@@localman9063 Because what he was saying isn't even remotely close to truth dude. He's never acted like that in his previous videos, that's why we're saying he's hacked. We're talking about misinformation, fool
The gap between American public belief in their capability vs their technical reality is so big,, when their bubble universe pops they're going to be so psychologically traumatized they might just become like Japan after the A-bomb, which is a good thing. I mean, imagine going to war thinking China has nothing better than 1970s Soviet jets, and an hour later your entire navy gets wipped out by Chinese orbital strikes....
A lot of cope in these comments. I served in the USAF until 2010. The qualify of Airman, and civilian for that matter, has drastically decreased. We are not a prideful innovative country anymore. This all makes sense.
@@javiergiribaldi3579 So what? Why develop for billions when you can copy and evolve for millions? All nations do it and have done it, it’s a smart way to frog leap the evolution. In the end, it’s just as good.
@MrCastodian The issue is that the USA hides its true capability and has logistics to support any capability. Th e US Military always hypes enemy capability while downplaying its own capability capability
The US Air Force is more ready than any other nation. After we saw Russian performance in Ukraine, we should learn that other nations are full of hot air.
Tech growth like that is not linear, and China is benefiting from the build up princple. Its easy to get rid of really old systems but as it continues to upgrade it will face headwinds from things like higher maintenance cost of the newer upended systems just like the Americans currently face. Thus, overtime China's tech growth will slow down.
No, they just sell their old stuff to Russia or give it to their sole ally North Korea to stop any advance from their south. They have 1.4 Billion people and the most massive industrial base the world has ever seen fueled by the 3 most massive oil producing nations on the planet Saudi Arabia, Russia and Iran. The US left billions of dollars of weapons and equipment for the Taliban...do you know why? Because we had warehouses of that stuff stockpiled and it would have costed more to bring it back so we left it. China is probably in the same situation. They probably have stockpiles of this stuff and not even scratching the surface. They are a huge factory. There wouldn't be maintenance cost. They could just produce a new one and not even think about it.
The world's factory running $1 trillion a year in trade surplus can probably handle maintenance cost better than an de-indusrliazed country running $1 trillion a year of trade deficit.
A large part of American military expenditure is to maintain overseas military bases.The cost of really investing a lot of weapons and equipment research and development and production will be similar to that of China.What's more, China's arms procurement is lower than that of the United StatesBecause we maintain a huge number of workers and production equipment.
Love reading the comments. You have children arguing with adults. Suddenly everyone is an expert. Stay close to the truth. If China built garbage, the US will not be panicking and follow with sanctions after sanctions. Also, 20 years ago, a word from the US will scare the life out of China. Now China is talking back with no consequences. Go back to school, educate yourself. I am old and retired. My children are successful in what they do. I warned them and my friends that my grandson should learn Mandarin.
Underestimating China is always a bad idea, but so is being afraid of them because they supposedly have XYZ in however many numbers. Faced with any serious opposition, they will prove themselves a paper tiger yet again. They wouldn't have to exaggerate the capabilities of their systems if this weren't true, nor would they have to cover up defective equipment due to the characteristic corner-cutting of their industrial complex. As long as we take China seriously as a threat, they can posture and "talk back" all they want to, they won't dare make a move that we'd have to respond to with any serious force. They'll just let other countries make all the moves and try to profit from it.
China isn’t directly threatening America because it knows it will lose. What it is doing is to threaten its weaker neighbors. It has little innovation. Instead it copies and reverse engineers. But it constantly fails for many reasons. The numbers comparisons have little to do with reality. Send 1,000 ants against 10 humans. Who wins?
With only one overseas military base, China is the only one that uses its military for defence. Americans have 800 overseas bases, with 400 surrounding China. Insane aggression.
@@Omni_Shambles Yeah, because they just claim that everything they want to invade was actually China the whole time. Ever heard of Tibet or Xinjiang? Or when they controlled Mongolia? Not to mention in 1979 they invaded Vietnam, that one they can't even deny.
Here's what I keep coming back to. TO THIS DAY, China has yet to design and develop a jet engine in house that is deployable to any aircraft. They have been trying for decades. All of their current aircraft, as well as the vast majority of military tech, are Soviet designs in origin. They have made modifications, some improvements etc. This is across the board, even their most recent aircraft carrier, it's fundamentally a copy of the first, which was purchased overseas. Their trucks, their tanks, radars, optics are all rooted from copies of Soviet era. And we see how that equipment has performend in Ukraine. To compound that, almost all engineering that is even deployed in China is engineered by Western companies. Even the most popular cars are licensed or were designed overseas. Their entire railway/subway infrastructure? Designed by foriegn companies and use foreign technology.
Majority of PLAAF fleet are equipped with domestic WS-10 engines . WS-15(F119 equivalent) enter mass production this year. China’s railway and subway system are the best in the world, US is not even close.
@@isamu982 They're still in the development and testing phase. It's only been this month of this year that they announced that they were endeavoring into serial production of a small scale, for test flights. But last Dec someone from a university connected to the design and development posted a since deleted and muffled video where they mentioned they were getting closer to having something that would go into the testing phase. Let's not forget that most of this technology was stolen from the US. After decades of struggling to design and produce something domestically they were able to acquire some stuff through espionage which has widely been reported in the past. Now let's now confuse this with actually deploying it into a fighter jet in active service. The reality is that production is actually the hardest part. You aren't just producing the engine, you're producing all the manufacturing capabilities, tooling etc. Just go produce an engine. Then you have to deploy it into whatever aircraft. To compound that, there are a lot of indications that the whole project was severely rushed bc people were pushed and that there are issues. Double compound that with the fact it's a hodge podge of the work from many projects. Also China has a long history of announcing many things, producing many prototypes, small runs etc... Years before they do. Most of which never came to be bc of all the issues encountered during the phases they would now be entering if you take their word. Even if all went well, you're still 5-10 years, likely closer to 10, before actually having an engine to move into production. And I don't know at all that that will be an easy path, especially as there are increasing restrictions on many things that they will need to overcome or design and produce domestically. But it's always possible for things to go the other direction. Just unlikely.
