Utah city tells families to get out of their new homes 

I hope edge is willing to buy the house back.

@@Ember3221 they gave him the choice of selling it back or fixing it. He made the wrong choice the first time. Maybe they give him another chance.

The company won't buy it back for the same price they sold it to them for either.

It just goes to show you that the laws are in place not to protect the consumer

@@modenasolone Another person made a comment that they're Offering 2 buy it back at market value

no sh it.ummm my first thought was why would i have something bad to say

Kind of like the pharmaceutical companies and their super safe and effective vaccines.

ANY non-disparagment clause should be legally unenforceable as it directly impacts your free speech rights as guaranteed by the 1st Amendment.. Go to court and have it removed from the contract, and NO you should have run away as fast as you could upon first reading it.

any company thats finds it necessary to include in a non-disparagement clause needs to go out of business.

@Brian here is the thing, going by the definition of "disparaging", nothing stops them from pointing out the factual negative information. Considering words have meanings and courts get granular with that, most lawyers would easily be able to show that negative true statements are not protected by that.

It seems an infringement of the First Amendment right. Disparagement that is FALSE would be slander or libel anyway, under separate laws. Disparagement that is TRUE is not a violation of law.

@@davidb2206 The First Amendment only bans GOVERNMENT restrictions on speech, not private ones.

@@davidb2206 No, but if you SIGN AWAY your rights, it would be a violation of contract law.

Although I haven't seen the contract, It is safe to assume the non-disparagement clause was part of the warranty. IE, they guarantee the warranty on the home and will even buy it back from you, but you can't run out afterwards and destroy the rest of their business bc of one issue or bad contractor they may have used. It's pretty easy to point fingers at the builder here, but the city inspectors are involved here too... both houses should probably be removed if they cannot shore the foundation properly.

@@micahlacombe2168 I see what you're saying, and I think you're right about there being more than one responsible party here. I still think, though, that as long as any critical statements about a company are truthful, they shouldn't be allowed to be stifled. Just one or two criticisms wouldn't be enough to "destroy the rest of their business." That would only happen if there were numerous criticisms, in which case the company probably should go out of business.

Aaah. That's why they have a non-disparagement clause. They must have been getting lots of valid trash talk from their earlier customers.

I just read that as Clint Eastwood.

Sure, but this is not necessarily a House problem but a Massive Geo-Technical Blunder. The problem lies with Soils Engineering and Grading contractors etc.

Yup. Edge homes is the laughing stock of builders

@@colton5bucks edge homes: building by the EDGE of a cliff.

They paid $900k for the view not the home. They got what they paid for. I guarantee the view was hyped up during the sales process.

Probably for the view!

It was an offer to "sell it back" which isn't the same as getting your money back. They would lose some money, which doesn't sound so bad at all when faced with a total loss. I agree, I'd get out as fast as possible.

Never heard of capital gains tax? Where I am they would be forfeiting 50% of the money they got back

@@janeblogs324 No because with a 1031 exchange, the capital gains would be deferred and they could go buy a better house.

@@janeblogs324 Crazy! What a terrible predicament.

You’re right. He really needs to take the money and run. And quickly in case the company goes bankrupt. He’s really hung up on this idea of the fact that this was their “forever home.” It’s sad, but he’s got to look at it like a bad relationship. He thought she was “the one,” but she’s not. It’s time to let her go and move on.

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You can't make this stuff up.

Living on the Edge Homes

Or over the hill

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The guy who said that the home would be a "forever home" is either ignorant or liar. Him and his wife will eventually be forced to move when they can no longer drive due to aging and the local pharmacy & grocer is a 15 minute drive. At that point it's better to live in apartment than it is to live in a assisted living center.

Pure madness 😂😂😂

Soil conditions are uncertain sometimes

@@jmd1743 So in your world elderly people don't live by themselves, delivery services don't exist, and in home caretakers don't exist. Got it.

Someone most likely knew that this area would be ripe for slumping! You gotta know what's down there....from an expert or many opinions. Sometimes weather's overload of water can make a unforeseen problem!

Yes, that's a big red flag.

Right that's why I included a co write that explains my interests

Doesn’t the fact that the house and property are not accessible mean that the company did not fully satisfy their end of the agreement.

If it's the truth it's not disparaging.

Yup

A buyer talking to some grade eight kid in the area would find that out. But they never think to ask.

Still, who's house is it, the city's or the homeowners....they should still be able to live in it while it get's fixed.

