She was the only one V showed mercy to, because she was the only one to admit what she did was inhumane and that she had to pay for it. So V made sure she wouldn't suffer.
I think this scene perfectly points out how evil V actually is, as Evie points out later in the film. Delia had immense regret for her past actions. She was no threat to V's plan and it was clear he had no real malice towards her. He killed her because he 'had' to. Evie put it best, he saw the whole thing as some sort of equation that needed to be balanced. It was cold, heartless and monstrous. And V only did it because, in his deranged mind, he thought it was 'needed'. "What was done to me was monstrous!" "And they created a monster."
@@luminozero i think you just hate men. V was the person The world needed as its own tyrannical government treated its citizens as fodder and test subjects. If you dont see that then...you're lost.
@@luminozero Well, that's the essence of Vengeance. It's not about what will be done or may be done, but what has been done. Take Adolf Eichmann, for example. He was living quietly in hiding in South America and was not a threat to anyone anymore, least of all to the state of Israel. Yet Israel chose to kidnap and execute him.
Anyone who thinks V is blind : he is not . She meant figuratively that she felt his gaze upon her as in he was thinking about her with fury as he yelled . This is basically the result of her guilt that she suppressed, she knew that she deserved the vengeance of this man . V can read books , proof that he can see .
...and watch movies, and throw knives and(spoiler to who have not seen said film) annihilate an entire elite kill team before they could re-load, including Mr Creedy with his bare hands.
@@nguyntn9026 Might be that they didn't have it ON RECORD, since his previous identity was "killed" as soon as he became a test subject. He ceased to exist the moment he was imprisoned, and he kept it that way once he escaped. It also doesn't hurt that he no fingertips or distinguishing features since most of his body is burnt. He is a ghost, and ghosts can't be traced.
I've often wondered about this, because she mentions that her subject developed "basic kinesthesia", as in proprioception via that which are not typically considered sensory organs. He could theoretically read by running his fingers across the pages, detecting the slightest raise or smoothness of the printed ink, and perhaps he's not so much watching television as listening to it, I'm not sure. I think the 'blind' argument actually goes some way *toward* the belief that he could singlehandedly defeat Creedy's whole elite squad - if he doesn't need to use his eyes to see, and has an innate awareness of his surroundings at all times via alternative senses, perhaps he *would* be able to react quicker, to predict their movements, and to throw knives in directions he's not even looking. Either way, what a fucking badass V is!
"Is it meaningless to apologies?" "Never" The way Hugo Weaving acted out that line on top off his breath. Like a form of suprise and relief. Masterfully performed in my opinion. It was like a suprise that she would not know it is never to late to apologies and almost a pity towards her, like she was living a life where apologizing is a weakness. Or maybe i am ready to much in to these things againg lmao...
@@allsmilesguy the clarity with which the artist delivers the message he wants you tovtake/infer is a measure of the quality of the art. Poor artists would have you believe otherwise, like rapists would have you believe there is no objective morality.
SO MANY people will one day stand before God and say "I had good intentions." But, when does good intentions turn into an excuse for knowingly committing immoral acts. Are there such things as good intentions without a good outcome? Can a wild tree bring forth good fruit? No.
@@ephemispriest8069 Nah, some people not doing their jobs would mean jackshit in a world where people don't justify shitty actions and passively watching them happen on the pretext that it's "just their job"
And the shot of him standing in the fire and those words on backround has to be the one of the most frightening, chilling and cold shot in film industry
@@sinutnaprezidenta5457 we see how he was before the fire its the white bald man in the line after valerie and when the truck comes in larkhill we see a shirtless white bald man thats v
"I've not come for what you hoped to do. I come for what you did." This movie is like a fine wine. It just keeps getting better and more relevant with age.
'Is it meaningless to apologize?' 'Never.' That delivery.... As someone who has felt wronged most of his life, and kicked around by petty tyrants of tiny fiefdoms... that genuine heartfelt and sincere moment. It would never undo what has been done, but it would be validation that I'm not insane. So... damned beautiful of a moment. And that is why V showed her a mercy by making sure hers was a gentle passing and that she could come to terms with what has happened and was about to happen unalone. A crucial difference between 'too late' and 'meaningless' here. Yes it would have been too late to apologize since what was set in motion could not be stopped, but there was so much meaning in those two words. 'I'm sorry.'
I think it’s deeper than this he killed her that way by needle cause she did experiments on him by needle you know the saying live by the sword die by the sword? Her apologizing just further proves what she was saying as trying to make a difference and showing she still has a humanity sense so to speak where as Mr Creedy was the total opposite even with death staring him down he still thought he could come out on top instead of apologizing.
@@stonezman2743 V knew Creedy was going to fight for every second. V knees that was a fight that he would win but at great cost. He did it anyway, cause if your going to die, then go down fighting
Dr Surridge spent most of her life regretting her actions during Sutler's rise to power. She was lied to the whole time. She faced her death with courage unlike the other members of Norsefire. They died violently and in fear. Delia passed peacefully. Apologizing to V is what gave her that peace.
