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Ur-Dragon vs Yuriko vs Inalla vs Marchesa EDH / CMDR game play for Magic: The Gathering 

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@cosmotect
@cosmotect 4 года назад
Seb's attack at the end makes a lot of sense. He is at 18, his opponents are at sub 10, allowing Joe to attack once morr could wipe the rest of the table and allow him to win the next turn. He simply got unlucky because Joe hit an extra turn spell
@Tehnameless1
@Tehnameless1 4 года назад
I'm Kevin and I'll let y'all know: the funny threat assessment was due to the deal Joé made with Seb at 8:20. The deal to work for him for the rest of the game. Knowing that, I knew I only had to take out Seb. It also explains the Kolaghan swing. Once it was just the two left, Seb had assumed "working for Seb" would mean he concedes
@befuddledfaun
@befuddledfaun 4 года назад
Deals like that tilt me so hard lol. Ridiculous. Glad to have an explanation though!
@AstridCeleste96
@AstridCeleste96 4 года назад
I don't fully understand. Joe was dead on board but made a deal with Seb to survive, but somehow Seb worked for you and concedes when you die?
@AstridCeleste96
@AstridCeleste96 4 года назад
@@befuddledfaun It's Kingmaker that benefits those that are ahead typically, but it can be fun. It is completely offputting in game recordings though, since its so contextual that without the dialogues we can't pick stuff like that up.
@Tehnameless1
@Tehnameless1 4 года назад
@@AstridCeleste96 "work for me" from Seb's perspective as in "work for Seb". Sorry for the confusion
@jamesklingensmith7529
@jamesklingensmith7529 4 года назад
Players at a table make a stupid deal, deal immediately bites them in the ass. I'm all for politicking in commander but that's just awful and y'all need to learn to get better at it.
@esperderek5383
@esperderek5383 4 года назад
I'm so confused why you don't swing at someone you know you can take out, and you know has a extra turn spell in hand. He's even tapped out, which severely limits his ability to respond to a few possible spells.
@Hilvarious
@Hilvarious 4 года назад
The enemy of my enemy is my friend, Seb had the most life and he knew Joe's deck was able to deal damage to each opponent, so he was comfortable letting him take them out for him, and he would of won if Joe didn't get that last extra turn spell. It's a free for all game, not 1v1 or 2v2, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
@phyrexian_dude4645
@phyrexian_dude4645 4 года назад
It depends on the board conversations went during the match. On a free for all game those can massively change the focus and outcome of the game. In my personal experience it usually those conversations end in one of the following: - A personal vendetta were one guy had enough and decides to throw the match you to get 1 player. - A 2v2 were two decide to settle things betwen them after the other two are out and the other two join forces because they have to get rid of them. - An Archenemy were one player is so ahead or its end game was revealed that everyone agrees that they must take him down. - The clown fiesta were the caos on the table its so bad that everyone is just fucking with each other. - The low profile / snake tongue / scratch your back player manipulates eveyone to ignore him until he obliterates everyone in 1 turn.
@horribleville
@horribleville 4 года назад
@@Hilvarious yeah but that enemy is also your enemy
@AstridCeleste96
@AstridCeleste96 4 года назад
Disregard what everyone is saying. Seb knew what he was doing, it was just he made a deal to turn a blind eye for one reason or another. Kevin posted a comment saying this (though he didn't give the details of the deal, just that Seb apparently worked for Joe?)
@owl_on_caffeine1416
@owl_on_caffeine1416 4 года назад
Joé had a flying blocker. How could Seb have taken him out?
@Grunik1618
@Grunik1618 4 года назад
12:26 You can hear Kevin's hand saying "Why wouldn't you attack Joe with Kolaghan?!"
@sweetkicksvideos7566
@sweetkicksvideos7566 4 года назад
Huge facepalm.
@PaulGaither
@PaulGaither 4 года назад
3:48 - Turn 4, Inalla paid three for the 2cmc creature without putting a token into play or using Scry 2 four times. Odd.