You just weren't paying attention to actual analysts, just chewing up Russian Propaganda the Rural Conservative Christian Americans Gladdy Share because during the Cold War the Russians Infiltrated the Churches and more importantly Lodges the Rural Conservatives Live off of...
Unlike Russia the Chinese motto is to copy from the best and the military had been propping the usa as the superior enemy they have to surpass if you check out Chinese propaganda about the usa. Also unlike Russia who think they are the best, China admits they are not so they invested heavily into espionage and hacking to catch up, the csis got a list of Chinese espionage in the usa, its worth checking out. Schematics like the f35 program for hacked, same with the Navy getting hacked and the Chinese getting plans for nuclear powered subs, anti ship missiles and even the latest Chinese destroyer looks like a 1 to 1 of the future destroyer proposed by the us navy but was put on hold due to budget
I mean, based on Russia. Involvement in Syria, the assumption would be that their military is highly competent. There is a big difference between fighting small forces that have a limited ability to fight back and a peer vs peer war.
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I don't think many people get the point of this video. He didn't say China has the advantage over the USA. He said the USA used to have a huge tech lead over China and China is now closing that gap very quickly. USA needs to innovate to keep its lead is the main point. (which it has been with the NGAD program and the B-21 Raider among other projects.)
I think they do. China needs to catch up another 10 or 20 years in development. But maybe tehy already do. It is like the Soviet Union, they have it, when you see it. But i guess China will not be able to catch up with the Wests innovative potential. Then i think about demographics and think will will see a second Soviet Union.
thats typical for binkovs comment section, for some reason he is a Ukraine,russia , NATO, China propogandist at the same time. some people cannot imagine that the dude just gives his two sense into it
My thoughts With such a huge population its inevitable that China and India will eventually overtake the USA Well china is pretty close but india still has a century to go
it's not about absolute strength, its about the ability to apply force around the Pacific sea lanes, and Taiwan Straight. Remember that the US pretty much has to defend everywhere all at once. China only has to worry about their sea supply lines. China's overland trade is very limited, but also very secure, possibly with the exception of Pakistan.
@@earth9531 Eh… in the event of a war, the US would most likely draw down its forces elsewhere to focus on the Indian Ocean and Pacific Ocean. China defending its sea based supply lines is, currently, completely impossible, and not looking easier as China antagonizes India, as the “Collective West” is poised for economic decoupling, and as Japan remilitarizes.
@Lycanthrope Prior to the Russo- Ukraine war, the collective internet cockringed the Russian military as a near peer to the US. It's not. With China, it's worse because, what conflict has it really been involved in? It's not proven. Neither has Iran, India or any other country onto hat end. It all sounds good, hypothetically.
The time for NATO to produce is now, and NATO is barely keeping up with Russia.... In the grand scheme of things none of this even matter anymore, because when China already figured out Mach 20+ global hypersonic orbital strike in 2021, and US can't even figure out how to make Mach 5 ARRW work (look up the news), unless China in-explicitly refuse to use what they build, the entire US military is basically already dead.
@@vlhc4642 Russia is a dead and finished case. All the Ukranians are waiting for now is for the soil in May or early June to dry up and with all the help in equipment they got from all Western countries they will kick out of Donbass Luhansk and Crimea the Russians. Remember how their counteroffensive worked and they got back what the Russians trying to occupy for at least 6 months? Possibly they will invade some kilometers into Russia to take over some nuclear silos for Russian Nuclear Command cut them of from it and manage to have some nukes in order to prevent again an new invasion from the Russians on their territory. Russia will be lucky if it doesn't experience some more regions to declare their independence from it. Last but not least they are in great danger from China that would easily embrace it lethally in the economic sector and literally make an economic invasion. On the other hand it would not be impossible to think that China will make an extensive military operation and cut a big chunk from its soil especially Siberia for its rich resources. As for comparing the two airforces Binkov hasn't actually followed closely the fact that Ngad is almost ready that US has found a new skin for it's F-22 that also allows them to be impervious to laser beams and that the US navy is equipping both its carriers and it's subs with pulse laser weapons with hundrends of kilometers range.
The main issue i see here is most chinese stuff is unproven. They have impressive data and numbers but that has never been put to the test. US been putting itself (or proxies) at war (for good or bad) since forever and are continuously testing their equipment on real combat scenarios. That an edge China does not have. It could be a paper tiger or a real tiger, no one can tell until they (china) or their equipment get into a real combat scenario.
@@minus21334 if a plane can fly and comple the mission of attacking a target precisely and come back in one piece, it is a favourable point. Also, Israel also use US planes and they put that through a lot of use.
@cheetocato Agreed. The exception, I'd say, is the use of Chinese drones in Yemen. Even if tested against weaker opponents, being able to test your equipment in "live" conditions is a key advantage American products have enjoyed for decades.
Unlike CCCP, China does not position itself as a global empire based on offensive ideology. It only needs to form a regional advantage over the United States in the east Asia. When analysing Sino-US conflicts, Americans can only count its partly military force in the Asia-Pacific.
Chinas military can’t even travel across the ocean. All of our aircraft carriers are nuclear powered and can outnumber chinas Air Force with our superior aircraft that China has been attempting to copy for decades. Once the Air Force is taken care of we just bomb them into submission. And that’s just US not all of NATO.
