@@CallMeRabbitzUSVIa dedicated camera is more capable for those who need it, and just better for the soul. Nothing beats manual exposure controlled by physical clicky knobs through a big, bright viewfinder.
Guilty! Instead of a $3,000 mirrorless camera that does everything I need I have a dozen $50 - $500 cameraphones and digicams that each do one thing somewhat competently but are horrible at everything else. Just the way I like it.
Thanx, will definitely try it because the purple tint issue is MUCH more prominent and not really fixable in JPEGs but it can be fixed with flat-field correction in RAW DNGs. So I think the same would be true for recording "regular videos VS raw videos using Motioncam" although I haven't tried it yet.
Yeah, I wonder why phone manufacturers don't implement magnetic attachable lenses design, especially if they position themselves as a photo-oriented company like Red or Leica 🤔
I like the idea of including it into a comparison video. To actually look at the difference in quality between a telephoto prime lens mounted on a C-Mount+adapter/speedbooster VS on a DOF-adapter VS on a real entry-level camera. Added it into my To-Do list 📝
I'm looking for a way to remove the built-in IR filter glass without damaging the sensor but it's very hard to reach it through the round hole of magnetic coils (VCM actuator) in camera module.
Brooo first thanks for this amazing video. The idea of making a phone with a big camera lens has been in my head for more than 3 years and believe me your video is one of very few the covers this topic. I was thinking about using a samsung galaxy note 4 cuz it's cheap and can shoot 4k video and you can add in a costum ROM and try some big canon lenses and maybe later you can add in a special motor to add auto focus . Good luck bro 💪 ❤
Big thanks! I chose Aquos R6 because it's cheap and has big 1-inch sensor + the camera bump is centered and can be disassembled and drilled without back plate being completely destroyed. My next 'victim' will be Aquos R7 because it has even better 47.2mp 1-inch sensor and can record 4K 120fps which is somewhat a rare feature even for regular cameras 🤩 There are already motorized C-Mount lens made for cctv cameras, I wonder if it's possible to connect them somehow via Type-C and add code to open-source camera app like Open Camera to support autofocus 🤓
@@ModAndShoot or rig up a diy version of the dji Lidar focusing system ? a cheap ultrasound sensor to calculate depth and a motor with gears to spin the focus rings all while being powered by the phone or a power bank
@@infinityproductionssl9532 I like your idea, but this phone already has additional monochrome camera for depth measuring so I think it would be easier to dig into Open Camera source code to figure out how you can read that data and transfer it to the motors.
I heard Sharp didn’t utilized the entire 1 inch sensor with the built in lens. Now, you can access the full sensor, though the software may still crop it thinking it's the original lens.
The funny thing is, at the standard 24mm, both the Sharp/Leitz and Sony are cropped into the middle 12MP. They use the same sensor. But the Sharp can zoom out to ultrawide at 19mm, using more of the 20.1MP sensor. The geometries get wonky at ultrawide, though, which is why they both crop in for the regular shots.
What an inspiring idea. It looked like you mounted the C-Mount adapter using a super-strong epoxy glue. For example, on my full-spectrum-converted Lumix ZS-3, I used Gorilla Weld to mount a 49mm filter adapter to the regular lens allowing me to use regular IR filters on the camera. In Europe I've seen the same kind of epoxy glue under a different brand name. My video is titled: "Converting compact digital camera for Infrared or Full Spectrum photography with filter mount" As for developing a camera for C-Mount lenses, the Raspberry Pi ecosystem has a module which can do that. But, the downside is there's not a good camera software package for the Pi, that I'm aware of. Maybe a Pi running Android? The advantage this has is that it's compact, and the phone can run a wide range of apps including image manipulation apps.
Thanx! I drilled a hole ~25.4mm in diameter in a "camera bump" which is aluminium/plastic sandwich rectangle covered by protective glass layer (it can be removed and drilled without damaging the whole glass back plate). So a C-Mount is screwed very tightly into this hole which already holds it pretty well and only then a glue applied for better fixation. I will make a video describing these details so everybody can mod their own device 🔧
@@ModAndShoot Thank you for this video. I have been wanting cell phone makers to do something like this for a long time. I look forward to your video showing how you made this. I'd have to buy another phone to do this also, I don't think this would work well on my S23 Ultra. I have liked and subscribed because I like this video so much. Thank you!
Will definitely do it - I shoot photos only in RAW because the purple tint is not really fixable in JPEGs so I think the same would apply for "regular video vs RAW video" although haven't tested it yet.
@@iDeLeo007 there are already many "C-Mount to full frame camera lens" adapters available, I'm not sure it would be beneficial to 3D-print them unless there is no specific adapter existing yet.
This would be an interesting tool for social media production pipeline. You'd get similar quality image of a regular camera but without the hassle of transferring the files.
