Ups & Downs From Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 2.8 - Under The Cloak Of War 

I think that was a direct callback.

It also ties into his conversation with Pike at the end about how the two of them were not the same. It wasn't that Pike had never seen war (he'd lost men on Rigel VII)--it was that he'd never had to make the choice to sacrifice a part of his soul for the greater good.

I had the same thought

@@GSBarlevtrue that but we know Pike is good for it if need be.

@@GSBarlevbut we also know that Pike has made peace with the fact that in less than a decade’s time he’ll sacrifice everything for the greater good.

I agree completely. A wonderful performance.

Facts!!

My prediction is that his character goes rogue in an even more ambiguous but let’s face it, probably righteous manner, he is for the underdog and for justice..first last always. And then we get the curmudgeonly, mostly SELF righteous cowboy, even racist at times(certainly TOS) Bones McCoy, believe me when I say, I found him funny 45 years ago, in current rewatch... he’s everybody’s “favourite “ MAGA uncle....as in, NO THANKS

Babs does deliver an amazing performance. I’m disappointed that in this video there are acknowledgments of his moving performance, followed by a lack of ups. During the dinner when Rah grabs M’Benga’s arm and M’Benga remains composed? That’s not an up? 16:05-16:35.

Agreed! An amazing performance.

I kept thinking of his daughter would be kept in a pattern buffer for all that time while he was working on a cure.

I particularly like how non chalantly he takes this decision off her shoulders with the sad certainty in his eyes that this is what needs to happen and she should not be the one to beat herself up about it. It shows that he has seen alot more than her and decided he should bear the burden, not her. We see it moments before that he realizes this way before Chapel does that they will kill that guy.

I think he knew from the start that he was never coming back.

the speed of his suggestion for stasis first, then his matter-of-fact instant decision to purge makes me think he's had to do this (and more) before.. Emmy nom acting.

The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one

Yes, the uncertainty about who was the aggressor

INCOMING TRANSPORT INCOMING TRANSPORT INCOMING TRANSPORT... Wow.

Right behind him was Jess Bush. Some actors can get dwarfed behind another actors performance. She didn't. And this, coming from someone with a limited acting career.

Main character, really.

@@JohnPamplintotally chilling…. Brilliant episode and v thought provoking.

Melissa Navia seems to be getting missed, but she is doing amazing as well

Thank you for your service, good sir.

*salute*

His biography is thin, but depending on when he left Nigeria it's possible he was there during at least one coup d'état during his childhood. Nigeria seems overall pretty stable and there's nothing about him in military service, but growing up in Africa would mean he was a lot more exposed to news and images of violent conflicts than most Americans. His portrayal felt very real and well thought out, and he is great to watch.

@@chrisblake4198 And the odds are extremely high that if he didn't see conflict first had, someone in his family did. Thus he would of seen how it affected them. While I didn't personally serve, I have friends that went to Iraq and Afghanistan. There is somethings that we just don't talk about and have learned to talk them down from.

Thank you for your service.

They did such an amazingly good job that this episode could've really done with a trigger warning 😞. Had to stop the episode mid way and console my partner.

@@randomfrequency Yeah, I was worried that might have happened to some folks. I'm sorry it affected your partner so painfully.

@@JenABlue-ed1bw 🙏

I am a Army combat veteran, Desert Shield/Storm, and Enduring Freedom, served 23 years. I watched the episode by myself first, and the reaction of M'Benga and Chapel, plus the environment of the FOB brought back memories. Some good, some not so good. And yes, tears were shed because it did trigger my PTSD, but it also captured the effects and impact of being in that environment, and how triage works in a Army Combat Hospital. M'Benga and Chapel were also spot on with the "If you haven't walked in my shoes, you just can't relate." There is so much more I could say about this and SNW being spot on. I did warn my wife before we watched it together about it being intense, and she knows what I mean when I say that.

@@Musashi41 thank you, my partner said the same thing

The tannoy announcing incoming transports made me think of Radar doing that for the choppers coming in to the 4077th.

Oh, yeeeah. I didn't pick that up consciously, but I think I felt it. Mash is goooood.

This was my initial response as well. When MASH did dark, they did it so f'ing well.

When they cleared the transporter buffer, that felt so much like an Alen Alda scene

​@@Whizzoukincoming wounded. Bring your dancing shoes

also the actual fight was not the point. And only could take away from the encounter before.

