UPGRADED Lost Caverns of Ixalan Precon Gameplay | Beckett Brass VS Hakbal VS Pantlaza VS Carmen

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@garypearce2753 7 месяцев назад

Two showings of the merfolk deck on the channel both times it had such an explosive start. Nice to see precons nowadays having such a good power-level. Really helps new players getting into magic and not being so far behind casual pods power-wise.

@JEL625 7 месяцев назад

That's mostly the merfolk commander. Explore is probably far stronger than wotc intended. Hakbal is a 4 mana 3/3 ceeature that also serves as ramp, draw, draw again, and has a lord effect that makes slivers jealous all on his own. He's the epitome of board wipe or bust if dropped on curve.

@Houororoiocoaonoe 7 месяцев назад

Every channel I've seen playing the precons so far merfolk has popped off really fast cause of Hakbal.

@skykur 7 месяцев назад

@@JEL625 explore is fine. Exploring 3 to 4 times a turn is insane

@Abraktil 7 месяцев назад

the merfolk feels like chulane it's a bit too much

@emilysmith2965 7 месяцев назад

Crim kept forgetting to draw his card for turn AFTER the Twilight Prophet trigger. It does actually draw you an ADDITIONAL card, not just draining off the card you’d draw anyway. It Bobs wrong. It’s a great card!

@remembertobreathe66 7 месяцев назад

It's to be expected from a player used to green and white. Drawing extra cards isn't usually in their wheelhouse.

@tymcsian 7 месяцев назад

He's a fucking idiot..between him and Seth idk how the fuck that channel is alive

@DiscardatRandom 7 месяцев назад

@@remembertobreathe66he also plays nissa and every deck and that doesn’t draw cards

@gibbysg8143 7 месяцев назад

I believe you have to resolve the full trigger of the merfolk commander before resolving any other triggers. Every merfolk exploring is a single trigger, so the benthic biomancer getting a counter and looting wouldn’t resolve until the other trigger fully resolves

@UltimateLoaf 5 месяцев назад

Yep, this is true.

@zeto9334 7 месяцев назад

I saw Crim, and knew this was going to be some nutty Grixas upgrade shinans

@razorskatermax35 7 месяцев назад

I thought he was a selesnyia player

@zeto9334 7 месяцев назад

@@razorskatermax35 man, he's the best Selesnyia player. Can't wait to see him brew his next top-tier GW deck!

@DiscardatRandom 7 месяцев назад

Nah he loves simic

@sparklingwiggle22 7 месяцев назад

This might be my new go to content. There is just the right amount of banter and the games flow well with the editing. Some channels I feel have WAY too much banter that’s unnatural and just people trying to hard to laugh at anything, the game is super slow and you don’t even know wtf is going on in the game. I was able to follow throughout this game. Great content and more of my type of play-style also!

@jfrizzell6645 7 месяцев назад

This crew has polished their editing of the gameplay just right. Plus the great mix of players they rotate in and out each week as well as mix of types of Commander they play keeps each episode nice and minty fresh - nothing to ever get tired of or any one person to get annoyed of!

@haroun1760 7 месяцев назад

Love the casual edH games you do and pre-con battles are my favorite, y'all are great players and it is great to see what these decks can do standard and with a small upgreat.

@guilhermeviana3669 7 месяцев назад

Maybe would be better to keep Akroma's Will for some protection, but that's ok. Amazing game, guys! So excited for Pantlaza!

@alexmcgregor8658 7 месяцев назад

I love aaron's budget upgrades

@TheGrifcannon22 7 месяцев назад

No bias here

@ColorwaveCraftsCo 7 месяцев назад

Hey, you look familiar!

@cryoboy 3 месяца назад

Especially putting in another lord to give your merfolk islandwalk and then taking out the big smily boy that gives your opponents islands ...

@Zaeylo 7 месяцев назад

I really enjoyed seeing yall play the precons out of the box, and then upgraded a few times!

