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Using the Roland MC-303 Groovebox to sequence external hardware synthesizers over midi. 

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This is a bit of an exhaustive tutorial on using the Roland MC-303 to sequence external midi hardware synthesizers - you've been warned! Scroll down for the table of contents.
I've seen a few people wondering about sequencing external gear with an MC-303 in various forums, and no one ever really answered the question so I decided to test it out for myself. If you are thinking of getting an MC-303 it can be a decent drum machine and it can sequence external gear, if you have the patience to learn how to program sequences on it.
The Roland MC-303 Groovebox is a ROMpler drum machine, synth module, and 8-track sequencer from the 90s geared towards techno/trance/house/jungle and other 90s electronic dance music styles. It gets pretty terrible reviews on the interweb because the preset patterns are frankly awful, but it does have okay lo-fi samples of many of the Roland drum machines and synths that people love. You can't create your own patches from scratch, you can only sort-of edit the ones that are already on it, but that's for another video...
I believe in getting the most out of whatever gear you have so I wanted to test out the sequencing capabilities of the MC-303. I've used it in the past to sequence many of the on-board internal sounds, but I wanted to test it with external gear while I save up for an MPC-One or some other modern midi-sequencer.
In this video I set up a pretty basic (i.e. monotonous) pattern to sequence a Roland MC-101, a Roland D-05, a Moog Grandmother (sorry for mispronouncing Moog so often!), and a Sequential Circuits Six-Trak. I kept the pattern simple for the tutorial but I don't think there's any reason the MC-303 couldn't sync more complex patterns. The MC-303 is limited to about 14000 notes, however, and there's no memory expansion. If you run out of space you'd have to dump the memory to a midi-librarian on your computer to save it and clear up space for new patterns.
Another thing to note is that the MC-303 cannot send bank and program changes to your external gear.
0:00 Introduction
1:14 MC-303 System and Part set-up; midi-channels; Output Assign
6:52 Rhythm (drums) set-up and sequencing the MC-101 drums
8:36 Making a rhythm track using step-recording
11:16 Recording a Part in real-time
12:23 Setting up midi-thru on external hardware
12:52 Overview of the MC-303 arpeggiator
15:13 Recording an arpeggio part to be played by the Moog Grandmother
17:54 Playing a live part over the pattern
22:33 Setting up a Pattern on the MC-303
25:40 Using Part Mute
27:40 Tweaking external devices during playback
28:32 The beginning of the full sequence on 6 midi channels plus one part being played live - it's long!
35:07 Midi CC-message (Control Change) pass-through
37:00 'One more thing' - changing patterns during a live performance
41:12 Song Mode
44:06 Sequencing the SCI Six-Trak with the MC-303 - timing issues?
51:15 Conclusion
Just a note if you are using the MC-303 internal sounds for some parts and external synths for other parts, and playing it all with a midi-controller keyboard like I do in the video: the midi-keyboard will trigger sounds of the MC-303 as well as the external gear (it will sound both devices), so you need to turn down the level of the parts you don't want to hear from the MC-303 by using FUNC & the Cutoff knob on each of those parts. For example, if you are using the drums of the MC-303 and part 1 on the MC-303, but you've got an external synth on part 2 (midi channel 2), you'll want to turn down the level of part 2 on the MC-303, otherwise you'll hear both the external synth sound and the sound of whatever tone is assigned to part 2 on the MC-303. And believe me, that will drive you mad.
**the lights and LED display on the MC-303 appear to be constantly flashing/blinking in the video but that's just an issue with the frame rate of my camera and the refresh rate on the MC-303. The lights & display don't blink like that in-person.
** In the video I mention turning on midi-thru on the MC-303 *a lot*, and I didn't think it was mentioned in the manual, but I did just find it as an addendum to the manual on the last page.

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@mysticstylus
@mysticstylus 2 года назад
As someone that had questions long unanswered in a forum specifically regarding trouble with the Keystep to control external devices through the MC-303, I am eternally grateful for you taking the time to record this walkthrough. Thanks!!
@CorduroyCam
@CorduroyCam 2 года назад
You're welcome, glad you found the video useful. Hope you also saw the note near the end of the description about turning down part-levels on the MC-303 if you want to use sounds from the MC-303 as well as external hardware sounds - the Keystep will trigger both MC-303 sounds and external sounds, so just turn down the volume 'level' of the parts you don't want triggered in the MC-303. I didn't mention dip-switch settings on the Keystep. I believe I had mine on Internal, but I haven't tried passing the arpeggiator or sequencer on the Keystep through the MC-303 to external gear - I think that would warp my mind trying to get that to work.
@marcotixxx
@marcotixxx Год назад
thanks so much for this! i’ve been searching for videos on how to sync midi from the 303 to other devices. i totally get it now. awesome vid! PS i’ve been using the MC303 for years and i just recently got a JD-Xi, so i figured i’d sync them via midi for a live drum n bass rig.
@CorduroyCam
@CorduroyCam Год назад
Thanks Marco! I've had my MC-303 for years as well and I'm still learning. I think it can do some awesome drum & bass! If you are going to use the MC-303 live you may want to check out my other video about pattern sets. I have a bunch of Roland gear - I'll have to check out the JD-Xi.
@marcotixxx
@marcotixxx Год назад
@@CorduroyCam i’ll check out your pattern sets video later. thanks again!
@CorduroyCam
@CorduroyCam Год назад
The JD-Xi looks interesting, like something Kilo Ren would use. Seems like each part is on a different midi channel which makes it "easy" to sequence with the MC-303 (if that's the plan).
