USS Saratoga (CV-3) - Guide 233

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USS Saratoga, the second Lexington class carrier of the US Navy, is today's subject.
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@Drachinifel 3 года назад

Pinned post for Q&A :)

@kingquackie7284 3 года назад

What would happen if the IJN had a 6 ship carrier class that had double hangars, that were as tall as the American carrier hangars and damage control crew training and a bit of British style survivability and AA capabilities with British radars while Japanese planes and aircrew are used. How would the war go and how capable is this Japanese super carrier?

@pozzyjr1675 3 года назад

Did anyone at any point in history (if documented of course) try to shoot at incoming torpedoes with the intention of defending their ship?

@QuizmasterLaw 3 года назад

Looks like Brittania's rebellious child is up to no good again, huh! Looking forward to your insights. Your analysis of what happened to the Hood was brilliant. I guess my only question from this is how much better an armoured carrier would have done against a half dozen bombs and another half dozen kamikazes. Of course, a Japanese carrier would have been sunk due to bad damage control, but would that many hits have even disabled a British armoured carrier? (Relevance: are hypersonic missiles today's kamikazes?)

@thehandoftheking3314 3 года назад

Will you be doing a video on the Flying Aircraft Carriers of the USN? I mean technically they are "ships"....

@peteranderson037 3 года назад

Here's a question for Drydock that I'm too lazy to Google. Were the armored barbettes removed during the conversion process on the Lexington and the Saratoga?

@ph89787 3 года назад

November 1942 Saratoga: Hey what did I miss? Enterprise: Not much.

@bostonrailfan2427 3 года назад

“where’s my sister?” “...umm, about that...”

@ph89787 3 года назад

@@bostonrailfan2427 That was after midway.

@bostonrailfan2427 3 года назад

@@ph89787 yes, as well as Coral Sea...sorry for the bad joke trying to piggyback on your joke

@ph89787 3 года назад

@@bostonrailfan2427 I know. Just shifting the timing

@bostonrailfan2427 3 года назад

@@ph89787 ...poor gal, had bad luck with timing every time but might have saved her: if she was at Midway she might have been lost too!

@Big_E_Soul_Fragment 3 года назад

Love Lexington and Saratoga's *absolute unit* of a funnel

@BogeyTheBear 3 года назад

1:54 As evidenced here, it's actually all four main funnels shrouded together.

@Cbabilon675 3 года назад

If I'm not mistaken you must have a favorite character is Exeter on azur Lane judging by the picture. Mine happens to be Jean Bart😁

@USSAnimeNCC- 3 года назад

But what about the hangar them hangar big

@mayuri4184 3 года назад

Kantai's Sara has a nice body I love. I also love her onee-san type personality.

@Blackjack701AD 3 года назад

Size does matter

@de-173 3 года назад

Lady Lex and Sister Sara were such beautiful ships, only if Sara was still around. She didn't deserve what she got.

@murraystewartj 3 года назад

After what she went through, agreed, but at least she went out in some kind of service and is still there. A more honorable fate than CV6 got despite the efforts to save her. What a fantastic museum ship the Big E would have been!

@andro7862 3 года назад

@@murraystewartj Honestly Enterprise had an unmatched service record, Saratoga was just on the sidelines.

@orzorzelski1142 3 года назад

Sexy Lexi

@Deevo037 3 года назад

The epitaph of so many great warships.

@murraystewartj 3 года назад

@@andro7862 Yeah, that was kind of my point. Enterprise earned something like 20 battle stars and is the only US navy ship to receive a Royal Navy pennant (an honor most Royal navy ships would kill for - if you know what I mean). Reportedly sunk many times by the Japanese, she kept coming back from her wounds and was there until almost the end of the war, doing her last service as part of the Magic Carpet operation. I'm a big Star Trek fan, but when Picard goes on about remembering the name "Enterprise", it's CV6 that's in my heart.If you want your heart to break, check out the videos of a stripped down Enterprise being towed to the ship breakers after efforts to buy her failed. Never defeated by the enemy, but betrayed by the country (represented by government bean counters) she so valiantly protected.

@bificommander7472 3 года назад

Lexington class as a battlecruiser: All the funnels. Lexington class as a carrier: One is all you need.

@donaldparlettjr3295 3 года назад

The Sara was my wife's grandfather first carrier. He arrived when she was being repaired from the first torpedo hit. He served on her till sent over to the Intrepid as a plank owner. He served till 1973 serving through 3wars, all on carriers.

@maryreinitz1622 3 года назад

It's crazy how big of a step up Lexington and Saratoga were over Langley.