@ljlk8583 7 месяцев назад

45:10 when a creature an opponent controls dies while you control both yahenni and patron of the vein, I believe that you will get both triggers, getting an extra counter on yahenni. I could be mistaken, but Patron of the Vein isn't a replacement effect, it's a triggered ability (unlike leyline of the void). I tried searching online for a definitive answer but couldn't find anything, but I'm pretty sure you would still get the death triggers even when patron is on the battlefield.

@juand9989 7 месяцев назад

I agree with you, is worded as a triggered ability.

@matthewcapaldi 7 месяцев назад

Yes patron of the vein is not a replacement. It doesn't say, "if a creature would die.. Exile it instead." It says "whenever a dies" so that creature did indeed die, go to the yard, then got exiled from there

@boobajew3812 7 месяцев назад

I love games where every deck gets to go off

@chaelsonnen1 7 месяцев назад

I love the upgraded precon videos!

@wmhburgess 7 месяцев назад

Crim constantly getting smacked because he didn't realize Zephyr Singer has vigilance felt so bad.

@LilSenwolf 7 месяцев назад

sleeved up a new deck and couldn't help but think about how nice one of those gamegenic boxes would have been to have cause oh my god the slippery sleeves

@jamesgorospe990 7 месяцев назад

Maybe I'm tripping, but I think Crim believes he can only crew on his turn, but you can crew at anytime. This also means when you crew, the artifact creature is gonna go back to being just an artifact at cleanup step.

@Abraktil 7 месяцев назад

he just forgot to crew in response to the fight

@Temzilla2 7 месяцев назад

42:48 the patron grew all maddy's vampires (and exiled the bronzebeak) as well. And patron would cause skeleton crew to trigger as well since it's a triggered ability that removes the card from a graveyard.

@MTGfiro 3 месяца назад

your commander games are fun to watch,. ty!

@Dorion37 7 месяцев назад

I cannot recommend enough putting Wildgrowth Walker into the Merfolk deck.

@mistermastermind528 7 месяцев назад

Yeah. Might put one in mine since it lets your survive the game longer. Good thing I already have some copies from my standard mtg days.

@johnathanrhoades7751 4 месяца назад

It’s a nightmare in the best way.

@NikoNikomedes 4 месяца назад

What about Shadowed Caravel

@JohnSmith-ov5ee 3 месяца назад

I can see this being so good omg.

@elliotbanbury6442 7 месяцев назад

Now that I’m here first I just wanna say I love the spike feeders

@Porlakh 7 месяцев назад

Loving the merfolk deck... Pretty impressive...

@Guevon_Pajaro 7 месяцев назад

love the upgrades!!! great game with swings

@hoid7 7 месяцев назад

I love the Gamegenic stuff. I know them from your videos and have bought a few products and they are so good and high quality. I just wish it was more easily available in the stores near me.

@lightfut 7 месяцев назад

Me: hmmm, Crim hasn't done much fuckery this game, seems weird Crim: proceeds to do crime Me: ah, there it is

@ColorwaveCraftsCo 7 месяцев назад

He gets so much joy out of it too 😂

@tomireland3644 7 месяцев назад

fun game overall and Crim is *so* damn entertaining whenever I see him as a guest here or on LRR content

@markh6827 7 месяцев назад

Crim cracks me up! 😂 “I love green mages” “I play Selesnya” “Never played blue” “Grixis is new for me” Hmmmm…. 😅😂😅

@NickLyttle 7 месяцев назад

Crim on The Spike Feeders? Love the crossover !

@thedevilcomes2011 7 месяцев назад

Sup Spikes :) Hai Crim!. Just started watching the ep, I like the changes you made Aaron, will be interesting to see how they play out. Would be interested to see an upgraded manabase version of the precons with these changes. Looking forward to picking these decks up from my LGS (my set's already waiting for me) on release day.

@TheSpikeFeeders 7 месяцев назад

Let us know what you thought of the changes once you finish! :)

@northraptor 7 месяцев назад

Merfolk deck seems sweet. Great game.

@patchytheunpatchable 7 месяцев назад

I always trip over Pantlazas name and read it as Sun-Flavored. The deck sure looks spicy.

