USB-C audio sucks: Bring back the headphone jack! 

i approve of this idea

@@pcworld Grinding Gordon's Gears

Maybe like a...Rant of the Week?

MAKE IT HAPPEN PC WORLD

You know what really grinds my gears?

They're trying to copy Apple, but they only copy the bad features from them..

Well i think that for them to have water proof pgones they cannot suooort 3,5mmjack. I would never buh a ohone without the 3,5 Jack, but i understand that for some companies they focus on using your phone under eater when the usb c or your earpugs are not eater proof xD

Samsung has IP68 water resistance AND a headphone jack, so you can have both

I personally don't mind if they go with a balanced 4 pin jack. At least you can argue it is better than a 3.5, which removing the jack will never be.

They did it to save money lets be honest

Much better to go the illegal way and put an earphone jack into the phones yourself

There is absolutely nothing wrong with the 3.5mm jack. It's absurd these companies need to compete over thinness. We could all use a bigger battery and we could all use a few of these convenient features.

@@johnpetrov6602 it has nothing to do with thinness. It has to do with selling extra accessories and Bluetooth earphones for extra income

It's not so much about selling bluetooth accessories, but more of trying to push the market towards a wireless future. Tech will never advance if you don't force it to adapt. Necessity is the mother of invention.

Wireless will never be as reliable as wired. There will always be packets dropped in UDP. You don't need to force market in a different direction when there's no need to move to it. Wired headphones work better.

Yes. Absolutely. Just got a pixel 7 pro and I love it so much... But. This. It's seriously making me consider selling it and keep using my Samsung S10 with the headphone jack. Bluetooth can't match aux quality even now. Also had this exact issue with dongles. Tried 2 nothing. Wasted 20$ and produced extra e waste which is always fun. Thanks apple

​@@OutOfNameIdeas2i was just inches away from making my mind and buy the new S24+, which is quite expensive for me but still I thought about giving it try, but suddenly the thought of car aux came into my mind, and now I won't be changing any phone soon since my car has only aux option and the aftermarket bluetooth just sucks.

so are fingers and dildos but they still use those

You plug in type c without looking at it as well...

851995STARGATE type-c is reversible, even though you might not look at it, you still have to make sure it's "flat"; rounded connectors have 360degrees of orientation; not just two positions of right-side up or upside-down

Yu Xia and you can repair it manually with an iron and very little knowledge in electronics.

@@TheEpicLinkFreeman you made me chuckle

Yes, I normally use Bluetooth. I have my 3.5 headphones on the Bluetooth receiver. If I run out of the battery, I just unplug the phones form the Bluetooth and connect directly to my phone. No extra dongles needed. If my phone battery runs out, I hook my power bank to the USB-C. No extra dongles needed.

Depends on what headphones you get. Some last for over 24 hours on a single charge

I do remember having to buy new wired headphones every 3 months

Kevin Contreras My headphones last about 40 hours on a charge.

Remember when phones didn't exist AND everyone just communicated in person or through mail. That's how stupid your comment sounds. You're stuck in the past, grandpa.

...and Bluetooth headphones are CRAP! Yes, they remove the clutter of the wired, but I'll be more than happy to let the hardware do the job with the analogue port instead of the software doing the job, which can easily go wrong at the most unexpected time. I really have learned that lesson the hard way.

@@FAT8893 Oof... Did your phone's audio stream switch from Bluetooth headphones to speaker at an awkward time 👀

And having to charge your headphones is the stupidest thing ever like what if i forget to charge them? And the best thing about headphones is that they last a VERY long time but with those AirPods, once the battery dies, its gone.

Which aren't good for your brain.

Its what determines what happens in the market.....

We can’t live in the past. Everything else is going wireless.

I did. Instead buying Xperia XZ2, i bought XZ1 👍

@@evilutionltd Wireless (Bluetooth) audio have a lot worse audio quality! No, thanks!

Right, that is the best way to demand it, the only problem are the bunch of conformist who accept corporate decisions instead of question them

You should look up samsung flagship phones. All, all of them have 3.5mm jack.

Just don't buy phones without 3.5 ,bastards will put it back in a heart beat. I myself wont buy 1 and Im using headphones about 3 times a year ,but fk em ,I want option to use 1-2$ headphones if I need to... Cause most time I want them on some trip ,when I forgot good 1 or its somewhere in the luggage...

No it doesn't get with time

Yeah....because of the sound quality and convenience

+harshit Namdeo, last time I checked the stupid wires they got are anything but convenient and you can get decent sounding bt earbuds from china for sub $30. The ancient jack is going away not coming back, to make room for superior bt technology, get with the times. The usb-c port is also going away btw on iPhone, the goal is to make a phone without any physical connections.

Not for long

And OnePl.. Oh.

Use mine every night, no making sure something is charged just plug and play.

Too bad audio quality and driving power on my Galaxy S8+ blows. Samsung needs to take a page from the LG V30 and put a decent DAC and amp in these expensive phones!

That's one of the reasons why I have an LG. I have skipped a number of phones that I was interested in all because they decided to leave off the headphone jack. That's a no go.

@Nano Nano and water resistance, and specialized cooling pipes, and microSD expansion, and more radios and sensors than ever before, and curved display, and wireless charging surface. No room excuse is bs.

and LG is all that but with best audio...

@@albocaj5975 but with none existing long term updates. I received for my P880 (flagship back then) only one update. While the other have much more. PS.: My S7 at least received Android 8.0, don't know about their update policies now but back then it was shit, that's why I switched to samsung.

