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Using Printed Schematics To Finish Repairing This 1968 Chicago Coin GUNSMOKE Pinball Machine! #6 

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@stephensejda5213
@stephensejda5213 3 года назад
Great EM memories. Repaired them in the mid 70's. Most fun job I ever had.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
It is fun seeing them come back alive! Thank you for watching Stephen!
@Slide100
@Slide100 3 года назад
What a fantastic series! Insomnia allowed me to binge it today. Fascinating! My work occasionally afforded me contact with elevator techs fixing relay logic elevator controllers. Many of the troubleshooting concepts you are showing are exactly the same as what they do. This was a master class in relay logic.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
Thank you Slide100 that's very kind of you to say, see you on the next video!
@ocsrc
@ocsrc 2 года назад
Sweet. So cool to see this old guy back up and running.
@MrButtonpresser
@MrButtonpresser 3 года назад
I just love those new game reset sounds.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
Yeah it's pretty cool to listen to :)
@brianjohnson4616
@brianjohnson4616 3 года назад
It's a pain to figure out the hundreds of things that can go wrong, but I bet it feels great when it gets fixed!
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
Yup, that's the best part! Thank you for watching Brian!
@silverian
@silverian 3 года назад
This flipper also brings back old memories. Nice repair work again. Great to see how you solve problem by looking schematics during troubleshooting process.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
Thank you Silverian we appreciate you watching!
@JacGoudsmit
@JacGoudsmit 3 года назад
You could make an EM pinball machine completely quiet by putting a couple of diodes in it to run all the relays on DC instead of AC. But first of all, you'd need some pretty beefy diodes, and second, the 50 or 60 Hz buzz is what makes it cool! "Come on people!"
@Bombtheory
@Bombtheory 3 года назад
Ronnie, put the front legs on blocks! =)
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
That'd be cheating :) I did do that when we first set it up.
@randywilliams9531
@randywilliams9531 3 года назад
Been enjoying your videos, would love to bring a roll of quarters to help test the machine
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
They're on Free Play! thanks for watching, Randy!
@pezjohnson
@pezjohnson 3 года назад
Good work through. Great looking game too.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
Thanks Pez!
@wdavem
@wdavem 3 года назад
Great video, just subbed. I love anything with light bulbs and a relay controller
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
Thank you wdavem we appreciate it!
@cptnwiz
@cptnwiz 3 года назад
did you fix the knocker ?
@miguelrios4602
@miguelrios4602 3 года назад
Another fine production! Thanks. I get a hankering to mess with my machines watching these videos, but I just do some light cleaning here and there. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. Joe seems to have gone radio silence on us Ronnie:p Tell him we need a shout out every once in a while. Catch you on the next one!
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
He's usually here in the morning and i'm in the evening so after he leaves a lot of the time is when we film, so he's not always on camera :) Thanks for watching as always Miguel!
@gwesco
@gwesco 3 года назад
I would have used a hose clamp on that split collar as it would not being allowing the cam to run sort of elliptical. That could cause the switch to not make in certain parts of the revolution of the cam.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
That would work very well!
@wackyworldofwindios3476
@wackyworldofwindios3476 3 года назад
Good Morning Joe . Get RR Done. This one had a few snafus to fix. How much time do you spend on an typical pinball fix up? Also , Which one takes more time to fix EM or Solid-State. machines ?
@amnril
@amnril 3 года назад
After watching this series I can appreciate the ‘enigma machine’ level of complexity that went into the design of these pre CPU machines. I’m guessing the first ever machine was the hardest and then once that was done and tested, they could slowly expand upon the formula. Also, I’ve learnt not ever to buy one of these as they are clearly super temperamental by now.
@gregoryschmidt1233
@gregoryschmidt1233 3 года назад
I don't know why, but this trouble-shooting reminds me of bookkeeping in the days before computers. If your numbers don't add up at the end of the month, and you have no idea where the error is, you just start going back through your ledger pages and very methodically re-adding all the rows and columns. The mistake is always in there somewhere, it's just a matter of finding it!
