Ups & Downs From Star Trek: Lower Decks 4.1 - Twovix 

“This ship is outdated and smells like borg.” Had me in stitches.

17:44 In the German dubbed version, Margot Rothweiler, aged 77, returned as the computer voice. She was the computer voice of the U.S.S. Voyager and the U.S.S. Enterprise E. It was absolutely wonderful to hear that voice again after 21 years. She was last heard in Star Trek Nemesis.

Best line of the episode: "It's Voyager. Sh*t got freaky." 😆🖖

The lizard babies.... Just gonna throw out there was like 3+ babies but there was only two robo-lizards. Leads me to believe it was not the babies but Janeway and Paris instead, which made the lizard sitting in the captains chair all the funnier

Sean! SERIOUSLY?!?!?...how in the galaxy do you NOT say one word about Shaks asking T'illips, 'Just how many, physical, memories do you have?' 🤷🏼‍♂️🤯

"Shaka when the walls fell" was my favorite part of the episode.

I could swear when I saw Voyager, I heard a petite lady named Ellie from the UK cry out joyfully.

I actually got into star trek thanks to lower decks, i saw that i didnt NEED to know about star trek to watch it, i knew i would've miss a lot of references but i didnt mind, until my curiosity just got the better of me and i started watching star trek by the end of 2021, watched all of it and i actually really enjoyed it, to the point of becoming a fan, i'm really glad i did.

I did like how it addressed the controversy of Tuvix, confirm it was murder, but also vindicate Janeway's choice as Voyager was alone in the Delta Quadrant with limited options and she had to consider Tyvok and Neelix's lives aswell.

Also the human salamanders where of Janeway and Paris because there are only 2 not 3. Which makes more funny that the borg salamander sitting in the captain’s chair could have been the salamander that represented Janeway.

My poor 15-year-old son was just trying to watch the show, and stupid Daddy kept laughing out loud at the oblique references to Janeway's "solution" and especially, "I miss my wife."

I loved how excited Mariner is about going to Voyager. Between this and he NX museum mention in TOS she's turning into a real historic ships fan-girl.

How did T’Illips response to Shax’s question about memories not get an up?!?!

I literally teared up when Voyager came on the screen with the theme playing in the background. Between Prodigy, Picard season 3, and this episode Voyager fans are getting spoiled as of late haha

I cannot explain to you how much I love Voyager. Both the show AND the ship. Ep1 was just amazing in every way

The problem with Tuvix was that while the narration stated that he was with the crew for several weeks, allowing the crew to get to know him, he was only in one episode, so the audience didn't get to know him. Imagine how much more impact it would have had if he had been in several episodes before being split up again!

As someone whose first time watching Star Trek was with Voyager, this episode was perfection. Without Voyager I wouldn’t be a Star Trek fan and seeing all of the references made me so happy.

I wish Seska was one of the holograms used by the macrovirus, it would've been perfect for this episode 😂

Two things: There was a VOY joke you missed. If not named T'illups, what would their name be? Also, none of the wreckage scenes have bodies; I have a feeling the lack of an explicit explosion from that beam is intentional. Don't write off our Klingon friends just yet.

I love Trek Culture, but nothing beats my weekly Ups and Downs! Well, except for Ellie saying " Goodbye, sweeties " ❤

I love little masks slip from Mariner when she sees Voyager, she just as excited as the rest of the gang (maybe even more excited than the rest). With standard Mariner redirection "Boimler gonna flip" after that.

One of my favorite details was with Chaotica, if you pay close attention, his holo image flickers once in a while like it's a film projection

7:20 - I do think it's worth mentioning that joining T'ana, a character with an extremely over-the-top sex life, with the asexual Billups was an interesting choice.

According to the Memory Alpha wiki, Lower Decks 4x07 scheduled for oct 12 will be the 900th produced episode of Star Trek!

That whale probe in the credits battle.. its purpose in life was cetacean observation. I choose to believe that they added it as a shout out to Seán and Kris.

No ups for Ransome saying “Shaka when the walls fell” and Kayshon saying “Sokath his eyes uncovered” Followed by Ransome saying he’s been paying attention!!! Come on!!!