I would not assume that China doesn't want to be in a position as a global empire based on offensive ideology . There are warning signs such as having secret police stations in Europe etc They have been an empire before . Its not unfeasible to think they want to be again The CCCP was elected by the people of China .
Currently they’re shooting for local hegemony, but their attack on the dollar and their “Roads and Bridges “ program throughout Africa, South America, and Europe shows their eventual plans.
Things are certainly not looking good for US. In the National Defense Strategy released by Pentagon this year, the military recommended US use 'comprehensive defensive strategy', meaning to rely on combined use of military, diplomacy, economic/trade, soft power to counter China. One interpretation is that US military power is no longer a 'I win' button it used to be. When military itself is recommending not to rely on military alone, you know they are not confident they can prevail.
Well ya no duh, the military is just a big social experiment now. We meed to lose badly and be embarrassed globally so the administration can fall or change.
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The blogger is very disappointing, using the map of China is actually wrong, the UN map of China with Taiwan, to you this is gone? How can we talk about fairness if we don't understand the most basic?
The key difference is China has no military obligations outside of China. America has entangling alliances all over the world. America has to maintain 1,000 military bases around the planet trying to defend American interests EVERYWHERE. China has it's entire Air Force and Military focused on East Asia. The American military (as technologically advanced and as powerful as it is) is far too spread out. As the old saying goes, "He who defends everything, defends nothing".
Remember when Russia was supposed to be a big bad bear? They ended up being just a baby bear. Until I see the chinese military in use, I will remain sceptical. Quality over quantity.
Usually Russia is shown like big bad bear in context of nuclear ballistic missiles. Those didn't gone anywhere. That's just western media are focused on telling US citizens that they should spend a little more money on Ukraine and soon it would win. So Russia should look weak in CNN news now.
@@dm1i ya know having shit tons of nukes doesn't an awesome power make. Ask France. lol. Really man i don't think Putin would survive the coup that would occur after he orders Armageddon.
China stealth (J-21) is at least a generation behind F-22/F-35. Surely China will be 2+ generations behind with NGAD / B-21 Raider entering service soon. Further, China STILL has issues producing reliable domestic turbofans. Meanwhile, the U.S. will be introducing adaptive cycle turbofans and *likely* active flow control (no flight control surfaces required) into B-21 and NGAD projects for greater stealth and aerodynamic advantages in the near future.
lol, nobdy can surpass USAF, they are too long in the cutting edge technology game, they know everything about previous tech and future 15+ years tech minimum.
Anyone who still insists that China only copies other nations technology should know that the recent ASPI (Australian Strategic Policy Institute) report states that China is now the world leader in 37 of 44 strategic technologies that are essential for the development of future military and civilian and commercial applications. This report shows that the Chinese investment in STEM education and research and development (scientific/technological/engineering/mathematics) is now paying off. It's easy to talk about how China only steals and copies from other countries but the fact is that China is rapidly becoming dominant in many different sectors, topics, industries and technologies. The abilities of Chinese researchers and technicians, scientists, engineers, etc is common knowledge, for example the percentage of graduates and research and development staff in the best US/British/Australian/Canadian/European universities and institutes (Yale/Harvard/CalTech/MIT/Princeton/Cornell/Colombia/etc) that are from ethnic Chinese backgrounds is 20% plus (in the Ivy League colleges), and ethnic Chinese students do so well that they are being actively discriminated against, because they are so over represented and have had to start lawsuits to sue certain institutions, to prevent them from being discriminated against for doing so well. The average wage in China in the early 1980's was about $300/400 per year, compared to the average wage in the US in 1980 which was $12,500 per year. So the average American made 40 times more than the average Chinese citizen back in 1980. Or to put it another way, 1 American citizen made more than 40 Chinese citizens. Today, the average wage in China is $13,000 per year, compared to the average wage in the US of $58,000, the average wage in China has grown by 40 times and the average American wage has grown by 4 times in 40 years. In other words, the average American makes 4 times more than the average Chinese citizen. So in 40 years, the difference between the average American salary and the average Chinese salary has been reduced from about 40 times more to less than 4 times more. The typical American still earns more than the typical Chinese person, but it is rapidly getting less and less every year. My point is, many people think that the Chinese are decades behind in technology, and are earning a few dollars a day, and many people believe that China can only produce cheap and shoddy copies of more advanced countries. That might have been partly true a few decades ago but the fact is that China is now a world leader and a major economic, political, industrial, technological, cultural and military superpower. Another thing to remember is that China is improving and growing more powerful much faster than any western nation.
ASPI is the Australian Strategic Policy Institute, the report I'm referring to was published in March 2023. The 44 technologies are in the field of defence, space exploration, robotics, energy research and development, the environment and environmental protection and management, biotechnology, artificial intelligence, advanced materials, and other key technologies that are vital. The report states that in some fields of research, the 10 leading research institutes are all in China. "A key area in which China excells is defence and space related technologies. China's strides in nuclear capable hypersonic missiles reportedly took the US intelligence by surprise in August 2021". The situation is similar in the development of stealth aircraft, the US has the F-22/F-35 and a new stealth bomber. Only China has been able to finance, development, test, manufacture and deploy domestic designed and built stealth fighters (J-20/J-35) and the new H-20 stealth bomber. The Chinese PLA Airforce already operates over 200 x J-20, and the J-35 is being finalised for the PLA Navy's aircraft carriers and the H-20 strategic stealth bomber are nearing production stage. For a country that was still building versions of the Mig-21 in the early 2000's to be able to design/develop/test/manufacture 3 different types of stealth aircraft is an example of what is happening in China. The fact that established aviation industries in the UK, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Korea, Israel, Sweden, Russia, etc haven't been able to do the same as China and the US Aviation and aerospace industries is a sign of things to come in the near future.