@@elimalinsky7069 so fucking true, samsung phones nowdays give you everything you want and honestly people saying samsung phones are bad are still stuck in 2013

I used to hate Samsung but they seem to be the only serious phone manufacturer

You know you're stuck in the past when it's not just apple doing it but all other companies are as well. There is no need for any dongles Bt earbuds are actually very cheap and 100x more convinient. Btw it wasn't done to make it thinner, it was to waterproof and use that space for something else because 3.5mm jack is pretty bulky actually where space is at premium.

@@harshnemesis oh STFU Samsung had water resistant phone with headphone jack It was done only to sell u overpriced apple dongles and earbuds

@@evila9076 I'm not saying it's impossible, dumbass, but the water resistant headphone jack is patented and YOU as costumer ARE PAYING for IT whenever you use it or not.. I'm so glad iPhone just got rid of this ancient relic instead. The dongle was included for the peasants still wishing to use their $3 Walmart earbuds and last time I checked any $4 bt earbuds from china work with the iPhone, so your argument just falls apart there.

@@harshnemesis Getting rid of the 3.5mm on the iPad Pro was STUPID!!!! USB-C Digital audio BLOWS compared to Analog audio. If Apple really cared about us "creatives" like they always claim to in their marketing, they wouldn't have removed that, as you called it, "ancient relic". Damn, average consumers like you drive me crazy!! You are ruining it for the rest of us that want to do more with our phones/tablets than simply watch youtube or surf the net.

@@risquedj Not true Analog sucks.. you're probably a vinyl hipster too who thinks vinyls sound the best... haha what a walking joke. iPad is just a smartphone with a larger screen... it's not exactly stupid... it was never intended to be used with musicians and what not... people are just retarded and don't know what laptops are for. I'm not a regular costumer but for sake of the argument let's pretend I am. No you're ruining it for the rest of us... the needs of few don't outweighs the needs of many, you moron. The fact iPhone or iPad doesn't have a headphone jack, but you think you need one, is your problem... Apple never claimed their devices are for everyone.. you're the one using them outside their intended purposes so either buy a freaking computer or use the dongle, I don't give a shit, the ancient connector is going away not coming back, lmao

Its all honestly just business and shareholders screwing the customers, heck Sony was one of the first industry to bring ip68 with 3.5mm jack but fucking sell outs they removed it on their newest xz3.

Samsung needs a removable battery again and they're phones would be perfect

@@carrottoponcrak too much of a trade off honestly unless you're prepared lose ip ratings considering qc is common nowadays

@@kai-jf2vd if you're seriously worried about water damage on your phone I think you need to reconsider taking a phone with you for whatever you're doing. Companies design these phones for you not to have a case because it makes them and the insurance companies more money, and they know removable batteries can actually hurt their profits because their phones have a longer lifespan. I used to work in the phone industry for years, it's a giant scam between the manufacturers and the insurance companies. No one wants you to hold onto your phone for more than 18 months because they lose money

Removable batteries aren't going to come back, because of the way batteries are tariffed. Phone manufacturers went non-removable because a non-removable battery is considered an essential component of the phone therefore are not tariffed separately while removable batteries are. So the profit margin on a phone with a non-removable battery is just slightly better and more stable than it's non-removable counterpart.

That leaves you with Samsung and LG..thats it. even OnePlus has decided to drop the headphone jack. fucking tragic

Anirban Mukherjee I have no issues with Samsung but that doesn't mean I don't want there to be no point to consider other phones. THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT OF ANDROID! But nope. The more expensive the phone the less important the essential headphone jack becomes. Imagine how stupid you'd feel in a situation where you're with your friend, who owns a $300 phone and a situation comes up where you need to use his headphones and you ask him for a dongle, too.

@@onibon1990 but OP6 has headphone jack *:thinking:*

@@owo7094 OP 6T won't. Its been confirmed by the CEO

@@onibon1990 source pls ty

did they do it "For the envirement?" but having to charge a pair of headphones an extra billion plus batteries in the world certantly isent better for the envirment than a billion plus 3.5 jacks?

It's 2024 and I'm RAGING

just buy a cheaper model instead of "we'll rip you off ha-ha" model ;)

Dat Mass they should bring back the p/s2 port

@@Ludak021 Exactly I'm not gonna buy some overpriced phone. I'm currently using a xiaomi redmi 5 plus with a snapdragon 625,3gb of ram, a 1080p screen, a headphone jack and an IR blaster, and all of this for 150usd. Never been happier.

@@omemester6985 I'm using J7's and honor6x's amazing and enough for everyone

Running a Honor 9, and I'm really surprised what they put in it. Dual SIM/microSD, 64 gig, 4 gb ram, 1080p display, headphone jack, usb-c, nothing to complain for the price. This is how it should be.

Not to mention that Bluetooth audio quality is a mine field of it's own. Although many devices support higher definition standards like AAC, AptX, or AptX HD most manufacturers have their own interpretation of these so you can't use (in most cases) an iphone AAC or AptX with a non-Apple licensed device, and many android phone makers have similarly unique interpretations of the so-called "standards", so what most often happens is that the Bluetooth connection defaults back to the old SBC standard from BT1.1 with it's frankly abysmal audio quality (similar to 128kbs MP3 so some people will still call that great though).

I watch alot of videos and out of sync audio is the biggest concern for me. Audio quality via dongle or Bluetooth (mostly headphones/sets) are a huge pain too. I can't believe how these manufacturers screw us every single time.

You know what sucks? I bought 3 Google dongles and put 1 in my wallet. One day I needed it and...it must have fallen out. So then I had to order another one because the other two are in their places. I ordered 2 more and it took 1.5 months to get them directly from Google. So yeah: Just put the stupid jack back on the phone.

Never got those problems, guess it's because both my phone and headphone are BT 5.0. I'm basically full time BT now.

Everton Correia Have you checked what codec you're actually using? Unless you have done something it's probably SBC which means you might as well have BT2.1 (A2DP is from BT2.1).