I love a lot of the bridges in Star Trek. The Enterprice D, Pike's Enterprise, Discovery, and Kirk's Enterprise A... But Voyager's bridge feels like home. It has always been my absolute favorite ship and my favorite bridge. And this just might be my favorite Lower Decks episode (so far).

Funny thing, I watched the Voyager episode “Tuvix” 6 hours beforehand, without realizing that “Twovix” existed

I was initially like, "How could Starfleet have missed a micro virus lying dormant. What happened to ship quarantines and periodic baryon sweeps." Sure, Voyager could have returned with one, but one would think the Baryon sweeps that they made an entire episode out of in TNG could take care of it. Then I recall that it eliminates organic matter, which Voyager depends on with its Bioneural circuitry. So either they would have to remove all the binaural components (ridiculous extensive work) or shield them from radiation, so finding a Macrovirus behind the protective casing of a bioneural Gell pack makes sense. The Borg nanoprode didn't really need much explanation, as those regenerative chambers were probably filled to the brim with them. Great episode.

Speaking of Voyager. Roxann Dawson was the director of last weeks Foundation episode and was interviewed on the pod cast for the show.

I loved the tuvix stuff and the fact they kept on mentioning he was murdered 😂😂

Possibly my favouritist episode of StarTrek of all time 😂 "They broke the ship with cheese?!" 🤣

That's so interesting that they paired T'Lin with Tendi, the most expressive, emotional person in the lower decks. And she doesn't seem annoyed. They each do their own thing. ❤😊

How did them gagging at the simulated Nelix cooking not get an up I laughed so hard!

The Fear hologram was most likely developed by the curator for a presentation or a display. I know it's not explicitly stated, but it makes the most sense considering that no one on VOY was going to create a replica, and the doctor did not directly interact with Fear, therefore there was no holographic copy made.

Voyager looked amazing. All the space stuff looked amazing.

The inclusion of the whale probe in the intro is a deep, deep cut reference to the novel Probe, where we learn that the probe was damaged in a Borg encounter prior to the events of The Voyage Home. It's beta/non-canon of course, but still suitable for the LD intro.

Just amazed at the level of quality we are getting in both Strange New Worlds and Lower Decks. The second Golden age has begun.

I have to say Lower Decks really brought back so much of my love for Star Trek. In so many inventive ways.

How can you not mention the funniest joke in the episode? "Holodeck Safety Protocols set to: Random"

Y'all missed the Breen ship also added to the battle in the opening credits.

You know it's a good episode when the ups and downs run longer than the episode itself 😂

I think T'Linn was transporting them all to the brig, but because she transported them together they melded into one huge blob.

100% agree, Voyager's bridge is the most beautiful 🤩 Love, love, love the shot of Voyager in San Francisco - I was always sad we never got to see anything that happened once they got home, so that felt like a lovely touch. This was great, and omg I didn't even notice the Klingon towel guy 😂😂😂 (RIP though 👀)

I loved how they framed this as Voyager just having some really weird adventures in the Delta Quadrant. And when you think about it, they were some really strange occurrences happening on that ship, which is why this love letter felt just right!

The "Voy" thing is also a reference to "We'll Always Have Tom Paris" where Boimler calls it Voy and Mariner makes fun of him then admits it does save time.

Happy Star Trek Day Trek Culture.

I took Mariner's "I told Ransom to promote you" as bluster...covering for her feelings. That's why Ransom was so touched when he watched the logs.

3 things i liked - The USS Voyager is shown to be almost falling apart - Everyone agreed that Janeway solution is to kill Tuvix is messed up - Imagine how awkward if the actual crew saw the Salamanders memorial.

I am a Voyager Fan boy. Excellent episode. Since the strange new worlds crossover I have been watching Lower Decks for the first time. Lower Decks has taken all the stuffiness out of the NEXT GENERATION.Loving it all

14:20 and the tune that plays there is the leadership theme from TMP and TWOK, the little progression that precedes the Enterprise theme proper, that immediately resolves to the theme of Lower Decks. it's so well placed in that scene, for Tendi, and it's perfectly placed _as a component of the scene_ that it takes the whole thing to Star Wars theatrics level: the action plays, and the music sets the emotion, much like Greek theater. perfect composition there... the director deserves another pip.