@mastokbreedtbg1398 7 месяцев назад

Cordial Vamp for the new. Love those curly locks

@ArmageddonAsh 7 месяцев назад

Anywhere to see the upgraded deck lists?

@ThatGuy_LarryG 7 месяцев назад

Good game. Carmen, Cruel Skymarcher I think needs more sacrifice edict effects in it to get more value from her.

@TheSpikeFeeders 7 месяцев назад

Yeah Carmen is sweet. I think I'll be putting a handful of the cards from the precon into my Elenda Build. :) - Maddy

@themagicmindset10 7 месяцев назад

Been building Carmen in various ways to see which is the best/I like the most. Carmen is a maniac, I love her so much! Ranger captain of eos does work! Also tragic arrogance and promise of loyalty seem really strong. I’m also smashing token generators that are cheap enough to help me pump out Carmen quickly and they also trigger Carmen when sac’d. Great synergy! Oh and her art is 🔥. Reminds me of old magic art, nostalgic AF!

@hiddenleaf414 7 месяцев назад

Something small that got missed that in this game that made no difference but can in the future is trying to stack Pantlaza's trigger at 38:13. If decide to do Ghalta's trigger before Pantlaza's and a creature like Topiary Stomper comes in, the Stomper's ETB can't be stacked under Pantlaza's that was already on the stack beforehand.

@TheDrunkinfox 7 месяцев назад

New to the channel, where can I find the decklists for this video?

@robertglover2676 7 месяцев назад

Lol Crim's intro is hilarious. I'm not sure he can name a card in green or white off the top of his head

@ricogarciaperez4734 7 месяцев назад

Did you all misscalculated the Shared Animosity trigger? If 5 Creatures attack they get +4/+0 not +5/+0 ... the attacking creature get +1/+0 for each OTHER attacking creature that is attacking.

@thedevilcomes2011 7 месяцев назад

Good Game Maddy!

@blakechagnon8837 7 месяцев назад

Could you guys maybe put the cards up for another second or two and make them bigger. Much love from CT can’t wait to see how the channel grows :)

@lelandwhitehead56 4 месяца назад

I must have missed something- how was Mist Dancer cast at instant speed @31:44 ?

@sebastianseemann8524 7 месяцев назад

Patron of the Vein is not a replacement effect. Maddy would have gotten counters on Yahenni at 44:53

@KarsonLukert 2 месяца назад

That was the least lifeline I have ever seen after an akroma's will in this deck! The other day I played and got 268 life 😂 love this deck

@ElDocBruh 7 месяцев назад

Eliot's and Crim's sleeves matching each other's playmats is bothering my soul, but Maddy's complementary colors are satisfying. Also, Crim casting a board wipe before he even cast a single creature is so on brand.

@neiljowen 4 месяца назад

I wish I could see the card's you refer to more clearly, maybe larger? Might be my connection, but i think it'll help level your channel up as far as glossy quality goes! X

@nulljaeger3850 7 месяцев назад

At 7:40 would benthic biomancer be able to draw at that time, or would you need to wait until the entire explore effect from Hakbal concluded in order to move to the draw triggers?

@theotherguy4478 7 месяцев назад

Hakbal's trigger would need to resolve first before benthic can draw a card since it is a single trigger.

@ElsePerson 7 месяцев назад

I shook my head once he milled the Deeproot Historian. Smh.

@PapaPurP17 2 месяца назад

I didn't see of any of crims stuff that he brought back with his commander died but I heard 0 mention of the finality counters that exile that creature when it dies

@MidnightAR 7 месяцев назад

How are you going to add part of the combo by adding Vito but remove exquisite blood?

@rachelzmak4784 7 месяцев назад

I was confused by this as well! Maybe because they didn't add Sanguine Bond?

@Sirmugen100 7 месяцев назад

Probably didn't want to have an infinite in the deck.