This is such an interesting project! Thanks a lot for sharing it with us. Also, if I understood well, your moded phone doesn't have an infrared hot mirror? If that's the case, you should try some infrared photography! It's really fun.
@@ModAndShoot an old one yes, but it should have a big sensor to begin with... This however gave another idea about how those tiny lenses could pair with old digicams. That Tamron got great results !
@@PitNeex yes, that Tamron gives very clear and sharp image results and is small and easy to carry around so it's my default lens when I walk through the city doing street photography. It almost feels like it was made to be mounted on a smartphone 😄
@@ModAndShoot Yes Yes I'm already saving up to buy a R6 please release the tutorial soon, I would like to see the r7 version too maybe when I'm done saving up money, you'd have come up with a tutorial for r7 too, Hope I can buy one before this video blows up and people start buying phones with one inch sensors to do this mod, cheers mate
In my opinion, it's a brilliant concept, and I love Xiaomi's approach, but it's disappointing they didn't take it beyond just an idea. People suggest just getting a mirrorless camera, but here's the thing: phones are way more compact, and 98% of the time, I have my phone with me. Plus, a phone serves so many other purposes. If a company perfected this concept-using a single 1" or 4/3" sensor with interchangeable lenses, instead of multiple small sensors-it could be a game-changer. Even if the phone came with just a basic 24mm lens and other lenses were sold as add-ons, I think a lot of photography enthusiasts would appreciate that option. Take the Vivo X100 Ultra, for example-it’s using a larger sensor for its telephoto lens, making the phone bulkier anyway. So, eventually, this kind of solution is what companies will aim for as they push the limits of smartphone photography.
pretty cool for a hack. But getting a second hand top DSLR from some years ago will give you better control, handling and image quality and you can still adapt the unique and/or crappy lenses
Considering this video came days before the iPhone 16 pro release, I can sense something interesting coming. I hope you make more of these sensor mods with point and shoo cams and so on , you earned an subscriber!
There is no comparison. iPhone uses a super small Tele sensor with a size of around 1/3.06" which is basically the size of a selfie camera sensor not a flagship Tele one. The only phone that can compete at the moment is the Vivo X100U with a 85mm 1/1.4" which is best tele on any smartphone currently available out of the box. Btw if you use Gcam on that Sony it's also much better depending on the scene.
Awesome video!!! I really wanted to do this on my own but I'm too lazy and I don't know how to do it. But you made it and the results are incredibly good! I want to see those future comparisons
I didn't know how to do it either so the first smartphone's camera module was damaged beyond repair 😄 Then I took a bit different approach so the second smartphone survived and was a successful transformation 🤖
Just saved this video to watch later. Having the phone screen be the native screen would be so nice. I love my sony but sometimes the screen is not enough, Im looking at getting a monitor for it but this is such a cool idea. Ive got a couple older phones laying around. Might have to start a project soon..
@@ModAndShoot Absolutley! I have a Samsung A71 5G with a 64MP that I am curios to try this on. I had upgraded so I dont have a use for it till now. it does have multiple cameras though would that be an issue? I am assuming they all run off the same large sensor but this is pretty new to me
@@PapiJonk each camera has its own sensor, you should focus on the biggest one. A71 cameras are placed very close to each other so there's a chance that a C-Mount will simply block secondary cameras view, but I can not say that for sure without proper measuring just looking at the pictures. What's good is that A71 has a plastic back plate so you can drill it easily unlike the phones with all-glass body. In the next video I will give some advices on how to do it properly and minimize the risk of damaging so stay tuned!
@@ModAndShoot That was absolutley a concern of mine. Im wondering if (depending on the location of the 64MP sensor and the video sensor) it would both possible and logical to try and make the mount with a lockable slider. Then you can attatch a lens and move between the two sensors? I wouldnt care too much to not have the other ones except maybe macro, but I think that could be taken care of with a macro lens on top of the 64mp right? I will definetly be looking out for the next video, you've got me super interested in this haha
I wish phone manufacturers would create a camera setup like this. If the mount is standardized on phones, manufacturers would no longer have to worry about lenses anymore. Let the consumer buy what THEY want. I made a similar video talking about the same idea of replaceable lenses. Maybe if Nokia returned, this sounds like them. They were always on the bleeding edge of design.
I love my ancient Canon G5-X Mark 1 which used to fit into my jeans pocket and has a nice EV-F and an F1.8 4X zoom lens - perfect travel camera so I bought another spare
I have a Huawei P20 and a P20 Pro just for my love of monochrome sensors (worth it), now I gotta take measurements on the P20 and do the math. Great vid.
Nice idea, especially considering that those devices with camera modules not centered but aligned very close to one side of the phone body will need something like a custom 3D-printed phone case anyways to hold the C-Mount.
I went to your profile to see more videos and cannot believe this is your first video on the channel. I am looking forward for more. Would love to see your thoughts on the DOF adapters as thats the simplest route for layman like me.