@@adrian_sanchez I would say the land there is not suitable for building development full stop.

@@jonathanlake6053 it doesn’t matter, it’s theirs. It shouldn’t be up to them, full stop

yeah but if they get sued sense it is the city that's your tax money there taking not the company's.

Yep, at some point ALL those houses are going to be at the bottom of the hills!

Soil liquefaction is a thing when subjected to vibration. 50 foot deep friction piles probably would not be sufficient.

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@@supertruckertom That's a pretty big issue for ships transporting things like that too, apparently. I had no idea until I saw a video about how it sinks them.

It’s these builders, such corruption right now. I live near Sandpoint, Idaho , pay attention to the name , Sandpoint, it’s on sand and a lot on flood plains. People from California are moving out here in droves and will buy anything. I heard they sold condos on the shore of Lake Pend O’Reille, sight unseen. We’ve had high water and they flooded. Some idiots from Californians purchased a house off of the main highway and cleared away all of the trees and foliage. The whole hill collapsed onto the highway below creating major problems because the plants roots held the Sandy soil together . They’re lucky because the county was going to charge them thousands for all of the damages. I hope these people have some legal recourse. People need to read everything they sign and for heavens sakes, check out the property they’re building your home on .

ya.

Kiss my a**, lol

Utards.

Gullible fools are everywhere

Our landlord of 7 years changed management companies. They had a clause like this and refused to remove/amend it. We moved. No way! That tramples on the first amendment.

lol freedom of speech makes this clause illegal.

@@AskAgainL8ter The thing is that you can sign a contract to waive your rights, and sadly, it's enforceable in most cases. It's all the more reason to get an attorney and go through the contact carefully.

@@AskAgainL8ter sounds unconstitutional enuf to win a supreme court battle

@@guysumpthin2974 Not our current Supreme Court.

Rage wouldn't help you and the increased blood pressure would likely shorten your life. What does it profiteth a man?

It's even worse here in Florida. The massive invasion and flooding in of people from the North has completely destroyed this State. They will pay any amount to live here with their houses inches apart just like they had back home. They have lined all of our rivers, water ways and lakes with houses inches apart just like where they came from. They have mowed down forests and woodlands for housing complexes and apartments. I watched them turn farm lands into housing complexes. These people will destroy everything in their path to get what they want at any price. They have completely destroyed all of their Cities and towns from up North now they are doing the same here. It's the saddest thing I have ever seen. They truly don't care how over crowed they make a place as long as they get what they came for.

Would you be in a rage if the house was 300k and you were a working stiff? It's all relative pal.

@@arlissyoung8899f you really feel that way, then you need to vote for people who will change the building and land policies. If it were not for them, none of those homes would ever be built. Blame the correct people for something you do not like and then take actions to work on it 💁‍♀️

Same here in arizona I call then toothpicks houses..

Best advice ever, including a new car, all junk and problems!!!

Not take out chickenn!

i live in Phoenix & i see sooo many new developments/apartments going up & I can’t help but wonder how many of them are structurally sound?….

@@musiclover6842 Popeye's

I'm grateful for having to build my own house. -didn't qualify for a mortgage in 2019

I remember one time a house in San Francisco slid off of a hill. A burst water pipe had eaten away at the soil until finally the house slid and roll a bit down a hill. Of course the homeowner sued the city and the city ended up paying for the destroyed house.

A surveyor only ascertains where the property lines are. What you mean is a site engineer or soil testing to ascertain that the ground is stable and won't slide or expand or flood or the like.

​​@@rudra62Yeah it would be the geotechnical engineer. But the main point is 100% right... you can find someone who will do and say what you want them to. Its actually pretty easy to find, because you're the one paying for their report. If they say the right things you'll hire them for the next job, and they know it.

@@the.seagull.35 That's why you hire your OWN inspectors and you pay them for the report. You make the offer on the house subject to the satisfactory report(s).

@@rudra62 Yeah you can definitely do that if you've got $10k to spare

@@the.seagull.35 Yes. If you don't have an extra $300K to spare, how are you buying a house? Even with 10% down, you need $30K. If you're spending that kind of money, spending 3% more to get it inspected so it doesn't fall apart right away is worth it. Also, I spent several HUNDRED, not thousands of dollars having my home inspected before I bought it a dozen years ago. Inflation hasn't hit THAT hard.

You'd be surprised how many buyers don't have proper inspections done or look at a home's history.