Ikr

Same here with my s9+😉

LGv30. Count me in

Just got a Note 9 as well. Kind of wondering how we'll feel in a year or two when our $1000 phone holds a charge for about 15 minutes.

@@DrCognitive just get the battery changed

Toyratz - Gaming, Tutorials i see apple doing this, only possible to charge it wirelessly

Basically Note 7

Wouldnt actually be a bad thing since they have fast wireless charging now and you dont have to worry about depreciating the charging port. Removing headphone jack was stupid because you have to charge wirless headphones and if you dont have an option for wired then you're boned

+Urban Kitsune if you need to use them for longer than their battery lasts just get two sets they are like as low as $4 from china, this basically gives you and unlimited battery life, you're welcome. Welcome to future, it's time to move on from ancient headphone jack that I have no idea why it survived for so long as it's insanely huge connector for only having 3 or 4 pins lmao...

*power via 3.5mm*

Get on that poco hype train baybee since even oneplus is abandoning headphone jack (fuck you sony, you promised you're gonna keep the jack). Another alternative is to get a dap.

*Except Samsung

Don't believe their 3.5mm jack was hi-fi to begin with 🤔.

Yes, it can be. Especially when you add a DAC. The LG V30 for example, has a heavily developed HiFi headphone jack including a built-in Quad DAC and supports TIDAL Hi Definition audio format, called TIDAL Masters (MQA).

@@byronb. You said "especially when you add a DAC", but you nead a DAC to even get sound to your headphones, it can't work without it.

Starfals AirPods don’t have those problems. Connect instantly and without problems. They all last for days

AirPods have a big problem that is called sound quality... They lack anything under 80 Hz... And the sound is muddy...

@@brbix4005 with this type of wireless / usb c shit people are focusing less on the most important thing of headphones, the sound

@@SirDella I know, wireless audio kinda sucks and is lossy even today... There is another wireless solution which is pretty much lossless, and that solution is called Wi-Fi... Only Fidelio X2 Wireless, Bose QC35II, that Sony NC blue headphones and Bowers&Wilkins wireless headphones can be considered good... But they still get lossy audio from source(phone in most cases), and that is why I still like my tangly wires...

@@mitchellp7739 Thing is Mitch.. can I call you mitch? I'm calling you mitch. It is an unnecessary comprmise. Waterproofing , slimming of the phones, battery size.. Samsung has proven that it is possible to do all those things WITHOUT taking out the 3.5 jack. I'd use my phone (oneplus) as an example but they just announced recently that they're also killing jack. All of apple's excuses in taking it out, was put down by Samsung by simply showing them It is possible. The reason.. the real reason why they did it is to sell you dongles and also by making the airpods a selling point. I'm a very open minded guy. Maybe you can enlighten me why jack had to die. Jack. jack. Jack wake up. Jaaaaaaaaack. (titanic scene)

Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!

+Herbert N when they are all gone, we would probably have proven and approved better technology by then. we only jump ship now because technology hasnt caught up with the design.

@@Viewer13128 no sir, only YOU have not caught up with the design. The industry has had 0 problem with it.

@@bbbbbbb51 tell me to move over to BT when there is 0 latency.

Do not mistaken tho . I love BT whein i play music or watch video.. but when gaming

+Brandon Johnson Sir... you don't seem to get it. "When they're all gone" is key here. The very fact that not every top end audiophile grade earphone or low end earphone has switched to usb-c means usb-c technology isn't set in stone yet... We are not talking about whether you experienced any bugs or not as of yet... If I have to use an adapter to connect to the phone, then it means the switch in technology is still ongoing and incomplete. "When they're all gone" means it is complete. And "when they're all gone" means I will have no problem using usb-c because it would have been perfected and completely adapted by the entire world (or at least first world countries).

Agreed. The upcoming One Plus 6T is already out of my list. Fuck these companies screwing their customers over. Seems like Samsung is going strong with 3.5mm headphone jack. All the more reason to get Note 9 lol.

Current tech situation is really not worth using a USB-C Audio, especially when almost all high end audio headphones still use 3.5mm headphone jack. And using dongles is something i never want to do. Ever. It's such a fuckin' chore to take such teeny weeny wires with you everywhere. And if you don't have it, or if it's not the right size ... you're fucked. Tomorrow, if I'm in a situation where we don't have any choice but to settle with what i already have, then we would, hopefully, atleast have SOME alternative available at our disposal.

You forgot the part that you can always get 1-2$ 3.5 headphones everywhere ,if you lost ,forgot or discharged good 1...

Get with times, bt earbuds are actually pretty cheap from china and you can buy 2 pairs of these if you're worried about battery life.

And PPL will still go ahead n buy $1500 iphones. This whole trend started with Apple. And all the mindless Android companies followed suit.

Get with the times, or you will get left behind because physical connectors are going away, BT earbuds and wireless charging is the future.

Great, but I wouldn't call it "getting with the times" when you have to leave your perfectly working earphones behind and buy wireless ones...I want to be able to listen to music without my earphones running out of battery in the middle of my daily train ride home...

make t-shirts with this slogan

A person who still needs a headphone jack is too dumb to use all the new technology anyway.

@@leDespicable A floppy drive also worked perfectly fine, lets bring that back as well. Buy two pairs of $26 bt earbuds from china then and have unused ones inside the little charging case, if you don't get sick of the music after 5 or w/e hours

Unexpected Khabib quote... I approve.

@@Des420 haha thanks, glad someone got the reference

+Optimus No worries. Whats your prediction for the fight?

@@Des420 I think I would favour it 60/40 Khabib, he's got a great chin but he shouldn't test it against Conor. He tends to leave it out in the open but his chain wrestling and pace is unreal, he needs to stick to that and I think he'll do fine.

