US Ukraine aid breaks deadlock while European allies consider Iron Dome style defences 

i'm so glad the conversation is shifting to how money is spent rather than how much. far more important.

The whole of Society must come together to rebuild our military might. We need a strong leader to drive us through this decade of war!

> set a template for a European copies of Iran's Iron Dome defence systems. Surely you meant Israel's?

Iron Dome for Ukraine was the first thing on everyone's mind, and the answer then was: "impossible for an area this large" ?!?

We have no defence against missiles?- We seem to have no doctors,dentists,decent roads & hardly any hospitals properly staffed either. But we do have thousands of our newly arrived 'friends' ensconced in 4star hotels while many ex soldiers live on the streets.They are not a good advert for joining the services.

"breaks deadlock" is present tense. It hasn't happened yet.

Johnson/Trump TOXIC!

Todays missile's are not the the V2missles that hit London 75 years ago Britain can build a missile system with Ukraine a shared friendship together. Ukraine has the knowledge Britain has the means together.

The US defense budgets for decades has been to mainly counter the Russian threat. Recently (possibly thanks to Ukraine) China has taken 1st position. Since the last couple of years our annual defense budgets have exceeded 800 billion I'd say 60 billion to Ukraine is a heck of a deal to finally close the Russian issue with none of our boots on the ground so we can concentrate on the next real threat.

This will be very disappointing that no missiles defence for UK, I don't think so.

Untold billions have been spent to develop high-energy laser beam weapons that, according to military reports, can shoot down missiles and even drones in a fraction of a second. These lasers are land based and also mounted on war planes and naval ships. You need to look into this and make a report. If this laser technology works, there will be no need for missile defense systems.

Does UK have any air defence systems? Let me guess, nothing modern and just a few can operate better than Trident?

thanks to Putin's "Defense Incentive Program". He deserves credit for NATO expansion and "DIP". Nice job!

If money won't buy a better defense, then obviously the solution is more INTELLIGENT defense spending and more INTELLIGENT defense design.

The video description looks like it was written by a 12 year old....

It's actually Kyiv Keeve not Kiev Kiev is the Russian word. And Kyiv is not Russian. Ukraine 🇺🇦 is Ukraine.

😂 _"Britain Stands Together With the Ukraine"_ The gift that keeps on giving...

Most UK citizens would forgo the soon-to-arrive Tory tax cuts to ensure the nation is adequately prepared!!...

He says we don't have anything like iron dome, but don't we have Sky Sabre which has replaced the outgoing Rapier system?

What we have no AWACs coverage! SERIOUSLY?

There is a huge problem with British procurement. Ajax APC was a good system in use in other countries but the MOD wanted changes. For minimal gains we had massive cost increase a lack of compatibility and a suspension system that made troops sick. Astute and Dreadnaught submarine costs have skyrocketed as MoD change specs. We have aircraft carriers with no planes and both RAF and Navy had to go for the short range less capable version of the F35 because MoD wanted to save money on catapult. And we don’t have the ships to defend them. It’s a FUBAHR caused by our own systems which need an urgent overhaul.

All major western countries should have layered air defence for critical infrastructure. Iron Done is one of Israel’s three layers. Ground to air defence is the cheapest sustainable system. Air to air defence is very expensive- requiring the air craft fleet and is dependent on expensive missiles. Layered defence can use a combination of laser, missiles and guns (CWIS). No country except Israel has adapted to life in the missile age.

More wars equals high inflation. Poor life quality. Higher taxes

his supposed 'recipe' for change just sounds like giving up - rather than some specific clever efficiency new defence plan

Ffs we don't even have bunkers

Half-cocked is Britains strong-point.

Correction: The description should refer to Israel's Iron dome, not Iran's

To your headline - When exactly? This year, next year, sometime, never?

We have land-based Sky Sabre but NATO air defences could stop a lot of missiles and drones over Europe before they even reached the UK. The prospect of the Russian navy firing on us from the Atlantic is pretty remote.

Everyone is oblivious to the fact that Donald Trump signed off on more funding for Ukraine several months ago. It's only a couple Republicans(actually libertarians) that have been holding this up Their leverage is threatening to unseat Johnson. It only takes 1 to start things rolling. That's house rules for either party. It's only a problem when your party only holds a slim margin.

it's all very well but who is going to make this stuff we don't make stuff here in the uk it takes years to train engineers who can make this stuff we just stack things up in shops and sell it and most of it comes from else where not the uk

The Americans went through this problem during the 80s and 90s. Why did we not take a leaf out of their book? Also maybe not having such a top heavy military would be better?

