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Using A YAMAHA WR250F As A Dual Sport Motorcycle - PROS and CONS 

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Using A YAMAHA WR250F as A Dual Sport Motorcycle - PROS and CONS
With 5,500 miles of use I review the good, the bad, maintenance, setup, repairs and give you my overall opinion on how the bike handles being used as a dual sport bike
0:00 Intro
0:33 Quick History
1:23 PROS
4:58 CONS
6:18 Comprehensive CONS
9:22 Maintenance/Repairs
10:16 IMO/ Conclusion
12:25 WR250F vs WR250R Spec Comparison

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@psode27
@psode27 10 месяцев назад
Love the bike. This is just what inwas looking for. I sold my bikes when i had kids and now that my son is riding a 50, i feel like i need a bike to chase him around with. Id like something quick, light and able to pack up for a camping trip if i wanted to. This bike is solidly at the top of my list. Ill be looking to hopefully find a clean used example in the next year or so. Thanks for the vid!
@upcountryoffroad2906
@upcountryoffroad2906 2 года назад
Great Review. You covered a lot of miles in only a year and a half. Keep up the Adventure!
@Rally_ADVentures
@Rally_ADVentures 2 года назад
Thank you. There so many more unfamiliar dirt roads to explore and cool sights to see.
@abyields7831
@abyields7831 2 года назад
Awesome review Sir, beautiful bike!
@Rally_ADVentures
@Rally_ADVentures 2 года назад
Thank you kindly!
@petskll
@petskll Год назад
Please make a tutorial when you inspect the valves. Thanks for the review!
@Rally_ADVentures
@Rally_ADVentures Год назад
6,500 miles and I have yet to adjust the valves. I’ve inspected them twice and they have been in spec both times.
@alwaysride700
@alwaysride700 Год назад
How many miles do you have on your WR now? I’m thinking about making one a dual Sport also. Just thinking about how many miles you do on road at a time and how many miles before rebuild.
@Smiddee
@Smiddee 2 года назад
Great video, I am looking at upgrading soon. Currently own an xt250.. The wr250f is definitely on my shortlist
@Rally_ADVentures
@Rally_ADVentures 2 года назад
The WR250F was not even on my short list. I was looking at the WR250R and CRF250L / Rally. For my style of riding I hit a “Grand Slam” with the WR250F.
@Smiddee
@Smiddee 2 года назад
@@Rally_ADVentures those are on my list as well but was considering the newer crf300l.. However I think the wr250f is much more capable off road !
@Rally_ADVentures
@Rally_ADVentures 2 года назад
@@Smiddee the CRF300L would be a great bike. It had not been released when I bought my bike. The off road capabilities of the WR250F is one of the reasons the bike fits me and my riding style better than a “dual sport” bike would have.
@zerotalent8859
@zerotalent8859 2 года назад
If your interest is skewed towards the off-road spectrum then avoid the CRF300L. The shock on the 300L is terrible and woefully undersprung. A klx300 has much better suspension than the crf. Neither are in the caliber of the WR for offroad use but they're also cheaper and far easier to find.
@Smiddee
@Smiddee 2 года назад
@@zerotalent8859 hey thanks for the info! Good to know
@reecehall5299
@reecehall5299 2 года назад
Really enjoy your videos am starting my own dual sport build on the same bike I just need to incorporate a surfboard rack will use your setup as my blueprint for storage. Couple of things on the cons, seems everywhere else in the world gets a different package to the US when it comes to the WR. In AUS the bike comes road registered standard so tyres are DOT approved off the floor. There is a steel subframe the road legal indicator/brake assembly mounts to which most people remove and fit the 'off-road' plate holder, this obviously isn't supplied on US spec WR but you could check Yamaha Aus part catalogue and import one. Also tractor factor, US WR doesn't include comp ecu and map switch like AUS/UK model have as standard equipment. That along with sourcing a 19' onwards yzf header pipe (stock WR header has BAK1 stamp in AUS and is smaller diameter to meet sound/emissions) and either cutting out the backfire wire screen or fitting a no-toil style air filter cage will most likely be more then enough power. Doing those mods brings the bike to YZ250F specs apart from the exhaust cam which is different in the WR but better for adventure/trail riding. 52 tooth sprocket with a 110/90 rear tire made a big difference as well but that combo would not be suitable for extended highway imo is perfect for trails and MX. Keep the adventures coming I was doubtful I could turn my WR into a dual sport whilst still been good on the MX track but after seeing what you have done on a stock bike I think it's easier then anticipated.
@Rally_ADVentures
@Rally_ADVentures 2 года назад
Thank you. I’m curious to see your setup when you get the surfboard rack installed.