Thanx! I'm planning to buy some "C-Mount to Full Frame" adapter + a SpeedBooster and then compare the same exact lens on DOF versus this setup, should be fun.
This video should have much more view. This project will be really fun to try. The process to remove the original infared filter with non reflect filter should be quite tricky to do without damaging something though, at least with my shaky hand haha. What a great video. Keep it up!
You are right - looking at the internals I'm not sure (yet) how to do it without damaging the sensor. I wonder if it helps if I just add an additional filter glass on top of it and how it will affect the image quality. Thanks for your support, it gives me motivation to explore this concept even further!
@@ModAndShoot I did read a bit and most of the respond is not good for stacking infared filters. It will block more light to the sensor but we can increase exposure,... to compensate I think. Also we have no idea what kind of original filter is for matching filters. It's kinda hard to find good combo to stack them because of the filter transmission and the wavelength problem. I think we should try alternative way like high transmission film or coating that non reflect too. This project will be much bigger if we use other phone with different sensor, so this will be a long and fun project to dig on
Will try stacking it anyway as the least intrusive way to check the theory about the missing anti-reflective coating being the reason of this purple tint. If it helps, then we can decide how to apply it the best way, probably replacing the built-in glass somehow. But I suspect it might as well be a baked-in camera module library algorithm trying to process Aquos R6 unique 19-mm equivalent lens which gives a lot of light in the center but not much around it. Anyway, I will post a video with a step-by-step instructions on how to modify a smartphone so maybe somebody will do it on a different non-Aquos device with a different sensor/lens and share their results with our modding community 🤖
Very, VERY cool! 1. Do you know if there are any lens mounts for 1-inch type sensors that use a faster bayonet-style mount instead of the screw-in C mount? 2. Would you be able to pair this with a phone with a working Gcam (Google Camera) port with active modding community? I love the quality and control you can get with Gcam ports and they have lots of great computational features built in.
Yeah, this is what Leica really should have done if they try to get into smartphone market - give us possibility to use it as a photo camera with interchangeable lens! They could make them magnetically attached and make a ton of cash selling lens and accessories.
@@ModAndShoot Of course man! I'm interested to see what you come up with, this is an incredible concept- would it be possible to implement some kind of night vision into a smartphone sensor? I think that would be a pretty cool watch for sure. 😁
@@Pottybirdouble if I remove a built-in IR-filter glass it would improve night shots - that's how the night vision cctv cameras doing it. But for now I'm not sure (yet) how to remove it carefully without damaging the sensor.
@@ModAndShoot Ah, I see! That's genius, actually- I'm sure once you have the means to do so, you can totally do it! Hell, if I were smarter, I would buy an old/useless phone to try this on. Have a nice day!
@@Pottybirdouble thanx, actually this process is not that hard after you figure out all the possible issues and how solve them. I will make a tutorial on how to do it so you can experiment too while minimizing risks of damaging the device.
I would definetly recommend c mount Sony TV zoom 20-80 mm f2.5 zoom lens or if you are willing to spend more you could try m42 Meteor 5-1 17-69mm f1.9 zoom lens I was also wondering if there will be any insteuctions or further info on how to make it, because I absolutly love the idea, dreamt of this being a thing and I have some c mount lenses which I dont have a use for
Will it be possible to take a lens from a old camcorder or something similar for variable zoom and install in this, as those are made from small sensors, i wanted to do something like this for quite some time, but didn't want to break a phone😂. Anyways looking forward for more of tour vids.
C-Mount is great because there's a big variety of industrial-grade lenses to buy including variable zoom models. Probably will buy one in future to test against the best zoom-oriented smartphones on the market. Thanks for your support, I'm glad you like this concept!
Thank you very much for the video.❤ And thank you, RU-vid, for recommending this video! This is exactly what the platform is for - sharing creativity and innovation with the world. I’m sure your channel will grow, and you truly deserve it! I’ve subscribed and will follow along on this journey with you. And plz add the portrait mode test with human as a subject when comparing with iPhone or Samsung, if you can 😊
in times of magnetic mounts, I always wonder why apple or any other brand does not give us this option, with tiny lenses which one can mount via magnet. Less bulk, no screwing. They could make the sensor still with a little protection glass on top and done
That's crazy, right? They are desperately competing providing only slight difference in minor features and specs but overlook a huge opportunity to revolutionize a smartphone photo market and make a ton of cash selling magnetic lens and accessories 🙄
I screwed the C-Mount in all the way into the body and then tried screwing in these lenses to a different levels. So I figured out I should add a 1mm circle spacer to get almost perfect flange distance.