+Optimus Solid call, and that should be his game plan: Close, clinch, takedown, smother and smash. If I knew he would stick to that only, I'd give him even higher odds to win... But he's been standing up with everyone recently to "make point". That is a very bad idea to try on Connor with a full gas tank. For me, if it ends early: Connor. Anything after round 2: Khabib.

Agree

*probably

alvallac21 Thx for fixing there grammar.

Because you're living in the past, bt is way more convenient and just better and no it does not suck alot of the power out of your phone, it sucks less because the phone has no longer to power up the headphone speakers, the separate battery does that and bt doesn't take as much power so in terms of your phone battery you're actually on better. There is nothing as annoying as the headphone wires that get in the way, get stuck in the stuff even if you put it under the shirt and they break every 3 to 6 months. Bt module for your bigger speakers is like $10... any speakers can be easily bt enabled by just plugging them in the bt module and then connecting with the phone. If you're a bit of diy guy you can make that even more seamless without buying enabled bt speakers. Open up the speakers or amp and install that little bt circuitry inside the device itself as it will probably fit (the board is small and amps have plenty of space, speaker cabinets even more) connect it to the power (might need to be step down with a voltage regulator) and of course hook it into the audio in wires (the backside of the 3.5mm jack).

@@harshnemesis has no one heard of, ohh I dont know, sticking the cable through their shirt? I dont get that part of the arguement one bit.

@@chucklesdeclown8819 But I mentioned that... I can't believe I have to explain this in detail. Yes everyone knows that trick and no that doesn't solve the problem because even with routing the cable under the shirt, I have still managed to get the stupid wire to catch into shit, of course when that happened it resulted in forceful removal of the earbuds from my ears, or it even pulls out the pda which then drops on the floor(yes the pda because wired earbuds are so ancient they belong into 2003-2010 pocket pc era) Why it happens? Because the part of the wire which comes out the shirt and then into the pocket where it plugs into a pda is fully exposed. If you make it tight it's uncomfortable, if you don't then then the exposed wire just makes a nice little arc ready to catch into shit that you pass. Also the whole process of setting it all up was frustrating and took some time, to do, because you have to fish the cable through, and clip it so it doesn't pull down and if you later decide you want to use the pda while listening to the music, you have to unplug it pull the wire out and plug it in... such pain in the ass. It wan't even worth the trouble, I have opted to just use the speaker or not listen to the music at all so many times, because it was just too much effort. Meanwhile you just turn on the bluetooth earbuds, they work instantly (+1) you don't have to worry about any wires getting stuck into shit or breaking (+2) and you can just put the phone wherever you want in the room and you still hear the music (+3) Imagine a life where you aren't tethered to your device... Oh wait we already have that

thank you, alot of people are stupid, they don't like the idea of a phone not having a 3.5 but they still buy the phone, i never understand logic like that

Right? It's like being a vegan and buying and eating meat. When you support a cause and you are against something you go out of your way to make a statement.

I needed a new phone this year didn't have many options. I ended getting the first Google pixel XL I need that headphone jack.

BULLSHT!!! Most of the companies want to phazed them out cuz they want to force you to use bluetooth headphones. Which huge health risk for you brain. companies want to make smart phone smarter, so they can make humans more stupid. This is LITERAL not a metaphor! THIS IS DEFINITELY MANUFACTURERS' FAULT.

You need to be way more open minded and not all people are a like. I always use Bluetooth because i fucking hate headphone wires breaking constantly or getting tangled or getting stuck behind objects. So I literally never use the Jack

Agree Didn't buy the phone that I liked because of no headphone jack

Honestly, less and less people I know are upgrading! And it's because of "features" that are shit.

Ross Townsend, I don't really find it necessary to upgrade your phone often. A 400-500$ phone can last you 4-5 years before it starts feeling slow. Unless you play demanding games or something, there is really no need to have a new powerful phone and it's not like they added any useful features on smartphones in the past 10 years. Though, on most phone, you can't change the battery easily and after about 3 years it doesn't hold its charge as long.

@@foufoufun See that's how they get you. I have a Pixel XL. I've had it since it first came out. Phone still works pretty well overall, but definitely less snappy than it used to, which is to be expected. My main issue is that my battery life is nowhere near as good as I'd like it to be. I feel like I need to plug it in a lot more than I should. I wish I could just simply get a new battery and throw it in myself but of course, it's all sealed up and I don't feel like risking doing it myself.

+cheesewheel The batteries are not only soldered to the board, the cases are often very hard to open without breaking anything.

Samsung hates note 9 users

@Javky i'll gladly have that over not having a 3.5mm jack...

@Javky how often do you get water into your phone? Personally, I prefer the practicality of a jack because I have never had water near my phone 😆

@Javky maybe because you need to dry the water and not plugging the charger right away? That's normal for every phone. I'm not sure where did you read 2h before charging but that's probably to make sure everything is dry in the charging port

Omg Javky. Think, man, THINK. Every phone would have a problem with water and charging right away, because there is water in the USB (or Lightning for Apple users) slot. Now what happens when you plug in your cable to charge the phone while there is water in the port? Doesn't matter if the phone has IP68 or is the most waterproof phone that could survive 1km in water. If there is water in the port, you don't charge it. And it takes a fair while to let it airdry. So, getting a notification to wait 2 hours is actually a fucking smart move to ensure that you don't destroy your phone...

@Javky I have a note 8 and dropped it in the sink for this I couldn't charge my phone for 5 minutes.....

Not to mention - try doing an 18-hour long-haul flight + 8-hour layover with blue-tooth audio.

