I live in France and have just returned from a 5k km round UK trip, when in N Wales I stopped off at Gasit depot and bought the same system as you. I installed it in their car park! Very easy. Unfortunately here in France all Total garages refuse refilling even with external connection! That said, there are no probs with supermarkets and other stations.
Good tip ref Total. I'm pleased to learn that there are plenty places (supermarkets) in France that are hassle free for interior fills. I've just installed the Gas It kit. Can you point me to what others are okay with an in-locker valve ? TIA
You may well get prevented from filling like that at a garage Albert. Their a bit funny about it without a fixed filling point. But worth a try I suppose. ATB, Steve
Yes, I know some countries are funny about these sort of things. It's perfectly legal in the UK and pretty much all of Europe as for as I'm aware. All tanks and fittings are manufactured to European standard and tested to exceed usage, so I'm confident their good enough. ATB, Steve
I fitted a Gaslow system with in locker bracket and was fine in most places and then went abroad and in some garages was refused gas as i had to open my gas locker. It didn’t matter how hard i pushed the point that I wasn’t filling and ordinary bottle they bluntly refused to turn pump on. I was told this may happen but risked it anyway. I have now moved the fill point to outside the locker and have had no further troubles. I hope you don’t run into the same issues, it would appear some don’t like to see you opening a gas locker. Happy travels. Keep them coming. Your videos are always so informative.
Great video, enjoyed it very much. I'm going to give this a good del of thought. Our mh is a 2000 Fiat Ducato Bessacarr E605, double locker size. Cheers
Great piece, thank you kindly for sharing, friend. Could I ask how you are getting g on finding lpg stations, please? I did a search and there are 3 stations within 45 miles of me, the nearest being 25. Plus, when I visited them, they are attendant-operated and will fill ONLY lpg cars, not caravans, campers or bottles. Am I missing a trick here? I like the idea but am concerned that there seem to be so few stations and all so far will not allow me to fill bottles or my caravan. Do you know if there is still a ban on refillable gas bottles on the channel tunnel? When we investigated an imminent Scotland holiday route, there were virtually no stations on the entire route. I don't want to spend the time and money on this conversion to find I have nowhere to fill up, filling bottles is forbidden or refillable bottles forbidden altogether. As you have used this set up for possibly a year, now, could I seek your advice, please, friend? Thank you.
Hi George In hindsight it was probably a mistake to go with refillable LPG... Filling up in the UK is now very difficult. However, in Europe it's easy, at petrol stations everywhere. Regarding the tunnel, they just check to ensure your gas is turned off before you go on the train. It is not banned. Since this video I've gone all electric, taken out the gas and been using only battery power for the last five months in Europe. Video here; ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WanDz2P98XY.html It's hard to tell what's gonna happen with LPG in this country? good luck ATB, Steve
With any gas installation or device, you have to be so careful. When my dad moved into his house, I insisted that he had a Carbon Monoxide Alarm and Smoke Alarms and fitted them myself. He wasn't keen on the idea at all for some reason, that was 30 years ago. He has since asked me to renew them over the years, as you will probably know and to everyone else reading this, they should be replaced as directed (They have an Expiry Date on them, for what year they should be replaced). Please check the Expiry Date on yours, everyone! You only have to look at the house fire last week, where the 'On The Busses' actress, Anna Karen died at home in a fire. These awful things can so sadly happen to anyone, you can't be too careful. Keep up the good work, I always enjoy watching your videos and I hope to see the next one soon. Cheers! RIP Anna Karen 🙏 ♥️
We opted for the refillable bottle too but went with the Safefill option ,same sort of thing but the filler is built-in to the bottle itself. We found this option could also be used and filled away from the van.
Hi Pete. I believe a lot of places are refusing to turn the pump on if they see there is no clear filling point that is separate from the bottle..? But I can see the practicality of your setup. ATB, Steve
@@TheWrinklyNomads You can get more of an oily residue with autogas LPG. I once had a regulator that oiled up and had to be replaced. Not fun when you’re on holiday. I’ve now fitted a Truma gas filter and it stops any residue. The filters are very easy to change. Not had a problem since. You need to shop around for the Truma as prices vary a lot.