@athanasios-mariosmarougkas6625
@athanasios-mariosmarougkas6625 4 года назад
Thank you!!!
@cerebralisk
@cerebralisk 4 года назад
Remember, the difference between a bold play and a misplay is the outcome.
@imperialtutor8687
@imperialtutor8687 4 года назад
did someone lose a bet during the game? those were the worst threat assessments I have ever seen... that cyclonic rift did nothing but gave Joe the game. why didn't they gang up on him when they saw that time warp on top? yuriko should never have extra turns... surprised Pikachu face when joe won.
@Tehnameless1
@Tehnameless1 4 года назад
Cyclonic was to save myself from getting swung out by dragons. See my comment about the details
@villeneuveromain
@villeneuveromain 4 года назад
Joe and Seb did pretty strange choices during this game...
@gypsieking3280
@gypsieking3280 4 года назад
I feel like Seb's last turn should definitely had an attack against Joey
@AstridCeleste96
@AstridCeleste96 4 года назад
Apparently there was a deal made.
@SeanteBrown
@SeanteBrown 4 года назад
To my Yuriko guy, might I suggest something that gives ALL your ninjas evasiveness? My deck has levitation, cover of darkness, and intimidation. Intimidation because if you flip it, hard damage. Plus...well..you know. The clan is routing for you from the shadows 💪🏾👍🏾✊🏾
@CA-zn8hu
@CA-zn8hu 4 года назад
Loving all the consistent content Muddstah! Keep it up! Thanks for providing it during these hard times! You rock.
@savsa-yt
@savsa-yt 4 года назад
Hearing "Marchesa" pronounced correctly: 👁👄👁
@GaucheEtVeule
@GaucheEtVeule 4 года назад
The Italian in me rejoices lol
@patrickbuerke1390
@patrickbuerke1390 4 года назад
More cheese a'
@90spepe
@90spepe 4 года назад
Loved the video as alwways great stuff but this time around some mind-boggling poor decisions were taken by most players on the table lol
@smolclips5996
@smolclips5996 4 года назад
Hi Andrew!
@DarkEinherjar
@DarkEinherjar 4 года назад
So... what did we learn today? Don't assume that, just because a player is down to 2 life, they're down for the count, especially if you don't have the power to finish them off at instant speed. Always finish them off, unless they're willing to bargain to stay alive.
@fel_95
@fel_95 4 года назад
Especially a Yuriko player
@Tehnameless1
@Tehnameless1 4 года назад
There was a deal made where Seb turns a blind eye for the rest of the game. See my comment
@Someone-lg6di
@Someone-lg6di 4 года назад
Dont know why he didnt kill joe
@cosmotect
@cosmotect 4 года назад
@@Someone-lg6di because it was likely that joe's hits off the top would kill Seb's opponents, since he was at a relatively high life total. Allowing him to then kill Joe and win the game. Smart play, just unlucky
@DarkEinherjar
@DarkEinherjar 4 года назад
@@Tehnameless1 I see... in this case, Seb failed to put an insurance clause in his deal. ALWAYS have an insurance clause, like "after the other two are down, you'll spare me and let me have at least one more turn."
@phengvang5856
@phengvang5856 4 года назад
I think what seb is counting on was for Joe to finish off his other opponents since he has the most life and would most likely survive the yuriko triggers. Unfortunately, I don't think he was counting on Joe to get a time warp out of yuriko's trigger, so it basically closes out the game from there.
@clrl936
@clrl936 4 года назад
What was the point of using arcane denial on that ponder mage? Max was just trying to find a land drop. That was a scummy move and the counter could have been usefull later. Also, didnt max have a ghostly flicker in his starting hand? Why did he discard the dualcaster mage? Thats an infinite combo right there... not that it would have mattered because the game ended right after it buts it was so weird, it was probably his only chance.
@enoeht
@enoeht 4 года назад
Because most casual EDH players are very, very, very, VERY bad at using countermagic properly and wind up blowing these critical interactive spells on pointless shit that doesn't matter.
