can you store the mix of fluids in the container or do you have to mix a new batch every time you paint?
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 3 месяца назад
Hi Sean, I make a big batch and store it into 17ml bottles (I have like 7 of those bottles) and use it when I need. The mixture holds up just fine. I found a bottle I had forgotten about from 5 plus years ago and the mixture still was good.
@seanyoung8085
@seanyoung8085 3 месяца назад
Thanks so much that’s what I was hoping. And thank you for taking the time to reply. I really appreciate it.
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 3 месяца назад
@@seanyoung8085 of course! The whole goal is to help fellow modelers. Feel free to reach out anytime if you have questions.
@drubipacijentic4139
@drubipacijentic4139 Год назад
What pressure do you use for such a thin lines?
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Год назад
Dr, I use 20 psi and my paint is thinned at 60% paint to 40% thinner. Sometimes I will do 50/50 paint to thinner mixture. A lot depends on your airbrush and it's settings. Start with 20 psi and 60/40 paint to thinner ratio and go from there.
@drubipacijentic4139
@drubipacijentic4139 Год назад
@@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Thanx!
@Josa1984
@Josa1984 Год назад
How long do you wait before varnish on this color/thinner combo?
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Год назад
About 30 mins. I recommend using AK guazy agent for varnishing. It’s really strong and has no effect on acrylics.
@Josa1984
@Josa1984 Год назад
@@arewethereyetmodeling2196 thanx! Yeah i bought Ak gauzy agent
@davidlanham5914
@davidlanham5914 Год назад
Thanks for the updated video.... very helpful information. Picky question regarding the thinning mixture. You state: 70% Flow Improver, 30% Thinner, and 10% Retarder (total 110%). Is that correct, or did you mean 70 / 20 / 10 or 60 / 30 / 10 for the mixture (total 100%)?
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Год назад
David, picky questions are good. 70% Flow Improver, 30% Thinner, and 10% Retarder (total 110%) is correct.
@bryanjensen6095
@bryanjensen6095 Год назад
@@arewethereyetmodeling2196 I'm 110% confused.
@davidglane488
@davidglane488 Год назад
@@bryanjensen6095 so am I 🤷🏻‍♂
@dbroadwayvfx
@dbroadwayvfx Год назад
@@bryanjensen6095 If you were mixing up in milliliters, you'd do 7ml Flow Improver, 3ml Thinner, and 1ml retarder.
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Год назад
@@bryanjensen6095 so easiest way is, of the liquid stuff: 70% flow improver and 30% thinner (do not use the cleaner, make sure it’s the thinner), and 10% added to the total of liquid of the gooey medium retarder.
@trekker683
@trekker683 Год назад
Do you have a thinning rato for game and mecha colors?
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Год назад
Trekker, I have never used Mecha and Game colors….but I think the ratio will be the same. I do have a video on my channel on how to think Model Color for airbrushing purposes.
4 месяца назад
How do you measure the % of the mixture? Do you do it by volume, weight, or just drops?
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 4 месяца назад
Hi, I do it by volume. I have it marked on my bottle from testing and just use that as my guide. Hope that helps!
@johncater7861
@johncater7861 6 месяцев назад
New to airbrushing; have cheap airbrush which seems to work fine; thin Vallejo with water; spraying from a distance and slowly; not happy with the finish but particularly disappointed with the fact that the Vallejo paints don't "harden up" like gloss enamels. As I continue to work on the model, I am left with finger and other marks which cannot be removed. Most of the paints are flat. At what point would you add gloss varnish? Would the gloss varnish harden up the paint?
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 6 месяцев назад
John, if you only learn one thing about acrylics…let it be this: never ever thin acrylics with water for airbrushing. Water thins acrylics but also causes the binding agent to have less adhesion. This is why you’re leaving finger prints in the paint. What might help if you have a hair dryer, use that to dry the paint and that might help. Then add in a gloss varnish for weathering. Be careful with any masking as the paint will be weak. I recommend in the future you prime your model and use my thinning formula in the video and you will get fantastic results!
@johncater7861
@johncater7861 6 месяцев назад
@@arewethereyetmodeling2196 thanks for the response. The model was primed - again thinned with water. Next attempt shall follow your rules and not be such a cheapskate.
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 6 месяцев назад
@@johncater7861 no worries, you don't know what you don't know. You didn't mention in your original message you thinned the primer with water as well. Use the thinning formula to thin the primer in the future, it will help the primer (assuming your using Vallejo primer or Badger primer) flow and not tip dry. Now having said that, you can use water to thin your Vallejo paints for brush painting. When painting small parts, thinning the paint with water (slight bit of water) will help flow the paint better and a trick gunpla/figure modelers use to create variations. I use this technique to paint my cockpits.