@s.31.l50 3 года назад

Lexington class bow section is so smooth, USN didn’t go back to this enclosed bow section design until much much later. What a ship.

@doomguy.23frommars60 3 года назад

Ik right? It's so sexy

@NguyenThanh-gs5zv 3 года назад

I suspect due to calm water in Pacific which doesn't need enclosed bow, where the space available for you to put more AA guns.

@CFRF13 3 года назад

One of Lady Sara’s finest moments came on November 5th 1943. With the outcome of the Battle of Empress Augusta Bay not being in their favor, the Japanese were gathering additional cruisers at Rabaul for another try at the landing forces at Bougainville. With most Allied assets operating elsewhere at the time, Saratoga alongside Light Carrier Princeton launched a surprise raid on Rabaul, catching the Japanese off guard. With their airmen ordered to disperse their damage amongst the Japanese cruisers no ships were sunk, however enough heavy units suffered incapacitating damage to force the Japanese to cancel their operation.

@jeebus6263 3 года назад

I seem to remember seeing something about this, not sure what channel. All their aircraft on site were destroyed right?

@theodoresmith5272 3 года назад

The kicker was the whole reason we were work in that area was to build run ways so land based aircraft could be used against rabual. They didnt want to risk carrier aircraft as it was heavily defended as carrier crews/aircraft were very valuable. Halsey didnt have many escorts to fight a ship on ship battle and the landing fleet were vulnerable so he had to use thr carriers. In the end, they bypassed the harbour but it was an important campaign as it wore the japanese down.

@thunderchaser2042 3 года назад

Go with the idea that a "mission kill" is just as good as actually sending a ship to the bottom.

@Easy-Eight 3 года назад

That was an excellent strike. The Japanese cruisers were professional ship killers. This strike broke their back. The ships spent months in repairs, they overwhelmed the dockyards, and the end result most of the cruisers were picked off one by one.

@thunderchaser2042 3 года назад

@@Easy-Eight Exactly why a "mission kill" is as good, if not even better than an actual kill. Think about it like this. What is going to tie up more resources like manpower and drydock space, a ship that is now sitting on the bottom, or a steady supply of ships that have had the hell beat out of them waiting their turn to get repaired?

@niskaa78 3 года назад

"Ah, Don't worry, they'll get out of the way. Learned that driving the Saratoga." - Captain Ron, 1992

@Nikarus2370 3 года назад

Love that damn movie. Hell summer is rolling around. gotta add that to the watchlist.

@JoshuaTootell 3 года назад

I will watch the video later. I just came looking for a Captain Ron reference.

@Melody_Raventress Год назад

Damn, thanks for reminding me, gotta add that to the list.

@thehandoftheking3314 3 года назад

"Relatively safe to dive" Please be aware of giant, grumpy radioactive lizards.

@CSSVirginia 3 года назад

3.6 rotgen. Not great, not terrible.

@treyhelms5282 3 года назад

Lizards with nuclear halitosis.

@tonymanero5544 3 года назад

No. Trump’s in Florida not in a Pacific atoll.

@michaelmoorrees3585 3 года назад

@@treyhelms5282 - Ya mean like the one that stomped on Tokyo, in that 50s documentary !?

@davidwright7193 3 года назад

@@CSSVirginia but the detector maxes out at 3.6 röntgen

@BB.61 3 года назад

The first us carrier with a fully enclosed bow and hanger deck.

@tinafoster8665 3 года назад

And 8- 8 inch 55 caliber naval artillery cannon in 4 2 gun batteries, ON ONE SIDE of the ship no less, some things that sound good at the time huh lol?

@craigclemens986 3 года назад

It’s hangar, not hanger

@tinafoster8665 3 года назад

@@craigclemens986 one vowel off lol, I think the enclosed hangAr was part of what sunk or sank the Lex, even Bunker Hill or Franklin didn't burn as bad as Lex at Coral Sea n they were near complete losses

@robertgellert1325 3 года назад

@@tinafoster8665 My favorite book from Jr High was ‘Carrier War in the Pacific’. In it they mention that a contributing factor to the ferocity of the fires was the buildup of paint on the walls from repainting over the prewar years. The torpedo hits didn’t help either. Just sayin’.

@tinafoster8665 3 года назад

@@robertgellert1325 YES that's what the guy who wrote The Gulf said, peacetime Navy is All about inspection n looking sharp n paint turns passages into infernos

@jimmyslap4654 3 года назад

My grandpa was on the USS Saratoga CV-3 for the majority of the war, and he was awarded 16 battle stars. He was in the reunion club, and he proudly wore his ballcap that had the ship and rooster "mascot" with boxing gloves on it almost constantly. I am eternally proud of him, as he was an indigenous (native) kid from Oklahoma, who joined the navy at 17, serving a country who could have given two shits less about him. I still have his books, naval papers, letters, and Saratoga memorabilia.

