USS The Sullivans: The Sinking, The Recovery, and The Future of the Museum Ship 

What they went through was all very preventable. An ounce of prevention is worth more than a pound of cure.

I guess they need to check the morning lines for slack every 4 hours

What did they use for dewatering? Old jp5 converted p250 pumps or commercial pumps? Spent 21 years in Repair division so DC was part of my job everyday while stationed on a ship.

Some great family hstory, thanks!

Wait, they were half of the six not rescued?

@@counterfit5No, they were among the survivors. It took me a bit to understand as well lol

Sorry I did not write that clearly, all my uncles were rescued! I met them all in the late 1960's at a family reunion, but sadly I did not know then about their World War II service and never had a chance to ask them about it...

fabulous history to hear about! bless you and your family!

Essentially wiping out an entire family line in one go. The senseless loss on both sides from both world wars is staggering when you think about it.

And yet they turned it into a berthing barge at Puget Sound Naval Shipyard from 1994-97. I was a Naval Reservist at FISC and we inventoried and restocked all the parts taken from Proteus' stores instead of sending it all to DRMO.

I start aboard the ship tomorrow, I feel very privileged, served aboard 2 carriers 40yrs ago, they smell like the old days

It would be a "Tale of the Territories" that Vice has done for pro wrestling.

On active ships the watertight doors are closed in-port after working hours. It's called Material Condition YOKE. YOKE should be set on all museum ships and I'm surprised that it wasn't on The Sullivans.

she capsized to starboard

The problem there is, the river silts itself up every year! They do navigation channel dredging every 2 years to keep it open for ships. These naval ships are parked in a basin built for them & they can't easily be moved.

would honestly be easier to let the silt build up so they'e buried, probably not good for the structure tho

@@stoutyyyy the same thing would happen anyway. A lake seiche is a violent event. The wind drives up the water level here in a matter of an hour or so & the ships bob up & down, straining the lines & bouncing around. The water level can rise as much as 6 to 8 feet so any silting in would give them MORE of a chance to bottom out.

25% off the top right away :)

Can you touch up HAIDA whilst you're on with it? 🥺👉👈

@@jaisheelal4006 She was dry docked just before she was moved to Hamilton...?

Not likely

When you have the best museum ship imaginable, no need to add anything.

Canada is literally our closest ally, we should have a common market at this point. Germany and France are in a union together, but somehow we aren't despite speaking the same language and having been at peace for 200 years

@@stoutyyyy Canada doesn’t want that. It manipulates its currency to keep it cheaper than the dollar. It gives them a trade advantage. Years ago my company ordered $billions of dollars in aircraft from Bombardier. Part of the reasoning behind the purchase over Saab or ATR boiled down to the fact that the Canadian currency made buying and training pilots in Montreal was a lot cheaper than buying Aircraft under the Euro and developing training centers in the US during the early stages of the delivery < 100 aircraft. Once we had over 100+ sims were set up in the US while still sending a large number of pilots to Canada to train. Same thing keeps Canadian wood cheaper… I’m retired from aviation now… build homes in a follow on career. 90% of the lumber I purchase comes from Canadian mills 2500-3000 miles away. Even with tarries of 18%+, Canadian currency keeps the lumber cheaper. One other reason is…. Canadians are elitist. They see themselves as superior to the US. They would never agree to a common currency or market. I spend a lot of time in Canada, I live 45 min away. I have always felt we were almost identical and that yes a common market, common defense and open boarders would make alot of sense. But the Canadians would give up the advantages of currency manipulation and their politicians use the “US is the enemy” politically to gain votes.

That's very bad for the ships structurally, Ryan has talked about it a few times. Ships are designed to have forces pushing in from the water on all sides.

From other videos here and elsewhere, apparently that causes its own problems.

The previous two comments are accurate. Ship hulls want to pancake when the force of water is removed from all sides. There is a museum ship that’s encased in concrete but that makes the hull rust at a high rate. Maybe the other two folks that commented can refresh my memory but I think that ship is in… Japan?

@@AnAmericanPatriot1555 I believe you are correct, it is one of the older Japanese battleships encased in concrete. I think the alkalinity of the concrete is reacting with the steel hull and causing problems. As Ryan has noted, none of these ships were built to last forever and nothing man-made will beat Father Time.

What if the ships were placed in gravel or sand? That would allow water to drain away while still supporting the hull as if she were in water... could even install drain tile along the sides of the ship.

Because there aren’t many WW2 destroyers because they were all scrapped - just like the British battleships.