@IllFated44 7 месяцев назад

I was thinking this myself! Like take out something else and add in sanguine bond and change out a couple of the additions to better fit that theme. I can only think it's because they didn't want anyone to be able to win by going infinite and killing everyone at once

@ChaoticMidget_ 7 месяцев назад

he had to have. top decked the akroma’s will, becuse otherwise I’m so confused why Eliot didn’t cast it while his apex altisaur was in play 😳

@Abraktil 7 месяцев назад

BIG vampires need more ramp i think, 5 cmc vampire should be the max and have big impact

@Winn0wed 7 месяцев назад

Can someone explain the trigger Crim misses at 37:19? I've looked up the ruling and dont understand how it causes skeleton crew to trigger Also would skeleton crew trigger off a token leaving the graveyard on death? Or have wizards implemented a rule against that since it doesnt mention anything about nontoken creatures.

@TheSpikeFeeders 7 месяцев назад

When your Commander dies, it goes to the graveyard and -- before anyone would get priority you have the option to move it from your graveyard to the command zone as a state-based action. Normally we shortcut this and put the creature directly into the CZ unless something relevant happens when the commander dies, like when Elenda the Dusk Rose makes tokens. When Crim chooses to put his commander into the CZ, it leaves his graveyard and triggers Skeleton Crew to make a token. You're definitely right in that tokens hit the graveyard momentarily before ceasing to exist, but tokens aren't cards, so anything that cares about cards specifically leaving your graveyard won't trigger when tokens go away.

@Winn0wed 7 месяцев назад

@@TheSpikeFeedersThat was such an easy explanation to understand. Really appreciate you taking time to respond. Going to be extremely useful knowing the CZ interaction and that specifying creature card excludes tokens moving forward!

@ArmorBreaker88 7 месяцев назад

So 12:40 ish; is that how topgrahpy tracker and the biomancer interact? Currently very unsure of how this works, so if someone has some clarification or can point out a mistake in my thoughts id be grateful i thought tracker is a replacement effect and it would go smth like this: trigger your commander to explore on all merfolk, resolve the ability, explore all during the resolution of this trigger; make the biomancer explore first if you want, which gets replaced by x2 eplores in the same event; then you put two counters on it if you so choose (keeping the card on top); explore with your other merfolk and you get to loot TWICE (or once?) after resolving all your explores on all merfolk?

@matthugenberg8869 7 месяцев назад

You are partially correct. The correct order is, explore explore, loot loot. You do still get the double loot, because while they are resolving from the same trigger, there is a comma between the instances of explore, so they are considered 2 different events for the purposes of "one or more" counters being placed. It's a weird sequence of events.

@ArmorBreaker88 7 месяцев назад

@@matthugenberg8869 yeah was expecting as much. But it's also finish the commanders trigger, explore which each of the merfolk, before the loots is placed on the stack right?

@ThatGuyRLO 7 месяцев назад

@@ArmorBreaker88 correct, hakbal makes each merfolk explore as the result of one ability, so you have to resolve it entirely before the loot can happen

@bricktop9705 7 месяцев назад

CRIM! 🤘🏼

@7someone 4 месяца назад

😂 calling Crim a Fellow green mage. I bet he loved that.

@mtleaguegaming7896 7 месяцев назад

"HI I'm Crim I play selesnya..." best opening

@thevaultwalrus 7 месяцев назад

there is an audio mess up with The gamegenic add

@cmattss4 7 месяцев назад

I`ve been reading the decklist for Veloci-ramp-tor and i don`t see Akroma`s Will in any of them, but this is the second of these preview matches i`ve seen it pop up so i guess ill just wait till the 17th to find out what`s actually in the deck lol

@FelipeLundgreen 7 месяцев назад

But It is in the deck. The most valuable card in It, and a good reprint.

@TheSpikeFeeders 7 месяцев назад

www.moxfield.com/decks/viXU1nCwOkmTU5FGQu8MFw This is the stock list for the deck.

@ljlk8583 7 месяцев назад

I don't think I've ever seen someone play akroma's will and still lose

@theotherguy4478 7 месяцев назад

Hakbal's trigger is being used wrong. It is a single trigger ,so the Benthic Biomancer trigger(s) don't occur until after the exploring. Hakbal doesn't give the other merfolk explore; he causes them to explore.

@TheSpikeFeeders 7 месяцев назад

Yep, we're all aware of that now. Unfortunately we have to film these episodes like a month before the set release notes come out, so sometimes we're going to make mistakes that seem obvious today.

