@Random Number On this episode of 'Reactor Nightmares' almost everybody coincidentally had some kind of disease which made them puke and die losing their hair in a few days with their blood rotting without white blood cells. What a freaking coincidence!
Dyatlov: *Gets home from work.* Dyatlovs wife: "Honey how was work?" Dyatlov: "Not great, not terrible." Dyatlovs wife: "BTW your skin is falling off." Dyatlov: "You're delusional."
@@AndrewNenakhov He was scared, just like everyone else. He wasn't a very good person, we know very well, but I bet he was trying to convince himself as well that the truth wasn't the truth. I don't like Dyatlov as much as the next guy, but I can try to understand how he'd be feeling. Of course he knew the truth. Of course he knew he saw graphite, and knew what it meant. But he was afraid. He was responsible for one of the worst nuclear accidents in history. He knew he'd be in trouble and he knew it would destroy himself and his reputation. (Which yeah, was already not great)
Gordon might be a jerk but at least he cooks well. If Dyatlov was a chef he'd be still jerk and his dishes would taste like crap. And conversely, if Ramsey was the nuclear expert in charge of Chernobyl right now he would have listened to the other scientist and stopped the test as soon as it would have gotten any funny reading.
No, if Gordon was in Chernobyl, looking at all the sh*te going on, he'd be like "F* off! You're useless, all of you! I'm holding meat in my hand, and it's cooking because of the radiation!"
I feel bad for the real Anatoly Stepanovich Dyatlov. His experiences and what happened to him left him scarred. His reputation was ultimately known as the man who blamed was for the chernobyl disaster. Even more worse and sad how, since HBO released the TV series, Dyatlov will be known as the monster who deserved everything that came his way. That couldn't be farther from the truth. Real Dyatlov was actually a good guy, a firm boss, but he was caring and respectful. None of the altercations seem in the show happened IRL at the control room the night of the disaster. In reality the room was completely calm and no arguments leading up to the explosion. Unfortunately HBO had to create more drama for the characters, so the took a poor old man and turned him into the devil we know as Comrade Dyatlov. The real Anatoly Dyatlov ultimately died from his efforts done that night (not shown in TV show conveniently). He got a fatal dose of radiation while trying to find missing Khodemchuck. He also tried multiple times to tell Akimov and Toptunov to go home, the refused (which would lead to their deaths). Real Dyatlov cared about his coworkers. We should all just let the man rest in peace. The things he saw and the mistakes he made (including accidently sending two men to their deaths) scarred him for life. He was put in the worst situation possible... maybe let's give this man a rest. Also realize a lot of HBO Dyatlov is Hollywood. Anatoly Stepanovich Dyatlov's life was not great, -not- -terrible- ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-N8__v9EswN4.html
I think possibly, in this case where this is the first western representation of a real historic moment from the time of old school USSR , the character representation is something of a stand-in for all the previous actual dictatorial leaders and occurrences in the old USSR. I know it's not necessarily comforting but I see it that way . Praying for change there, hate to think the curtain is being lifted again with no recourse.
I agree with you, Dyatlov is scapegoat of USRR politic. In Soviet Union they must find victim, so it’s Dyatlov and Briuchanov convicted to 10 years of labor camp… I think that the main reason of the disaster is faulty construction of reactor and that’s USRR side can’t admit because is „the only right line of the party“.
@@ukaszgrodzki3927 Honestly so many people are like "This shows just how bad the USSR really was!" because of Dyatlov or whatever, meanwhile the ACTUAL problems with the USSR were putting 100% of the blame on one dude who may or may not have been kind of a shitty boss but who was not solely responsible for the disaster. Maybe not even primarily responsible. The show is great but it gives people totally the wrong impression of the problems leading up to the disaster. It's a realm shame--the show spends so much time talking about "truth" but then gives us stuff like this.
Comrade Boris Schebina : I'm told Dyatlov's management style is only 3.6 roentgen toxicity, that's the equivalent of a chest x-ray. *5 Minutes later* Comrade General coming from Main control tower : It's not 3.6, it's 15 000.
The fact that Akimov gets to endure the highest radiation dose and gets most painful death, while Dyatlov goes on to live his life, is proof enough that one must walk the earth knowing there is no amount of good karma or love can save you from your fate.
@@thecheeselord5943 He was even worse. Much worse. There is interview with him after accident. He blamed reactor for the accident. It is docomented, that he was often yelling at his staff. He changed test parameters himself, below safety limits. When crew objected, he forced them to throw away safety procedures.
"Safety first, always. I've been saying that for 25 years." I absolutely love how he says this. It's arrogance, ignorance, and a hunger for control all rolling into one moment where he does the dumbest, most unsafe thing that could be done. Sure, some of his ignorance was because things were hidden from him, but that arrogance does not allow for the unknown.
We need all scientists on a mma workout plan. When the board tries to come down and start barking orders, they can give them the sweet chin music the world is asking for👍🏽
While it would've...the disaster revealed drawbacks in the power plant's systems...that and Legasov's suicide FORCED Soviet Union to make changes to their remaining reactors... . Imagine such a disaster happening in today's time...
