@@FlyingKSports The 10 and 15 were only different in that the 15 had adjustible sights. The ten had groove sight. We had no computer, no body armor, no taser, no metal baton, no mace, no AR15. We usually had a shotgun, but not in every police car. We had normal haircuts and s police uniform, not a military one. We also did not think we were special forces and we didn't dislike civilians. We talked more and used violence less. Take care buddy. Your dad too. I'm 70 yrs old now. bye.
They're definitely not subpar. If you are in bear country, you'd better be packing a revolver with some heavy loads. Also, revolvers are the choice for handgun hunting. The revolver is a specialized tool. You just have to match the tool to the task at hand.
The best part about this, is that people who use revolvers admit reloading quickly matters. Imagine trying to speed reload that sht only to have a grand total of 12 rounds.
@@FlyingKSports Hell of a lot easier to fumble with a speed loader than it is to fumble with loose cartridges. EDIT: I'm saying the speedloader is the better option....
Move the cylinder out with your index and middle fingers, pad of your thumb going to the ejector rod, muzzle pointed at the 12:00, eject your empties with your thumb. Point muzzle at the ground, index and middle fingers keeping cylinder out of frame and stationary, load with speed loader. Drop empty speed loader, snap cylinder closed with thumb.
@@FlyingKSports Retired Law Enforcement. Agency Firearms Instructor for 24 of my 32 years of service. First 8 years we were issued Wheelguns like everyone else. Then the transition to Semi-Autos slowly phased in.
My dream gun. S&W 686. I daily a 10mm 1911 with a 6 inch barrel, and keep two extra mags on me. Still much prefer the feel of a revolver, and used to daily an 1873 style 357 single action.
Speed loaders require practice, practice, practice. In a gunfight, you would need to be able to reload while keeping an eye on your opponent. This means a cool and steady hand that performs the reloading even more smoothly than tying shoe laces.
@FlyingKSports yes, but in the case of speed loaders, practice keeps you alive. We had them when I was a cop and we were issued s&w .357s loaded with .38 special semi-jacketed hollow points. It was campus police at a university with a high crime problem. We carried a light load since something like a .357 has a tendency to go through walls. The hollow point also stops faster. Anyway, we practiced with semi-wadcutters and even them and the hollow points were clumsy to speed load. Ball ammo would have been easier, but it wasn't allowed. This was in the old days, and a lot of cops still carried .357.
@@agustingonzalez3878 my dad was a cop in the 60s and 70s. He carried round nose lead ammo for his .38. They thought at the time .357 was too powerful. He carried spare ammo on a belt slide with loops for the Individual rounds. He was retired and in private security when he went to the .357 with speed loaders. He felt at that time he was high speed, low drag!
@FlyingKSports wow. So he was a little before my time. Even in the 80s, and I imagine even in the 60s, we were always out gunned. We were disarming people of their semi-autos all the time and all we had were our 6 shooters. What gave me a little confidence was the fact that the criminals were all incredibly stupid. I used to wonder what we would do if the bad guys had ever thought to use radios, or to surveillance the way we did. They had the Mac 10s, the semi- automatic rifles, the sawed off shotguns, and we still beat them every time. AND we took their weapons!
@@FlyingKSports when I started in law enforcement I had to buy my weapons. 1 was Colt, then I bought a S&W 686 that I still have. That was back in mid 80s to late 80s.
@@r.tomrobison8307 I beveled the cylinder to help with some hollow points that the edges like to catch a bit on. But though they said to practice with .38 in the Python and the 686 could use 357 at the range. I never got tired of how buttery smooth the Pythons actions are. Like a Browning A bolt or Husqvarna (yep the chain saw maker lol). made Swedish Mouser. Like glass. If you ever get a chance to shoot a surplus Swedish Mouser in 6mm. OMG idk what they did. But I'd swear the two I worked the action on and the one I owned. It felt like they had used polishing compound on all the mating surfaces. It's like the Python feels but In a military surplus rifle. Thank you for your service as a Police officer. I worked with the public. People suck sometimes well most of the time lol😊
I have a 7 shot s&w 686-8 I love the gun but I wouldn't want to be in a gun fight with it, 7 shots, bulky, and built for mid range distance. I prefer to carry my P365, 10-12 shots of 9mm critical defense made by Hornady and for CC it's a accurate like thing and fast, the glow sights help too. A+
They make a 686+ PC edition that is cut for moon clips. It holds 7 rounds that can be loaded using a moon clip or by hand or by using a speed loader. The moon clips are the fastest way to go.
@FlyingKSports Yep. Put your finger on the trigger of a cocked S&W revolver and best already has the sights aligned. Went to a live estate auction and acquired a 4 inch 686 no dash. It was unfired when I got it. It took a few shots, but it has a very, very smooth double action trigger pull.
@@nhwnhw02 right out of the box the 686 has a great trigger. After a few hundred rounds it smooths up even more. Love the double action pull and the single action pull is scary light.