Samsung is the messiah i guess

@@Linkedblade LG is an audiophile's dream mobile manufacturer

don't buy a phone that doesn't have one, and you can get a 10,000 mAh battery bank from Anker for $30 oh wait if you want to use one of those with your type c headphones you need a splitter dongle... then you need your 3.5mm dongle...

Dont you have docks at work?

Yes.

Kayz Photography They want you to buy bluetooth headphones

@@kky.x Bluetooth headphones/earphones, that require additional charging i.e. still needing a cable to use those headphones/earphones.

Oh, cmon! This freeing up space BS. A 3.5 jack is tiny and phones are getting bigger and bigger every year. And many high-end phones like S9 include the audio jack. Making phone waterproof was an excuse for sealing the batteries, yet half of the phones are not weathersealed. Bluetooth headphones are great but offer choice at least.

@Nate Morey I haven't seen any phone that has freed up any space for a larger battery. Have you, and which phone would that be?

It's just a matter of how it's designed i believe. Samsung S8, S9 are pretty high end phones and those have the 3.5 jack, so do many other phones. Also, how do you charge your phone and listen to music at the same time if your phone only has one USB port?

You’re going to run out of options in a few years

resistance is futile you will be assimilated // we are the borg !!

Me too

Me too, it is literally the first thing I check when looking at phones. I would sooner use outdated tech then use a phone with no 3.5mm jack. The one trend Apple actually made mainstream and it is such garbage.

Yes I'm.in this boat...furthermore I refuse to buy a phone without an fm radio...REALLY running out of options but some phones still.do it

Same

Yep.....

For now

And LG

LG has the best quality sound on any phone on the market because of the high quality quad DAC in the phones. I personally have a LG G7 Thinq that i picked up for half the price of a S9+. And I am very happy with my purchase.

That's why I stick with them

Happy for you

Same. I dislike the current phone trends. But also our devices use usb-c chargers instead of micro usb. When the new days require new methods, I hate that phrase so much now.

@Will Swift wireless is nowhere near as good as wired 3.5mm or 2.5mm or even 6.3mm or XLR Jack. Wireless audio is always gonna be a lower resolution then wired audio as its not coming through a cable with no interruptions or delay. Also with wireless you cant run it through a Dac unless the headphones have a jack built in which only a few headphones have

@Will Swift no, Bluetooths bandwidth is nowhere near enough enough to support listening to audio without absolutely destroying the sound quality. I'm sorry but you have no clue what you're talking about

@@michaelwalker552 you are technically right, but your ears won't tell the difference

@@epicapexplays8467 you ears entirely can tell the difference. If they couldn't studio grade equipment wouldn't be a thing. But you do you I guess

This! Have the same phone. You don't realise you need something and until you need it. Headphone jack? I already have Bluetooth headphones but the number of times I've been able to hook up my AUX in a cab or party whilst my iPhone friends were left unable too. Samsung flagships are the Swiss knifes of phones

You can charge your phone and listen to the music the same time

Imagine using type c headphone and you can't charge your phone at the same time bring back headphone jack

boycott phones without jack

Me too.. Also FM radio.. Since Sony killed both on their flagships, I'm switching.

@rabitman3000 but 13 dongles arent 1 cable

slap_my_hand Then they should also switch from SB to BS. Because this is BS man!

Phones without jack are selling just fine, you're living in the past.

@@CallMeNumber8 Dude you're a conspiracy theorist, no wireless electronics were proven to harm our body in fact it was proven the exact opposite. Btw electricity does radiate too and your outdated wired headphones are powered by that, so I think you need to stop using these and stop using a smartphone and go live in a basement wrapped in tinfoil.

@@harshnemesis I think you need to stop being a fucking idiot and insulting people for using the technology they prefer. This whole "you're living in the past" statement is, in fact, downright mean and very disrespectful. No wonder why no one agrees with your foolish comments!

Unfortunately, people are just as stupid as the manufacturers. People will never learn. Just let them suffer.

Lately it seems they have all gone fully fruity, so we might not have a choice next year.

Unfortunately people will buy them and even defend companies for offering less choice. Just like they did when replaceable batteries died out.

The same reason i buyed my S8 over the iPhone 7

Audio quality from V30 is good, this was the main reason from me, too.

Still love my LG-V20 with headphone jack and quad-DAC! IR blaster and removable battery too.

Still running the x2 pro (using since july 2020) looking to upgrade only asus rog 8 pro is the option available rn which is way out of the budget (Less than 500$) will continue to use this for 2 more years and just go for the best gaming phone with jack and good dacs at that time

Hahaha lol thats really stupid and doesn't make sense I like the way Samsung kept the headphone jack screw the other phone makers

@@carholic-sz3qv I'm pretty sure that's sarcasm bro....

Lol. Good one

While Samsung gives u headphones jack and s pen

I am using blackberry dtek50 smartphone which is 7.3mm thick, with a 3.5mm headphone jack what's your point? Manufacturing companies can even drop to 5mm thickness with a headphone jack. Your point doesn't hold water

Apple doesn’t have this issue...

@@TCPUDPATM right?? lmao

@@TCPUDPATM the point he's trying to make is Apple was dumb for removing the jack and going with dongles

@@TCPUDPATM It's not about headphone jack in particular. It's about Apple's attitude in general: which is arrogance

Deejay Core Left apple? what did you do????????left them muhawhahahaha? Nokia 3310 now? to do what?

That keeps getting harder as time goes on

Simple, shortened for 2019: Buy LG...

Samsung still has headphone jacks on flagships. Not sure about the other models, since they have a ton of em.