@Rally_ADVentures
@Rally_ADVentures 2 года назад
I initially only seen your first paragraph in your comment. For better tractor factor I’m considering installing a heavier flywheel. I was not aware the WRF was available factory street legal in other markets. I have a 52 tooth sprocket still in its package. I am planning on installing it when I put on new tires.
@reecehall5299
@reecehall5299 2 года назад
It’s my understanding the WR already has a heavier flywheel then the YZF but can’t be sure about that. GYTR flywheel is $600 Aud for our engines. If you can track down a 2nd hand YZF header pipe for the 19’ it is the best bang bang for buck mod on these bikes imo the BAK1 header is only for emissions/noise and is the most restrictive part on the WR engine followed by the intake which is an easy fix. I’ll keep you updated on the surfboard rack it shouldn’t be too hard there’s thousands of klx 150 type bikes getting around Indonesia with racks I just need to be able to take it off easily for track days and trail rides.
@olddirtbiker5088
@olddirtbiker5088 2 года назад
You nailed it on your review. I just got a 2008 WR250F, so no fuel injection but otherwise similar. I also have a 2006 TW200 which I like but there is no comparison in suspension, performance and brakes, although it's nice having a lower seat height. You are right about the light weight, as I ride alone mostly and when I tipped over with my leg under the bike it wasn't too hard to get out from under it. I had a FE350 Husky that I liked but had to pay $500 to get a kick starter installed. Not a great idea to make a dirt bike without a kick start IMO. The lack of a rear subframe is a con and only saved 3 pounds perhaps. It would be nice to install a sturdy rear rack, but I bought the Tusk soft luggage set up. I might get a lowering link (I installed one on my 2005 WR450F and it made a big difference in being able to dab my foot down) but I'm going to try to man up and keep the stock height. Keep up the good vids.
@Rally_ADVentures
@Rally_ADVentures 2 года назад
TW200 are great bikes. It is more fun to go "fast" with something that is "slow" then "slow" with something that is "fast". The lowering link you put on your 2005 WR450F. Did it make a big difference with the suspension? or with your confindence, comfort and ability to better handle and ride the bike with your feet being closer to the ground?
@olddirtbiker5088
@olddirtbiker5088 2 года назад
@@Rally_ADVentures The Yamalink lowering link I put on my WR450 lowered it about an inch and a half. Contrary to what some riders say, I noticed no adverse effect on the handling. I think you would have to be riding at a competition level to notice. I also lowered the front forks about a half inch in the triple clamps, the maximum that I was able to. I'm 6 feet tall, but it made a huge difference in my confidence about putting my feet down if I was about to go down, particularly if I was straddling a dip. I can't find a Yamalink for my 2008 WR250F but I think there is a Kouba link I think it's called that lowers the 250 about an inch. Installation of a link is reversible and about $100. I will give it a try if I find the 37 inch seat height too annoying.
@Rally_ADVentures
@Rally_ADVentures 2 года назад
@@olddirtbiker5088 yes, the seat height is plenty talk on the WR.
@Rally_ADVentures
@Rally_ADVentures 2 года назад
When I purchased the Seat Concepts seat for my bike I seen an option for a 1 inch lower seat. I went with the standard height. Moving the forks in the triple clamp to lower the bike a bit is clever. Did you notice any handling differences? or same as rear link? it would take a picky pro. 🙂
@olddirtbiker5088
@olddirtbiker5088 2 года назад
@@Rally_ADVentures No difference felt with the triple clamp lowered but I couldn't lower it more than about a half inch-- I recall something blocking going lower.
@fynn8252
@fynn8252 2 года назад
Good review! That’s awesome you’re getting 50+mpg for all the terrain being tackled. You didn’t re-gear the sprockets for street, right?
@Rally_ADVentures
@Rally_ADVentures 2 года назад
Bike still has stock gears/gearing (13/51). I have a 52 tooth rear sprocket in a package I may put on when I install a new rear tire. It won’t change it much (about 2%), but might give it a wee bit more “tractor factor”.
@henrikforsberg683
@henrikforsberg683 2 года назад
A fmf powerbomb header pipe made a huge improvement on the tractor factor on my 2011 wr250f that i use as a enduro woods bike. Just make sure to get a muffler that actually muffles the sound.. 😁
@Rally_ADVentures
@Rally_ADVentures 2 года назад
If the FMF header pipe helps with the tractor factor it’s well worth the $. My ears appreciate mufflers that muffle.
@henrikforsberg683
@henrikforsberg683 2 года назад
@@Rally_ADVentures it made a noticeable difference on my bike, but i have the older generation of the engine so it might be different. But pulling power on low rpms in third gear got a lot better!
@sidvicious5848
@sidvicious5848 2 года назад
I also have a plated 2020 wr250f and love it. I take it to the trails and hit up the local dirt roads by my house. I'm hesitant to put any real road mileage as I'm afraid to prematurely wear the engine and gears running it at high rpm for an extended amount of time. Any thought?