A-10s would be more beneficial than the f-16 in my opinion

If the iron Dome stopped some of Iranian missiles, it doesn't mean it will stop advanced Russian missiles

Note well that modern armaments are cheaper by the dozen. When designing Patriot/Iron Dome systems, no one considered the scale of the current drone/missle throughput we're experiencing today. Computers get cheaper, and so will ABM loads.

"Drone Wars" , Starting to Look Like Movie "Terminator" !! Who Knew...

HRM ships have capable AA weapons, but them are few

The main problem with our defence expenditure is politicians using it for job creation. We spent £3.4 billion trying to develop our own maritime patrol aircraft before abandoning it and buying the American version that was available in the first place

Lets remember the Russians wont be firing catusha,rockets. We saw iron dome couldn't do anything with iran .so lets not over play our hands please lets make peace

What is the point with a missile defence. Just have missiles oneself that one can fire off against the enemy

I think its a given to have an iron dome system. We definitely need something as our armed forces wouldn't cope if Russia invaded with scuds. The politicians of this country are totaly incompetent and need to step up to protect its people,after all protection of its people is its first priority.

MTG is not right wing at all. Right wing left wing: neither. She’s plainly crazy bird.

I have to disagree on the Australia part of this equation. Australia is raising defense spending to 2.4% of GDP, is investing 5 billion dollars into Rolls Royce nuclear propulsion facility in the UK. They have committed to building 17 frigates, with some to be built overseas for delivery this decade, the rest built in Australia. Ultimately it will be building 8 to 12 nuclear powered submarines of the same type that the UK will be building. Rather than pulling back from Australia, the government needs to be making certain that 11 of those newly announced frigates are Type 31 frigates, with obvious benefits for British industry. Australia is already building Type 26 frigates. And in the long run, Australia will provide the economies of scale Britain so desperately needs for the AUKUS submarine project. It is very much a two way street with the Australians developing the Ghostshark drone submarine, which may become useful for the RAN, plus, with the Americans, developing a new class of drone missile ships. The refocus on Australia and the Indo/Pacific in recent years has been part of a resurgence of British naval manufacturing long term. Building missile defenses and North Atlantic defenses are essential, but get that defense spending increasing. 3% does not sound all that high, encourage Australia to also increase spending to 3% and build ships and missiles in both countries. We are all stronger by working cooperatively, and besides historic ties, Australia is an ally that is getting very serious about defense spending - it is a good country to have a very close defense relationship with.

Why do we need a defence system for London? That's where the enemy live!

The issue with MOD defence procurement is common in our public sector. Procurement is both over regulated and frequently a race to the bottom to deliver customised solutions at the cheapest price. It doesn’t work. Buy quality, proven off-the-shelf solutions for mainstream capability. Good enough is good enough. Then choose a point of military specialisation and that’s where we must spend the money for the cherry-on-top more bespoke or customised capabilities.

This Great island has been a fortress for 1000 years, it's a no brained to me it a fortress again

Some Billions Support Now , OR, 7 TRILLION $$ LATER is TOO Late...

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Despite what solar head man says , Britain is perfectly safe from either Russia, China ,Iran or North Korea unless the British Government get funny and cause an existential threat to any of the above countries. However going by what Cameron and Macron has been threatening recently with their reckless suggestions for Ukraine the this situation could change quickly ,and rightly so.

The Russian offensive in the summer of 2024 will bring down the Ukrainian front line. This is reported by Politico with reference to high-ranking officers.

all of the support and development for defence has been privatised, of course it costs a fortune, they'd privatise the MOD if they could.

How can Europe have Iron Dome? Israel is tiny.

MOD procurement is a joke. It needs root and branch change.

Seems the armed forces share identical problems to the NHS, police and education with increasing amounts of cash going less distances the more politicians are allowed to benefit from contracts with private firms, the only logical solution is paying politicians more to set up a committee and tell us they need more money. After paying tax, mortgage, bills and food I almost broke even last month I'm sure I could spare another 5% or so.

IT Does Take R&D/ Money to stay AHEAD of our Enemies , or , bend over...