It's actually not hard, there are a lot of phones with usb c and an audio jack: Nokia 8, Samsung Galaxy S8, Samsung Galaxy S9, Samsung Galaxy Note 9, Samsung Galaxy S9+, Google Pixel, OnePlus 6, BlackBerry KEY2, Nokia 6.1, Samsung Galaxy A8, Huawei P20 Lite, Samsung Galaxy A3, Nokia 7 Plus, Honor View 10, Sony Xperia XZ1 Compact, LG G7, Samsung Galaxy A5, Motorola G6 Plus, Motorola G6... and the list goes on. I'm sure everyone will find something in that variety.

*audio jack * everywhere *I'd *interested

@@alvallac2171 Dude... what the fuck? This is the RU-vid comments section, not English class. Be happy when people use commas and full stops and start their sentences with capital letters, man... instead of nitpicking about every single mistake.

@@alvallac2171 You must have a lot of free time on your hands...

because apple has big influences in mobile industry. so you have shit Chinese smarphone company start to do the same, copying the good n shit with all the apple product. these company isn't as big as samsung so they just chicken out to take the risk. oh and also because money. dongles n expensive Bluetooth devices

Upside is profits thats all

Ciarán Jones why you need old 1970 gear, for what use???? museum guy????

@@lucasrem So what if the port is old? It works fine and dandy for its purpose! You can even use accessories with a headphone jack (like square card reader) and still have a usable charging port.

@@lucasrem yeah i am going to walk with a shitty dongle everywhere, or have shitty audio quality with Bluetooth.

Lucas: What an idiotic comment. Keep then using stupid dongles and fragile USB ports. Just don't forget to take your dongle every time with you.

God you drive a car with RUBBER tires? You heathen. Don't you know rubber tires are OVER 100 YEARS OLD???? Get with the times!

Andrei Todoran That is next actually.

The things you are talking about apply to the Bluetooth earphones from a couple of years ago. Now with Bluetooth 4.2 and 5 things like that never happens. Also you have a range of at least 10 m away from your device which isn't possible while using wired ones. I have an anker soundbuds life and the battery is 24hrs of music playback. I charge it only once every 2 weeks and it only needs like 2 hrs of charge to last you this long. Technology is getting better and better but you're not realizing it since you just are afraid of change.

@@noka5730 That is completely untrue. Bluetooth has tons of problems. From garbage sound quality. To horrible battery lives (especially after 6 months dear god.) And bad reliability. They just aren't as good as 3.5 yet.

@@CZPC i have been using mine now for about 8 months and the battery life is still the same, and the sound quality is actually good. They're comparable with wired earphones not headphones since those have alot more bass etc. I also never encountered delays or connection problems whatsoever. So I don't know where you are bringing your info from. I'm also sure that they will only get better in the future, as long as more people switch to BT so manufacturers will be forced to put out the best they got.

noka5730 tell me how many hours you spend on that bluetooth earphone on a daily basis

Oh... That's what the dozen incompatible standards of wireless charging will be for!

I know something. 2 usb c ports!

www.amazon.com/Sunjoyco-Headphone-Converter-Supports-Charging/dp/B07BTL1VYN?keywords=2+in+1+USB+c+type+3.5&qid=1537475210&sr=8-10&ref=mp_s_a_1_10

Why not keep audio jack and a usb-c port?

I actually agree that I'd your going to ditch 3.5mm ports at least add TWO USB-C ports instead of one so that way you have a dedicated charging port and an accessory port that's flexible (can display out, audio out, etc). Then at least it's a trade off and not a cut.

Excuse Moi? I've noticed that when looking at phone benchmarks where phones are side by side. They are so similar in style it is hard to telk tthe physical difference.

That's just what happens when the front of the phone is all screen. I don't see a problem as long as the backs are a bit distinctive, everyone loves small bezels.

trignite No. Everyone does not love small bezels. Small bezels decrease usability and can go suck a fat one.

Screen to body ratio war. Most stupid decision imo. Sure it looked great. It feels like I'm trying to read a book with no margin. Where can I put my hand that won't obscure the display? Samsung flagship with their curve display is the worst culprit.

i can't understand this complain (the one were "oh you'll touch the displaywith your hand if it has small bezels), how are you even holding your phone, i'm using my pinky so the phone doesn't fall and i don't wrap my hand around the phone, that's fucking it, the durability one is actually legit and we'll just have to wait for stronger glass

Get with the times, or get left behind. Headphone jacks are so 2005

@@harshnemesis Stfu, and go cry with your type c jack. Audio quality is worse on type c and bluetooth, so there is no reason to remove the headphone jack as it still the best.

@@kadrix732 Bluetooth is far superior to wired audio and Lol USB-C jack, literally nobody uses that. Why would anyone buy new earbuds and make them wired again when there is a better option, wireless which is the future? Headphone jack is long obsolete and you're living in the past.

As technology gets more better and better, less actual drives/jacks/wires/whatever are needed. Remember CD drives? That used to be all the rage back in 1990s to early 2000s. Then the internet started to evolve. We were able to download things onto our computer at faster and faster speeds. Valve saw this as a way to innovate, and due to other underlying reasons, to create stronger DRM, and provide updates faster, Steam, the first successful digital distribution platform was released, and the rest is history. UPlay, Origin, battle.net, etc. And less people started to use CD. Granted some people still use them, to transfer legacy software, but it's mostly gone for normal consumers. What I'm trying to say is that Apple has the same idea Valve did. They saw the future and were willing to take risks, as they're known for. Sure some people complained, but normal consumers didn't care and some were happy that the headphone jack was being removed for something better. And it paid off. Sales research after Q1 2017 placed the iP7 as the best-selling smartphone in the world. TL:DR - Headphone jack are soon to meet the fate of CDs, long gone because of wireless advancements in technology, for better or for worse.

@@richie4633 Finally someone who understands that with time technology changes for better. Headphone jacks are so ancient.