Take an UP

Astute observation and right on.

I felt they obfuscated the scene deliberately to leave the details vague, and followed that immediately with Chapel's unequivocal testimony that M'benga acted in self-defense. In the absence of hard evidence, the audience, like the senior officers, are left having to decide if she's lying to cover for her friend or if it really happened that way. It reminds me not only of soldiers covering up atrocities they've seen their compatriots commit, but of cops defending one another during investigations of police misconduct.

Agreed @politics_from The fog of war, who really started and is war ever really finished? Of course, the answer is no, wars never really finish.

but it sucks. its not even trek. its just fucking stupid.

I was only waiting to see how the sonic shower worked

The frosted glass is shot from M’bengas office. Chapel was not in his office but next to a door that leads somewhere outside his office. She saw everything.

@@Jack_BeQuickthank you

@@Jack_BeQuick Good point. But the way it was edited it can easily lead to that "point of view" confusion.

That's what I thought too but that might just be my own PTSD wondering what I might do in that situation, and wondering if there was any way I could have handled vaguely similar situations better in the past. I rewatched it a few times and still have questions. One thing that makes me wonder is, nobody even tried to treat him for a simple stab wound when he was already in sickbay

@@alakani They prob could. But I got the feeling that neither had any intention of doing so.

for me, its the best star trek I've ever seen, Im so glad this exists

Me too

Boimler: I am rehearsing for a dark Lower Decks crossover musical.

@@aqdroberthell yes

Definitely a return to form, for Trek.

All of the best in production we got in discovery with the heart and soul of what came before makes a beautiful combination

And the knife was the one used to kill the Klingons that Rah claimed... Truths that are lies when applied to the question being asked. M'benga murdered him and he and Chapel lied to Pike without Pike suspecting. Dark shit.

That's I think what we're meant to interpret, but either Dak'Reh was an idiot or he had a deathwish. It would have been fitting for a Klingon who feels shame for his cowardice to push M'Benga to giving him an _honorable death_ in battle, but my read on the character was that *he was just that cocky and stupid* and never thought M'Benga would actually harm him. That said I do think he went for the dagger once he realized M'Benga knew his secret.

I accept the deliberate ambiguity, but I choose to believe M'Benga, "I didn't start the fight but I'm glad he's dead." I am completely convinced that Rah got physical first. We saw he has the classic Klingon temper when he burned his hand, we were a hair's breadth from violence in the Mess Hall. But we'll never know for sure, and I love that about this episode.

​@@MichaelLlaneza M'Benga was shown and said to be exceptional with hand-to-hand combat. He could have easily backed away, gotten out of any grip from Rah if he was physically attacking him (which we did not get any indication was happening as he was trying to get him to see things from his perspective). There is only one reason Rah would have ended up stabbed. Then there is the issue that they were in the med bay and there was no attempt to save him..

@@curtisbme No attempt at treatment is coming up at the tribunal.

From another vet…I love Star Trek and I am so proud they decided to show this side of war. Some combat veterans are able to keep inside the memories better than others but it is there. It will always be there. I served at a medical facility in a FOB in Iraq for over a year and these memories are never shared with my family. There is just no way someone who was not there can even begin to imagine…thank you Star Trek for this amazing episode.