@Rally_ADVentures
@Rally_ADVentures 2 года назад
I road run at about 60-65 mph (with an accurately calibrated speedo) it will hit 75mph with ease and over 80mpg in favorable conditions. I try to keep long durations of high rpms to a minimum, but have run down highways and dirt roads at high rpms for 1-2 hours before. I write a tally of my total miles in my service manual. Today I have 5,524 miles on the bike. I have checked the valves a few times and they are still within spec. If/When the time comes I’ll rebuild the engine.
@drmayerr
@drmayerr 2 года назад
For greater tractoring, have you tried going up a tooth or 2 on your rear sprocket? That worked very well on my WR250R & my CRF450L. The 450 didn’t need any more torque down low, it’s just that 2nd gear was too high for woods riding. Running a 51 tooth made a huge difference.
@Rally_ADVentures
@Rally_ADVentures 2 года назад
I have since removed the stock intake choke and went up 1 tooth in the rear. Amazing difference and like a whole new bike! The tractor factor is awesome and the highway speed didn’t change much.
@drmayerr
@drmayerr 2 года назад
@@Rally_ADVentures that’s what I noticed on my bikes too. A tooth or 2 can make s big difference.
@dougiequick1
@dougiequick1 2 года назад
Is headlight on whenever bike is running like all plated bikes are these days? If so it probably wouldnt take 20 minutes to add a headlight switch to turn off the headlight when starting ..some awesome back lit push button handlebar switches on amazon for like $10 last I purchaed one for my KTM auxillary lights
@Rally_ADVentures
@Rally_ADVentures 2 года назад
The RYCO street legal kit I installed has lo beam, hi beam and off functions built into the switch.
@bikelyfet666
@bikelyfet666 Год назад
How many miles do you have on it now?? Any problems so far? I just put 1100 miles on my 2013 and I’m loving it but not looking forward to typical 250f headaches
@Rally_ADVentures
@Rally_ADVentures Год назад
I currently have 6,700 miles on the bike. I have checked the valves twice and they have been in spec both times so I haven’t had to adjust them. I regularly change the oil at 500 miles and lube the chain after each ride. The only problem I have is the tires wear out too quickly. It’s been a great bike and the perfect bike for my riding style.
@666dynomax
@666dynomax 2 года назад
Well this was a really nice review. I sold my drz last year and started regretting it. Truth was I was never really happy with it and found it too top heavy and it did not enjoy going slow on trails without a lot of clutch work. Also always wanted a 6th gear and was not really a fan of the carb. It was my first bike I had in about 20 years and wasn’t sure how much road I’d run - it was very little. Am I going to be happy with the 2016 wr250f I’m looking at power wise and for riding single track and woods roads? The 2016 I’m looking at appears to have an odo with 5000km. Long term I have a kid who’s going to be hitting the road in a couple years and thought I might street it for him. Do you charge oil every 1000km as per manual? That’s not the 6000km like my drz but 1000km probably would only be annually for me anyway
@Rally_ADVentures
@Rally_ADVentures 2 года назад
After “uncorking” the 2020 WR250F I am way more happy with the bike. It unleashed way more low end torque and the “tractor factor” went from disappointing to awesome! Also, I changed the rear sprocket from stock 51t to a 52t that helped a bit to add to the “tractor factor” I’m not familiar with a 2016 model, but I’m extremely happy with the 2020.
@Rally_ADVentures
@Rally_ADVentures 2 года назад
Also, I change my oil every 800km.
@666dynomax
@666dynomax 2 года назад
@@Rally_ADVentures i bet that would be once a year for me .. not much more. still pretty easy. what do you use for oil. I think i'm going to pull the trigger on this thing tomorrow, he only wants $5000canadian. thats like $3500 USD
@Rally_ADVentures
@Rally_ADVentures 2 года назад
@@666dynomax The oil change process is a breeze. The service manual for my bike has a whole slew of recommended oil weights and viscosities.
@KaskadeHD
@KaskadeHD Год назад
@@666dynomax how has the bike been? miss the DRZ?
@khaccanhle1930
@khaccanhle1930 2 года назад
Have you replaced the piston or valves yet? I love my WR250F for dual sport, it eats up the regular dual sport bikes and spits them out. I change the oil about 15-30 hours, depending on how hard I rev it. My old 5 speed feels a bit too low on the 13-50 sprockets, so I rarely go faster than 50mph on the road. It's a real rocket, but I usually don't recommend it for most trail riders, the cost of top end changes make it more work than most people need.
@Rally_ADVentures
@Rally_ADVentures 2 года назад
What year is your current WR250F? I have not replaced piston or valves. How often do you replace your piston and valves?