You have to keep in mind that half the commenters on here are western plebs who get most of their info about China from memes. I love the effort you put in to explain, but it's likely going to fall on deaf ears.
Yes but a China isn’t proven and has no history to base claims off while USA has a deep history of success. It’s like a boxer who is 10-0 fighting a boxer who is boxing for the first time. You don’t want to underestimate the new boxer BUT my money is on the proven boxer.
Everyone has been underestimating China for decades. I’m a US citizen with South Korean parents. China took on the UN without much outside help and fought them to a standstill because they were underestimated. Many others have underestimated China and paid the price. We should not do the same.
Many Chinese civilian products that can be purchased online now use AESA radars, such as DJI's T60. But in the comments, a bunch of anti-China bots try to convince others that the Chinese military does not have the this technology🤣
@@richardholsapple5063 there is still hundreds of American soldiers rotting in Afghanistan to this day 😂. Their life was worthless they died for nothing meanwhile taliban heroes died to free their county and they succeeded
@@uekvowzkaebbzuvrgipqxhemmwbhe pot calling the kettle black speaking of worthlessness. So what’s it like being a mouth breather who is of no significance?
They hired them to teach them the vulnerabilities in the platforms they piloted when they were still in service. Try being more slick if you want to be slimy.
@@swedhgemoni8092 the thing is those platforms that was used by those retired pilots most of them are no longer and use and outdated. The weapon systems and avionics of the current 4.5 and 5th Gen fighters are far more advance than the older 4th gen fighters. Even the tactics were changing. The f35 pilots for example is doing less flying of the aircraft and more on gathering information and analysis. Unlike before generation before it that is heavily reliant on AWACS/ command and control to know whats happening in the battlefield. On the US doenst need to hire retired chinese or russian pilots to teach them.
@@romell06 I am talking about the news that leaked in 2022 of them having paid off British pilots to brief them on subsystems of aircraft they flew, you cretin. If you think the shinajin actually hired guys who flew in the grandfather years of the Cold War or early GWOT, well, you are in the double-digit IQ slot.
How many wars did the US won? Korean,? Vietnam,? Afhanistan,? Iraq,? or Syria? Or the trade & tech wars on China? Definitely the US has won "free Navigation?" to some extended; won on losing the credibility war of the Dollars-Reserve status. That has shown how " experience" the US is on war strategy! 😅😂
In summary, China has more and better large AWACS planforms, while the US has more smaller AWACSs. China has much more twin-engines, heavy payload fighter jets, which means PLA fighters can go further and carry more missiles. USAF still has much more aircrafts in total number. More stealth fighters. More strategic bombers etc. But the gap between these two super powers is nothing like the gap between the US and Iraq, or Iran, or Afghanistan. Conflict between them could be unimaginable. But as you said a war in real world is complicated. How to win a war heavily depends on geopolitical situations but not equipment (as if their gap is not huge). If one of them start a conflict and make the conflict near one’s border. Simply put, if the US start a war in SCS, I don’t think the US will have the chance to win as the theatre will be too close to China and to far away from the US. And China simply won’t attack pearl harbor like the Japanese did in WWII. So the best way to avoid conflict is that the US military keep a low key in Asia-Pacific region. I hope there will be no more wars. No more conflicts. Using money to explore the Universe instead of arm race will be better to humanity.
The fighting men of America will not go to war for the new rainbow empire, and welfare mercenaries/liberals can’t fight like real patriots. You guys will win if you have the balls to take a stand.
Nobody think so. On the other hand, if US army go into such war, it will not fare much better than Russia. Ukraine is poor, but don't forget it is still a big industrialized country. Its capability in war is much stronger than Iraq.
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Given how persistent the "Russia stronk" mythos was and how immensely overestimated their quality of military has been shown to be, I wouldn't be surprised if China has been using public perception to mask glaring weaknesses. We have yet to see their military engage in any real significant action. We have not seen the quality of their tactics nor the capability of their officers. All we have is what they say about their tech and what they say they can do.
I will say the mid ranking chinese military staff are voracious learners and engineers, they have a quantitative and qualitative edge in anti ship missiles and brigade level motorized artillery and indirect fire support, they have finally scrapped their shitty bullpup for a pretty well designed AK/m4 lovechild and have very recently integrated night vision into their mountain assault troops. But at the same time they also have dated shit like 2nd in command political commissars attached to every brigade (yes the warhammer 40k kind of commissar, who is only there for "morale support and paper work, who will definitely not execute cowards for retreating or make stupid military moves") (i also cannot give you any source because i only learnt this fact through reading bilibili comment threads) and they clone russian engines, because puzzlingly they cant design their own decent jet engine designs yet. They are definitely a military rival, but even i dont fucking know how much meddling and internal politics will kill their military just like the Axis powers in WW2, the Soviets in Chechnya and US in vietnam.
Chinese militaey and russia military are pretty much different, russia military are pretty much stagnant after the fall of Soviet union and most of their equipment are from cold war soviet union. while china military are growth exponentially and their military equipment are brand new. And also China now are adopting western military tactic rather than russia. So assuming chinese military performance are like russia is pretty much absurd
Riiiight. Even the Indians laugh at the J-20. China lost comms with its simple Mars land rover; meanwhile the American one has been launching helicopter drones on Mars.
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@@vlhc4642 our enemies are going to help us scrap many of those all too soon and we're going to be happy we have a bone yard to pull even older planes from.
Of course it took longer for US to develop this stuff they did most of it first, the Chinese just followed the blue print, it’s like that for everything.