@user-le5no6fl2l 2 месяца назад

My father was his shipmate, had his 18th birthday the day after their worst attack 2/21/44 if I remember right. Those were Great Men.

@davids9520 3 года назад

The Saratoga always seemed like the 'lost' carrier of the Pacific War during WW 2. She seemed to always be in the right place when a major battle was fought, and she survived, when other carriers of her era didn't. She just had the bad luck to twice run into Japanese submarines. Excellent video. Thank you.

@greybone777 2 года назад

Kamikaze attacks. My father in law was on the Saratoga during one of these. They limped back to Port after jamming a log into the hole in the bow. Hw was assigned to clean up the remains of nearly a thought men, some of which were just spray patterns on the bulkheads. She didn't sink even after nuclear bomb testing on bikini island and had to be scuttled.

@USSAnimeNCC- 3 года назад

How many iconic ship you want to nuke US Navy: Yes

@DK-gy7ll 3 года назад

Unfortunately just a year after WW2 nobody was thinking much about museum ships. The Navy want to get rid of all their old dinosaurs and the Army Air Force wanted to play some more with its newest toy, the A-bomb.

@TheNinjaDC 3 года назад

Ah, the Lex and Sara. The one time a battlecruiser/battleship conversion to a carrier wasn't sh%t. Love their distinct look with the clean line of AA, funnel, bridge, and more AA.

@boobah5643 3 года назад

Not sure the _Courageous_ class count as bad carriers; very sure _Akagi_ and _Kaga_ don't. _Eagle,_ sure. _Shinano_ never got a chance to do anything with her 10-day career.

@jadeorbigoso5212 2 года назад

Laughs in Kaga and Akagi that should be turned instead to Amagi Battlecruiser

@ZGryphon Год назад

@@jadeorbigoso5212 _Kaga_ was a battleship; she and _Akagi_ weren't sisters.

@stuartaaron613 3 года назад

As a result of one of her refits during the war Saratoga would end up at just over 900 feet in length, making her the longest warship in the world until the completion of the USS Midway.

@67Stang 3 года назад

As a Sara Sailor from CV-60, we continued to use the black stripe on the island. We actually had an A-7 from the JFK (CV-67) land on our deck by mistake. The tradition of graffiti continues. I am sure the plane captain was not overly happy with the pilot when he made it back to the JFK.

@TheGillhicks 3 года назад

Thank you. The Saratoga had a much bigger part in the war than I knew of.

@jamesbednar8625 3 года назад

Awesome video!! What is usually never mentioned in any type of documentaries is that USS SARATOGAs air group was transferred to USS YORKTOWN for the upcoming Midway operation. YORKTOWNs air group was so decimated at Coral Sea that, since SARATOGA was in dock for repairs and her air group was basically the only air group available and trained enough for battle, it was decided to transfer the air group, thus allowing YORKTOWN to participate at Midway, along with her incredible repairs. Had the Japanese done the same thing with SHOKAKUs air group and transferred to ZUIKAKU after Coral Sea (ZUIKAKUs air group was decimated whilst SHOKAKUs was relatively intact) then the Japanese could of had a 5th fleet carrier for Midway. SARATOGAs air group definitely does NOT get the credit it deserves for the Midway battle.

@joshuariddensdale2126 Год назад

I honestly only just caught on to the fact that at Midway, Yorktown's squadrons were designated -3, yet Yorktown was CV-5. I didn't know that Saratoga's air group was transferred to Yorktown, since Saratoga had been laid up since January.

@g.t.richardson6311 4 месяца назад

Agree .. it wasn’t the whole air group but almost

@josiahricafrente585 3 года назад

Did a paper on her during my last semester of college. Since then, she has become my favorite warship of all time.

@alanmcclenaghan7548 3 года назад

Most of these videos end: "...sunk."...scrapped." "...operation Crossroads."

@admDanRyan 3 года назад

It's kind of sad honestly

@ivangenov6782 3 года назад

USS North Carolina, USS Massachusetts, USS Alabama, USS Texas, USS Iowa, USS New Jersey, USS Missouri, USS Winsconsin, USS Yorktown (CV-10) and other european cruisers, destroyers and submarines: "ARE WE A YOKE TO YOU" Edit: re-read your comment, realised you meant most, not all of them

@shingshongshamalama 3 года назад

Somewhere there's an Azur Lane gag OVA concept in here where the entire Baker target array have shared PTSD about lagoons.