You are talking about a proud ship with her own history, not something disposable (except in the eyes of the most ignorant.)

Bro. This is the first ship in the entire United States naval history to be named after more than one person, but several brothers who all died on the same ship when it sank. She's not "just a destroyer," she's a large part of naval history. Besides, as much as I hate to admit it, it would make more sense to preserve destroyers because it would be significantly cheaper in the long run than trying to keep a bunch of carriers and battleships floating.

Clearly you've never been in love. Cheaper to be single and childless too guy

only two (besides the Sullivans) are in the US the other is in Greece

​@guyintenn If you watch some of the previous videos Ryan has stated numerous times that plans are being put into place to finally put USS New Jersey into dry dock. I'd assume they're saving up some sort of funding for this to happen?

He said in this video they're somewhere short of about a million bucks. I *think* he said $700-800k

It's video documentation like that that makes the docking of Battleship Texas so fascinating to me.

Sleeve oil has nothing to do with it. The amount of fuel in a tank is a critical part of ship stability data and is not casually misrepresented for the chief's comfort. Tank soundings are logged and the contents are what is actually in the tanks. The fact that there was a considerable amount of fuel remaining onboard was probably for stability. When a tank is pumped "dry" it is "stripped" at a low rate until the pump can no longer maintain suction. Over time the fuel remaining on the tank walls and other structure will drain down by gravity. If the fuel was required to be left for stability it was done with the assumption that the tank manholes would not be left open or loosely placed as shown in several videos instead of being secured. This is another example of serious neglect and very poor ship husbandry.

@@oldtugs Even a tank pumped to loss of suction will have an inch or two residual plus any list or fore-aft angle would uncover the suction foot prematurely.

No wonder it sank. That band was effing awful.

​@@bebo4374Im sorry, but that is so far from correct. You may not like that type of music, but saying that band was awful is innacurate.

​@@GregoryVeizadesIt's hip to be square and some people Want A New Drug !😊

To quote the late Johnny Carson, “I did not know that.”

​@@bebo4374ya like Huey Lewis and the news?

That's one of the principles of HNSA.

Hopefully they will curb any damage that will become apparent in the next several decades. I’m referring to situations like the Texas that flooded parts of the ship in WW II to gain distance on the guns.

It would have been great to have a museum carrier that is still in it's WW2 configuration with a straight flight deck

Same with Franklin. Unfortunately, due to their like-new condition after being completely restored, they were constantly being witheld from being used. They were always saving them for something better. Then something better never came and they were just too old to be used for anything, regardless of condition.

@@HoldenOversoul imo the "like-new condition" would be a reason to keep her longer and upgrade her and retire another, older ship

iirc they show that movie on loop in the visitor center

Speaking of heat death why don’t we fire up the Sullivans boilers and blast our way into Canada with 5 inch salvos and force the Canucks to fix the hull.

Not the only one. U.S.S. Kidd is in Baton Rouge, and she is in great shape.

Cassin young in Boston too

You do realize 150 thousand dollars back then is not the same in today's money?

Removing the screws is standard for museums. Dissimilar metal corrosion is a big concern. What fire marshall rules are set are dependent on the local requirements and are far from universal. More so, whether or not the screws are attached wouldn't make it any more of a building, its still floating but not moving.

Me too. I only live a 15-minute walk away! It would have been fun to have a few beers and hear some of your stories!

That's why there was a 60 hour tug.

Don’t tell’er Dad.

Giggity

Glitzy

Ryan is best in class. He's a walking encloypidia on the New Jersey. I'm a Nam army Vet and have watched ten times more U Tube vidios on just interesting vidios by Ryan than Army or Viet Nam vidios.

The power went out during this event, hopefully they are addressing this with some cheap UPS additions. They lost all communications with the ship. They lost the pumps that were keeping it afloat during that event as well.

Yes, clearly they don't give a shit 🙄

@@JoshuaTootell As the dude was talking about the concrete plug that seals the giant hole in his ships bottom he was like "we check it daily... actually we check it once a week..." How often would you check a makeshift concrete plug in your ship, the only thing preventing you from sinking again, with still no flooding alarm?

she's 81 years old no way

Is this not a channel full of videos of Ryan talking about ship preservation?

@@BattleshipNewJersey it is, but Ryan should have a personal channel is what I mean. a channel of his own where he goes around and nerds out on ships. I'm not hating. I'm more interested in the videos about New Jersey than other ships, though the videos on other ships are cool. you would think that videos coming from the Battleship New Jersey youtube channel would be about the new jersey,not the Sullivans or other ships.