Hi Problem is that bottled calor gas is getting more and more expensive, plus harder to find. Seems to always be out of stock? I intend travelling Europe and calor is practically non existent there. LPG is all over the place. 10 refills will return my money and as we intend living in the van, this will be recuperated quickly, then it is very cost effective and convenient. ATB, Steve
Hi, I have the same Motorhome as you and I’m looking at installing the GasIt. Do you know if the 11kg bottle would fit in the gas locker. Thanks, Wayne
Hi Wayne I'm not certain really. On the GasIt website they give all the bottle dimensions for each size. I took the top cowling off the bottle I have to make it fit easier and more accessible as well. ATB, Steve
Hey 👋 can i ask why you didnt go for twin bottle? I'm looking into maybe changing my setup from our normal type bottle here in Norway to refillable as I just bought a 2006 MH. But it seems wise to have 2 11kg and not just 1, what's your thoughts on this?
I have upgraded the propane on our camper over the last year that we have had it. It came with 2 20 lb tanks. I bought 5 30 lb tanks to replace the 20 lb tanks. I put an automatic change over regulator on it so we would not run out of propane in the middle of the night. I just plumbed the new generator into the camper propane system and can now run the generator off of the two tanks on the camper. Last weekend we used about 35 lbs of propane. During the hot summer with the AC, we typically use 60-80 lbs of propane. I always take the 5 30 lb tanks and a 20 lb tank or two if we are cooking on the grill or running a catalytic heater or fire pit outside in the evening when we are drinking whiskey and beer.
Fine tutorial folks - you completely covered everything one needs to know for a single, straightforward gas conversion, loaded with comprehensive explanations and the all demonstrations were spot on, guys you missed nothing ! Definitely well done, just what I needed to give me the confidence to do this myself. I did enjoy it, it was so useful. Ta 👍
Also if you have a feeling you might have a leek you can add a good squirt of washing up liquid to a cup of water and use a new 1" paint brush and brush the watery liquid around the fittings, that too will bubble like a good one if there is a leak.
Excellent video. Just one question what fixings did you use to secure the filling bracket as I'm having difficulty choosing a location as I can't get access to the other side of the holes to fit the nuts. Only thing I can think of is using rivets.
Hi Paul, The gas locker is a fibreglass shell, but it's set inside a wood framework, so I was able to simply screw it down with wood screws. ATB, Steve
Hi very factual and informative video. I wonder if there are rules in Europe whether refilling must be on the outside or if it is okay on the inside of the LPG space. Thanks .
Hi, As far as know, it's perfectly ok to have either fitted. I have even seen some van conversions where the back door needs to be opened and then the gas storage box before you can fill up....! ATB, Steve
In the Netherlands it's not legal to use lpg for cooking or heating. ( it happens but illegal) Only official certified instalated for the use of running engines cars and motor homes.
Fantastic video, great information, I'm a gas engineer my self, have LAV and RPH qualifications, but don't do any work with them as most my work is domestic with both natural gas and LPG, I've just learned lots from you, thank you. May start me looking into this niche market.
All good, and im a gas engineer, you did a good job, dont think i will convert my caravan yet as the only problem i can see is the lack of lpg in garages, as there are less and less lpg cars on the road they will give up holding it, or so i am being told.
Thank you. I don't see LPG disappearing completely, but it is getting less in this country. I think providing you plan ahead it shouldn't be a problem.
Thanks very much for all of your excellent videos. I'll be fulltiming on the continent in my Hymer b584, and I'm looking at all of the upgrades that will save me a few euros in the longer run. I'm having a 2kw Autoterm heater installed in a couple of weeks which, as it'll be plumbed into my diesel tank, I will leave to a qualified installer. Refillable bottles, however, I will attack myself thanks to your video! Take care - from a new subscriber!