US just cancelled Mach 5 ARRW after 3 failures while China already demoed Mach 25 global hypersonic orbital strike 2 years ago, why is US so slow to catch up?
Interesting. One additional thing that comes to my mind is that US force is spread around the world over many and distant locations, this could have a huge effect in case of a regional conflict with China despite the tech edge
They can all be moved. It's not like every single plane would attack China at the same time. They have missions with small groups of planes. The U.S. has 700 military bases all over the world and would be able to attack China from anywhere at anytime. Lets not forget their 12 nuclear aircraft carriers. The U.S. navy is the 2nd most powerful air force in the world, after the U.S. air force.
@@demun6065 Yea, if China attacks Taiwan, the war is going to look like that meme pic of a tiny white girl on her knees with a bunch of big black dudes surrounding her.
@@demun6065 the most likely scenario would be that america amps up supplies of arms to the first island chain and the quad and then tiptoe around, pretending to actually try fighting china. Kinda like in ukraine
Direct comparisons between U.S. and China overlooks the fact that the U.S. also has more powerful allies than China in the region (Japan, Taiwan, S. Korea, Australia, etc.). Any confrontation would likely involve an overwhelming coalition.
yeah very confusing that the CCP decided to bash their head directly into so many countries and gave the US one of the most geostrategically strong hands in the pacific, good luck fighting 4 2nd tier militaries and the most powerful military in the planet
China can easily defeat anything the US can field in the pacific. This is why I propose we increase the defense budget to 2 trillion dollars. -Lockheed stockholders
Before watching: It is always easier to catch up, than to innovate ahead. So closing the gap makes sense to me, steal the tech, observe the technology, backwards engineer, etc etc.
And none of that will mean ANYTHING if you don't have the resources or the money to make it in the first place. That is exactly what sanctions do to your country. And for reference, that is also why Ruzzia is unable to produce any more tanks.
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Considering NATO lost to the Taliban and are now running out of shells just fighting a proxy war against Russia, do you really think you're in any position to compare yourself to a country with more industrial output than NATO + Russia combined times 2? I mean, just a small fraction of sales from a single Chinese consumer drone company is carrying the war for both Russia and NATO... fun fact, the PLA doesn't drop grenades DJI Mavics, PLA have so many drones they use the Mavic as the grenade.
@@andrewsmall6834 China's GDP is within a hair of the US, and it's growing much faster. Don't delude yourself into thinking they are a poor country by any means. They have over 20x the wealth of the Russians, and if they wanted to could some day compete with the US in military might.
If Binkov could have included Muslims along with Russians in this scenario … then the comments section would need military intervention itself … And it's always fun when it's a scenario where there's been real world ethnic national conflict.
I'm all for it. Ultra nationalistic trolls are the best entertainment you can have. Just watch quietly as a few people tear their hair out over an idiotic comment war in the comment section of some random video.
@@AlreadyTakenTag Yea the best ones are the one that still think Russia is undefeateble and could even challenge the us if they only would start send in their "best" stuff
Chinas biggest problem if they went to war with the US would be how much more advanced us satellite surveillance and targeting technology is, Chinese admirals are more anxious about missile boats than carriers The biggest problem for the us would be Chinas saturation missle strategy which relies on an industrial base the US just doesn’t have, and theres not a lot of ways to deal with that without inflicting massive civilian casualties Either way it would be a grind fest with substantial losses on both sides, and not something the world wants or needs
"Chinas biggest problem if they went to war with the US would be how much more advanced us satellite surveillance and targeting technology is" And not the fact that they would be facing the most powerful nation on the planet?, complete with 29 MORE allies?
Welcome to a channel where everyone can share their thoughts, opinions, expertise, suggestions,ideas or can oppose,refuse,accuse, counterattack others as if everyone has the same right to exercise their freedom of speech and liberty.
As always the comment section is a good example of "Freedom of speech", I'm glad the American forefather fought for this, so their descendants can use racial slurs and hurl insults at others on the internet.
Okay, somewhat true but if we get into a fight and you have a butter knife, and I have a 357 Magnum who's more than capable of winning that fight? You must understand the hand is not quicker than the eye!
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@@tonymills5086 A .357 magnum in the hands of someone who does not know how to use it can loose to the man with the butter knife if he is an expert in hand to hand. But the F 22 is the most capible air supperiority fighter in the world, not to mention the F 35. The PLAAF relies upon rather early 4th Gen fighters than anything else. The PLAAF does not have any experience is managing ie, command and control, of the actual chaos that is air warfare. Just in the past month the US has forward deployed a squadron of F 22 to the region.
It's not that the USAF has lost their edge. Priorities (set by the few at the top, not the soldiers or people) have been altered for making war a business and the main priority in getting rich. If the states was ever threatened with war or got brought into a world war I'm sure you'll see the innovative minds invested into again
This video is so misleading because the video is taking an account all types of aircraft and the US military has thousands of more aircraft than anybody else and has thousands of air refueling tankers and transport aircraft and ground attack aircraft and all of those aircrafts do not need AESA radars and most of the types of aircraft I just said, don't even have track and fire radars on em lol. Videos is sssoooo misleading. Also, US military has hundreds of AWACS aircraft that has zero need for AESA radar lol. Again, US has 13k aircraft....China has less than 4k aircraft....so duh....the percentage wise of AESA radar count would make it seem like, China has and uses more AESA radar aircraft...jesus....video is so misleading....also....don't forget that China uses 1980s Russian engines for their(china) newest fighter lol 😂😂😂😂 China can't even manufacture its own powerful and reliable engines...