I have a speed loader for a CO2 shell revolver, and it's better than any speed loader I've seen for real guns. It actually has a catch release in the centre, and when it makes contact with the drum it forces the shells in under spring tension. None of that twisting or pushing malarkey you do with the ones I've seen on the internet for real guns. Makes it almost impossible to fumble the reload.
Muzzle needs to point up a bit when you eject those rounds and point down when you insert them. I have held it flat and somehow got an empty case stuck under the extractor - really. Stops everything. Then point the muzzle down to help the rounds go in.
Just wait until you have powder residue that gets caught under the star extractor. You will NEVER eject unless the muzzle is pointed to the ceiling. I had that happen . . . only once!
Lol. Meantime the other guy has sent 15 uninterrupted rounds your direction, and sticks in a new mag with 15 more in the same amount of time. Hilarious!
I prefer the Speedbeez for competition. Just push in and the cartridges launch into the chamber. However if you miss the charge holes you make a mess and screw up your par time.
As I carried a S&W & in the early 90’s, I distinctly remember range instructors yelling; “look & load” while changing with speed loaders. Just a tip. Always watch for the target
i love the hypothetical imagine to be into a situation where you have already shot 6 bullet and still find yourself needing immediate relead of 6 more no no i can't imagine a situation in which i would need it we live into 21st century not in the wild west
I guess my imagination is just better than yours. I can think of many situations where you might fire six rounds and still feel the need to rapidly reload your revolver.
In my entire live I never found myself into a situation that requirede to fire a gun let alone 6 times and still needing to fire another 6 times They simply don t exist in modern society Yes you can imagine a power fantasy of your house being attacked by isis and you need to stand up and defend your family But is a fantasy pole being a superhero able to fly
@@tripleh327 Not that long ago a friend of mine was walking his dog down a country road. His dog was attacked by a pack of roaming dogs. He fired his six shots and ended up beating the dogs off with a stick. Maybe i live a little more rural than you do.
@@FlyingKSports man they were dogs or terminators? Never seen a dog insisting into an attack after he or is buddies are hitten and more importantly startled by the loud sound of a gunshot Also man sorry but the reality is another Or you have bad aim and you wasted 6 shots and for that reasons you shouldn’t have access to a gun or more bullets Or you have purposely walked into a dangerous situation and the problem is abily to discern and avoid danger The problem is not, not having enough bullet or reloading fast enough And also for that lack of judgment you should defenetly not be allowed to have or carry a loaded gun around If you live in an area where wild packs of dogs roam free and are ferocious enough to attack other dogs even with humans present and that are not deterred by a gunshot you should defenetly avoid going around for a walk with your dog.period. The answer is avoiding the problem not walking into it with a little arsenal to stand your ground And I say that as pistol enthusiast and owner
I’ll never understand the people that hang on to wheel guns when we have modern semi autos. Don’t get me wrong, I love every revolver I own, but in this world that’s ran by mob mentality, I want all the ammo I can get.
I love revolvers, but unfortunately they are completely and utterly obsolete. Any modern pistol has a capacity of nearly thrice that of a revolver, and magazines are easier to carry and change. Beautiful wheel gun tho.
I have to disagree with you. Revolvers are far from obsolete. They’re just as deadly today as they’ve ever been. If you want to shoot something big, like a 45 Colt, 454 or a 500 magnum you’re going to need a revolver.
@@FlyingKSports yeah I'd have to agree in that in the big hunting cartridges revolvers are pretty much the only option. I should've clarified my statement by adding "for defensive end combat use"
@@bobstark4020 yeah he has super human speed, and competitive revolver shooters are fast, but not as fast as someone with a modern combat or defensive handgun.
@@deaddad6310 apparently you aren't paying attention, he is faster than auto shooters. 12 rnds in 3 secs with a reload. Do the math. Relatively few competition auto shooters can match that. And yes, I watch steel challenge and uspsa matches.
I would have to reload 3-4 times to get the same amount of rounds as I would from my 226. Revolvers are fun but I wouldn't carry one unless I'm in bear country
I know you are exaggerating to make a point but 1 reload puts you at 12 rounds. 2 reloads would get you up to 18 rounds. Not 3 or 4 like you say. Also the .357 comes in handy when shooting through car doors or other semi-hard obstacles. Secondly, the .357 has the best record for one shot stops on humans.
@@FlyingKSports my 226 is a 19 or 20+1 depending on what I'm doing and how I carry it, and critical duty does just fine at barrier penetration, and thirdly no, that crown belongs to 12 gauge
I have a question. Aren't speed loaders very bulky to carry? I mean they look like they are about 3 times the diameter of a cartridge. And they are easily almost as long. And they have to be at least as heavy as the rounds they hold. So considering all of that, how practical are they?
I practice this with a similar gun but I'm nowhere near as smooth. I use the Massad Ayoob stressfire reload and find it I can't reliably do it unless the gun is pointed 100% straight down so gravity has maximum effect.
@@bobstark4020 that was back in the mid 80s. So in early 90s dept. were changing to autos. So then I was a lot faster. As with anything with proper training I became faster with the auto. Dose that help.