As someone who was a civilian during the first Gulf War and watched as the scuds went over head and I had to put on my mask and I still suffer from PTSD and considering my Early childhood was not a very good one I have a lot of pre-war issues I have live through two Gulf Wars and while other Americans could go back to the States I could not had nowhere to go to so I remained in Israel while we were getting bombarded by Iraqi scud missiles the funniest thing is I remember predicting exactly when it was going to happen how it was going to end up happening people around me fought I was a prophet because I quoted a line Jewish literature people have been going down to the Western Wall to pray for Rain at that time because it seemed like there was going to be any and I had made the comment that God is with holding the rain to protect us by having the cloud cover they couldn't see where to land their missiles and in this way it was protective cover and somebody asked me what I meant by that and I said God protects fools and children they simply were thinking I was merely quoting scripture as it were, and in one way I was put in another way I had studied on how the missiles and how they were launched how these things and I knew that the cloud cover more protective than people understood and I said it will start raining when the first missile goes and that will be in a few weeks time when he realizes that the cloud cover isn't going to let up and he will not be able to see what he wishes to launch at... Israel wasn't allowed to fight that war we were told to stay on the sidelines I say we but I knew people who were called up people in the Air Force who were called up at the time I knew people like myself who were unable to go home or did go home, we jokingly used to say well in the last person goes pleased with turn off the lights, everytime I hear a siren sound like you did a few years back when the Palestinians in Gaza sent rockets in this direction in the direction of Jerusalem and we're suburb of Jerusalem on the good side of the green line as it, they sent up the sirens we do not have here any real protection for missile attacks there's maybe two or three old shelters that are still in existence and may still be viable, but at that timeat that time there weren't any we were told to hide under certain places. Places that were still well-built that were from ancient times and that could act as shelters but when the sirens went off I started reliving everything happened in the previous war, but now I had two kids and while they were adults by the standards of this country trying to help me with my PTSD they realize that my eating disorder also kicked in at the same time it was a coping mechanism I had developed in childhood when dealing with various and sundry abusers... So that scene Apple I think he says or maybe it's the doctor says, that no one can understand what it was like until you've lived through it I understand because I lived through it and maybe I didn't have to kill anyone maybe I didn't have to fight or take care of somebody who was dying in my arms but I had to deal with nearly being killed twice... And that leaves scars that you don't want to know about... I'm a writer at least I used to be in people have asked me how I had had that asked me how I can make things seem so real was I in the military Etc because it's like I understand what they went through, I can only understand up to a certain point but I could put myself in their shoes because I was put in a situation where as a civilian who has been trained to fight try and buy my late Holocaust survivor father and some of his American military friends at a very early age how to handle these situations I can tell you that between that and what I experienced during the Gulf War I have something of the background that gives me an insight but it is a small window into a world that I hope never to fully enter, and it's something that I don't think any civilians can truly understand unless they have been through it, yes you can see and you can empathize and that's a good thing that might make the world a far better place if everyone could emphasize enough to never bring the world to that kind of hell... Unfortunately I fear that the world that the world doesn't believe in JFK's line that we all inhabit this small planet we all breathe the same air we all cherish our children's and we are all mortal... I fear that people these days don't believe that they don't believe it enough to put aside what differences they have and work for a common good a common goal, and Hope. A world without hope isn't going to last very long.

I Agree Cap't As a Vet the same!

Thank you all for everything you've done

Right there with you homie. As a fellow vet, this episode felt like a real love letter to us that have served, especially Combat Veterans. But I’ll be honest, the last line of the episode broke my heart.

During the dinner scene, I was constantly expecting violence.

I got one complaint, but it's not Babs' fault... The camera, or in the editing, the sparring match scene was one of those scenes in which I wish the camera had backed off to allow us to really watch the fight choreography. It surprised me to learn Babs is a martial artist IRL, so it woulda been lovely to have seen that. The closeup multi-cut editing made me sad for the actors who likely rehearsed it.

Good catch. You'll notice they showed that Spock/Ortegas moment in the "Previously" segment for this episode.

😔🙏🏼 it’s taken years to get my ptsd manageable. Fewer flashbacks now but, there are still some that take you. I felt this episode too.👊🏼🖖🏼

I like that they lingered on the transporter after he hit the pattern buffer. We get to see all the people coming in. And that hit harder than the computer just announcing incoming transport.

After having some time to reflect and think on it a bit.... why couldn't they have just beamed him back onto the pad for a moment, brought the power back up, and then put him back in the buffer? Why did he have to die? He was critical and needed immediate surgery, but at least he would have had a chance that way as opposed to just being deleted. The thought didn't occur to me until after the episode, and I get in the moment, logic can be one of the last things present. Made me think though.

They could have brought him back up but I believe he would have died waiting to go back in. It would have had the same impact and would have taken up that much more time.

@@ZealoustheEnder But we don’t “know” he would have died. Odds were against him, sure, but wasn’t a definite. Pushing the button 100% killed him with 0% chance of survival. 🤷🏽‍♂️

That's true

Totally, totally agree with you there. I have been looking and hoping for an Emmy award-winning performance from Strange New Worlds, and I have found it, at last. Babs Olusanmokun deserves an Emmy cumulatively, for many, many wonderful scenes he has acted in these seasons of SNW, the sheer amount of emotion that he has been able to pack in his scenes - my goodness, I can't wait to see him elsewhere in the future, on TV or in motion picture films.

You are right, she didn’t see it. They lied and said that the knife belongs to “the butcher of j’gal” which it did, but they were letting everyone continue to believe it was Rah

Yeah. The butcher reveal was shocking but it made sense.