@Ryan that doesn't excuse him from doing what he did...he was a jerk and became greedy over the potential promotion he'd be given if he successfully completed the test ... There were opportunities when he could've stopped the rest based on readings from the reactor and seeing how it was functioning properly but he didn't... . While it wasn't entirely his fault it would be wrong to say that he was completely innocent...
@@chickencurry7642 Definitely negligent. But the USSR intentionally censored multiple studies showing how unstable the reactor is at low or even normal power levels. They could’ve easily installed better safety measures and informed the power plant engineers. But they didn’t. Dyatlov was experienced, and had no idea anything he was doing was dangerous. He wasn’t a dick like he was in the show. You get bad safety features, and engineers trying to please authoritarian party officials, it leads to problems. The RBMK was so cheap and powerful, the USSR built the thing en masse before there was even a fully functioning prototype. Once the thing was so widely used, no one wanted to piss off the government by publicly talking about its faults.
@@nemo-x it is true there were many flaws in the reactor design that were hidden from the operators but they made mistake after mistake and bad judgment after bad judgment. They had all the safety systems turned off and were running things way outside normal parameters. There is enough blame to go around to everyone, including the entire Soviet system and culture. But there is still blame for the operators.
I actually saw a person with a shirt on with Dyatlov's (Paul Ritter) face on the other day at my local cafe with the quote "Not great, not terrible" written on it. This show made quite the impact on the younger people! I personally have watched it three times already.
@Pooty Pump I do agree. If someone posts it today it's *just too old* ... but the fact that someone had a shirt made (presumably custom-made) and printed with that specific quote shows quite an amount of dedication. And *that* dedication I admired.
I also read in something like the UK Times or Herald that there's a stone/marble plaque of Paul Ritter that says "R.I.P Paul Ritter, His Acting Was *Not Great, Not Terrible* (with the first 'Not' being crossed out). I hope that's real haha.
@@tomr6955 not only that they also managed to set a new record for amount of power that an RBMK reactor can output they got it up past 33000 megawatts before she blew🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This mini series came out on HBO right after disastrous ending of Game of Thrones. Chernobyl mini series provied us with an example of how series should be made.
@George Thomas The show does exaggerate his hostility. But he was over bearing as a supervisor and had been reprimanded for it. But this was his second nuclear incident, and he was the man in charge during the test. There was a chain of critical failures leading up to the explosion from the installation of the reactor onward and Anatoly Dyatlov was a link in that chain.
There is one big criticism against this series and that's the political agenda: It's over-the-top anti-socialist propaganda packed with disinformation to make the USSR look bad and portray Soviet leadership like selfish, power-hungry sociopaths. This series is especially unfair to Anatoly Stepanovich Dyatlov. His real experiences and what happened to him left him scarred. His reputation was ultimately known as the man who blamed was for the Chernobyl disaster (even though it was mostly an accident that EVERYONE across the leadership line tried to prevent). Even more worse and sad how, since HBO released the TV series, Dyatlov will be known as the monster who deserved everything that came his way. That couldn't be farther from the truth. Real Dyatlov was actually a good guy, a firm boss, but he was caring and respectful. None of the altercations seen in the show happened IRL at the control room the night of the disaster. In reality the room was completely calm and no arguments leading up to the explosion. Unfortunately HBO had to create more drama for the characters, so the took a poor old man and turned him into the devil we know as Comrade Dyatlov. The real Anatoly Dyatlov ultimately died from his efforts done that night (not shown in TV show conveniently). He got a fatal dose of radiation while trying to find missing Khodemchuck. He also tried multiple times to tell Akimov and Toptunov to go home, they refused (which would lead to their deaths). Real Dyatlov cared about his coworkers and everyone cared about the safety and preventing disaster. We should all just let the man rest in peace. The things he saw and the mistakes he made (including accidently sending two men to their deaths) scarred him for life. He was put in the worst situation possible... maybe let's give this man a rest. Also realize a lot of HBO Dyatlov is Hollywood. Anatoly Stepanovich Dyatlov's life was not great, not terrible.
The visual of Dyatlov being carried off is striking. The way guards carry a sick man in need of help and a suspect under arrest is indistinguishable. They drag a man in need of help in the same way you'd expect them to treat an enemy. I imagine the director likely wanted to impart an early visual reference to his guilt onto us, but I think it's interesting to look at both framings.
Every time I see a clip from this movie on youtube, I immediately want to watch the whole series again. Seen it three times already, back to back. So good!
The show needed an antagonist. That being said, obeying orders you knew were stupid and dangerous was the norm in USSR. That's what this show captures the best imo - how if everyone keeps giving up to non-sense, closing their eyes, it leads to millions of dead in the gulag.
I believe he received the fatal dose down in the pump room. Had he and Akimov fled the plant then and there there is a probable chance that they would’ve survived. Even with an increased risk of cancer.
@@stoneylonesome4062 almost all of them lived a long time and didn't die (or are even still alive in 2021) from cancer etc. The radiation was only really bad at the reactor, the graphite, under the reactor etc. It's not like it wiped out anyone that went near it.