@alanmcclenaghan7548 3 года назад

@@ivangenov6782 All too rare happy endings for our beloved warships. Americans are spoilt for battleships and carriers - although it's a crime THE USS Enterprise wasn't preserved. Brits have HMS Victory, HMS Belfast, HMS Caroline and a few monitors, while HMS Dreadnought, HMS Warspite, and HMS Renown (among many other great ships) go to the scrappers!

@kemarisite 3 года назад

@@shingshongshamalama it's about the whole group of characters who go on a trip to avoid the beach episode.

@chrislondo2683 3 года назад

My great grandmother-in-law once dated a man as he had a brother who served as a radar operator on the Saratoga. He was at Iwo Jima when it was struck by a Kamikaze on February 21. The radar room he was in as he went to get food either breakfast or lunch was destroyed killing the men which made him a survivor.

@joejunior4700 3 года назад

Lexington CV class was a view to behold, they look sleek and damn big.

@user-a6m2 3 года назад

So sad to know neither of the only two carriers survived along the entire Pacific War from 7th Dec till 2nd Sep was saved as museum ship. Both Enterprise and Saratoga are the true veterans of that war who served during the most tough period and literally carried out the victory.

@foximacentauri7891 3 года назад

Man, I'd love to go diving at the baker test location. So many Iconic ships in near proximity to each other!

@matt3rd647 3 года назад

And you would glow in the dark for weeks afterwards 😉

@thekiatty6953 3 года назад

@@matt3rd647 yeah, hopefully in a lead diving suit, which means you should probably bring all the oxygen because you'll be down there a while. Nice scenery though.

@foximacentauri7891 3 года назад

@@matt3rd647 most of the location is surprisingly low radioactive, since water itself is one of the best radioactive shielding.

@Jamescraigjohnson 3 года назад

Radiation levels are very low on the Bikini wrecks and even on Bikini Island as long as you don't dig up the soil. I have been there and taken readings on the island.

@ThePinkus 3 года назад

Whenever asked "why angled flight decks?", reply "Please do a touch and go at 1:51". Also, explains why navy aviators might become uncomfortable playing bowling in those days.

@ThatChargerPursuitGuy 3 года назад

"Running Riot! Killpocalypse!"

@GrumpyGrobbyGamer 3 года назад

Forget that spot.... try doing ANYTHING at 5:48. Spot management was a science that the Navy mastered pretty quickly as a matter of need.

@davidewebb9721 3 года назад

I always greet veterans I see, as I can, when they are sporting a hat or something pointing out their service. I have been rewarded many times in hearing a bit of a story and a thanks. One day at our Walmart an elderly gentleman was near by entering as I was. He had a very worn cap showing his service in WWII on the SARATOGA..Immediately I approached and shook hands, “You served on the SARA ?He smiled so big to have this moment and to be recognized for his service...”Yes ! And we survived Kamikaze attacks !” He said right, away and we talked for a few minutes. The whole while his wife stood off to the side, kind of rolling her eyes, (she knows the story)...Well, he made my day to shake hands with a rare and important sailor who helped avenge Pearl Harbor..And served on such an iconic aircraft carrier in the heat of battle ....SARATOGA...

@ph89787 3 года назад

One thing about Saratoga you missed out on. Was that that Halsey was one of her captains. When he transitioned from Destroyers to Carriers.

@markballard2442 3 года назад

My father served on Sara for most of the war - enlisted 31 December 1941 a few days after Pearl Harbor. Towards the end of the war, he had some form of involvement with British carriers in a training sense, so not sure if it was with the Robin or not - he didn't like his assignment because the food was very basic and the British ship wasn't airconditioned! He left the ship in September 1945 according to the Muster Rolls. There is a very good summary of her history in a 179 page book called The Story of Sara which covers her many voyages across the Pacific.

@corneliuscrewe677 3 года назад

Poor Sister Sara. Damned shame she couldn’t have been preserved. Her and Enterprise deserved better than their fates. Would love to have been able to see her with my own eyes.

@firesail6707 3 года назад

Thank you for the video. My dad said the crew referred to CV-3 as Torpedo Junction and it wasn't such a "happy ship" as was his time on Enterprise.

@gemman1 3 года назад

My Father served onboard the Saratoga at the beginning of the war as a Deck Officer. He was onboard both times she got torpedoed, and then went off to Pensacola to become a Naval Aviator for the rest of the War.

@alexeiwheel4859 3 года назад

Thanks for these reviews Drach. Keep it up!

@ssaraccoii 3 года назад

Drach, thank you for your videos. It gives naval history that needs to be not only remembered, but also understood. Thank you again!

@garycort7997 3 года назад

Reliable quality content. Always appreciated.