Yup. He missed the point of this scene. She straight up lied. They both lied about the knife. And M'Benga murdered Rah, finishing the fight Rah "started" on the planet.

The director of this episode, Jeff W Byrd, was on the 7th Rule podcast and said they shot 3 or 4 different endings and the cast/crew decided to go with this version.

@@curtisbme I don’t see how this could be described as murder. It was self-defense. Joseph is shouting for Rah to get his hands off of him.

Agreed - that’s the only point I laughed.. the rest of the time I was in shock and enthralled.. amazing episode

I loved how he listened to Una and immediately agreed with her when she made her point clear. Great leadership.

BEST CAPTAIN OF ALL THE STAR TREK SHOWS, ALL OF THEM HE THE BEST IF IT WASNT FOR HIM THEY WOULD NOT BE A KIRK ON ONE OF THE TIME LINE

by making them all go to dinner

​@@jackkenefick2696That's what I thought too. Like really dude?

Meh, he seems like a Captain who has no control over his bridge officers and is out of his league. Janeway, Picard, Sisko - none of them would have allowed bridge officers to act the way they did during the dinner.

Why exactly do you trust the Klingon but not M'Benga? M'Benga was trying to avoid a fight at every turn. The Klingon, on the other hand, was a complete fraud who was happy to have people killed, and M'Benga was the one person who could expose him as a fraud. What makes you trust the good will of the Klingon?

Exactly. The frosted glass was a brilliant metaphor

Remember the scene early in S2 where she makes a remark about the serum and says "You really want to do this again?" - that was a hint at this. Marvelous.

@@JohnPamplinIt was in the first episode when she said it.

So... for one reason or another then?

I have what seems to be a very unpopular take: *the crossover episode was the worst episode of the season* so far. Don't get me wrong--I agree it was phenomenal, but this season has _just been that good_

@@davidanderson_surrey_bc ok, here goes…E1 when M’Benga and Chapel fight their way through the ship and then make a desperate leap into space, E2 when Una relates her story and is exonerated, E3 when La’an struggles to deal with the secret she has to keep, E4 when Ortegas saves the ship, E5 when Spock first discovers he’s human, when he loses it on Sam Kirk and the relationship he has with his mother, E6 when Uhura has visions of Hemmer and the depth of loss we all feel when he died, E7 was tears of laughter, and E8 hit me the hardest because I’m a retired soldier and I’ve seen a lot of my fellow soldiers dealing with PTS and this episode really captured the pain that PTS inflicts on its victims.

I wondered if it was to see a seed of doubt, making us unsure who started the fight.

And it's going to veer straightaway into a musical o.0

Right there with you. As a lifelong Trekkie, I am continuously shocked at the quality of this.

I thought it was uneven in the first half but these last 3 episodes are 3 of the best episodes of Star trek. Season 2 is turning out to be a classic.

Bless you and your son

Yep, same here, civilian emergency healthcare - I’ve had to make a similar decision as M’benga makes when he purged the pattern buffer, and it gave me some feelings I’ve not felt for a while.

I just hope they don’t crash and burn Chapel’s relationship with Spock as early as it seems they will.

@@Yibambe.given that viewers already know the relationship won’t last, I don’t think the writers would go to all the trouble of getting them together only to end it quickly, especially since they know the fans have been wanting this. My hope is that they’re exploring this relationship in order to further develop each character. Maybe Spock’s experimenting with emotions will teach him why it’s best to embrace his Vulcan side. Maybe Chapel’s time with Spock will show that she’s incompatible with someone who’s so different.

That's what I think, too. Plus the fact that MBenga obviously carried this knife around with him, so he came prepared to potentially kill the guy.

@@ankerubinetto2359 He 100% murdered him. But I think it was in the moment, not prepared/premeditated killing. He had the knife as a trauma memento and it was a in-the-moment emotional reaction to finish his mission.

I also think that the final decision happened in that scene itself, but... I don't think it was a coincidence that he had this box with his personal war stuff right there, at his workplace. Why is it there?... Would have been different if the scene had happened in his quarters.