@johncater7861
@johncater7861 6 месяцев назад
@@arewethereyetmodeling2196 many thanks.
@user-eq7ql2vq5x
@user-eq7ql2vq5x 3 месяца назад
Very helpful, but the percentages are confusing as others have said. Rather than percentages would using drops be a better way to understand the formula? For example, 7 drops of flow improver plus 3 drops of thinner and then 1 drop of retarder. which is 10 percent of the base mixture. Is that correct?
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 3 месяца назад
Hey so sorry for my belated reply. Unfortunately, I didn’t really explain it well. So hopefully this better explanation makes sense. So think of the mixture as a math equation: 90% liquid + 10% retarder. The liquid portion is made of 70% flow improver + 30% airbrush thinner. Does that make more sense? But more importantly, the reason I did percentages was that people wanted to mix large batches and not just do one at a time.
@danielbear9183
@danielbear9183 Год назад
I have a problem where after I have applied the basecoat of vallejo, I wash with Citadel wash and it has a reaction where it will either dry very shiny and sticky or will even take the paint off the lower layers. Its very frustrating.
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Год назад
Did you apply a gloss coat over the paint prior using the wash?
@danielbear9183
@danielbear9183 Год назад
@@arewethereyetmodeling2196 no.
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Год назад
@@danielbear9183 recommend always putting on a gloss or satin coat prior to decals or washes. Even if it’s an acrylic wash, some of the chemicals can eat the paint….even if it’s enamel or lacquer paint.
@danielbear9183
@danielbear9183 Год назад
@@arewethereyetmodeling2196 i have used citadel washes for years and never had an issue, now I use them after I have painted with the airbrush and it has this reaction. Perhaps its reacting with he thinner/flow improver
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Год назад
@@danielbear9183 run a test and share the results. If you can paint two test pieces. One with the mixture, other without. See if the same thing happens to one or both. Would be helpful for others to learn.
@DarksouIjah
@DarksouIjah Год назад
Thanks! I thought with Vallejo Air..you didn't need ot thin it out. Only maybe use Flow Improver.
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Год назад
You don’t need to thin Vallejo model air if the conditions are perfect. But normally you need to thin for best results.
@DarksouIjah
@DarksouIjah Год назад
@@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Ok great. Thanks for your quick response.
@bonikee1667
@bonikee1667 Год назад
Hey! I have one question.Does water good for thinning model air paints? If its good how much should i add?
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Год назад
Hi Bonikee, I do not recommend using water to thing Model Air for airbrushing. You are not going to get good consistent results. It will not flow well, it will clog, etc. But you can thin Model Air with water for hand painting. Figure painters use water to thin Vallejo paints for various tricks!
@bonikee1667
@bonikee1667 Год назад
@@arewethereyetmodeling2196 so what thinner should i use?
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Год назад
@@bonikee1667 for airbrushing, I recommend using the thinner formula I describe in my video. For thinning in general, use Vallejo thinner. Don’t confuse it with Vallejo cleaner.
@bonikee1667
@bonikee1667 Год назад
@@arewethereyetmodeling2196 okay so i have to buy airbrush thinner,retarder and flow improver
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Год назад
@@bonikee1667 for the formula I created, yes. You need thinner, retarder, and flow improver. But it will completely change the results you get from Vallejo paints
@woody3590
@woody3590 Год назад
I am 66 and just retired. I am doing scale model aircraft. W.W.2. Thank you so much your mixture really helped me plus improved the painting. One question if I may...When weathering and using washes do I gloss coat over the acrylic paint job first then dry and then apply the wash to bring out panel lines and rivits.
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Год назад
Hi Woody, glad you liked the video. As far as your question, yes you must apply a gloss coat and let it dry, then add the decals (gloss coat makes decaling easier), then after decaling you can add another light gloss to protect the decals (if required). Then you can add a wash to bring out the panel lines.
@JoseGarcia-yk3dl
@JoseGarcia-yk3dl Год назад
thanks! wah is the airbrush size? 0.2 or 0,3?
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Год назад
Jose, I prefer using a small needle nozzle setup. Normally I stick with .2mm and sometimes .3mm. But I don’t really bigger than that for painting.
@JoseGarcia-yk3dl
@JoseGarcia-yk3dl Год назад
@@arewethereyetmodeling2196 thanks!