@vikkimcdonough6153 2 года назад

I so wish _Saratoga_ had been preserved as a museum ship (along with lots of other historic U.S. aircraft carriers that ended up going to the scrapyard, or, in _Saratoga's_ case, getting nuked).

@ph89787 Год назад

Been reading through Halsey's memoirs and I suspect that one reason he put so much effort into trying to save Enterprise. Was because of Saratoga being sunk in Operation Crossroads.

@Peorhum 3 года назад

Few know she just missed Midway as she reached Pearl harbour just as the battle ended and put out to sea with aircraft replacement for the Enterprise and Hornet.

@aurktman1106 3 года назад

My grandfather sailed on her during the war. Spent most of his time on the bridge but was on the forward port 40mm during battle. Wounded at Iwo Jima.

@mystique4312 2 года назад

thank you for your father serving on my most loved carrier o7

@shaunhedinger6794 3 года назад

Thank you for this video, Drach. The Saratoga was my grandfather's ship during WW2, and I've found that her service is not nearly as widely known as other carriers. Again, thank you

@virgilprice5261 10 месяцев назад

Really enjoyed the video. My father, Marvin "Shorty" Price served on the Sara. Cannot even remember all the stories he told me over the years about his time in the Pacific. Seems to me she was a great ship with a great crew. Thanks for video.

@chriscannon4262 3 года назад

As always Great Video!

@Eboreg2 3 года назад

I'm disappointed you didn't talk about Lexington pulling a Midway on Saratoga during one of those fleet problems.

@flashcar60 3 года назад

Thanks for that presentation. As well as I can piece together, I was conceived when my father was on leave following the last attack on that ship.

@N7-WAR-HOUND Год назад

All those dramatic history shows always neglected the Saratoga. It frustrated me as a kid and now I have all my answers. Thanks!

@agesflow6815 3 года назад

Thank you, Drachinifel.

@rogerwilcoshirley2270 3 года назад

Nice summary , thanks much. Over past year and continuing, i've embarked on an extensive reading campaign on the Admirals and fleets of the Pacific war - very illuminating and so many aspects ( good (USN) vs very bad (IJN) leadership, early emergence of technology ( radar, proximity fuses, the critical importance of signals and communications security and cryptographic vulnerability, mobilization of the industrial base, the courage and energy of the American people, the unsung surge of support by Black Americans to support the war industry, etc, etc.

@briankorbelik2873 10 месяцев назад

Thank you for this video. When I was a lad in the 1960's I began to read books on the US carrier war in the Pacific. Kids are funny, my two all time favorite US carriers are The USS Saratoga CV-3, and the USS Yorktown CV-5.

@nicholas209 3 года назад

I wish you'd included a picture of her wreck in the modern day, specifically the bow. It looks like the mouth of some eldritch god thanks to all the marine life growing around it.

@edwarddunne2758 3 года назад

Ah yes, sending out an aircraft carrier with only a handful of destroyers as an escort. Because that has never ended badly for anyone. Apart from Shinano, Glorious, Courageous and Hermes.

@ph89787 3 года назад

Honestly the reason why she had a small escort. Was that she was detached from Task Group 58.5 (So TF 58’s night carriers that included Enterprise and also the Large Cruiser Alaska). To assist with the Escort carriers on Iwo Jima. Fun fact during this time she was known as ‘Queen of the Jeeps.’

@bkjeong4302 Год назад

To be fair, Glorious would probably have been fine if her officer wasn’t an idiot.

@jamesedward6424 3 года назад

Just want to say your intro sounds is just amazing

@HighlandMacGreggor 3 года назад

My great grandfather served on this vessel. I wish I knew more about his duties, but I do know he would wave/guide aircraft on and off the deck. He also piloted troop landing vessels. I've inherited his uniform, and a book that was given to personnel who served on the ship.

@paultrappiel9943 3 года назад

Thank you for another great video

@beboy12003 3 года назад

This was great.

@timolo0411 3 года назад

always hurts to see these ships go down :(

@goobfilmcast4239 3 года назад

I was an enlisted sailor on the USS Saratoga CV 60 in the early 1980s. She just completed an extended yard period but spent months at the pier at NS Mayport (FL) due to serious boiler issues. Invictus Gallus Gladiator !

@danpower-JP 3 года назад

Last time I was this early, Saratoga was still under construction to be a battlecruiser

@NguyenThanh-gs5zv 3 года назад

Would have been a disaster for USN, you have a long paper-thin tiger that designed for wargame scenario of 1916~

@ottaviobasques 11 месяцев назад

No ship ever deserves such fate, poor Sara.

@matthewschauenburg 3 года назад

Good one Drach.