Just imagine trying to watch porn with that setup!

sounds like the past to be honest. I remember the pre android days, when browsing the internet and listening to high def audio caused my little Samsung phone to reboot. this came to my mind watching this, pathetic

i don't know why you are talking about Google when that's clearly LG phone you are talking about. it seems to me that other phones do not have this issue. If they do, then you may blame Google for this. Additionally, phones have different volume levels for bluetooth, speaker and headphones so why wouldn't the same apply to usb-c audio? you can set speaker sound to low to mitigate this issue, actual headphone volume will be whatever you have left it to previously.

Typical LG with their software problems

maybe don't use headphones for $3

Cheap ass people lmao

Dark I'm sorry for being ass poor

> spend a thousand bucks on a Pixel > cry because the dongle is 9 bucks

Fossillized rex then maybe buying a flagship phone shouldn't be your priority, lmao peasant.

Still love my LG-V20 with headphone jack and quad-DAC! IR blaster and removable battery too.

Don't forget that bluetooth re-encodes audio. So if you're playing an audio file that has already been degraded by being encoded to some lossy format, it is getting encoded yet again to another lossy. So that is just shit on top of shit. You can avoid this by encoding to a lossless format, but then you'll sacrificing space to fix and issue that never should be an issue to begin with.

But you'll continue to buy iproducts so Apple won't be hurting for cash to add the headphone jack back in.

Don't forget that their target customers are supposed to be professionals....LOL

I mean, you could always just not buy an iphone. It's funny, apple does something people aren't happy about. they increase the price. people pay and just bitch constantly. if you dont like it, there are many other products better than iphones that STILL use 3.5 mm jacks. Not to mention software better than garageband.

They did it because of courage...

watching this on my pc, my phone still has a headphone jack - which is still a virgin, because bluetooth is the future, children.

Yes

on my s9+ and headphone jack too

@@raymakbutwithmoustache6413 Lol, you idiot I didn't like my own comment, but since you want me to, I have done so now and it has two likes, enjoy. Also it's *your learn grammar, dumbo xD

well why wouldn't you agree on your own opinion@@raymakbutwithmoustache6413

And OnePlus

Warrior 000 and your father

@@nicoweako8899 not anymore. They bashed apple for removing the jack in I think their 1+ 6 advertisements and now the plan for the 6T is to remove it themselves...

Like Apple that mocked everyone for making large phones. Look at them now, clowns.

@BTICronox Exactly the reason I run the V30. Best phone.

these budget phones will get rid of that stupid hole as well in the near future. Bluetooth is the future, children.

but budget phones usually have really bad notches cutout and they use lcd which causes weird backlighting around the notch, making things worse. What budget phone in 2019 doesn't have a notch

@@harshnemesis bluetooth is shit lol

@@harshnemesis Bluetooth is the future? A fucking 90s shitty ass technology that doesn't work right even in 2020?

Velma's Booty Hey might remove the headphone jack for s10. That’s what the rumor is.

Time to bring back the removable battery.

wccftech.com/samsung-galaxy-s10-no-headphone-jack/

@@libertyprime69 Let's bring back the floppy drive while we are at it

@@ryutenmen Well duh you fucking morons, I told you long ago that samsung and the remaining companies will remove the ancient headphone jack. Didn't come with a surprise. Bluetooth is the future, children.

Agreed to an extent, Phone audio was hideous and was an absolute trash solution next to actually having a DAP with a high quality AMP/DAC, I mean we pay around a grand for smartphones but when I show people an Astell&Kerns they loose their mind over the prices. Apple Products are simply overpriced and iTunes was always the laughing stock of quality music, so much so even the engineer that designed it came out and said how embarrassed he was and how it set back the industry a decade at minimum compared to other players at the time on the market. The only reason people use phones as a music player is out of conv. not because of quality also the SNR and background noise/static is disgraceful on phones. I have only ever seen and heard a few phones that had decent audio, Razer phone, Moto X pure are 2 of them, and most enthusiasts use an AMP/DAC with a phone just to try and make it better with a set of Grado/Sennheiser/or other high end audio cans. The only reason Beats became famous was because the more expensive versions had a DAC/AMP built into the headphones in order to make the Itune audio sound more fuller, the drawback was they were profiled for Bass heavy modern music which drowns out mids excessively.

The thing is: Having an external USB DAC over USB-C will work on all phones. They're standard USB Audio Devices which is why they work on laptops too. Putting a jack on the phone doesn't mean you can't use an external DAC. The P20 Pro does it just fine, as does the Sony (they do the auto switch for you.)

@@FakeGordonMahUng Take a note those digital dongles are *filters* with audio signal converter ICs for the coil present in headphones. And here comes a aspect that makes this matter more shitty. They do filter USB power & data stream interference. The audio signal is bad than 3.5 mm output. Find a phone that have both 3.5mm jack & usb audio, chop the wire of a headphone, connect it to a digital multimeter that can log data, now play White Noise, Pink noise, logarithmic Sine & Arithmetic Sine

@@Phynix72 isn't this determined by the external dac and Amp as well though?

@@FakeGordonMahUng Yup... But what I'm saying not ever user carry external dac or amp, especially if someone is moving or doing things. Slapping experiments like these on consumers are worsening experience of having a better device. We pay for technology to have convenience, not to make simple things into crappy one.

Do you own good analog headphones?

Why do they have to make something that was easy so complicated. Why not simply buy a pair of random headphones and plug them in? No, now we need a dongle with a DAC and special headphones. It actually goes both ways: Those who already own good headphones they care for need additional stuff and thosee who buy the cheapos and throw them away after a year when the cable rips have to do the same.

@@peacekkqmark I don't know I they're the greatest, but I have a pair of Shure se846s that I've used for the last 3 years.