@888wotan
@888wotan 4 месяца назад
What do you think - Could I also use the Tamiya Retarder?
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 4 месяца назад
Never tried Tamiya retarder. Try it and see what happens.
@DarksouIjah
@DarksouIjah Год назад
Sorry but second question.. Do you use the same ratio for Vallejo surface primer?
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Год назад
No problem, ask all the questions you want. So two ways you can go with Vallejo primers. If you use my thinning formula with primers, they will airbrush nicely and leave you a smooth self leveled finish. But the issue is, that you need wait 24 hours as the polyurethane takes that long to go hard. If you don’t want to wait 24 hours, you can mix the primers with Future and airbrush it on. If you use future, the primer will go hard in 30 mins. But the airbrush will clog a bit more while airbrushing.
@DarksouIjah
@DarksouIjah Год назад
@@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Perfect! Thanks again! I don't mind waiting if it means my airbrush doesn't clog.
@DarksouIjah
@DarksouIjah Год назад
@@arewethereyetmodeling2196 I looked in your videos... but didn't see any. Do you have a video on how to properly thin cheap acrylic paints? Like Decoart or Folkart? I tried this Vallejo mix and it worked great on my vallejo paints but seized up on these cheaper paints.
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Год назад
@@DarksouIjah I don't have a video on how to thin cheap acrylic paints. I recommend you not use cheap acrylic paints for airbrushing. The pigment tends to separate and results aren't great. You can use the cheap acrylic paints for hand painting. I use them to paint cockpit dials and buttons.
@DarksouIjah
@DarksouIjah Год назад
@@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Thanks again sir!
@normansmith8184
@normansmith8184 11 месяцев назад
Oh yes! Thank you sir, that was just about as idiot proof (for the likes of me) as anyone can get. Very clear and careful naration. Superb.
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 11 месяцев назад
Thank you! Glad you like.
@glui2001
@glui2001 3 месяца назад
For your thinning mixture formula you stated 70 flow improver, 30 thinner, and 10 retarder. That's over 100 parts. What's the correct ratio for each?
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 3 месяца назад
Hey, that is a good question. Unfortunately, I didn’t really explain it well. So hopefully this better explanation makes sense. So think of the mixture as a math equation: 90% liquid + 10% retarder. The liquid portion is made of 70% flow improver + 30% airbrush thinner. Does that make more sense?
@glui2001
@glui2001 3 месяца назад
@@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Yes that makes sense. Now I’m to ponder how to portion out the retarder. Say we use a drop as one unit. That’d be 7 drops improver and 3 drops thinner for the 90%. To make it “whole” you’d use 1.5 drops retarder? (Gonna have to work out that math later)
@glui2001
@glui2001 3 месяца назад
Oh it’s 1.11 retarder
@Josa1984
@Josa1984 Год назад
How long do you wait untill you can put masking tape on
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Год назад
About 30 mins. I use Tamiya tape and masking liquid to mask. Make sure to remove the tape nice and easily. Don’t rip it off.
@Josa1984
@Josa1984 Год назад
@@arewethereyetmodeling2196 thanks for the tip. Your videos made my first experience With airbrushing a really good one👍👍
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Год назад
@@Josa1984 glad I could help and feel free to reach out if you any more questions. I’m working on a how to airbrush video, keep an eye out for it.
@pahpaw
@pahpaw Год назад
Good evening. 70+30+10=110…so is it 70%+30%+10 drops? Thank you! My grandson (AJ) & I are working together through WWII model aircraft building. Unfortunately…we purchased Vallejo Air, Model Color and Game Color. We can airbrush the V-Air right OOTB. The MC and GC we can’t airbrush no matter what we do. If we thin it enough to spray, it’s colored water… Paasche with .38mm at 15-20 psi. We’re going to purchase the V materials to make your home-brew. MAN I hope we can make it work. We spend much more $ and grandma is going to…. Thanks. Your videos are e x c e l l e n T!
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Год назад
Paw and AJ, I hope you enjoy your build! Yes 70+30+10 is correct. If you look at my Model color airbrushing video I have a ratio for airbrushing Model Color and should same for Game Color. Also, what Paasche airbrush are you using? If it’s a siphon feed you might need to increase air pressure a bit. To see if the paint is ready to airbrush, use the back flush method. Look for bubbles like you get when you blow into chocolate milk. If you need anymore assistance, email me directly and I’ll be happy to help anyway I can. My email: davisstudent25@gmail.com
@pahpaw
@pahpaw Год назад
@@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Thank you! We will email you. I think we are confused. AJ is here all weekend :-)
@user-pp6lp8zi7j
@user-pp6lp8zi7j 3 месяца назад
Quick question: you say the formula is 70% flow improver and 30% thinner, but then say that 10% is retarder medium. Did I mishear the ratios?