Voyager! Voyager! Voyager! My favorite show. I am so happy with this episode.

I have to say the two robotic representations of the Warp 10 Lizards are not representing the baby's they had, but Janeway and Paris themselves after they were transformed into them. That's why there's only two and the baby's were nowhere to be seen in the display exibit.

I love that Starfleet actually was proactive for once & inoculated everyone against the macrovirus (& presumably all the other delta quadrant diseases voyager discovered).

Robot lizard babies were adorable. Definitely merchable. Plushies?

The most frustrating thing about the computer voice in new trek is that right before she passed away she took the time to have a full voice recording of her for at the nowadays primitive text to speech bot but with modern AI it would be easy her last gift to trek was the ability to have her be the computer forever

I lucked out. I was bored so I did a Lower Decks marathon, then found out season 4 was coming out a couple days later. I am so glad I got to go into it with everything fresh in my mind. Lower Decks is my favorite thing going right now.

I look forward to this channel so much. Thanks for bringing light to the community. - a San Diego Choreographer

We saw a Borg drone just chilling in his alcove in Lower Decks season 2, in the stinger of "wej Duj."

I literally laughed so hard I had tears coming down my face with so many voyager references laid down one atop another

"Are you chewing gum!?" The writers must have been watching Trek Culture!

This was a very tongue-in-cheek jab at the shenanigans in Voyager. Does the macrovirus surviving and laying dormant on the bridge make sense? Hell naw. But it's a hilarious nod nonetheless

I love Voyager so this episode was a pure delight for me.

There is a Star Trek Novel called Probe set after Star Trek IV. Part of the probes history mentions that is was damaged in a battle with with a cuboid ship.

I have a down that we didn't get any Voyager era guest voices. I know Robert Duncan McNeil appeared a few seasons ago but, it'd been nice if perhaps the EMH was still around or Commodore Kim (Starfleet fast tracked that, it's my head canon) was around to over see the transfer.

I think the reason lower decks works so good is that the crew of the Cerritos is all of us fans. The things they say, the way they react to the universe around them is how we would all be. Each episode is truly a love letter to the fans.

Great Voyager tribute episode, I think they only Voyager reference I personally wished they included was something to do with the Equinox...like if we got confirmation if Captain Rudolph Ransom is at all related to Cerritos first officer, Jack Ransom

I love that during the episode, everyone is questioning Janeway's decision and T'lyn is like: Nah, I don't have time for this! Bye T'ilups!

The line that the curator used 'subtle updates that don't impact historical consistency are an acceptable compromise for conservation' is an actual almost direct line from my museum studies undergrad textbook. Now that is a deep-cut 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Not sure what's better, the episode itself, or Sean's joy and excitement when talking about it 😁 Love your content!

The fact that they have adapted the fan culture to this show is hysterical. It’s like Will Wheaton is a writer.

1st I love the mustache. Looks good on you. 2nd the line Running around with a caulk gun full of cheese just made me laugh so hard. Finally one of my favorite lines from this show was when the Doctor who was explaining being Tuvixed said "Same thing happened to commander Tuvok and Neelix back in the 70's."

4:20 so, didn't you see the breen ship, in the opeing credits battle scene? top right, chasing a klingon warbird, when the cerritos turns to flee.

I'm sorry I missed the debut of Ups & Downs going live. This was a wild and silly episode. I love the attention they gave to Voyager lore while diving into one of the greatest debates in Star Trek history. This season already looks like a wild ride as our now Lt Junior Grade Lower Deckers get into even more insanity. Love the use of the Voyager music and the addition of the Whale Probe in the intro.

There's something else about the Voyager bridge scene where the macrovirus was discovered behind the panel. It's a callback to a set accident on TNG, as told by Wil Wheaton during his tour of the remade Enterprise D bridge for Picard Season 3. There was a scene in TNG (he thinks it was Best of Both Worlds part 1) where the camera shaking factor was a "10" -- first time it was ever that high. So Patrick Stewart hurls himself at the wall panel, and breaks it entirely. Wesley comments "hull breach on Deck One", to a totally not laughing crew. In Twovix, they say "these panels could withstand a photon torpedo" -- it falls off as Boilmer gently touches it.