Keep giving money to Ukraine! It works! 😂😉😂

Buy the right systems, now contracts are given for expensive and uncapable products for political reasons, not technically or cost effectiveness

David Murrin covered this ages ago in a report that allegedly reached Boris Johnson when he was in No.10. The answer is a first line of defence comprising naval destroyers with anti-missile weaponry stationed up and down the coast and a second line comprising iron dome type systems critical infrastructure points. Not London though. London doesn’t need an iron dome system - there’s nothing worth defending there. Better to defend Whitby in Yorkshire as it’s got the ‘early warning’ Fillingdales base and the lucrative Woodsmith mines close by. And this argument about accepting a smaller role in the world is nonsensical. Investing in a navy pays for itself by boosting trade and securing trade routes.

Why can’t we use some of our own ship missiles defence just placed on high land to get a better view we have old ships with them and just make new ones we do for ships and fit them on land same thing and cheaper than other similar defence batteries 🤷‍♂️👍🏼 makes sense ships do the same thing just at sea just fit them to high land also 🇬🇧🇺🇦👍🏼

There is a huge difference between European allies. There are state-of-the-art systems during construction and deployment like Polish multiple layer defence structure and the countries with almost no plan and no money alocated in it, like the UK. The iron dome is simly the lowest layer of defence, created mostly against the cheapest flying devices. There is no point in coordinating of such a project within Europe and it is so difficult that almost impossible, taking into consideration specifics of the countries in a possible conflict. However, a kind of European cooperation in the highest layer of anti-ballistic defence (an equivalent of Israel’s Arrow 2, Arrow 3 and similar American systems) is a good idea. That is why the countries like Poland, France or Italy which are much more advanced in building the system could also join the initiative. Anyway… it is a very vague idea now and it will not deliver earlier than in next ten yeras. Please, don’t use the terms like ‘the iron dome’ misleadingly. Even if this discussion is interesting, there is a lot of ignorance in it.

What part of any escalated war sees us needing a weapons defence system for conventional weapon attacks? Who could reach us? What circumstances would see them use conventional weapons over a prolonged period? How would one of the most densely populated countries in Europe be able to shoot down missiles safely without killing significant numbers in the process? If the missiles are coming from the east geographically id guess they will be travelling over many of our EU allies.... What will they have to say about missiles in their airspace? The absolute last thing we need to worry about is conventional missile attacks. If we have upped our involvement in either conflict to the extent that we are engaged in fully fledged war the weapons used will clearly wipe ourselves and the aggressor out instantly. I would expect the UK to use the most lethal response available if any nation dared to attack.

Europe needs an integrated missile defence system though cheap drones en masse could be hard to defend against??Laser system could be part of the answer if it works!! UK should not look outside Europe and the 2 aircraft carriers were a total waste of money!!

This Iranian strike helped everyone, but Ukraine, win: Iran has "retaliated". Netanyahu has "defended". USA has shown off the might*. Russia diverted help and attention from Ukraine. *USA doesn't negotiate with terrorists unless the terrorist has nukes. What will USA do next time when Iran tests a nuke?

This bit about Iron Dome sounds kinda silly. You are the United Kingdom ... search your memories ... there used to be these large metal things, water tight, long and pointy, some had guns on top. What were they called? I wager you could put some missile defense gadgets on the top of those things, and then protect both home and abroad.

Please let NATO buy Patriot. It’s a proven system and Germany Spain Romania and the Netherlands have just placed an order. Germany is going to start production. If NATO or EU countries get together on a bulk purchase the price tumbles. What we don’t need is a huge procurement bill because we want to-tweak it or build our own different system. May be worth comparing to Iron Dome to see if there is a noticeable gain. BAE could even try to get a licence to build in UK

Israeli Iron Dome -Nice name - is NO wonder defense system. - Like Always - its been over Hyped.

The obvious option cant be mentioned, since it is not "politically" correct.