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 3 месяца назад
Hey, that is a good question. Unfortunately, I didn’t really explain it well. So hopefully this better explanation makes sense. So think of the mixture as a math equation: 90% liquid + 10% retarder. The liquid portion is made of 70% flow improver + 30% airbrush thinner. Does that make more sense?
@user-pp6lp8zi7j
@user-pp6lp8zi7j 3 месяца назад
Awesome, thanks!@@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@joeskynar614
@joeskynar614 3 месяца назад
@@arewethereyetmodeling2196 So 63% flow improver, 27% thinner, 10% retarder? Probably easier to measure out 60%, 30%, 10% (6:3:1).
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 3 месяца назад
90% liquid + 10% retarder=100. The liquid portion is 70% flow improver + 30% thinner= Liquid portion
@brentwoelk3491
@brentwoelk3491 3 месяца назад
So what if you can't get your hands on any of these thinners
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 3 месяца назад
Brent, if you can’t get the Vallejo thinner/flow improver/retarder. If you can find an art store nearby they will have similar items you can use. Hope this helps!
@jackberlien8916
@jackberlien8916 4 месяца назад
Vallejo recommends 1-2 drops of Flow Improver per 10 drops of paint. I'm skeptical of anyone who says to use 7X that. To begin with you are trying to use a needle that is way too small for Vallejo acrylic to flow properly. Try something more like 0.4mm; then you can thin and use the flow improver according to the manufacturers recommendations. BTW, why would anyone own 50 airbrushes?
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 4 месяца назад
I know what Vallejo recommends and I have spoken to them about their recommendations. Vallejo has even let me post this video in their official Facebook. The issue is that majority of their focus was figure painting and gunpla. When you airbrush figures you don't have to go consistently for 30-40 mins. You shoot bursts of paint, and having a small amount flow improver works just fine. But if you want to shoot consistent paint for a long period of time, you will never ever get results using just a small bit of flow improver. AND it does not matter if you use a .4mm or even .7mm. When you airbrush for a long period of time you will get tip drying even with a large needle. As far as using a needle size two small...you must not have watched my other videos. I don't know where people learn you have to use a large needle set up with acrylics. It is not true at all, I use nothing but small needle setup in my airbrushing all the time because I like the control and there is NO ISSUE WHAT SO EVER. If you watch airbrush artist videos....they all use acrylics and small needle/nozzle setups. I didn't just come up with this formula out of thin air. I am a former professional airbrush artist with 25 years of experience working with print companies and magazines. I worked on this formula for a while and asked my professional airbrush artist friend to test it and tell me what they think. Try the formula and what I recommend and then see if you change your mind and or not. And btw, that is why I have 50 airbrushes. Watch the Bf-109 video and the Skyraider video. Hopefully, that might help you understand and change your mind.
@jackberlien8916
@jackberlien8916 4 месяца назад
The next thing you did was backwash the paint into your airbrush - I don't use the Badger, but with my Iwata and Harder Steenbeck, that forces paint into the body of the airbrush, significantly increasing the cleaning effort.
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 4 месяца назад
The cleaning is the same for all the airbrushes. If you watch my other videos I back flush with every airbrush I have and I have over 50 airbrushes. As long as the needle packing screw (which is hidden with the airbrush) is fine, you don't have to worry about painting leaking into your trigger or such. I also clean my airbrush by backflushing. The only time I had issues is with over airbrushes that don't have solvent proof seals. The seal can break.....but with acrylics that is not a worry. Checking out my airbrush tricks and tips video.
@jackberlien8916
@jackberlien8916 4 месяца назад
@@arewethereyetmodeling2196 It's just not necessary though and results in significantly more cleanup.
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 4 месяца назад
@@jackberlien8916 this is where you are mistaken. Backflushing in no way results in more cleanup. It actually reduces clean up time by removing paint that remains in the nozzle tip section. It forces the paint out and you can clean your airbrush faster. By not back-flushing you will need to blow paint out and that takes more time as you have to keep blowing paint several times over.
@dbroadwayvfx
@dbroadwayvfx Год назад
The only apprehension I have about this thinner formula is that Flow Improver is slightly more viscous than Thinner, and I worry about it being less likely to atomize.