@Tehnameless1
@Tehnameless1 4 года назад
If I remember, I wanted the cards right then and there. I was less concerned about what it countered, and Max just happened to be the last in the cycle
@enoeht
@enoeht 4 года назад
@@Tehnameless1 as a Blue player that tilts me off the face of the planet.
@saintcorvic1194
@saintcorvic1194 4 года назад
I want to see the lists for these dragon decks people play because I hardly ever see ramp in them and its a mistake.
@DraculaRising
@DraculaRising 4 года назад
They might run ramp but keep bad hands.
@CA-zn8hu
@CA-zn8hu 4 года назад
I mean, he played Birds and Hoard into a T4 Balefire Dragon. And later a Chromatic Lantern. Seems pretty good, imo.
@SuperRaids13
@SuperRaids13 2 года назад
Tbh watching Joe play Yuriko was giving me a bit of an aneurism
@henrylopez4206
@henrylopez4206 4 года назад
How was that Balefire Dragon cast. I’m counting only 6 mana tapped for a 7 mana creature... unless something is reducing the cost and I am missing it.
@brandonfrew3221
@brandonfrew3221 4 года назад
The Ur-Dragon reduces dragon spells by 1
@Twoin21
@Twoin21 4 года назад
Why did seb scoop it up. Joe had no blue for the extra turn spell. 🤔
@marcocapolli9482
@marcocapolli9482 4 года назад
I see two islands in the upper right corner, isn't that right?
@DarkEinherjar
@DarkEinherjar 4 года назад
It's hard to see because his name is covering the lands, but he did have the two blue.
@ZerglingRushWins
@ZerglingRushWins 2 года назад
What's wrong with that Yuriko? Why didn't he play her as soon as he could?
@CaptTelnet
@CaptTelnet 4 года назад
This game was tough to watch. Kologan not taking out the Yuriko player was just the worst. What was he thinking?
@Ray_XII
@Ray_XII 4 года назад
Watching this with automatic subtitles on is amusing. "He casts an Is It Signet" and other mistakes made me laugh a lot
@SAGEXX309
@SAGEXX309 3 года назад
Kevin's arcane denial should have been saved for that merfolk trickster that neutered Marchesa and cost him his board lol
@jeremyachenberg565
@jeremyachenberg565 2 года назад
Am I right or.. ? Naban does not allow wizards entering the battlefield to trigger twice since Inalla is not in play. Indeed she's not a permament. So the reason why Max scried '4' was only because he paid for inalla's trigger, not thanks to Naban. 3'38''
@SilHbs
@SilHbs 4 года назад
Oh boy, Marchesa again s2 I like what I see.
@stevenh4314
@stevenh4314 4 года назад
never seen a yuriko deck win, it's pretty cool tho
@marcellosalis5063
@marcellosalis5063 4 года назад
Props for saying “Markesa” (with a “k” sound). I’m Italian and I feel my bludder contort each time I hear “Marchesa” (with a “ch” sound).
@kickinwang1817
@kickinwang1817 4 года назад
Surprisingly, WOTC official pronunciation of Marchesa is actually Mar-chezz-uh and not the proper italian "Kay" sound.
@marcellosalis5063
@marcellosalis5063 4 года назад
@@kickinwang1817 I know. And it's so lame.
@kickinwang1817
@kickinwang1817 4 года назад
@@marcellosalis5063 agreed.
@autobotjazz1972
@autobotjazz1972 4 года назад
wish i had that kind of luck with my Yuriko deck, I whiff so much with her.
@StanleyKuo184
@StanleyKuo184 4 года назад
Seb loses the game for himself by not swinging at Joe. That's a major L right there.
@fernandoveiga1848
@fernandoveiga1848 4 года назад
I get that you had to be there, but still seeing that yuriko had 3 triggers + having extra turn spells why didnt everyone focus on dealing those 2 dmg? Nice vid btw
@willemboele2079
@willemboele2079 4 года назад
definitely some questionable plays in this game that i am not a fan of
@nicholasberry8456
@nicholasberry8456 4 года назад
Yeah but I’m sure this is a result of qurantine, Muddstah can’t be as picky about the games he posts anymore.