Someone in the mayor office got some kick back money and got caught before they could get out of office. (Mayor)?

And the builder probably accuses the city. If so, they're both right.

Thing is, many jurisdictions have so many CYA documents, it usually takes liability off of inspections dept. If there were civil engineers involved, the builder will point the finger at them.

Pas the buck at its best welcome to bureaucrat corrupt town govt americuh

Do you really think city inspectors never get lied to and tricked by builders?

Literally, crazy how people can pay that much for these homes stacked up next to each other like that at least have some land or something with that money

The population explosion in Utah produced an absolutely insane market. Thousands over asking price with inspections waived for cramped subdivision homes or old homes with just some cosmetic adjustments has been totally normal.

Lots of people are running away from Democrat states and cities.

@@umeng2002 Yet they still vote Democrat wherever they end up 🙄

City people. It's a way of thinking. I'm in an area where the minimum lot size is something like an acre, the average lot size here is 5 acres, but to someone who wants a view and to live in town, they don't have a lot of options.

No first they are in shock. They haven't had time to process what happened. They want to see if it can be fixed. They need to lawyer up come up with a plan. That takes time. I think homeowner is being stubborn right now but my friends built their dream home and the town put up wind turbines nearby and they got wind turbine syndrome and his wife nearly died so they were forced to sell and the town treated them terribly. Eventually a judge ruled the turbines were never sited with zoning so they ordered them turned off permanently took ten years. They moved to the next town over redid a fixer upper and we're a lot happier.

I think their 'willingness' to keep the home ties back into the non-disparagement agreement, which that agreement is absolutely insane in and of itself for a home builder...

My 70 year old cabin definitely has issues but I knew that going in and as it is old, I am not afraid to investigate/modify to suit my needs. Also it is amazing to see how tight the growth rings were back then vs now, probably 4x as many on a stick of lumber.

@@randomvideosn0where The growth rings being tight could well mean that it's a different kind of tree. Most wood used for construction today is pine because it's fast-growing. 70 years ago, they might have used something else, depending on what is common near that cabin, and what was available. Oak is common for building in some areas. In a home build as "emergency housing" during WW2 in south Texas, owned by my brother, we discovered much of it was built from CYPRESS!

@@randomvideosn0where That's a factor I hadn't considered in why the quality of homes is lower. The trees being used are of a lower quality, fast growing lumber not denser old growth lumber.

@@rudra62 That is a thought but the wall studs I have cut were definitely pine. I am using a fair amount of Red Oak because that is the majority of (usable) trees on my property and I love the look.

We have a 2 story brick house with a limestone foundation that was built in 1849. It passed the regular home inspection and the VA inspection. The VA inspector said it was one of the most solid foundations he ever seen in a home that's over 100 years old. This house is more solid than most of the newer homes we looked at. We were surprised to find out that it's only 12 years younger that the oldest house in Iowa.

And watch some fatcat lawer walk away with most of their money.

Kinda like a pre-nup.

That's silly. Not necessarily true. When I'm talking to business owners about the possibility of me acquiring their business we sign NDA's. That's a very confidential conversation that you do not want discussed outside of the meeting with the parties involved. I've signed literally hundreds of non disclosure agreements. It is certainly a case by case situation.

🎵 The rains came down and the floods came up....

A foolish man builds his house upon the sand. Matthew 7:28

It's likely he's from the west coast.

The moment they said sand, that’s exactly what I thought of lol

@@lynn7392 TRUE BUT IT IS UTAH!!!!!! WHAT DOES THE BOOK OF MOROM SAY???

We have an 1895 Victorian Gothic home (with a turret - lol). Basement beams are massive, and exterior walls are triple brick construction. Two (now defunct) chimneys were actually integral supports for the center of the house. We removed chimneys only above the roof line. Funny story: we had to replace some plank flooring in an upstairs bedroom and uncovered multiple old gas lines used for gas lighting. Love the old place: nothing is exactly square or on center, and it's a bear hanging pictures in plaster over brick, but the house is rock solid. And we laughingly refer to the basement with its rooms and runs as the dungeon - ha!

I live in southern Colorado, and we do not have termites except for in very rare cases. It is very dry out here, and in places that are dry there tends to no be termites either in many instances. The humid places seem to have the most trouble.

You're talking about your 1890s farmhouse on flat land and no termites. This video was about a new construction house and foundation issues. Boy you really are a special kind of dumb, aren't you.