Not even close, they're trash pandas trying to fight a lion. It'll be quick but painful... for the Chinese. Of course it won't come to that as the U.S. will cold pot their economy as they're already doing RIGHT THIS SECOND, they preveriable west is "STRATEGICALLY DECOUPLING" from China.
China has no combat experience in air, sea, or land. That’s a fact. Even If they have the edge over US technologically it’s still not enough to overcome US air superiority.
Is that good? China haters said china is aggresive but when capabilities discussed suddenly china have no combat experience which is not a sign of aggresive country
I think Vietnam also did not and some terrorist groups. I think training + resilience e.g the japs and power in numbers can also give an edge. If they can mobilise like in the Korean war, any edge the us has with combat experience shrinks. There's no question that experience matters but I imagine if they mobilise, are used to harder living conditions e.g russian in ukraine right now, mass produce (turn their whole industrial base into manufacturing for the war), and get advisors from countries e.g UK pilots, USA pilots plus battlefield advice from say Russians during the actual war like ukraine is getting from the US, then they can diminish most of the edge that the us has. Training follows doctrine, and the US does not have the training to counter all forms of fighting e.g guerilla warfare which they are now good at thanks to invading many countries but you see where this is going, every foe is different
Does US have experience fighting a proper air force since the Vietnam war. The pathetic Iraqi Airforce does not count as they hardly ever managed to take to the skies. China also last faced a similar adversary in Vietnam in 1979 so both the Air Forces are at similar experience levels.
The big focus on disparity in numbers between the AWACS aircraft is misleading. US' advantage in sensor fusion (particularly with 5th gen aircraft) is a force multiplier that increases the effectiveness of each AWACS aircraft compared to their Chinese equivalents. The video also only compares stated numbers of aircraft and capabilities which ignores the extensive US advantage in combat experience, integration and battle proven systems. Until China engages in a large-scale conflict, it's anyone's guess how effective their military is but it's safe to assume this dry analysis of numbers leads to a very optimistic conclusion for China.
China have surpassed US in science and technology, nature index which is indicator of elite science publication, china have surpassed US 19000 vs 17000, in scopus engineering the gaps is far wider might be 2-3 times higher in 1-10% citation, u can check cwts leiden as well
that stuff does not matter as much as you think, e.g fighting terrorists, there are ways to combat all the advantages of a more advanced army e.g you can have more men, outproduce cheaper munitions eg if they are producing HIMARS, for each(they are expensive) produce 5000 less expensive munitions and just trade with them, out manufacture guns, tanks, sell their debt. A war btn china and the USA like any other war, would be a 5yr plus war, so if your citizens are used to harder times, if you have more control of the media, if you can manufacture more munitions, if you have more men, there are so many advantages.the us would never even battle china directly, can you imagine losing 1m service men then the army has to recruit again, this is nothing to china. they can mobilise your entire population
i dont agree too about the Australian wedgetail EWACS plane being kind of old tech. That is the best EWAC in the world with unclassified 700km radar ranges. what is he claiming that China has a 1000 plus km range radar in there plane is laughable. Even the Saab Ewacs plane a value for money but cheap less capable plane for poorer countries has a radar with 350-400km or so , i dont think China would have better sensors and radar tech then Saab.
Many operations against who, they've never faced anything close to a peer in many decades. Does beating up on 10 year olds show you've proved yourself in combat?
The difference between quality of the USA and the CCP it’s pretty large. The US Air Force has superior pilots and superior tactics with real world experience. China’s Air Force has none of those.
China was just caught paying an old US air force fighter pilot training the PLA. They have zero real world experience and would get destroyed by the very experience U.S. air force/ navy. It's not even close....
might have been true 15 years ago. but according to the usaf's own numbers, the average pilot flight time per year is now actually less than the suspected chinese pilot flight time per year. also real world experience bombing some dudes in a desert who have zero ways of threatening or even detecting your jets is worthless. the military and congress has been making noise about how the us military needs to update itself tactics-wise specifically because experience in afghanistan is worthless and even counter-productive if it came to war with china. meanwhile the chinese train consistently under the assumption of having to fight a numerically and technologically superior foe.
@@deebil8099 I hope that American troops will use their combat experience in Iraq and Afghanistan to engage Chinese troops. Refer to the combat experience gained in Iraq and Afghanistan. China will certainly not destroy American satellites or use satellites to find the location of US troops. And certainly will not use missiles to attack US logistics bases and aircraft carriers. There is no way to find American stealth aircraft, and no stealth aircraft pose a threat to American early warning aircraft and aerial refueling aircraft. It is impossible to use a large number of drones to attack the US military. Will not destroy power plants, chemical plants, steel plants and shipyards in the United States with intercontinental missiles. And the number of weapons is small, can not be replenished at all, and will be exhausted in a very short time. When the war begins, the US military must remember these valuable experiences, which are the key to whether the United States can win or not.🤣
America is falling behind on air tankers too. But if the war actually went hot I suspect America could close the gap with insane speed. We just have such a longer history and experience at building military assets.
Build it with what money? You see you need to pay people to do work. We use to make all of our money from being the world reserve currency and the petrodollar. That ends soon when Russia and China along with BRICS implement their own swift system. Saudi Arabia is already taking the YMB for oil transactions. America is broke AF! All those millionaires and billionaires. lol. Monopoly Money.