@KippSa
@KippSa 4 года назад
Leaving the yuriko player alive = instant gg
@thehotdog128
@thehotdog128 4 года назад
The opening hand for the ur-dragon deck is such a flex (I don’t own any shocks)
@brandonfrew3221
@brandonfrew3221 4 года назад
Hey another Marchesa deck Sad that she didn't win Maybe next time though
@therubyskeleton1002
@therubyskeleton1002 4 года назад
Your voice is WAY to soothing
@sirNocilol
@sirNocilol 4 года назад
Main phase brainstorm End step vampiric Turn 4 yuriko I wanna smoke some of what joè is on because to play Yuri like that you need to be quite stoned
@haloplayer9855
@haloplayer9855 4 года назад
It make me mad that he won considering how slowly he played yuriko
@90spepe
@90spepe 4 года назад
Just gets to show how broken that commander is. A child could pilot Yuriko and win
@nitrusiide1924
@nitrusiide1924 4 года назад
I feel like to play yuriko you have to be high af and speak in a bad Japanese accent with everything you do
@haloplayer9855
@haloplayer9855 4 года назад
@@90spepe no it just shows how bad the table is at threat assessment. He had 2 life left and was signaling a win. It's not like he was countering every spell while drawing a million and at 400hp. Any deck above focused that is just left to its own devices will just win
@Schiedog
@Schiedog 4 года назад
Where’s the goblins??
@3deep4you
@3deep4you 4 года назад
So many misplays by Joe, don't understand why he did not Ninjutsu Yuriko in T2 and T3. He also could have Ninjutsu in the Mistblade for the Oni to cause the Chaos Warp to fizzle...
@DarkEinherjar
@DarkEinherjar 4 года назад
I think his topdeck options were poor and he wanted to avoid drawing early hate to himself until he could either get better cards on the top of his library or multiple Yuriko triggers per combat.
@willemboele2079
@willemboele2079 4 года назад
luckily, the other players missplayed just as bad so he could still win
@Sir_Logurt
@Sir_Logurt 4 года назад
@@DarkEinherjar he had brainstorm and vamp tutor in the first few turns, arguable some of the best spells in the deck. Idk if he runs Draco but i would have vamp tutored Draco for 1 trigger and brainstormed it back in response to the next and killed the table
@3deep4you
@3deep4you 4 года назад
@@DarkEinherjar I have a Yuriko deck myself, don't think the correct play is to attempt to optimize your triggers and sacrifice the card draw aspect. The card draw of Yuriko is the strongest aspect of the deck imo, the damage is just gravy. If you can manipulate your deck to get better triggers, great, but you shouldn't go out of your way just to do that and sacrifice card advantage.
@thestrahd
@thestrahd 4 года назад
Pondering Mage and Omenspeaker are bad cards for inalla, one is too expensive and the other doesn't give you card advantage, better use the slot for something better, also what is the point of using Inalla if the dude is not using her eminence???
@SeanteBrown
@SeanteBrown 4 года назад
More Yuriko!!!! YEEEERRRRRRRRR!!! Yuriko clan in dis b!+
@kickinwang1817
@kickinwang1817 4 года назад
Ah yes, the age old Cabal Coffers... In the Grixis deck. I don't know about that plan honestly.
@FriendlyNewt
@FriendlyNewt 4 года назад
Wizard tribal needs some love. But Grixis is one of the strongest combinations so it's good they have a weaker option.
@martinbendel6440
@martinbendel6440 3 года назад
Azami called... :D
@AstridCeleste96
@AstridCeleste96 4 года назад
Honestly wouldn't take footage from this play group any more since deals are lost without the dialogue and Seb purposely lost the game, which can be a waste of time for viewing.
@CA-zn8hu
@CA-zn8hu 4 года назад
Edh is about having fun, no? Also, you don't lose anything because someone in this playgroup played in a way you dislike. The vid is still good content.