This is mostly correct. V knew she was deeply remorseful, but she didn't apologize to him until after he had already poisoned her. At least in the movie, anyway.
Didn't read the book, but it should be something like: a man born in fire that is his mother, one that will bring the same fire upon the world that was never his home.
Typical defense mechanism. “Why can’t they see all the good reasons I’m doing what I’m doing? There must be something g wrong with them. They’re to blame, they’re the problem, not me.” Them being broken down reminded her that what she was doing was wrong, so she got angry to push away the doubt and the guilt.
I like that she's the only of V's victims where he gives them a painless merciful death. Yes she did horrible things but she didnt take pleasure out of it or do it with malicious intent
She not only accepts her end, but welcomes it. She truly repented and V showed her some degree of mercy. At 00:04 V appears like an Angel of Death in the background briefly. What is really something is the moment she awoke was the moment she likely felt the injection, but wasn’t conscious.
thats v's burned face v in order to escape from larkhill caused a fire where he started by his cell v was inside and he got totally burned but who led him in that act government sutler commander prothero and dr surridge
Yeah, it's one thing to execute and take out monsters who're guilty. But here, it's evident that monster he came to kill died ages ago and was replaced by one driven to help people.
We don't necessarily have to be, though -- that's the whole theme of this movie. Partly as a result of the message he received from Valerie which gave him a reason for hope, V eventually found a way to turn the tables on his captors. When V imprisoned and tortured Evey in much the same way he had been imprisoned and tortured and then gave her the same message Valerie had given him, he enabled her to find the courage to make the choice not to give up and tell her "captors" what they wanted even though she had reason to believe it would mean her death. In some ways, "V For Vendetta" is an "Anti-1984" in the sense that V and Evey (and eventually Finch) all make the choice to refuse to allow Norsefire to control them. V and Evey are both aware that Norsefire can potentially rob them of their liberty and their lives but they're not willing to let them rob them of themselves as Winston Smith eventually lets Big Brother do in "1984".
How was V physically strong in the scene where he yelled/escaped when the other prisoners were portrayed as frail? Did he start as a bodybuilder and shrink from there?!
They were working on ways to make people immune to biological weapons - mostly by infecting or poisoning people and seeing how they died. They partially succeeded with the man in room 5, it sounds like they made his cells regenerate faster, destroying his past memories but making him faster, stronger, more physically able and probably immune/resistant to disease and nerve gas. He also seems to suffer a lot less pain or shock than normal people, which may be the treatment or a side effect of surviving his terrible burns
Delia Surridge: [Curtains are drawn back, allowing moonlight to come in] It's you, isn't it? You've come to kill me? V: Yes. Delia Surridge: Thank God. Delia Surridge: After what happened. After what they did. I thought about killing myself. I knew that one day you'd come for me. I didn't know what they were going to do. I swear to you. Read my journal. V: What they did was only possible because of you. Delia Surridge: Oppenheimer was able to change more than a course of a war. It changed the entire course of human history. Is it wrong to hold on to that kind of hope? V: I've not come for what you've hoped to do. I've come for what you did. Delia Surridge: It's funny. I was given one of your roses today. I wasn't sure you were the terrorist until I saw it. What a strange coincidence that I should be given one today. V: There are no coincidences, Delia. Only the illusion of coincidences. [Holds up a rose] V: I have another rose and this one is for you. Delia Surridge: [Delia accepts and surveys the rose] You're going to kill me now? V: [Holds up a syringe] I killed you ten minutes ago... while you slept. Delia Surridge: Is there any pain? V: No. Delia Surridge: Thank you. Is it meaningless to apologize? V: [voice goes soft] Never... Delia Surridge: I'm so sorry. [Delia slowly slumps backwards, into her pillow]
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@kassandra odessa Possibly ... ... or possibly not ... V is depicted as having way above average intelligence. He, of all people would understand that sometimes, scientists, in pursuit of knowledge, sometimes lose their humanity along the way, some so completely (cf. Josef Mengele), that you have to force yourself to remember he was just as human as you or I, but with others (cf. J. Robert Oppenheimer) hadn't at all; in his case, what humanity he had turned into doubt. A little known aspect of getting a PhD in his day, required the candidate to learn either Ancient Greek, or Latin (sometimes both), especially in the STEM fields, and one or two other languages. Oppenheimer learnt Sanskrit, and, painstakingly, made his own translation of the Shrimad Bhagavad Gita. It was from his work on that translation, that led him to the immortal quote of "Now I have become Death, Destroyer of Worlds", since that quote chimed in with how he felt: the nuclear genie was out of the bottle, and there was no-way going back. Where he alive today, he would be shocked at the current scale of nuclear proliferation, but not that surprised; he may even felt a sense of inevitability ... When he made the interview, during which he made that quote, I can't tell if it was the lighting, the camera, or the media stock used, but you could tell he aged before his years; a weary, exhausted, and haggered old man, possibly bedeviled by the nightmare of what he felt he personally unleashed ... Delia may have been the same way, so caught up in her work, she lost most of her humanity, except for that bit of doubt that, much like a grain of sand in a oyster can lead it to create a pearl, grew to wishing she never succeeded at all. Remourse and regret can easily chew away at a person, but feeling the weight of that meant, deep within, she hadn't lost all of her humanity ... Likely, when she heard of the other deaths, she knew what actually had happened, was happening, and whom would eventually visit her; it was just going to be a matter of time. It was for those reasons, and others, that V gave her the gentle death which she didn't think she deserved, but was given via V's mercy. Despite everything she may have tried to undo, rather like Oppenheimer in his later years, it was too late: the genie was let loose. But even despite that, it was her remourse and regret, that perhaps only V truly understood, which led her death being more of dieing in her sleep, than the agony of consciously choking on her on blood on vomit, as the others had. Those were executions. Her's was more akin to an uassisted suicide ...