Hundreds of thousands of houses were built in the UK from about 1800 to1920, most are still standing strong.

Poor termites. Lol. I hear you, my grandmother lives in the house she grew up in. And even theough her dad, was the second owner in 1940 something, that house which was built in 1912 is still standing strong!

Because many of these city inspectors are just someone who took a crash course in basic inspection. I have seen inspectors learn more from the legitimate tradesmen working on job sites than they did with the knowledge they brought to the job.

My contractor builds Phius ultra energy efficient homes. They do not meet international code regs and the building I Spector is like duh derp you need more home heating or whatever. Often they were in the job soibg like an ancient doctor they have zero understanding of modern building for energy efficiency in fact the town asked my friend for a master class to teach the inspectors at least entry level understanding. When building inspectors are from 1960s 1970s constuction they just are looking for things dny modern builder knows how to address easily the big stuff like this is over their job competency.

Still, who's house is it, the city's or the homeowners....they should still be able to live in it while it get's fixed.

@@wbay3848 🤡

It's called fast tracking, ultimately to save time and money. How'd that work out ???

Yes, but who knows how the home was built? Could have been built on unstable soil placed as fill.

Soil samples were done in my neighborhood and the builder did the recommended dirt work on the first house and did nothing on the 44 other houses in the neighborhood and the inspector has since passed away and the builder is in the wind, the state office that has the licence information can't find the insurance policy number, so no one is being held accountable.

If you're a fool, a fool and their $$ are soon parted.

This.

Why would a mortgage company finance this without a full building and land registry survey?

​@@jonathanlake6053Well, why would you give a 500k mortgage to a checkout girl working at Home Depot in 2008...?? Take a guess. We'll wait. A: $$$

Can you say bribery and corruption? Sell it back to Edge, and sue the surveyors, city planners, and Edge for all expenses incurred in the move (hotel bills, etc), and include all legal fees.

@@tombarclay7108 Yep

Isn't there a huge LDS TEMPLE in Draper? I wonder if there are structural issues?

@@michaelciccone2194 Well, there are certainly integrity issues

@@tombarclay7108 just go ahead and sue the country. Everyone is corrupt.

If the contract was a form contract, and the picture in the article suggests that it is, the clause is unlawful. See 15 USC §45b, the Consumer Review Fairness Act.

They will not get all their money back . And the loss could be very costly . They could easily be looking at a 100K loss.

The problem is a house is the most expensive thing most people will ever buy. The stress, the time taken to move in and move out and find a new place, lose money. That, in my opinion is the problem

Buy it back at what price?

@@rayRay-pw6gz as opposed to a 900k loss(house they can never live in). Sometimes you have to cut your losses

@@radolfkalis4041 yes , I do agree . Then they have to find a new place and start over. They also have to hire an attorney, which will add to the cost and stress . What I was trying to convey was all the suffering they are going to go thru. And the battle will be in years.

A $900k home is not working class. He would likely be legally considered a Qualified Investor. That is someone smart enough and wealthy enough that they can buy risky securities and have no recourse if they lose money.

Its probably nonenforceable / void as contrary to public policy, unless the judge is part of "the cult".

When most things were still built with PRIDE.

@@henrymorgan3982 just depends on the person, pride or profit

How lucky. I envy you. I'll never have the funds to have someone build a home that isn't wood between walls where you hear every single thing through the walls/floor. We're renting a house in Mesa that was built in the 90s and Christ is it horrible in that noise regard...

@@zombieluka sounds like the same plague across NA, no affordable housing built in year; just popcorn ceilings or "luxury" apartments. It's a shame builders are always using the most affordable building solutions, but selling at highest profits possible. And we wonder why theres a housing crisis every 5 years.

Then they named a city in Phoenix after him 😃

Yeah, like the builder will but it back. I’m sure on this one the loans aren’t backed by the same company.

Builder isn’t even offering the original price because home prices have dropped significantly since last year so these people would be taking huge losses

@@Twitchguy housing is an investment. No guarantees.

@@MrMassee true but there’s laws that ensure you’re investment is legal otherwise it’s just scamming people which is likely happened to these people. Sold land and a house that appear to be not what was promised. No reason too loose everything when someone breaks the law or is negligent. Does that mean they won’t take a loss no but the company who sold them bad land /did shotty work shouldn’t be allowed to profit either by buying it back cheap only a year later when their company/ work is also being investigated now either

In the past 5 years, NEVER buy a newly built home. No more quality craftsmen left, they all retired and now it's 20 and 30 somethings that simply don't care.