However way you slice it, Dak'Reh started the fight. He had every opportunity to walk away. M'Benga *yelled* at him to go away. But either: 1. Dak'Reh manipulated everything from the start in order to die an honorable death (the suicidal Klingon is one we've seen on _Trek_ before, that's not the way Robert Wisdom played the part) 2. He knew that M'Benga knew his secret and knew he had to silence him, so he reached for the knife (very possible) 3. He was so vain and _stupid_ that the thought never crossed his mind that M'Benga would hurt him, and so the prospect of winning him over as an ally was just too much for him to resist.

Astute!

Yeah, the actors are better and better. Even after Picard and Shakespeare.

I’m right there with you, SNW has been amazing

It's already my second favorite series after DS9. And it's only Season 2 omg !!!

I'll give it 3rd status after DS9 and TNG, but it certainly has the potential to take my #2 spot! Each episode just seems to get better and better.

I agree with you. Season two of Strange New Worlds is knocking it out of the Park!!!

DS9 has quite a few on PTSD (It's Only a Paper Moon and The Siege of AR-558 come to mind), but regardless of how many times it's been done before, the take that Strange New Worlds had is phenomenal, and I really loved the execution of the premise of the episode.

@@sparshjohri1109 I missed the last few of seasons of DS9, so thank you for pointing those out. I've clearly got some catching up to do on that particular series. I was an interrogator, so the "Chain of Command" episode is quite well-known in my MOS.

@@taivo55 The Siege of AR-558 is (as Sean pointed out) one of the starkest, darkest and serious episodes of Trek ever put to screen. It's a rather haunting episode, and the continuation of it with It's Only a Paper Moon directly deals with the trauma and PTSD of war. Chain of Command is of course legendary for being such a not-TNG episode of TNG also, what with actual torture and serious emotional distress being shown. And of course Patrick Stewart acts his ass off. These three episodes might be the best episodes showing war in the franchise actually. Other than straight up conflict episodes like the first 5 episodes (I think it was the first 5) of S6 of DS9 and the first season-ish of Discovery.

@@LordLOC I will definitely be paying more attention to the "War Years" of DS9.

Tears, non Klingon teeth, I wonder if he was a bridge between the TOS Klingons and Next Generations’?

@@MoniqueLawGEN1-3 And a skull cap with hair fringe.

He may had them reformed to look more human more peaceful.

@@hephzeba2001 that is hilarious …

Same here. I noticed that. I believe the augment Klingons had human teeth after being changed back into Klingons but not positive. This definitely stood out.

I feel like Rah had a bit of an In The Pale Moonlight-situation going on all on his own. If you think about it. He strikes me as genuinely trying to turn something shameful into a force for good. That's not that different from Sisko risking the entire romulan empire to save the Federation. Just on a smaller scale. He fucked up, he knows it, got the oportunity to use it for good presented on a silver platter and went for it. Whatever he did or didn't do on that planet - his life would've ended up cushier if he hadn't taken the rep for killing his own men. Suppose there's a bit of self-punishment in the mix.

also very reminiscent of Nor the Battle to the Strong complete with klingons besiging a federation colony or outpost and a hospital in a war zone.

That sounds interesting! It makes sense.

Exactly what I thought too.

Also a metaphor for M’Banga. It’s functional. It has good days. But after the battle it’s never the same.

We can re-watch this over and over. Which, apparently, we are going to have to considering the strikes happening now. We might have to wait a LONG time for S3. I don't know if they wrapped shooting for S3 or not - do you know?

Does that mean the musical episode gets the WTF?

@@ITGuy1970 SMH? EIEIO?

I’m up for a Chapel-M’Benga prequel

I did my fair share of MEDCAPs over there between 2010-2012. Usually stuff like this (movies, TV, funker vids) doesn't bother me. I found myself breathing really hard when the klaxons went off and the computer shouted "Incoming Transport." When M'Benga killed that guy to clear the buffer my mind went straight back there.

He's difficult to hear though. Great actor but he needs to announciate a little more.

Yeah, it gives a little bit of a possibility that what she is saying is the truth but to me it was clear she lying.

She has no business telling Pike she saw the whole thing. This is where the episode expects us to ignore that there is the lie detector.

@@curtisbme agreed.

@@mikemedina7461 They don't expect us to ignore it as this isn't a trial. Pike believes his crew and they have the weapon that he thinks is Rah's. They are showing us her lie to show the bond of combat vets with shared trauma can have. That she would break her Starfleet oaths to cover for her brother.

Yeah that’s how I think it goes too. Plus the uniforms would probably have much higher turnover on the war front than on the ship.

They did mention the enterprise was the flag ship , thats why they were wearing the classic uniforms.