@Lufbery17 3 года назад

My great-uncle served on Saratoga for the duration of the war as an SBC-3 pilot. Glad to see his ship make an appearance here.

@frankgulla2335 3 года назад

Great Synopsis of a great carrier

@Alex-cw3rz 3 года назад

Brilliant Video

@bigt4331 10 месяцев назад

My Grandpa served on this ship. Radioman. Told me about the kamakaze attacks as well as the other attacks where the Japanese reported her sunk.

@ALPHA17I 3 года назад

Thanks for your guides. =]

@crazywarriorscatfan9061 3 года назад

Beautiful ship

@omgdwayne1565 3 года назад

Love these ships. I am currently working on a 1/350 scale model of the Saratoga as she was in the mid-1930s. I really like that these early carriers had heavy cruiser armament. Building this model is extremely tedious in one respect because all the little airplanes are biplanes. Wow. This might take a year. Worth it though.

@chrisbritt4266 3 года назад

One of the earliest toys I remember asking my parents to get me and I got was a little model of an aircraft carrier it had the 8-inch deck gun so I know it was a Lexington class but I don't recall if they actually put a stripe on the funnel so I don't know which one it was but I've always thought that was a beautiful class of ship

@Laura-wc5xt 3 года назад

another great video......you are the Best.....

@pateese66 3 года назад

great job, again

@longlakeshore 3 года назад

Saratoga is one example of success of Japanese naval doctrine of deploying submarines to torpedo US warships not US merchantmen. They failed to sink her but kept her in dry dock quite a bit.

@williamtell5365 3 года назад

Carrier development is fascinating especially because it was just so damn novel at the time. Simply incredible that just several decades after the first flight, naval aviation had andvanced to this complexity and importance. For all the mistakes, think about how many people did things "right" for this to be possible.

@Jtretta 3 года назад

I came across a video a couple days ago that talked about turning the back end of an Iowa into a flight deck. The video touted the idea as a godsend, I simply laughed and thought about HMS Furious before her full conversion. IMO that plan makes the Tillman star destroyers look like reasonable ships.

@Quentin217 2 года назад

I recommend reviewing the USS Private Thomas. She was built by order of the Aluminum Corporation of America aka ALCOA during the Great Depression. Early in World War Two, the ship was under the US Navy and was used to transport cargo and troops. I came aboard just before Palm Sunday, 1956 with my father and mother. By that time, the ship was being used to transport military personnel and their dependents around the Carribean and up to New York Harbor. We boarded at San Juan, Puerto Rico and disembarked in New York. Later that summer, the Private Thomas was one of the first ships to come to the aid of the Andrea Doria as she sank in the dark, rolling ocean.

@TheGibusDemo 3 года назад

7:36 I like how in this picture the Saratoga in the foreground is sinking and in the background the USS Arkansas (I think) is just sitting there basically fine Edit: It’s not the Arkansas it’s the New York (thank you replies!)

@burnstick1380 3 года назад

did USS Arkansas also get nuked?

@admiraltiberius1989 3 года назад

The Arkansas was flipped end over end during her last nuclear test.

@BogeyTheBear 3 года назад

7:25 Truth be told, most of the ships survived the physical effects of the nuclear airburst in the Able shot. Battleships especially. The real killer was the radiation, because the radiometers set in the deepest portions of even the most heavily armored battleships at Bikini recorded fireball radiation that was hundreds of times needed to kill any crew aboard, if not immediately.

@s.31.l50 3 года назад

Either Arkansas or New York, my eyes can’t see whether it is two midships turrets or just the one.

@Karle94 3 года назад

@@s.31.l50 That's the New York. Arkansas had a much more rebuilt superstructure. Besides, Arkansas went 90 degree up into the air and fell straight to the bottom when the underwater nuke went off. You can see the Arkansas as a black shape in pictures of the blast.

@issacfoster1113 3 года назад

Doko miteruno...? Kocchi dayoo!

@charleshite7707 3 года назад

My favorite carrier of War II . Built 1/350th.trumpeter kit, just to look at.

@Itz_Cliffy 2 года назад

My grandpa was on the Saratoga in the Navy. He’s an aircraft mechanic and still teaches it to this day.

@johnbuchman4854 3 года назад

Dive Saratoga and be sure to give her a glowing review!

@spaceballs999 Год назад

When you are talking about that battle @ 6:55, my grandpa was on the carrier at that time on one of the AA guns as a reloader. During that fight a kamikaze, hit right below his gun, tossing him up on to the deck. (where all the fires were.) He was the only one on his gun to survive. He was telling me that was one of the reasons his leg was always causing him issue. There is also a photo of him and his crew and he was the only one not wearing a helmet... go figure.