Very no way these are quality homes when they are built in 2 days

Live in a home that I have to pay flood insurance for. But it’s been here for almost 100 yrs with 2ft hip walls. It ain’t going nowhere unless there’s a hurricane or earthquake that swallows it up.

You are wise. I'd never buy a new home. And I would especially never buy a home on the edge of an elevation with a view.

Some people find it safer. Like if the house got broken into with someone home. Or if someone was hurt and no one but neighbors to help. Like for instance you work on your car and the jack started slipping and you didnt die yet but your yelling and are stuck and will probably suffacate in a few min. You can live alone but no one can help you.

@@SomeRandomGuy369 Yep. Neighbors can be a help during an emergency and keeping an eye on other houses. I had friend who bought some land with acreage. He let the farmer next door work part of his property. To give it the appearance that someone is around much of the time. Otherwise a house standing alone can become a target for robbers.

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You would be a great consultant for these fiascos.

In Oregon where I live, they dig until they find granite or hard rock. My parents house took two extra months to construct because they kept digging and digging through soft soil about 15ft deep and found it. That house has 15ft concrete foundations. We learned later that anything else built on the property eventually sagged into the ground like fence lines but the house is solid after 15+ years.

What's really interesting is if you look at this particular location on Google Earth, there's a map pointer nearby with a listing for the home developer. You'll never guess who it is.

I’m stunned they don’t do soil mitigation out there!

Please note, Levittown was done extremely fast, too. I think the walls were built off-site...? Much smaller houses, too.

You'll never sew the $$ again. Ask any RE lawyer.

I doubt the builders wanted to spend the money to get the foundations properly engineered and just did some cookie cutter diagram to all the homes which the city approved.

Or you`re having a bad hair day

Or you just want to be careful with your wording so you don't say something that might be misunderstood. That's how I am. I'd rather thoughtfully construct an email rather than speak in person where I might stumble over my words, if it's something important.

From what I see only one person in that town was willing to go on camera.

No, it can also mean that you don't want to be edited into saying something that you didn't actually say.

Congress does that.

His 'forever home' maybe just fall down on him and forever is shorter than he thought.

Sink jokes also huge problem in Florida built on limestone one man was asleep his bedroom literally fell into earth swallowed up body unrecoverable. Awful.

Sink jokes sorry my spell check hates me

Sink holes

@@WindTurbineSyndrome Thats the nature of FL, having a giant aquifer underneath the state. Plenty of fresh clean water though! Nestle thinks its entitled to the water for free and then can sell it at a profit, but thats a different story all together lol....

Right man's got ripped off looks like a 200k home at most

@@brandon6541 Utah=New San Francisco

It’s a million dollar view, I swear!

The mold couldn’t be cleaned?

@@musiclover6842 it could

@@matthewellison581 unless it's been left unchecked for any length of time...mold buildup can in fact cause serious health issues

@@clairelivefreeordie2551 it can of course but it can also be removed

@@clairelivefreeordie2551 I've done it. I'm a general contractor

Yes. The city is supposed to test the soil after compaction.

hmmm what was you doing with his older brother it wasn't just skying :o

@@Bewefau Didn’t take your morn drugs? Too many or too much social media?

Homes at the base of big Cottonwood Canyon? What could go wrong😮

Well cape cod is a sand peninsula many homes built here. The ocean coastal erosion is biggest oroblem

That isn't a NDA.

NDAs serve a purpose when it protects a companies business processes or product secrets. Non disparagement clauses are not NDAs and stifle competition by shielding companies from "bad press" due their own bad actions or dealings. That is an area where limited legislation at the state or federal level could make some sense.

Some of their brothers and family members are IN the state legislature. It works well, just like in the third world.

Sadly quality is rare nowadays esp in these new built homes they love rushing them

Edge homes …the builder

It’s a dirty grimy world. Human beings are sick.

@@Starfish2145 developer and builders are 2 completely different things. Sometimes the builder's is also the developer in few circumstances. Developer almost never got involved in the house building,

The homes were still under warranty so that at least covers homeowner up to a point with this uninhabitable issue. He can take a buyout and move on or he can sue.

@@Honkahonky My subdivision has homes built by 3 builders other than the developer. A developer often sells-off lots when wanting to start building somewhere else.

I can’t even believe they are legal!

Getting married does the same without the view.

What made you hate UT?

@@yeahgirl11 the Mormons