@kevinrice1292
@kevinrice1292 4 года назад
No idea why Max didnt keep up mana for trickster, maybe he thought the other players were gonna deal with Joe, but didnt really seem worth getting out one extra rock
@xNemesiSxPR
@xNemesiSxPR 4 года назад
where is the marchesa deck list. come ooon
@Tehnameless1
@Tehnameless1 4 года назад
I haven't posted my decks online in a long long time
@amethystwyvern
@amethystwyvern 4 года назад
Inalla is one of my favorite decks
@PaulGaither
@PaulGaither 4 года назад
4:44 - I don't see anything that makes Inalla's sells cost more, but he paid 3 Mana for a 2cmc creature and then next turn paid 3 for a 2cmc Talisman. What gives?
@LeeeroyJensen
@LeeeroyJensen 4 года назад
Unless I'm missing something, the Marchesa player should have been able to return all their creatures with counters to the battlefield after the balefire dragon hit, including marchesa herself.
@brandonfrew3221
@brandonfrew3221 4 года назад
Nope, Max played a Merfolk Trickster which when enters the battlefield makes a target creature lose all abilities, he chose Marchesa
@pokeyclawz8727
@pokeyclawz8727 4 года назад
Why arcane denial a pondering mage just to have them draw two anyways. Seems like the least threatening card played
@jamespooh2
@jamespooh2 4 года назад
I always enjoy your content Muddstah
@SeanteBrown
@SeanteBrown 4 года назад
Can’t help but notice Yuriko didn’t get a mention at the end of the video 😑😤 that’s ok. Ninja still rule the night 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
@Siegorius
@Siegorius 4 года назад
Yay Marchesa!
@gabebrown2992
@gabebrown2992 4 года назад
Yo what was with the change of heart on Kevin’s side lol
@Tehnameless1
@Tehnameless1 4 года назад
I have some steal effects in there so if they make tokens I can rub it in
@tonyt4764
@tonyt4764 4 года назад
Regular boring ninjutsu 🤣🤣🤣🤣 you're awesome dude 😋
@DarkEinherjar
@DarkEinherjar 4 года назад
Overglaring Tomb
@sweetkicksvideos7566
@sweetkicksvideos7566 4 года назад
MTG Muddstah can be so very frustrating to watch, lol.
@Devilish420
@Devilish420 4 года назад
Top deck manipulation is so essential for a yuriko deck but its just too bad most of the good top deck spells are expensive af (real money wise), *looks at scroll rack and sensei's diving top*
@Sir_Logurt
@Sir_Logurt 4 года назад
Especially when you play them so blatantly wrong
@Devilish420
@Devilish420 4 года назад
@@Sir_Logurt it's so painful watching someone pilot a yuriko deck so wrong, lol.
@jemolk8945
@jemolk8945 4 года назад
It's actually not. If you just focus on getting a ton of triggers, you'll out-card-advantage everyone by so much that it'll hardly matter, and with the proper selection of spells that cost less than their CMC to cast, you'll still do enormous damage over a long enough time period. I run a Yuriko deck with no topdeck manipulation and no extra turns, and it's still really nasty despite the deliberately toned-down nature of it. If you want optimized, then sure, you need topdeck manipulation, but optimized isn't always the most fun.
@jbs6614
@jbs6614 4 года назад
for the casual crowd, lol. in cEDH rack and top are generally bad.
@cameronbustos6059
@cameronbustos6059 3 года назад
Just me but Joe really messed up on yuriko early plays. Get her out and use abilities!
@hectormorales4090
@hectormorales4090 4 года назад
Oh my, that's a GG mates.
@minijo4534
@minijo4534 3 года назад
It's so bad that inalla doesn't them male anything. I understand now why yuriko is so banned in french commander.