@johntrottier1162 3 года назад

The Lex and the Sara were also unique since they used turbo electric, rather than conventional geared turbine propulsion. How about a discussion on the merits and demerits turbo electric propulsion and how they affected the ships they were used on?

@NguyenThanh-gs5zv 3 года назад

It originate from their BC form, both have ship have massive turbo-electric drive provides enough power for high speed, although this came quite a downside due to its weight and size, meaning they have to cut weight somewhere else to keep torpedo belt intact (quite a headache for navy).

@tba113 3 года назад

I think Drach covered it briefly in his video on engines a month or two ago. Not a full treatment, obviously, but he sketched the basics. IIRC, the pros are that you can get a huge amount of torque pretty much instantly, as long as the batteries are charged; the engine is more fuel-efficient (lending itself to longer-range cruises); and the system will still work even if the drive motor compartments are flooded, since batteries and motors don't need air the way diesels and coal- or oil-fired boilers do. The downsides are that it's more complex, meaning a somewhat larger crew and more things to potentially break and strand the ship at sea, possibly in combat; the system takes up more space and weight on the ship (because it needs motors and batteries, in addition to the engine and fuel the ship would carry anyway); and for some strange reason, a lot of people get kind of nervous about being near large banks of high-voltage batteries on a steel ship, floating in salt water, being shot at by jerks with high-caliber cannons.

@NguyenThanh-gs5zv 3 года назад

@@tba113 Another thing that you don't need long direct shafting which make more room (Lexington propeller shaft length is very short compare to other BC). Downside of electric-drive was obviously around cost driven and demand high experience crews, so they're not economical (IJN considering this kind of propulsion on their 8-8 fleets but rejected after realize how difficult to maintain them).

@tba113 3 года назад

@@NguyenThanh-gs5zv Ah - I knew I'd missed a few more factors. Thanks!

@danquigg8311 3 года назад

@@tba113 Batteries???? On Lex & Sara? Can you post a citation for that?

@jakemillar649 3 года назад

DryDock Question: Why were aircraft stored at the front of the deck on carriers? Isn't that where they took off from? Could you do a Wednesday special on carrier flight operations and how they work to explain this in more detail?

@kilianortmann9979 3 года назад

On a straight deck carrier, planes where stored on the front of the deck during recovery operations. Planes came in to land, caught one of the wires in the middle of the ship, where maneuvered around the volleyball net shaped safety barricade, and stored at the bow to clear the deck for the next incoming plane. During take-off operations planes were lined up at the rear of the carrier and took off, row by row, over the bow. That is why the invention of the angled flight deck was such a big deal, finally recovery and take-of could be done in parallel.

@calvingreene90 3 года назад

When launching planes the others were on the aft deck. When recovering planes the others were placed on the forward deck to make room for the landing.

@treyhelms5282 3 года назад

@@kilianortmann9979 Thanks for the info!

@jakemillar649 3 года назад

@@kilianortmann9979 Seems like a lot of work to move that tightly packed bunch of planes to the other end of the ship just to launch a plane, but thanks.

@kilianortmann9979 3 года назад

@@jakemillar649 Maybe, but the priority is to make the launch and recovery cycle as short as humanly possible. During these two phases, the carrier has to sail directly into the wind and can't make course corrections or take evasive action, thus being extremely vulnerable. Storing the planes at the bow is the fastest way to get them down and free the carrier up to maneuver. The exact same thing is done today.

@MegaOS_Ver_NEET 3 года назад

Sister Sara. one of my best CV in kancolle in her armored form. and oh boy. she missed alot of action due to I-6 and Nimu(I-26)...

@ghostarmy1106 3 года назад

And as an azur lane player, she is pretty much the queen of dive bombers (seriously, how manny bombs does somebody want in one airstrike!!!???)

@gergoszabo7168 3 года назад

Begone f-ing weebs both game has nothing do with warships

@mahiru20ten 3 года назад

@@gergoszabo7168 Sadly it has some things to do with warships, so you're totally wrong.

@wayneantoniazzi2706 3 года назад

A WW2 US Navy veteran once told me Saratoga had a reputation in the fleet of being a "Hard luck ship" due to the torpedo and bomb hits and its "Always a bridesmaid, never a bride" status as far as the navy's great Pacific victories were concerned. He said it was why very few tears were shed over Saratoga when she was selected as a Bikini bomb test target.