@@HappyBeezerStudios not just a dongle but now you have to know to differentiate a digital with an analog one. Wtf?!

Motorola did it first. Also, remove all the holes from phones. I want a 100% waterproof phone. Wireless charging, bluetooth, wifi.... done.

@@binarypower umm aren't phones waterproof enough while having literally all those features? Samsung phones do it

rurutu M PLUGWALK? old guy, needing wires?

@@lucasrem edgy kid? Mommy's money?

+binarypower Doesn't matter. Companies are copying Apple, not Motorla. If Apple kept the headphone jack, no one else would have removed it in 2017. And to be correct: Samsung released a waterproofed phone with headphone jack and even a removable battery, it's called Galaxy S5. In 2014. three yeare before Apple introduced IP67 on the iPhones. the headphone jack is extremely easy to make waterproof. USB-C, speakers etc. are way more complicated.

Drew Pickard Removable storage haha, not ready for the cloud, what do u use, Apple lightning Photo kit? reason to keep old gear in 2018? you are getting old the only one! Just keep the NOKIA 3310 in 2018!

@@lucasrem the headphone jack is not "old gear", almost all headphones have 3.5mm connectors on them, not USB-C

My Samsung Note 9 is far from old tech, and the LG G6 it replaced wasnt old tech either. I said I was being stubborn not backward. And I probally use the cloud more than most, for both work and personal on my phone/pc. Dont assume people who want a headphone jack and removable storage are backward hicks running phones from 2000.

NewZona Rides what’s so nice about the jack? Apple gives you headphones with a lightening jack. I’ve never had a moment where I wish I had the jack back since I got the new iPhone

And the Note 9 proves that you can have immersion resistance and a 3.5mm jack.

I bet you in the next 2 years a Samsung phone won’t have a headphone jack

​@@lmfao7224 that aged well

I say don't fucking compromise, if the company won't listen to consumers then fuck them and don't buy.

Wolfin If companies only listened to what consumers wanted then we would still probably all have flip phones

Wolfin well contracts exist where you get to choose a new phone every x years. and if all the phones there dont have a jack you are rip.

And you're stuck in the past

@@harshnemesis If the past is way more convenient, fast and useful than the future, I'm going to stay here

It's neither, but you're a hipster

@@harshnemesis this vid explains why headphone jack is way more convenient

@@hobobobo5244 More convenient than usb-c not bluetooth and you guys are stuck in the past.

Not just apple, a lot of other companies are following the same route too, it's so retarded.

Yu Shiuan Zhuang What is apple doing wrong? you need some old big phone, needing Plug walk gear? Pinocchio guy? What Phone u use now, what is it you need to see on it that you need a new one? 16" Record player?

but using those dongles don't cause audio problem with iphones. it's just android makers are all retards but android fans have no brains and keep buying androids

For those who blame apple, please realize that iphone never has that issue. Iphone uses lightning adapter made by apple. So unlike usb-c, if you borrow someone’s lightning dongle you are 100% sure it is gonna work. Android is too fragmented...yet instead of admitting it, you blame apple.

+Trey a surprising amount of ppl. not having to charge even more devices is pretty nice when you already have to remember to charge 2 laptops, 2 phones, a tablet and a portable audio interface. not to mention good luck finding ANY audio equipment past "average joe" grade with wireless capabilities. as someone that works with audio the 3.5mm jack is an absolute must for me and a lot of others. not to mention practically universal compatibility, lower latency and simplicity. wired audio outputs are so simple you can wire them by hand. meanwhile if you need to do anything to a set of wireless headphones youll have to take them to a repair shop

Oh nice idea .. 1 on the top and 1 at the bottom .. there was 1 phone which had 2 earpeices worked any way up :)

So you can charge it 2x faster too lol

That would be a more waste of space. The USB C is bigger than a 3.5mm audio jack. Having two of USB C is worse than removing the audio jack. How about going back to 3.5mm audio jack and USB C.....

Abdurrahman Siddiqi Not at all! More i/o, the possibility to use two usb devices without any hub, be able to charge and hear audio or charge and use a usb device through otg, etc. In therms of space it would use a little bit more. But that's not the usuall excuse, the usual one is that the 3.5mm jack is hard to waterproof and that this format is/needs to die, as its analogic (yeah no sense at all). The only one who used the space excuse, was apple in the iphone 7 or 8 (the first one to not have a 3.5mm jack), but the channel strangeparts proved that this was bullshit. He made himself a 3.5mm jack for his iphone. So at least they could put another usb-c in there, or keep the 3.5mm jack, as you said, it wouldnt be a bad idea.

TsunaXZ Actually yes! Like the macbooks! (If the battery is prepared for that)

plad plad it’s not just iPhone it’s half the damn cellphones coming out now 😂🤦‍♂️

plad plad muhawhahgahaha, what did you bought then, nokia 3310, to connect a 12" disk player. What phone you needed then and why did you not buy it? To do what on???

lucas rem bitch please.. its nokia 3210 or nothing bruh...

iphone works perfectly youre welcome

For those who blame apple, please realize that iphone never has that issue. Iphone uses lightning adapter made by apple. So unlike usb-c, if you borrow someone’s lightning dongle you are 100% sure it is gonna work. Android is too fragmented...yet instead of admitting it, you blame apple.

You can't be here too

@@archismarathe1589 as soon as i saw his comment i was like HOW?!?!? Hahahah

OK I SEE U EVERYWHERE IN MANY VIDEOS BUT THIS ONE? LOL

@@FUNNYTIKTOK789 hmm is that you in three profile pic? No homo but you look nice

@@archismarathe1589 aye bro no worries yeah that’s me, appreciate it! I just have long hair now 😂 and is that your doggo in profilepic?

Well from now on, one plus killed the jack so..