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Год назад
Daniel, I think your apprehension might be unwarranted. In my opinion, flow improver is no more viscous than Vallejo thinner. If you were to remove the markings from each bottle and compare them against each other. I don't think you would be able to tell the difference between the two. Also, if you watch my video....I am able to get great atomization and extremely fine pencil line quality spraying, using a .3mm airbrush nozzle.
@dbroadwayvfx
@dbroadwayvfx Год назад
@@arewethereyetmodeling2196 I'll play around with it. Even though Vallejo says that the Airbrush Thinner delays drying time, I've seen others mention the exact opposite. That Airbrush Thinner is a drying accelerant. I'll experiment with your method, as well as some others. Thank you.
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Год назад
@@dbroadwayvfx Good luck, let me know if you have any questions. And as far as drying time, you should find that everything is drying in about 15-20 minutes time. You can even tape over your model (gently of course). If you look at my Bf-109 build video. I first painted the underside and then taped some areas on the topside and airbrushed both sides in under 30 minutes. No issues what so ever with any of the paint being wet. Just make DAMN sure to add a primer first.
@stanstewart5283
@stanstewart5283 Год назад
One small grammatical error. Too instead of to. Example “too much” instead of “to much” Great demonstration and information.
@valerijkoval2904
@valerijkoval2904 23 дня назад
70%+30%=10%=110% !!!)
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 22 дня назад
So introspective I didn’t clearly explain myself. Here are two ways which might help clarify things: The way to look at is, the formula is 2 parts: 90% liquid + 10% retarder. The liquid portion is 70% flow improver + 30%thinner. The retarder is just the retarder. You don’t need to be precise with the retarder portion. If you live in a colder environment you might only need 3-5% retarder and the rest liquid mixture. But if you live in a hotter environment like me, you probably want to do around 10% retarder. The thing I want everyone to note, you have to have all 3 ingredients for the formula to work effectively. And here is an even more simplified way: 7 part flow improver, 3 parts thinner and 1 part retarder
@DarthRust
@DarthRust Год назад
I'm fascinated by the small nozzle size; seem to go against a lot of tribal knowledge that Vallejo is a large pigment and needs a bigger nozzle the same way Stynylrez does.
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Год назад
Darth, I don't know where this "Vallejo need bigger nozzle" thinking came from either. In my opinion, acrylics work better with a smaller nozzle as they do not cover like enamels/lacquers. Now having said that, I definitely recommend using a bigger nozzle with Stynylrez, like a .5mm or .7mm. Or you will get clogging issues.
@USALibertarian
@USALibertarian Месяц назад
So what is the exact formula exactly?
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Месяц назад
Hi, introspect I didn’t explain that properly. So the way to look at is, the formula is 2 parts: 90% liquid + 10% goo. The liquid portion is 70% flow improver + 30%thinner. Hope this clarifies things more.
@lelongg2588
@lelongg2588 10 месяцев назад
70% Flow Improver + 30% Thinner + 10% Retanger as you said = 110% ?
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 10 месяцев назад
Hi LeLong, so there are 2 parts to the equation. A liquid part and a goo part. The liquid part is 70% flow improver & 30% thinner. So the equation is 90% liquid portion to 10% goo.
@JRossHunter
@JRossHunter Год назад
70% +30%+10% = 110%
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Год назад
Yea, I should have explained that equation better, ha. But hopefully it made some sense to you?
@JRossHunter
@JRossHunter Год назад
@@arewethereyetmodeling2196 I think I know what you were trying to say. I'll give my understanding a try. Thanks for the video.
@woodybear8298
@woodybear8298 Год назад
70% flow improver + 30% thinner + 10% Retarder = 110%? That needs to be clarified.
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Год назад
Yea, I should have explained that equation better, ha. But hopefully it made some sense to you?
@neilgilbourne6754
@neilgilbourne6754 7 месяцев назад
1 litre of the other two and plus 100ml of the other.
@user-pp6lp8zi7j
@user-pp6lp8zi7j 3 месяца назад
In your video
@MrFish1968
@MrFish1968 Год назад
You got a 110% mixture.
@arewethereyetmodeling2196
@arewethereyetmodeling2196 Год назад
Yes…math is not my strong suit haha
@pauka13
@pauka13 Год назад
Interesting fact that non acrylic and acrylic paints are equally bad for your health, regardless of the smell. What is more, odorless acrylics give a false sense of safety because of their very user and home friendly properties. I highly recommend to use spraybooth or at least a proper respirator when you spray these paints.
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