@nitsu2947 3 года назад

where are you looking ?? I'm over here ~ *[proceeds to clear the screen]*

@Yamato-tp2kf 3 года назад

I have her in Azur Lane, and she's very effective (sometimes, too much...XD)

@MazterHuntR 3 года назад

[proceeds to yeet 203mm HE shells downrange]

@nitsu2947 3 года назад

@@Yamato-tp2kf i also paired her up with Lexy, in wing positions, allows for a more complete barrage while maintaining air superiority

@mahiru20ten 3 года назад

With Helldivers, nonetheless...

@bostonrailfan2427 3 года назад

the same reason for converting the Saratoga saved the USS Constitution from being renamed fully...the oldest commissioned ship in the fleet had been temporarily renamed and with the treaty ending the construction of the successor it got its name back!

@davidfisher12865 Год назад

My uncle Marvin Fisher was a fire control officer on the sara. Nobody mentions the time Sara's group was caught in a typhoon in the Indian ocean, destroyer's flipped, and the cruiser broke her keel. They got her alongside in the storm, and started getting guys off, but, it started going down pulling Sara to list starboard and they had to cut her loose with half the crew still aboard.

@furkankayan612 3 года назад

Saratoga: 2 Submarine torpido attack to sink me pfffff .... How about 2 NUKES

@bostonrailfan2427 3 года назад

it took an uncontrollable lucky shot fire to sink her sister, plus she’s made out of battleship material so had the edge!

@alexsis1778 3 года назад

Most heavily armed carriers ever made. The days when people thought it was a good idea for a carrier to carry a cruiser's worth of guns.

@TrickiVicBB71 3 года назад

Don't forget a dozen kamikazes at Iwo Jima

@monkeyship74401 3 года назад

They actually had to torpedo her after the nukes.

@GrumpyGrobbyGamer 3 года назад

Great video Drach. She was a beautiful old girl, and she could take a punch on the chin and keep rolling.

@back2babylon513 3 года назад

My grandfather served in the engine room of this carrier for a couple of years in the late 1930s. He rejoined the Navy after Pearl Harbor and spent the war maintaining HVAC systems on troop transports.

@SilentGamin102 3 года назад

Saratoga: Converted from a BC to CV Also Saratoga: Now a Idol (azur lane reference) (She loves getting torpedoed oddly)

@mayuri4184 3 года назад

What about her Kantai Collection version?

@SilentGamin102 3 года назад

@@mayuri4184 haven't seen that but I've heard she's neat

@mayuri4184 3 года назад

@@SilentGamin102 She has a nice body and an onee-san personality (albeit not an ara-ara onee-san personality).

@mindwarp42 3 года назад

@@mayuri4184 An onee-san with a Marilyn Monroe-esque dress and a tommy gun for launching her planes. My first event final reward and happy shipfu.

@mayuri4184 3 года назад

@@mindwarp42 She was my first American shipgirl. (I got her through large ship construction.)

@georgeadamortega6927 3 года назад

Any history on the carrier HMS ARK ROYAL of the British fleet ? When I was a wee lady I was able to go on a rare tour of it when docked briefly at Mayport FL for maintenance and refueling/provisions for journey home .

@dutchman7216 3 года назад

Thankyou for making this video. How about a review of Uss Washington BB-56

@mycroft0078 3 года назад

My Uncle Richard was an Armourer/Carpenters Mate on the Sara from early 1942 until she was hit off Iwo Jima. There were lots of crossover jobs, in this instance the idea was that if the flight deck was damaged, you didn't need to arm the planes but you did need someone to fix the flight deck. He took the carpentry skills and used them for the rest of his life. Sara vets were proud of the fact that it took two atomic bombs to sink her...

@6bev 3 года назад

I grew up in a house on Saratoga Ave, on a naval aviation base built as part of the Manhattan Project.

@kentpool7414 3 года назад

This morning I finished reading Fire In The Sky by Eric Bergerud. It answered many questions that I had always wondered about regarding the war in the South Pacific. Thanks for the recommendation. I now feel that I have a very inadequate understanding of what happened in the Indies during WW2. Can you recommend a book/s for that region? Again, many thanks.

@gregsmith1719 3 года назад

Amazing!

@cadengrace5466 3 года назад

Slight problem on the number of air group. She did occasionally dip below 80 aircraft but it was not standard. She was normally running with 85 to 90 onboard with 30 spares in the rafters in 1944. She had 135 planes on board in 1929 for the Fleet Problem of that year. But normally she carried 4 squadrons of 22 planes each, two fight, one torpedo and one bomber from 1932 through 1942. These numbers also need to note the additional 30 spare aircraft.

@captaindouchebag1703 3 года назад

HMAS Australia, the WW2 Heavy Cruiser. She had a rather interesting life. Might be interesting to add that to your list? Either way, keep up the great work!

@ph89787 3 года назад

I had a distant relative that served on her.