@lordbumus6087
@lordbumus6087 4 года назад
like everyone in these comments are going after the yuriko player for no reason. Yuriko players always get bullied for no reason. his life went from 38-27 then 27-2. if they killed him early then bottom left prolly woulda just had the game anyways, he had coffers+urborg and a stacked hand. He was an equally scary threat but Oh nO tHe YuRiKo PlAyEr HaS aN eXtRa TuRn SpElL
@williamcarswell3012
@williamcarswell3012 4 года назад
Extra turn cards are incredibly powerful if I know someone has an extra turn and I don't have a counter congrats I'm now doing player removal
@raitosureya
@raitosureya 4 года назад
Hi
@newtpondskipper
@newtpondskipper 4 года назад
I don't care I'm just glad Ninjas won out!
@곽재환-n3g
@곽재환-n3g 4 года назад
'If Marchesa has a +1/+1 counter on it when it dies, it will return to the battlefield under your control because of its own ability.' from gatherer 8:55
@brandonfrew3221
@brandonfrew3221 4 года назад
Merfolk Trickster made her lose all abilities so she wouldn't come back after dying 8:38
@Dannerrrr
@Dannerrrr Год назад
@@brandonfrew3221 This is why sac outlets need to be prioritized in marchesa.
@travisbrandt8663
@travisbrandt8663 4 года назад
*trying to think of what to type in comments because I secretly want to ask andrew where he lives in canada so i can play some magic games with him and the goblin gang*
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 4 года назад
Ottawa
@travisbrandt8663
@travisbrandt8663 4 года назад
MTG Muddstah 🤯 *mind explosion emoji*
@minijo4534
@minijo4534 3 года назад
FREE EXTRA TURN BRO
@AidanWR
@AidanWR 4 года назад
Naban tribal. Unfortunate
@grimgamer1420
@grimgamer1420 4 года назад
Absolutely hate Yuriko...
@afspeellijstnaruto
@afspeellijstnaruto 4 года назад
Seb....You should have killed Joe :/
@RhythmOfWaterTV
@RhythmOfWaterTV 4 года назад
Seb should of too out Joé
@xNemesiSxPR
@xNemesiSxPR 4 года назад
Stupid gamr, they should had killed yuriko long ago, no idea wtf the dragon guy was thinking. Anyway marchesa played well, represent lol
@maxmaier7023
@maxmaier7023 4 года назад
That was the worst threat assessment i have ever seen. Seb couldve taken out joe when he was at 2 easily and prevented him from going off. I cannot realistically believe that seb was that unaware of his opportunity there. I dont wanna call seb dumb, but that was one of the dumbest decisions ive seen in a pod. Absolutely horrible, and made the rest of the game painful to watch, given the outcome. Absolutely painful mistake.
@jemolk8945
@jemolk8945 4 года назад
Is it? If we keep in mind Seb had the most life by a solid margin, then I think it makes a lot more sense. Yuriko will kill his other opponents before she kills him, and he can easily kill Joe at any time (or so he might think). I can understand the thought process, and while it didn't pan out, it would have without the second extra turn spell off the top. He'd have a much harder time winning by battering down several opponents than by sniping them when they hit low life. Even when something turns out badly, that doesn't mean it was a mistake at the time the decision was made, with the information available then.
@izzybelle9337
@izzybelle9337 2 года назад
Yuriko is super lame
@HydraQU33N
@HydraQU33N 4 года назад
Man, dont know how joe won, literally couldve been killed by swinging once with a flier, but no one did it, terrible threat assessment
@proggyboi972
@proggyboi972 4 года назад
This game was kinda a train wreck. The ur dragon and yuriko lists should certainly not be played in the same pod. Nobody should be responding to a balefire dragon with vampiric tutor it's absurd, the only reason yuriko didn't win sooner is because they arbitrarily gimped themselves turns 2 and 3.
@aibalta6340
@aibalta6340 Год назад
Joe try not to play most dogshit yuriko deck challenge: impossible. Fr tho a toddler can play yuriko and win half of the time. How's he choosing all wrong plays.
@Cookie_Nova
@Cookie_Nova 4 года назад
Hi Andrew!
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 4 года назад
hi!
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