It really omits a lot of the details of how V caused the fires and explosions. I don't think film was the best media for an adaptation of this graphic novel, it was always going to get mangled or truncated. A TV series would do it much greater justice.
How did the bio-weapon human trials (composing of political enemies of the Norsefire party nonetheless) come about BEFORE the Norsefire party gained power? The way I understood the story is they gained their power AFTER the success of these experiments and the use of the bio-weapon it created.
I think this is a different bioweapon program based on enhancing humans and making them immune to bioweapons. (Hence why V is physically strong after the explosion, he was a success because he mutated) Or this is an earlier bio weapon program disguised as home security, which allowed Norsefire to enact what they wanted despite not being all too powerfull.
I believe Norsefire had been in power before the virus, due to worldwide collapse and war, but they were later facing the possibility of being taken down, so they utilized the virus they had developed in the meantine to bolster the support of the people, so they could remain in power and used the nation's fear to make their rule permanent.
S1baar The serum was the cure for the viral weapon they honed at that camp. They got the cure from V's blood. The doctor used innocent humans without thought or pity as lab rats to study the virus' effects. Her diary said V was mutated by the virus, into some being with total amnesia, but heightened senses and reflexes. His post-fire "vision" almost sounds like psychic ability.
The whole line about eyes is a reference to V's loss of humanity, therefore becoming the idea he represents. Eyes are easily one of the most distinguishing features on a person and there is a reason we have the saying "Eyes are the windows of the soul." By this point, Surridge had helped strip V and the others of their identity and finally seeing this man, now an idea, she couldn't see what made him human anymore.
Yup he was the prisoner in the cell number 5 in Roman number "V" they experimented on him and he survived but others died when they were injected as the same serum they used on "V" that's why he said they used them for test subjects but some of them failed and they had no regards to human life, basically treating them like rats.
Yes, he is blind. I suspect that V navigates just as well without the eyes as he is a super mutant with highly enhanced senses + super human strength, reflexes
Ehhhh, I don't think so. Maybe there was some *slight* influence, but given the fact that this character actually shows a conscience and regrets her actions makes her pretty separate from Engel.
Research the Holocaust. Absolutely horrific medical experiments were done on people in the name of the war effort. And that was real, not fiction like this movie.
Some people are monsters who will do anything to achieve their goals. If you dare, read about Unit 731, and the experiments the Imperial Japanese Army conducted on innocent civilians for scientific purposes. This scene was also a sad reflection of reality itself.
This is an alternate history if the Cold War with Russia and US exploded in Nuclear War, in midst of chaos Norsefire began to rise into power, they build a secret facility and with their own secret police they rounded up undesirables and use them as Gueina pigs Seems some thought the experiments was to create a virus to use in the Nuclear War But in reality it was to create the St. Mary’s Virus A controlled virus that’ll scare the public into Norsefire’s cause They’ll then “miraculously” feature a drug to undo the virus, apparently found in V’s blood he left behind in his breakout Norsefire party members who funded the Cure became rich and Adam Sandler came into power as the High Chancellor of England for helping “save” it with the Cure They only got away with this because the of Nuclear War made England weak enough for Norsefire to do this under the Radar
because they justified it with the idea of progress for humanity. "what are a few lives compared to the hundreds we could save?" there is no justification for murder, even if it means the possibility of progress. Those that toy with people's lives will always die in a manner befitting them.
Dude I miss the old Wachowski brothers writing. They used to great. Now they just joined the whole woke bullshit and put that over making good cinema. The Matrix trilogy and this film are fantastic. Cloud Atlas and Jupiter Ascending is when it dropped off that cliff.
" You're going to vaccinate me now? " " I vaccinated you 10 minutes ago while you slept. " " Is there any pain? " " I don't know, it's experimental. " LOL