@zoizolaplume7773
@zoizolaplume7773 Год назад
Think you so mush
@CorduroyCam
@CorduroyCam Год назад
You're welcome
@meklootngerard1496
@meklootngerard1496 Год назад
Thx for the video i just bought one mc 303today and have to learn
@CorduroyCam
@CorduroyCam Год назад
Awesome, have fun, it has some hidden potential.
@cruzcoronado3876
@cruzcoronado3876 2 года назад
thx for this video . you saved my life
@CorduroyCam
@CorduroyCam 2 года назад
You're welcome! Glad it helped - it's a surprisingly useful sequencer once you get it figured out.
@conmanonamission
@conmanonamission Год назад
I think im the 808 viewer 🤗😉
@CorduroyCam
@CorduroyCam Год назад
Ha, right on!
@Martenwestin
@Martenwestin Год назад
Hi, thanks for this video. Lot of useful info :) but I have problem sending clock thru my mc303 to my tr8. I want my keystep 37 to be master clock -> mc303-> tr8. U have any ideas ?
@CorduroyCam
@CorduroyCam Год назад
You're welcome. I haven't tried this yet but I may test it later: Put the MC-303 on Slave mode (look at page 72 of the manual); turn on SYNC OUT on the MC-303 (see page 73 of the manual); turn on midi-thru on the MC-303 (like how I show in the video) - this step may be unnecessary unless you want the Keystep to trigger sounds on the TR8; put the dip switches on the Keystep to Internal (for Internal clock); and check the TR8 manual to see how to set it to receive external clock (maybe "Auto"?) and external transport (maybe "MIDI real-time message reception"?). Are you using the ARP or the sequencer on the Keystep? Those could trigger pattern-sequences that are in the MC-303 to play. Let me know if you run in to issues with that because I may have some ideas.
@CorduroyCam
@CorduroyCam Год назад
I did a test on this and got it working - I'll make a little video about it because a lot of people seem to like using the keystep with the MC-303. Follow the steps I mentioned above, but there's one extra thing you have to do on the keystep: since you have to press play on the keystep to start everything, you have to have the keystep on a sequence, but then it will play the internal sequence and the MC-303 will respond, so you just have to erase the sequence in the keystep. You'll have to check the keystep manual on how to erase a sequence or wait for my video.
@martin984
@martin984 2 года назад
Why is the display blinking like that? Is there a way to stop the rapid blinking?
@CorduroyCam
@CorduroyCam 2 года назад
The display doesn't actually blink like that in-person. It may be because the camera I used is 30fps but the display on the MC-303 refreshes at a lower rate? (It uses 9 volts DC, so I don't think it's refreshing at 60 Hz.) A lot of RU-vid videos of the MC-303 have the same issue - I saw a video where the guy speculates the refresh rate is 12 Hz, but who knows?
@dreamlandtapes
@dreamlandtapes Год назад
nice info , it would have been better to hear what you were playing in real time , very useful info thanks!
@CorduroyCam
@CorduroyCam Год назад
Thanks and you're welcome! I did play a bit in real-time over the sequence (I played the Roland D-05 in real-time at 17:55) but I know what you mean. I was holding my camera in one hand so I only had one hand to play! I'll be making a shorter, more focused video on this soon, so I'll try to include more real-time playing in that one (with both hands, haha).
@dreamlandtapes
@dreamlandtapes Год назад
by the way have you got the chance to link it with a model cycles machine=?
@CorduroyCam
@CorduroyCam Год назад
I haven't got access to a Model:Cycles I'm afraid. I think linking it to a Model:Cycles would be similar to linking it to the MC-101 though. I'll be doing another video on linking the MC-303 with the MC-101 so hopefully that'll have some useful info for you.
@MusicwithMachines
@MusicwithMachines Год назад
I did a live where the MC303 was the master MIDI sequencer (no sound from it) : ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-tzQMBfFrUp0.html
@CorduroyCam
@CorduroyCam Год назад
That's great Benoit! I hope some other MC-303 users check out your video to see that it can be a good little sequencer.
@MusicwithMachines
@MusicwithMachines Год назад
@@CorduroyCam thank you :-) It’s a mix of positive and negative sides when it comes to use it as a main MIDI sequencer but people can do it !
@CorduroyCam
@CorduroyCam Год назад
@@MusicwithMachines Couldn't agree more! It can be a challenge, but it can be fun. I don't think too many people are looking to go out and buy an MC-303 as their main sequencer these days, but if you already have one and haven't figured out all the functions yet, it's probably more useful than you would think. I'll link to your video and some others in my future MC-303 videos, if you don't mind?
@MusicwithMachines
@MusicwithMachines Год назад
@@CorduroyCam no problem :-)
@lostboyz6454
@lostboyz6454 День назад
So basically the answer is yes, the mc 303 is also an midi sequencer to make it short? Great I'm getting one. I hate DAWs
@CorduroyCam
@CorduroyCam Час назад
Haha, short answer is yes. It's okay as a sequencer (for the price) but it can't transmit bank or program changes to your other synths, so you have to select the sounds you want on those external synths. Maybe not the best for playing a live set but this person managed it: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-tzQMBfFrUp0.html
@westbethkid
@westbethkid Год назад
Wow--awesome. I as well have the MC 303 AND the Six Trak 😃
@CorduroyCam
@CorduroyCam Год назад
Right on! I don't use my Six Trak enough. I did upgrade the firmware ROM in it to version 14 and I have another video of sequencing it with the MC-303 where the midi sync-timing seems a lot better than in this video (which I just realised I haven't posted, but trust me, the timing is better), but it's also not at the end of a chain of 5 synths in that video.
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