@theotherguy4478 7 месяцев назад

@@TheSpikeFeeders Glad to hear. If I could make a recommendation, I would recommend leaving a pinned comment about the mistake. This would allow other viewers to know about the mistake or commenting about it like I did.

@Zackeus1992 7 месяцев назад

Shared Animosity says each *other* attacking. +4/+0 for the first attack. 😅 not sure how much it matters.

@Zackeus1992 7 месяцев назад

Oop! They caught and fixed. Nice.

@Modest7787 7 месяцев назад

Crim full of shit with the Selesnya comment, that made me crack up. Love that guy ❤

@Blackadam36 7 месяцев назад

Question: Did the mana base also get upgraded or no? 4:48

@TheSpikeFeeders 7 месяцев назад

The only upgrades are listed at the beginning during the deck intros

@stefanstewart9079 7 месяцев назад

Deck lists?

@jdh100000 7 месяцев назад

Kopala only taxes spells your opponents CAST and abilities your opponents ACTIVATE. Bronzebeak Foragers is a TRIGGERED ability so any of Aaron's non-token merfolk could have been targeted and exiled successfully.

@CondeDrareg 6 месяцев назад

Great game! 40:13 if you cast Akroma's Will before the Apex Altisaur ETB trigger can't you just make him fight all the oponents creatures and have them all destroyed? Or would the "protection from all colors" on the Altisaur prevent that? If not, he could destroy everything and still be available moving on to combat with all the Akroma's Will benefits, right? Edit: I just realized that it seems he top decked Akroma's Will, but I will appreciate it if someone can clarify if the "protection from all colors" prevents the Altisaur from destroying everything.

@TheNigel2010 5 месяцев назад

Protection means the enrage wouldn't trigger since protection prevents damage (DEBT: Damaged Enchanted Blocked Targeted). So if it just gave indestructible yes it would be a one sided wrath but since it also gives protection it would fight one creature, take no damage, and not fight again.

@CondeDrareg 5 месяцев назад

@@TheNigel2010 many thanks!

@Jarvis_Moonbeam 7 месяцев назад

Only here could we say taking out some of the not so good pirates and take out Pitiless Plunderer

@ignacioalmonacid6153 7 месяцев назад

Why didn't he get his galtha back?

@blakechagnon8837 7 месяцев назад

What does typal mean? Heard it referenced multiple times

@TheSpikeFeeders 7 месяцев назад

It refers to decks that are centered mechanically around a specific creature type. It was formerly referred to as tribal, but that term has some unintended connotations so it was phased out.

@liveanotheranime3526 7 месяцев назад

@@TheSpikeFeeders ^ Typal has already been done away with. Kindred has actually now replaced typal. But just like “species” is replacing “race” in DnD books nobody really cares.

@Guukoh 7 месяцев назад

All the banter about Kinjalli’s Sunwing and then everyone immediately forgets their creatures are entering tapped. And as I’m typing this comment they realized it.

@Caludot 7 месяцев назад

Merfolk go brrrr

@dcallendar7294 7 месяцев назад

Pulled out exquisite blood and added Vito… traded a combo piece for the other combo piece😭

@jacobuphoff2969 7 месяцев назад

Probably didn't want an easy infinite combo in a budget precon upgrade game

@dcallendar7294 7 месяцев назад

@@jacobuphoff2969 makes sense, I just thought it was funny

@andrewgamlin7371 7 месяцев назад

I'm gonna comment this before I watch fully so feal free to rip into me when it actually works out but I'm so confused by the cards taken out of each deck some where must runs in the deck like combo cards taken out for the other half of the combo and some other cards that just make what those deck wanna do actually work

@calebrandol227 7 месяцев назад

How was Aaron able to cast Hakbal at 6:46

@calebrandol227 7 месяцев назад

Nevermind Kiora is target permanent 😮 I thought it was target creature

@Halinn 7 месяцев назад

Imagine if Aaron had kept the retrace merfolk for after the blasphemous act

@pedrostrik 6 месяцев назад

As always a small mistake and without counter spells, everything is lost

@uli_ses1363 7 месяцев назад

why did you guys take out exquisite blood and put Vito in? I mean exquisite blood + vito = Wincon

@representativejoints1188 7 месяцев назад

I'm just here to watch Crim play Grixis, show me how to Luffy Captain.