I drilled a hole ~25.4mm in diameter in a "camera bump" which is aluminium/plastic sandwich rectangle covered by protective glass layer. So a C-Mount is screwed very tightly into this hole which already holds it pretty well and then a glue applied for better fixation. I also added 1mm round spacer to get almost perfect flange focal distance so the lens do focus to infinity.
recuerdo que el último dispositivo de samsung con apertura variable es la linea s10 lo e probado y para fotografía nocturna es una delicia junto con la opción de raw
really interested in this, I want to see really cool cinema lens on this setup, subbed, can't wait for mode videos like this! A 15 pro iphone with Apple Log - omg that would be amazing. Too bad that's going to be freakin' expensive to do!
Awesome! That's why the next video will be step-by-step guide on how to do it. I want people to try it on different devices and compare our results. I really hope a purple tint issue is present only on Aquos devices due to the lack of anti-reflection coating on IR-filter or their unique 19mm all-in-one lens processing algorithm.
Amazing thing! I was thinking about the same idea very recently. Also good job with the whole video. Could you provide details, what kind of c-mount you use and how it is glued to the phone? That would be wonderful.
Thanx! I drilled a hole ~25.4mm in diameter in a "camera bump" which is aluminium/plastic sandwich rectangle covered by protective glass layer. So a C-Mount is screwed very tightly into this hole which holds it pretty well and then a glue applied for better fixation. I will make a video describing these details with links to all required parts and spacers so everybody can mod their own device.
That would be cool to try, I'm planning to buy some "C-Mount to Full Frame" adapter + a SpeedBooster and then compare the same exact lens on this setup VS DOF-adapter VS on a real camera.
as someone who has just got hooked on the M39/L39 screw mount lens system and canon 7 range finder, i would love to see some LTM glass on that thing. dont think u are getting any of the collapsible lecia lenses on there, but canon, nikon, voiglander, lecia, and a few soviet clone shops made great glass for that system that is pretty small. my canon 50 1.8 does not look to much bigger than the fuji lens you used.
Please do more videos! Very cool. Just as an FYI, there were a few smartphones out there with variable apertures, can't remember them all right now though.
@@cabbelos thats a diffêrent concept, and the use of wireless display will never be as good as physical connection, or in this case, no connection at all.
@@cabbelos there's a new and improved version that was on Kickstarter or Indiegogo that looks very promissing. the only downside is that it only support some manual lenses.
@@ModAndShoot keeping my eyes open 👀 Also have you ever heard of back-bone gear? They mod c-mount onto gopros, and once tested out a mod for the sony xperia 5 II, though they never officially sold it.
Thanks, didn't know about those phones, very interesting devices. I like the trend of Chinese manufacturers adding variable aperture to more and more of their smartphones. Also the camera bump in those seem to be easy to drill so I hope somebody will try modifying them one day 🤠🔧
Hey, check out my Instagram, I've posted a short test video there today. It works well if you shoot in RAW with force disabled built-in vignette-correction. But now I'm working on developing lens-correction profiles and applying them in a convenient way to fully compensate for that disabled option.
i did the same thing with a samsung galaxy s7 a few months ago used a 300mm canon lens to capture amazing images of the moon and like you i was inspired by the xiaomi phone gteat work
now this is why i pay my internet bills ..great experiment i would recomend u to also include video performance using pro video apps for android like mcpro24fps , motioncam pro .. keep up the work ..cheers
great. may be needs software adjustments (mod camera app or other), adding infrared block filter glass may not solve the pink color problem. That's what I understand from testing the Mi 11ultra in the same way with various lenses. In my test there was also another problem....the strong color in the middle was getting pale/faded towards the edges. I tried posting on the forum but there was no response
Try MotionCam RAW with force disabled vignette correction + manual color temperature + flat-field correction in post (if needed). Can you share more details about your device? Do you also use C-Mount?
@@ModAndShootThanks for the information. I just read it. my friend told me this two days ago and I tried it. It's true... the pink is gone (although the deep color in the middle still remains). i also found a suitable gcam, lmc 8.3 or 8.4 with leica filter on. orcan also increase the black level. one body with 2 mounts....I installed a CS mount and a Sony E mount. This is for all Infinity CCTV lenses (the only difference between CS and C mount is the distance to the sensor, the thread is the same. CS is 12.5mm and C is 17.5mm). Also so that the Sony E rear lens glass doesn't hit the mount threads. If the C lens that I want to install has a distance of 17.5mm to the sensor, I just need to add a Macro C extension tube (adding 5mm from 12.5mm). this is what it looks like ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OhNq2IIUYvc.html I created a 'direct sensor' group on Facebook. just to document the process and be creative. many people are interested and follow. Many have tried it with their smartphones... We sometimes look for the cheapest way.... the plastic rear lens cover is attached to the case as a body mount 😁.
@@ModAndShootThank you. There will be significant progress if someone understands software programming and is willing to share solutions... (like for example, gcam mod developers.... maybe they will understand the solution)