"It was Voyager. Sh*t got weird, man" Perfect summary of 7 seasons of Voyager.

They should have had Rebecca Romijn do the voice of the computer.

The upgraded tricorder gave me vibes of when Barclay offered to upgrade Dr. Crusher's medical tricorder.

What a way to kick off the season! Absolute madness but such a love letter to Voyager. The Voyager theme gets me in the feels so much and I loved the Mariner-Boimler interplay.

Voyager’s bridge is my favourite. Love it. This whole episode had me in stitches

I demand more T'Lyn! Her staring down Tendi while hydrating as Tendi asked "But WE'RE friends, right?" deserved an up. We waited a whole season for the galaxies bitchiest Vulcan to join this crew, dammit, and she is DELIVERING.

Am I the only one who wanted to see Tendi and T'Lyn twovixxed?

I had to wait 5 days to see this episode, fortunately the festival I was at had no Internet so avoided spoilers, and so glad for that, this was a gorgeous season opener, with so much Voyager love that I share. I think Janeaway did the right thing and I am so glad, it was referenced here so blatantly without condemning her. Captains have to make the right decisions not the popular ones. A really strong season opener!

This episode went from 0 to 60 very quickly! Excellent Start!

I always used to think there was a simple solution to the Tuvix situation: duplicate Tuvix by replicating the accident in which Riker got duplicated, and then split the second Tuvix. But later I realized, you'd still be killing that second Tuvix so not really a solution at all. Also, foreshadowing the next episode, I'll just say "Moopsy!" 😁

So good to have Ups and Downs as much as the episodes themselves! Also have to ask Sean...where do you get your tshirts?

Loved this episode. Lovd the detail on Voyager. Mike McMahan is truly a Star Trek fan. This was a VOY Love Letter to the extreme. And LOVED the Pike reference!

Voyager transporter effect when the transporter was used...perfect!

Agree with your 2nd down, I’m going to miss that Klingon captain and any future stories with him.

There was nobody in the pilot seat, when Voyager took off. Boimler and Mariner stood behind it. Are ships automatic now?😁

I love how now whenever I watch a voyager episode set after the Macrovirus all I'll think is "Theres still one hiding on the bridge"

Lower Decks is such a good tool for the Star Trek universe because whether it's the DS9 or Voyager themed episodes or their own characters coming to Strange New Worlds, it just has this ability to really celebrate the whole of the franchise. But also I love that for all the love letter to Voyager stuff they keep it about the LD characters. Just as SNW crossover really used the device to develop the SNW characters.

I definitely think the beam teleported the Klingon crew before destroying the ship (LD invested too much into them just to kill them off) since we see the romulans in the next episode, I definitely think the Vulcans will be visited too, leading into a puniltimate episode where all these crews team up. But I don't think we'll get more references to NX-01. We already had a pretty big reference with the Pike thing.

I had a thought. Sean, for Halloween you should switch places with Simon Miller for one ups and downs. You could do wrestling and he could do lower decks. I think that would be funny

I had noticed prior to McCoy beaming up he had to know or witnessed the transporter accident prior because of his position and clearly being nearby.

"I miss my wife" was also my latinum up. I laughed so hard.

When it comes to dealing with the ethical question, I think you would have to figure out a way to do a Thomas Riker and a Tuvix reversal in one transport sequence (while depositing the base Tuvixed character on a different transporter pad). I have one "down" for this episode that wasn't mentioned. Why did all of the Tuvixed characters immediately join the cause to merge other crewmembers? That part didn't make sense to me.

The Borg timeline isn't confusing. At the time this episode happens, many Borg ships were likely rendered inert when Adm Janeway infected the Collective with the pathogen. The dormant cube wasn't contacted, but Voyager set a course for it. The Jurati Collective is presumably staying out of history's way. And the events of Picard S3 haven't happened yet, so the Queen hasn't cannibalized what she could yet.

Honestly, Ransom is shaping up to be my fav character this season. He's so chill and kind and supportive. Its awesome.

The fact this is the first reference to the Whale Probe since The Voyage Home, *AND* this is the only show that's got cetacean crew members can't be a coincidence?? Matt the whale is surely going to communicate with this probe sometime this season, I hope!