He is going to bring each part of the aid package in a seperate bill rather than together.

ah... the problem with sending only one ship... yeah... good point. people know what is going on, everybody has internet. everybody can lookup how many ships a country has got. also how much money they spend on defense... :D i guess it is kind of pointless to send one ship. the "natives" there will not be afraid and look t it saying "woah... this ship... the uk really shows presence here, we better do what they tell us or they will invade/destroy us" :D hahaha... maybe this worked 150 years ago... either you build, have and send there massive amounts of ships and carriers with fighters... OR.. you you have one super amazing super hero ship that is technological so advanced it scares... like it could have active camo, not even swim in the water but hover over the water, and it should have violet lasers too... maybe a star trek-like shield!!! or... you just leave what you have home and spend the money better... :D sure no, that really is a good argument. but... not even sending one ship!! will result in total ignorance. the people there will absoultely do what they want. china would go on rampage instantly. it is more about the sign, the statement... sending one ship is better than sending no ship! and if 20 nations send 1 ship, the total already is a significant fleet. but i agree that there needs to be more money put into the local defenses as well. irondome-esque defenses make sense. do both!

"Iran's Iron Dome defence systems" Times Radio

Of course there won't be a bill on the border brought forward unless completely unavoidable - if the border situation improves significantly, it could dent Trump's chances come election time.

Give up the Falklands?

Your 'Description' text is saying that Iran has an iron dome system that Europe wants to copy? hmmm... Who posts your videos and writes these very poorly worded descriptions? You sound like a bunch of amateurs 😅

100% accurate. Now we need 2 democrat parties to go with the 2 GoP parties.

50 countries and their puppet master USA proxy Ukraine against 🇷🇺Russia and they lost 😅😅

I think Johnson will bring three individual bills to the floor and then just not bring the Ukraine part to the floor at all. This whole thing is designed by Trump and Johnson to delay and prevent any aid to Ukraine at all.

Please stop saying only republicans get mad about the border. We all do check any polls. I just don’t agree with things like pushing people back into the rio grande .

Stop poking the bear. Safer and cheaper.

the USA is one f$$ked nation. a coup has taken place an unelected person has taken control of the government and nothing will happen without his approval. This person is fully aligned with Putin, the GOP is now the PUtin Party as they work to advance Russian goals in Ukraine.

Inviter poutine aux commémorations du débarquement est un impératif. Dès son arrivée en France, on le met dans l’avion pour La Haye, ou il sera accueilli par le tribunal international de justice avec tous les honneurs dûs à son rang.René.

You guys have a missile defense system called Sky Sabre, and it's highly accurate. I can't believe the amount of information you are putting out about your own country. My only thought is you are trying to drum up support for more military spending. You say your money isn't being used effective? All you did was point to numbers. You guys go the route of less but more technologically advanced (also why you need less soldiers btw). Look at the tanks given to Ukraine. The Challenger 2 is by far the best over the Leopard 2 and M1A1 Abrams. This is one of the worst segments I've seen by Times Radio.

iron dome can not go against 300 drones rockets russia sends 5000 like hamas did wil burst trought remeber 5000 hamas rocketa they said it was a lie more like 50 maby 300 from so far away hits 14 places 5000 from around corner hits nothing strange informations

Support Ukraine , for Golly Sake , and , You SAVE YOURSELVES . ...

TERRIBLE title, not mere clickbait but entirely fabricated. This is supposed to be a respectable news and current affairs channel.

Irans iron dome???? Maybe stick to copying Israels

Solution...Make peace with Putin.

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❤Ukrainian ❤

Iron dome is an excellent idea!!

right on. never waste money on a lost cause right? keep sending till it hurts.

If the tories think they can make money out of iron dome, then it will appear.

Waĺrus

Oh, more billions for the Military Industrial Complex of the USA to supply the 'dome'.....this stuff never ends!

Money for war but NOT the poor ..

Don’t come to Canada . We are very good at announcements and posing pretty boy PM who couldnt build an outhouse.

Iron dome could not stop Iranian hypersonic missiles, Israel only shot down the subsonic missiles and a lot of slow drones. 1200 million dollars were spent in a few hours.

I really think you, Brits should not comment on the speculative aspects of our politics. You do not understand them. This is a bill to send support to everyone but Ukraine. He will not bring that to a vote but with this bill he will get enough Republican split that there is no chance for a discharge petition on the good lend lease act bill. That we all really want.

Ukraine ain’t getting Jack poo

There's a lot you can cut out of the budget. All that mental health BS won't be needed once people are actively employed and given a purpose.

The last commenter has it right, and sounds a bit like Trump. Although he didn't say it directly he did imply that it's time to put the UK first and avoid costly military actions abroad. MUKGA!