@Karmic_Guide 7 месяцев назад

Crim!!!!

@cobaltbeau 7 месяцев назад

I'm really digging the graphics at the start, but when we do this again, could we show either the whole card (there is a bunch of extra space on the sides of the video anyway) or at the very least, obscure the left hand side of the cards instead of right? There's a lot of crucial information on what a card does on the right hand side of the card (namely P/T and mana cost)

@brendanrobot1 7 месяцев назад

The merfolk that creates a map token and makes you explore again, isn't it 1 + 2 explores.

@BlackWaltzWaifu 7 месяцев назад

It's a replacement effect, so it's two (since it's 1 + 1).

@MrMalorian 7 месяцев назад

I'm a simple man: I see an Asian Avenger and I push Like

@DiscardatRandom 7 месяцев назад

Where’s the honorary pirate opposition agent

@ingolf82 7 месяцев назад

so I assume Elliott avoids playing Gruul because of his colorblindness and not because gruul is bad in cEDH hehe

@RabbitsRi 7 месяцев назад

I must keep the tradition. Ban Crim.

@subpump2823 7 месяцев назад

Trible*

@kreldik89 7 месяцев назад

Guys, i need help... Commander deck must contain every card with different name, yes? And there are few ghaltas in one deck. Based on rule 201.2a two object have same name if they have at least one name in common. Do i get it wrong? Because for me "Ghalta, whatever" has same name as "Ghalta, anything"... Please, explain what im getting wrong. Thanks

@TheSpikeFeeders 7 месяцев назад

Hi there! The card's name is all of the text at the top of the card, not just the name of the character depicted on the card. This means you can't include two copies of Ghalta, Primal Hunger, but you can have one Ghalta, Primal Hunger and one Ghalta, Stampede Tyrant.

@kreldik89 7 месяцев назад

@@TheSpikeFeeders Thank you :) ... Can u please explain meaning of rule 201.2a? Im very confused about it. Rule say "Two or more objects have the same name if they have at least one name in common, even if one or more of those objects have additional names. An object with no name doesn't have the same name as any other object, including another object with no name."

@TheSpikeFeeders 7 месяцев назад

Cards can have multiple full names because of a card called Spy Kit, which grants the equipped creature the name of every nonlegendary card in the game. This rule explains that if you have a card named Llanowar Elves and you equip it with Spy Kit, and you have a Phyrexian Revoker naming Elves of Deep Shadow, the Phyrexian Revoker will prevent the equipped Llanowar Elves from being activated.

@kreldik89 7 месяцев назад

@@TheSpikeFeeders Now that makes a perfect sense to me.. Thank you very much, you saved me and my play group from lot of arguments. I cant wait to see their decks in full strenght again ❤️

@jasonchambers50 7 месяцев назад

I do not watch you guys a lot but I would suggest making the Commercials yourself.

@alij4778 7 месяцев назад

Crimmmm

@elliotbanbury6442 7 месяцев назад

First

@maccaldwell3723 7 месяцев назад

Crim, the casual grixis player... lmfao

@danielpedro3773 7 месяцев назад

Strange that you didn't swap the commanders. For I believe some legendaries are better commanders than the ones from the box. With Brass and Carmen as exceptions. But that's just my opinion

@cheepersmommy 7 месяцев назад

You guys need a full time judge to remind you of your triggers and ongoing effects because you missed TONS in both of the videos I watched about these decks.

@TheSpikeFeeders 7 месяцев назад

Would certainly be nice to have. Currently not in the budget though!

@Carlospabe 7 месяцев назад

They mansplained the Yahenni and the Patron triggers wrong. They are not remplacement effects but triggered abilities, so both had to go to the stack and thus Yahenni could have grown as twice as much. The wording on both abilities reads the same "Whenever a creature an opponent controls dies".