@mdubzzz3133
@mdubzzz3133 2 года назад
@@Rally_ADVentures I’m think of getting a wr250f have you changed the valves yet
@khaccanhle1930
@khaccanhle1930 Год назад
​@@Rally_ADVenturesmine is a 2005. It's already had at least 1 engine rebuild.
@gadgfdsa
@gadgfdsa 2 месяца назад
Looks like you run a very high tooth rear sprocket, Id suggest run something along the lines of 14/45 combo, which may get you better "Tractor Factor". Throw a cush drive rear hub on and balance your wheels, a massive ride improvement. Thats how I run my WR450F.
@silentmoto570
@silentmoto570 2 года назад
I'm thinking of buying a dirt bike, and I don't know what to get, a 2018 Wr450f or a 2016 250f. I know I'll get better off road with a 250. How often do you change your oil? And what cruise speed do you get on the road? Since I'll be dual sporting with it I'll search for a 2020 250. But here in Costa Rica it's a bit hard to find these bikes.
@Rally_ADVentures
@Rally_ADVentures 2 года назад
I change the oil every 500 miles (800km). For cruise speed I like about 65 mph (105 kph). Top speed of the bike is just over 80 mph (130 kph).
@silentmoto570
@silentmoto570 2 года назад
@Rally With Rowley oh wow, 65mph? The same as the 450 basically, I guess that 6-speed is worth it
@Rally_ADVentures
@Rally_ADVentures 2 года назад
@@silentmoto570 it moves just fine. Not quite as quick or powerful as a 450, but still way fun. I thought I might try to have too much fun (go faster, jump bigger) if I got a 450. So, to decrease the risk of hurting myself I got a 250 and still go fast and jump bigger than I anticipated.
@silentmoto570
@silentmoto570 2 года назад
@Rally With Rowley no yeah, it's going to be my first dirt bike and 450 way too much, since I am going to dual sport that's why i thought of one, but hearing that the 250 is good and gets me more space to improve my skills so am leaning more on a 250.
@gillesgenete9598
@gillesgenete9598 2 года назад
Hi, I used to ride a wr250f for enduro. I just changed for a ktm 500excf, which is as capable as the 250 on enduro ride, and way better on dual sport riding.
@666dynomax
@666dynomax 2 года назад
What’s the talk about piston and valves? I thought this was two stroke territory stuff? Looking at one with 5000km I have no issue changing oil frequently realistically dirt bike season for me is only 3/4 months anyway
@Rally_ADVentures
@Rally_ADVentures 2 года назад
Mechanically, the engine is still stock. I have checked the valves a couple times and I have NOT adjusted them as they are still within spec. I have NOT checked compression, but the engine is still running strong and I have no reason to believe the piston needs attention.
@petskll
@petskll Год назад
It's a race bike (light weight, high performance), hence it's gonna need piston changes and engine rebuilds like 2 storke's, but maybe not quite as often.
@dougiequick1
@dougiequick1 2 года назад
Cons would be fuel range, maintence frequency (if you want bike to last) Have not ridden one but I am guessing close ratio tranny which might be less than idea for dual sport idk...The fuel range I am guessing can be fixed with aftermarket tank? But the biggest con for me I think would be trying to register one in california? Anyone here manage that?
@Rally_ADVentures
@Rally_ADVentures 2 года назад
The bike gets about 50mpg. It has a 2.2 gallon tank and I carry the 1 gallon RotopaX on long adventures. The WR in WR250F is for Wide Ratio. I’ve read of people registering bikes that are not factory street legal outside of California and using them in California.
@mathewbarraclough1013
@mathewbarraclough1013 11 месяцев назад
You’re joking about the “tractor factor” right? This bike has one of the lowest and slowest first gears in its class.
@Squarebodyshelley
@Squarebodyshelley 2 года назад
Ghosts moving the camera
@Rally_ADVentures
@Rally_ADVentures 2 года назад
👻 almost knocked the camera over.
@milesgreen9705
@milesgreen9705 2 года назад
Bit echoey Mate!!
@Rally_ADVentures
@Rally_ADVentures 2 года назад
Thank you. I’ll work on it.
@ahsnap9103
@ahsnap9103 2 года назад
Audio fail
@Rally_ADVentures
@Rally_ADVentures 2 года назад
I’ve tried a few different audio set ups and I am learning what NOT to do. I’m working on it. Thank you for your input.
@drott150
@drott150 8 месяцев назад
Audio is a complete and total fail. Either (1) get a good remote microphone or (2) do a voiceover of the bike leaving yourself out of the shot. Also, dimly lit, far away footage of the bike is another fail. If videos are worth doing, they're worth doing right. And none of what I described has to cost 1 red cent either.
@stephencartwright5046
@stephencartwright5046 2 года назад
Sound is soooo bad
@Rally_ADVentures
@Rally_ADVentures 2 года назад
Thanks for the input. Maybe I’ll redo the video.
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