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
Yup, I can see it being a lot like that, gotta hit the paperwork up :) Thanks for watching Gregory!
@jazzdirt
@jazzdirt 3 года назад
How you fixed it last time was taking the spider appart, and clean the "clutch" (the bit of cork).
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
I think you're right, lol we'll get to it :)
@mattriley1426
@mattriley1426 3 года назад
Hi Joe, the thing you forgot to fix is the knocker! I have a williams skylab that also has no knocker operation. I cant figure it out. I was hoping you would help me with that
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
I've fixed it on some other ones but it's hard to remember which videos, I've done a ton of them :) The knocker circuit is very simple, basically everytime a credit gets added to the game, the knocker goes off because there's a switch directly on the credit wheel on the back that closes and makes the knocker go off as the wheel turns. IF your game has been set on freeplay, it may have been done in such a way that the game no longer adds credits and the credit wheel doesn't move. If that's how it's setup, the knocker will not work because you're already at your maximum number of credits.
@mattriley1426
@mattriley1426 3 года назад
Yes i have checked the switch works in the back, the game credits will advance properly as it should and even jumped the knocker with a 12 volt battery charger and it works then. But wont knock when the game credit advances. I have a video on the operation….
@ryanstroh4120
@ryanstroh4120 3 года назад
I try to watch all your videos. Mostly the pins. I've learned a lot especially reading schematics. Even being an electrician by trade, pinball schematics confuse me. Question, in general, are they usually written as game powered on as it sits, powered off, or on and start button pushed?
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
I thought it was powered off, but I recently found on the schematics it says "in reset position"
@wdavem
@wdavem 3 года назад
I do electronic work and those schematics are different for sure - that one relay is all over the place can be confusing. Elevators are worse. I tried to learn relay schematics on an elevator controller (junk that is removed from service) and got nowhere until I made my own notation that puts each relay in one place. That has it's drawbacks also!
@melcrose
@melcrose 3 года назад
Incredible. Thanks so much for filming! AND.. you have the same voice as the "chrome unboxed" guy, just FYI. :)
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
You mean he's got the same voice as me :) Thanks for watching Jeff!
@wino99999
@wino99999 3 года назад
27:23 not only the face of relay is dirty, but the Bronze or Brass insert in the middle of the face may be too flattened. The Bronze/Brass Stud is meant to introduce some resistance into the Magnetic circuit (Reluctance) by making an Air Gap between the face of the relay (pole) and the Armature. In this instance the Armature has a mark from the pole which extends across the face of the Brass insert onto the Soft Iron of the Armature. It may just be sticky because of the dirt, but potentially may also be because the Stud is worn too flat, therefore with no resistance (Reluctance) from the Stud the magnetic circuit is shorted and the relay will never release! Some relays have an adjustable Stud which means you can make the relay fast to release (Large Stud/Air Gap) or potentially slow it down by decreasing the Air Gap, even locking it up completely if it's adjusted to be too small!
@perfectpete1
@perfectpete1 Год назад
So similar to my Twinky game. The Twinky game has a peacock that has feathers that light up when you land in the top hole. New players always look around and try to figure out what to do when it activates.
@mattriley1426
@mattriley1426 3 года назад
Love your vids for sure!!
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
Thanks Matt, we appreciate you watching!
@Doughiemantoo
@Doughiemantoo 3 года назад
Join us next time for "As The Cam Turns".
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
hahaha that's one way to put it :)
@simondempsey1
@simondempsey1 3 года назад
Nice job Ron, what a lovely machine.
@fred_derf
@fred_derf 3 года назад
Thanks for another great pinball repair series. I have a question on this machine, what are the numbers (0 through 6) at the top of the back glass for? Is it a match function? If so, where are the 7, 8, and 9?
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
0-6 are up on the top left and 7.8.9 are on the top right, yes they're the match numbers.... I did a video about this game a couple years ago and it had a better backglass, you can see it better.... check it out here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-v8jDsxHipzk.html
@fred_derf
@fred_derf 3 года назад
@@LyonsArcade Thanks Ron, I was wondering about that the whole series and it never came up. I've probably already watched the other video but just don't remember -- so I guess it's time to watch again.