@@mrknowitall8663 lmao, just lmao. The US and it's allies have the most productive workforces on the planet, they have some of the richest supplies of natural resources, and have an extensive global network to protect the shipping lanes and areas where they need the rest. BRICS is certainly capable of being a very powerful influencer in a so-called multi-polar world that China envisions, but to disregard the West's technological, industrial, military, educational, and economic strength over BRICS doesn't even make sense even if you think BRICS is desirable over the West. The West in a full-on WWII style level of commitment to wartime production would absolutely dominate over the BRICS bloc. Of course, that means nuclear exchange would be next, which is why these foolish conflicts are absolutely asinine and insane, and must never be allowed to come to fruition. Nuclear Armageddon is a losing game for every player, even the one's that aren't involved in a direct conflict. I'll take the UN/US's unipolar world over the BRICS vision of a fractured multi-polar world any day of the week
@@Big_Red_Dork Also brics shouldnt even be considered much. For example, India and china hate eachother so their cooperation isnt a thing when the whole thing is dominated by china and other nations are very backwards in technology
"When strong, declare weakness so as to secure funds for R&D. When weak, steal, exaggerate, threaten, and stage military parades." ~ Sun Tzu revised for 21st century
Haha, nice. But it suffers from the same problem as the original. Sometimes, the strong look really strong and the weak look really weak, regardless of what they do.
When weak, tell everyone what you're building 10 years before you build them When strong, send out Gordon Chang and Peter Zehan to tell everyone you'll collapse in 2 month.
@@alexlazar4738 True enough, but military parades and bragging about military stockpiles can fool adversaries until corrupt militaries are used for illegal invasions.
@Wiegraf I can't imagine how even a ztupid pro-P00 troll could believe that the US's geopolitical strength has fallen in comparison to the 2 P00stans. Of course, ztupidity knows no irrational bounds.
I think these two militaries are just reflecting their different priorities. The Chinese need to look for stealthy American aircraft and aircraft carriers. We need to slide our aircraft into Chinese airspace undetected. But the big leaps are still happening in America. We got a new species of engines coming for the F-35, and our Sixth Generation fighter has almost certainly already flown. The only thing I worry about is hypersonic missiles, since we seem to be having problems there. But you know what? We flew a glide hypersonic system for decades. It was called the Space Shuttle. :-) [Edit] Also… if you’re going to compare Chinese and American stealth, you need to include the Super Hornet. It not Fifth Generation, but it does have stealth. Probably as good as anything China has.
Red scare 🤣 I’d be more worried about the mass shooting that go on daily in your home land…. If America didn’t get involved in everyone’s business there would probably be a lot less hostilities in the world I mean america prove themselves inept in looking after there own citizens there are places in a America that look worse than bakhmut 🤣👍
This reminds me of the old days when they said the same about the soviets. Then the cold war ended and we found out that they were 15 years behind in many aspects. The Chinese military haven't demonstrated anything - no combat experience, no successful demonstration of Chinese technology in action. Even Iranians are more dangerous than the Chinese at this point - at least they demonstrated that they have some dangerous military hardware that even Israelis are taking into account
The biggest difference is China has 1.4B people, and a huge number of Engineer graduates. Its economy reached 2/3 of U.S. in dolars and exceed U.S. in PPP. Actually before the Korean war, Chinese has demonstrated nothing to U.S., Macarthur said they would have Christmas in home land, but a lot of them are buried in cold Korean peninsula. Same goes for Vietnam war, the only difference is China did not go by itself this time, but acted as a support line force.
Biggest problem I have with this video is that China does not have a 5th generation fighter. What they have is a step above 4th, but still below 5th. They have nothing that compares to the F-35 right now.
@@JiveCinema it's a 19trillion dollar( 30trillion dollars by ppp)economy close to 22trillion dollars economy of us in gdp case and bigger than us economy in ppp case. Russia is a 1.5 trillion economy( 4.8 trillion ppp). If you consider china as same as russia than your delusional.
@@JiveCinema buf china is not at all the same as Russia. China gdp and economic influence in Africa and asia makes the gap astronomically large. Even US allies like Japan and Philippines does more trade to China than US.....
This video does not take into account geopolitical events that are pushing back on Chinese access to new technology. The rate of which China will progress will be seriously hampered moving forward. China has expended massive amount of time importing or stealing NOT developing technology. So many Chinese "innovations" have been based on industrial or military espionage. By cutting access to mid to high level technology I don't see China being able to sustain its development. And with the upcoming upheavals with a demographic collapse along with a major pull back from capital investing in China, I believe we have already seen the largest gains in Chinese development both economic and military. Finally the video does not mention that China has NO friends or real allies. Its wolf warrior foreign policy and attempt to annex vast areas of the South China Sea has turned the West and much of Southeast Asia including Japan, Australia, South Korea, Taiwan and the Philippines into alliances with the US. In any confrontation with China they would not just face the US but a slew of powerful allies.
Why is it then Huawei is banned in the US? They're just copies of Iphone right? Nothing to be scared of 😂. Oh, Tesla also buys some of its batteries from Chinese companies now (BYD).
@@LawAbidingCitizen117 Lithium batteries and the network components used by Huawei are not "High" Technology. Huawei's technology in networking is less about its level but the ability to produce relatively base technology extremely cheaply. Banning Huawei is based on the components being able to collect data that corporations in China MUST when asked report to the CCP. Low or mid level technology can pose a threat but it's not something to be scared of. And this was not the point of the video that focused on the relative rate of advancing technologies. My point is that it is much easier to copy technology than develop it yourself. IMO open Western oriented companies and Universities have a competitive advantage in technology innovation due to their questioning of assumptions and challenging the accepted way of thinking. If you have ever interacted with visiting Chinese students it's pretty obvious this is not there strong point.
Binkovs last words were very crucial. "War is not shaped by technology alone...in certain parts of thr world, it's also based on politics and geography..." Taiwan maybe. Do you really think US will be able to dedicate 100% or say 50% to fight in the backyard of China and prevail. Nobody knows. I'm no expert either, but all empires fail eventually historically, the Romans, Genghis Khan, Ottoman, the Brits...