@@TheWrinklyNomads have a great time in Auz!! I'll be based near Avignon - I still work as a travelling private chef. Hope to run into you sometime. Happy travels to you!
I fitted a gaslow system to my motorhome many year ago and each time I changed my van I moved the system on. I’ve two bottles and an external filler but that’s just my preference. What I would very strongly advise is you do away with the flexibility rubber hoses and fit flexible stainless steel hoses. I advise for two reasons first they’ll never need replacing and second, which I feel is as important they don’t leach plasticiser into the gas which eventually can lead to a sticky residue that can get into the gas appliance. “Well documentedon line”. Although now retired, I was a gas engineer for many years and saw a number of problems caused by these rubber hoses, Mainly in domestic house installations that ran on propane gas. The third reason is stainless flexible hoses are much safer. We have traveled extensively throughout Europe and find it very easy to fill will road gas a petrol station all be it not all have gas by any means. Don’t forget those hose are working on quite high pressure’s and if you do stick with them they must be change at regular intervals, something that most people over look. I had an incident in France on an aire when a Frenchman came screaming over to us that his van was on fire, fortunately I carry a fire extinguisher and race to his van to extinguish the 🔥 coming from his gas locker. For my troubles and the expense of a fire extinguisher, I was rewarded with a bottle of his awful wine! I’m fairly sure it was a split hose but how it caught light I never found out.
Some interesting and very good points there Wobby, In my case the hoses are GAS IT branded E67.01 specification thermoplastic LPG gas pipe ( Class 1 ) Under the latest R67 regulations these Thermoplastic LPG hose are used to carry liquid or vapour out of the cars gas tanks and on car engines that use Autogas applications ( LPG ). They are not just a rubber hose. But specifically developed for LPG and very strong. But, no doubt like you do, I use several gas detectors (one inside the actual gas locker) and carry a good fire extinguisher. Safe travels Steve
Hi pal bit of advice please I just bought a motorhome and it has 2 of them bottles in bit they never showed me how to use it so you turn the bottles off when filling I know it might seem a daft question to some but I'm new to this and don't want to get it wrong great video by the way
I tend to turn off at the motorhome regulator valve first, then open the main bottle valve and fill up. Once the pump has cut out, disconnect and close main bottle valve. I also give the valves a little spray with leak detector, just to be double sure nothing is leaking. Hope that helps Steve
Hi Rottie, It has a distinct smell but it's not a very strong smell. You would notice it but it could be easily passed off as 'just a, 'strange odd smell'.... Obviously i have gas detector alarms just in case....
@@TheWrinklyNomads Nice one. You can't be too careful! When my dad moved into his house, I insisted that he had a Carbon Monoxide Alarm and Smoke Alarms and fitted them myself. He wasn't keen on the idea at all for some reason, that was 30 years ago. He has since asked me to renew them over the years, as you will probably know and to everyone else reading this, they should be replaced as directed (They have an Expiry Date on them, for what year they should be replaced). Please check the Expiry Date on yours, everyone! You only have to look at the house fire last week, where the 'On The Busses' actress, Anna Karen died at home in a fire. These awful things can so sadly happen to anyone, you can't be too careful. Keep up the good work, I always enjoy watching your videos and I hope to see the next one soon. Cheers! RIP Anna Karen 🙏 ♥️
Thanks for this excellent video, everything explained really well and in terms that all can understand. Also, well done for highlighting the safety aspects. The pigtails have a date of manufacture printed on them and I'm told should be replaced every 4 years. We fitted refillables, 2X 11kg, 7 years back for travelling in Europe. It's so easy and cheap, the only way to go. Swapped to an underslung tank 2 years ago, even more capacity and freed up an extra locker. Please keep the great vids coming. Stay strong and stay safe 🖖
Thank you for your kind comments. Yes, the pigtail has been replaced and is still in date... The LPG is more of a backup for us really as the master plan is to be primarily all solar electric. but that's for another video.....👍