If you think about it, you have to remember that not all of the Star Fleet units would neccessarily utilize the same Deltas, they would naturally be modified so that you would be able to identify particular units simply be seeing a particular Delta on that person's chest. I was in the military for a good many years, first in the Army & then in the Air Force, and not all identifying uniform insignias were exactly the same. I'm sure that new information is being thought out, discussed, and then included all the time to flesh out "The Writer's Bible" to assist in continuity where all of the various shows in the ST franchise are concerned. It will also assist greatly for the eventual fan productions that I'm reasonably certain will begin to show up on YT in the near future. But without any doubt in my mind, SNW is fast becoming the absolute best series in the Star Trek multiverse. And I'm certain that it will become one of the best sci-fi series that we have been blessed to be able to follow.

@@SierraThunder Agreed on all points

It kinda is, since we see non-Discovery, non-Enterprise combat uniforms in "The War Without, The War Within". Still, I'm fine with ignoring pink Klingon blood and playing a bit fast and loose with flashbacks, especially if we get stories like this one.

@@bjorn00000 "Pink Klingon blood" was only added in post-production of that film because initial review by the MPAA handed down an "R" rating. That's likely why it was never fully canonized.

Reminds me of a line from Lower Decks: "This is Starfleet! Nobody dies from a spear!"

I feel like that is because mbenga made sure to put the knife where even advanced medical care couldn't save the klingon.

they can't or did not want too? the medical staff in med bay at the time of his death where both survivors of the conflict. them not reviving him was a choice.

@@JunkGaragehome A choice which goes against their medical vows, and further makes both of them complicit in murder. If the stabbing was indeed simple self-defense, then not caring for the victim and letting him die, ups it to plain and simple murder. ie a doctor might stab an attacker to protect himself, but then care for the wounded attacker (while ensuring they're in restraints or whatever). To not even attempt to care for him means that M'Benga's intent was to kill, not to defend.

Especially since Klingons have multiple redundant organs to help them survive.

Yes, this 100%. Zero question in my mind that M'benga finished the fight that Rah started on the planet. He could have gotten away if it was just a fist fight that Rah was starting. Capel lied about what she saw, and both of them lied about the knife to Pike. This is the darkest aspect of a dark episode, that two key crew members, close to Pike, lied to his face. I don't know if we've ever seen this in Trek before. We've seen crew lie to the captain before but in those cases it is usually that the captain knew they were lying (and the liars knew he knew) and chose not to do anything official about it.

@@curtisbme The episode was outstanding, but having said that, I believe it would have never been made if Gene Roddenberry was still alive. Really dark and dissonant of the perfect future that Star Trek has always tried to depict.

@@theundeadbeholder284 Assuming you are referring to the STTNG Roddenberry "no conflict between the crew" mandate. That was specific to TNG having evolved further socially than what we see in ToS. But since this is prior to ToS (and because it isn't based on the crew having conflict with each other) I don't see it being something that he would object to. We saw this same level of Klingon hate causing issues amongst the crew during ToS.

Here here!

It’s not just veterans it’s anyone who has lived through any kind of major war, in which missiles were literally flying overhead you could see them and was put in certain situations over many years that has left you with certain types of PTSD that when I smell or a sound, or even a person who looks like something you’re having to deal with or someone you had to deal with triggers it yeah, I’d say it was a very good episode because he got a lot of the accurately set up I have no words I’ve lost my words. I can’t say anymore.

How did Tendi not get a mention in cetacean observations?!!?

At one point you see Ortegas as one of the wounded in this episode

Yes, to me there was an issue of her not knowing or being able to accept the idea of expectant that seemed a bit off, she's doing triage and even with the organ regenrator in those conditions maybe he should still be classified as expectant because they simply didn't have the resources or time to save him without it preventing them saving who knows how many others (plus it probably being dicey whether he'd live anyway). The pattern buffer idea was great if he could be beamed into a flagship medbay but the very concept of expectant shouldn't be foreign to somebody in charge of triage (and the surgeon should've probably been in surgery not helping with triage). Then there's a couple minor canon issues with it being trivial to hold somebody in a pattern buffer and the pre-TOS shuttle having a transporter in the opening.

@@TheCritic-MMA Boom goes the dynamite!

I 💯 percent agreed, I don’t see why a lot of commentators don’t see that little nuance change in Rah… Either Join me Mbenga or else….