To these Amerifags, he's only not biased when he makes negative remarks about Russia. The Gulf war was already 32 years ago. Let it go. You still can't get over that high you got by effortlessly steamrolling an already weak and incompetent rival.
If the west jointly wouldnot help. Russia is fighting against 20+ countries indirectly. America even didnot dare to attack iraq by itself only.Russia is a brave nation unlike the coward USA.
To be honest I think we're developing things more advanced than we think just because we don't parad it around that doesn't mean we're losing our technological edge
Weapon systems have to be tested extensively. Where are these secret weapons systems being tested and show me where I can find them in the public record of the proposed legislation needed to procure them. I use to think this way to. We have this big secret weapon hidden somewhere. No we dont. Our best weapons are the F35, F22 and nukes.
@@uknwarrior7980 Because AGM-183 is an actual hypersonic cruise missile, not a ballistic missile like the DF-17. For context, the USSR and USA both had hypersonic ballistic missiles in the 70s.
It is pretty important to keep in mind the more secretive aspects of BOTH militaries. China likes to surprise the west with sudden breakthroughs, while the west likes to keep the latest and greatest behind wraps as long as possible.
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I cooperate with watch rapairman. Around 2 years ago he bought two china made machines for checking and fixing watches. They had exact tech spec and functionality (at least on paper) as best swiss machines while beeing cheaper... Now they are kept in storage to remind him never to buy this stuff again.
Whether or not China will close the technological gap with the US is less important than the question of how to defuse the tension between these two countries. China is a growing force that sees history on its side that is being constraint by the United States, they are determined to take their place in the world’s first row of global powers, and they are fully conscious of the fact they are running short of time. Their use of authoritarian methods which alarm the Americans so much is their most useful way to progress as fast as they have so it’s back to the first question posed here, how to defuse the tension? The whole world, especially my world in the shadow of China here in Malaysia, waits breathlessly!
Autocracies can be good at completing tight, repetitive tasks. Democracies are better at handling the atypical. Autocracy can impede horizontal ultraism in teams, stifling innovation. Bosses always being right, might work in a factory, but not in a war.
I think that's fair but I don't like the sentiment in this comment section of out right denial. If there is a decent tech disparity that's an important part of the conversation. I think this video is good for the US to understand the difficulty that a conflict with China would bring and plan accordingly. Right now there isn't enough competition between companies for producing high class weapon like there was during WW2. So the US has to do something to give the military a better chance at weaponry in my opinion.
Remember... China built their own space station and before that happen no one believe China can built their own spaces station but in reality they really successful built their own space station. 😅
@@remogatron1010 no, but neither is ukrainian propaganda... it's valuable tool for Ukrainians fot morale, but non-ukrainians don't have to be delusional.
Where would be Ukraine without western radar, satellites, shells, military vehicles and so on? Only a real fool think that Russia is in a stalemate against Ukraine. Unluckily for you, you seems to be a fool…
Did we watch the same video? Binkov didn’t say Russia would steamroll Ukraine, but that they would have a large advantage initially and get bogged down by logistics and other factors. This was without western aid being considered. Considering what happened irl it was a surprisingly good take.
@@StalinLovsMsmZioglowfagz Ye Europe has had enough and iw ouldn‘t really associate russia with europe, thats a hole nother country. Europeans are tired of wars, we just want peace freedom justice and security
We have some excellent long bowmen, and guys in metal suits that are killer mean with a mace (get it, killer?). And I believe we have three or four trebuchets, as well, and one siege tower. Don't worry, we are prepared. :-) Actually, now that I think about it, that would probably be almost adequate against Russia.
Wow, so many people beating their chest in the comments. Binkov said they are catching up, not that they are equal already. To underestimate a threat is to fail to create an adequate response.
China does not have to be equal to win since the fight be around China's coast not the US coast. So, China will be able to bring 100% of their planes while Us can do hardly more than 60%. Also, almost all US planes will have to be refueled to reach China( Taiwan) so you can have only a very limited number in the combat zone at any time so China will have at least 3 to 1 advantage. Not to mention that China does not have to fight those planes, just attack the tankers and all enemy planes will dive into sea when they run out fuel.
@@alexlazar4738 B1s are stationed in Guam and lots of Allies surround China with F35s that china can only track but not target. But hey at the same time China copies because they don't have the production capacity to build stealth fighters.
Its funny because Binkov is also behind on his China data, and Americans can't even handle that. What can you say, Americans are addicted to copium, might be a bad thing if you want to win, but a great thing if you want to live with losing.
These two nations will never go to war. Today young generation have different mentality in compare of our elders generation. Every nation having a hard time to recruit new blood to join military. What does it tell us?
yes they will. liberal democracies have hard time becaue their kids are dumb but strong goverments like China's keep their eye on their people to not be corrupted like those of west
@@michaelstark8720So what you mean is that they filter all of their civilians information and banned freedom of information to make there citizens "Smarter"?
China is only just now managing to copy stealth technology, which the US introduced in the 1970s. The gap is definitely closing, but not as quickly as China’s population pyramid is inverting 😳
- China still imports Russian engines as they never managed to make a decent turbofan. - They still rely on retired Western pilots to train their pilots as they lack combat experience. - Russia cannot have air sovereignty against ukraine that operates soviet fighters with garmin guidance. Imagine Ngad against this lol
@@Kevin-tv9rv These engines have 20 times less durability than those of Russian origin, but that will be solved with the help of the Russians... as always.
@@goodlife6277 Russian engines are notoriously known to require high level maintenance which made the Chinese heavily dependent on the Russians. This is remedied. The Chinese have been making their own and they’re more reliable and need less maintenance. You’re selling the Russians too high, they’re Fkn shit at engines