@tigerjeb
@tigerjeb 3 года назад
another happy ending
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
haha thanks Tigerjeb!
@RS2000XPACK
@RS2000XPACK 3 года назад
Very Cool mate ;)
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
Thanks RS2000xpack we appreciate you watching as always :)
@1976aztec
@1976aztec 3 года назад
cool game
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
It really is! Thank you for watching and subscribing Michael, we appreciate that.
@vonfleppestein
@vonfleppestein 3 года назад
the magnet buzzes because it works on ac voltage. magnets that work on dc voltage dont do the buzz
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
That makes sense thanks vonfleppestein!
@jasonrackawack9369
@jasonrackawack9369 3 года назад
@@LyonsArcade In old lionel trains that run on ac I have seen guys add a small rectfier to make the power to the solenoid coils dc. It is usefull if the buzzing on the reverse switch solenoids is loud and annoying, it cuts one of the ac waves to eliminate the back and forth pulsing of power in the coil......Im not an electronics guy but it may be an idea to look into to quiet down a really noisy solenoid in a game.
@waynegram8907
@waynegram8907 3 года назад
JOE'S CLASSIC, I never saw you fix the "Ball Return Gate" it never closes it just stays open, any reasons why its staying open and not closing? The "Gunsmoke Switch" on the schematic is drawn with a special symbol, any reasons why or what type of special switch they are using for the gunsmoke switch?
@avelord6135
@avelord6135 3 года назад
If you pay attention he explains it in the video, there is a jumper the owner can set to either keep the gate open or close it when you scratch the ball. It's kind of a "difficulty level" switch. at about 12:00 .
@fred_derf
@fred_derf 3 года назад
The Gunsmoke switch is shown differently because it's a push button and not a leaf switch (that's my guess anyway).
@gwesco
@gwesco 3 года назад
I'm suprized you don't have a simple coil winder to fix those instead of having to wait for a new one.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
That's a lot of work, I just order the new ones. Thanks for watching George.
@patpirtle
@patpirtle 3 года назад
Did you fix the Special/Knocker? I think that was the thing you forgot during the video when you were trying to remember what to write down.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
I did later but yes I think that's what I forgot! Thank you Pat!
@patpirtle
@patpirtle 3 года назад
@@LyonsArcade Awesome! Just ran across your channel and you are really ruining my productivity. lol
@brianwild4640
@brianwild4640 3 года назад
change the 10's reel to with the thousands reel
@jamesdoan4293
@jamesdoan4293 3 года назад
How do I get in touch with yall I need help on a rock-ola 483 with the logic board and profit setter
@kh40yr
@kh40yr 3 года назад
The same buzz you hear on a digital OR analog hobby servo,,as it tries to hold center,,or neutral. Once you get the linkages or ?? perfect,,to where it is not pulling Amps/mA/ drawing juice,,no more buzz. Think of adjusting the vertical or horizontal hold on a old Zenith TV. Same thing,,of sorts. Those are BITCHIN caveman schematics,,and I love them. At 11:42,,,never put it on Liberal,,it will never return the ball,,,EVER!!. At least on Conservative, you get it back once in awhile. Badump-Bump!!!,,,or as Joe likes to say "Waa---Waaa---Waaaaaa!!!". That Gunsmoke game is Politically incorrect. How dare it be that way,, oh yeah,,,,1968.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
1968 they didn't care, lol Thanks for watching kh40yr!
@Erwinhooi
@Erwinhooi 3 года назад
Looks like a final episode is missing…!
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
We couldn't play it because we didn't have the right legs for it.... BUT we did play another Gun Smoke, check this out : - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-v8jDsxHipzk.html
@yowl00
@yowl00 3 года назад
How come you can only get 15 credits when it looks like that reel goes up to around 30?
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
There is a setting on the wheel that changes it to different values...
@MUSEDR00L
@MUSEDR00L 2 года назад
what about the free game knocker?
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