@@testy462 Only one guy from the control room is alive today. I think Dyatlov himself was second to last to die more than 20 years ago. Most of them died within one month. It is true that most workers survived the accident, mainly because they and their chefs were intelligent enough not to run around where one shouldn't run around. However, THESE guys from the control room got tons of radiation.
The real Dyatlov was not so incompetent as the series would have you believe. Man was born in Siberia to poor parents who probably beat the crap out of him since he ran away at 14. Despite all that he ended up working at one of USSR's biggest power plant in a supervisor job in a system (communist) that was infamous for promoting nepotism.
Dyatlov was actually a very good person, but when I say really, really. It's just Chernobyl HBO really wanted to blame dyatlov for what happened so they of course made people think that Dyatlov was rude. Everything you see here in the HBO Chernobyl about Dyatlov begin rude, that never happened, Dyatlov wasn't rude, and never wanted to be rude. Dyatlov even risked his own life to death to try and rescue his fellow mates in the Unit 4 Block, he went in all rooms, trying to search for people to rescue. HBO Chernobyl is just, 100% inaccurate, 100% useless movie to watch, none of the facts In the movie are right. Dyatlov was arrested for regulations that in 1986 didn't exist, basically that he got falsely arrested for death sentence, but since they were added in like early 1987, In the final trial in 1987, he was accused of those, there was none of the regulations he was accused of in 1986.
It's just that Comrade Dyatlov isn't anymore with us and he can't defense his self sadly, everyone thinks that Dyatlov was a really rude and toxic person but actually he was a very good person.
@@OsmanEner The problem is with the wide audience of western society that they cannot comprehend anything outside the field of what was fed to them and they actually belief a lot of nonsense that is historically inaccurate. The story of one mens failure is just another cover-up story, in the same way that one lone guy killed JFK. It doesent matter what reality is, the puplic is only accepting what the general consensus is that was told to them by the MSM in the long run.
@@OsmanEner Ok komrade lol Fuck off. Dyatlov was an extremely intelligent man but his hubris and confidence mixed with the lying of the soviet union cause they worst man made disaster in history. I know about the inaccuracies about this show. This show wasnt really meant to be a history biopic. It's a drama based around true events and people.
@@SaithMasu12 the problem is you expect anyone to care enough nobody will go out there way to to read into it out of there daily lives half the people we see probably weren’t even real even if you were right what does shaming him do he’s already passed away it’s just stupid and so are you if you believe this is exclusive to Americans
Those who worked under the real Dyatlov described him as efficient and straight-laced but never abusive as portrayed in the show. The writers needed a villain, so it was Dyatlov. Still, great acting by Paul Ritter.
He did indeed threaten his co-workers that night though, probably due to the fact that his career was on the line if the safety test didn't go over well. A crew of workers who don't know what they're doing + a supervisor who screams and threatens them with termination = catastrophic failure.
@@Kaipyro67ALT to be fair he was making his decisions based on BS data that was provided by his higher ups. In that situation you don't have time to play games debating what to do. If he had the proper information that whole thing probably wouldn't have happened.
@@kapitanbeuteltier5889 well his co-workers never said that he talked like that. In fact in the control room they said that everything was calm. Also in reality he helped after the accident to rescue the workers.
This whole reply chain is somewhat right. I think he was probably your average boss; still an arrogant asshole, but was not out of the ordinary evil and plus he did help his fellow workers after the accident
The most shocking revelation of this mini series is that despite Dyatlov's recklessness, he wasn't 100% to blame here. The positive void coefficient flaw with RBMK reactors was unknown to him because it was censored by the Soviet state.
True, but Dyatlov's ultimate decision to bypass multiple safeties to run the test under lower power than it was supposed to have been conducted with was the trigger that caused the series of events that led to the core exploding. Dyatlov never admitted his part in the incident, even if he helped cover for coworkers who the Party was trying to blame.
@@SilverPrince_ It's like in so, so, so many accidents - be it Eschede or the 737 Max crashes - even if it all goes back to literally a single element that failed, there were numerous decisions along the way - some of them of the "they should have known at the time that was wrong" kind, some of the "well, you take one of the two options per a coin flip, this time the coin came up the wrong way up - which could have prevented the accident. The lesson is to design systems in such a way that such decisions can never result in terrible catastrophe. And if they can to ensure that those who take them are people who will always take the correct one. And as the latter is impossible, try for the former as much as you possibly can.
@@SilverPrince_ I can't say that Diatlov wasn't reckless for the rules he broke. But then again knowing his expression in the trial , he was surprised when AZ5 was not the kill switch to the reactor but to the actual life around that area. They all believed that at the end of the day as long as AZ5 works, nothing can happen. Although it is clear that all 3 directors knew about the graphite tips rods, but they were probably all in the mind to bring the power back up from the poisoned state that they missed the part that AZ5 actually reinserted the Graphite tip rod to the graphite moderator base of the core that endlessly create steam pressure that ultimately kills it.
Dyatlov's actor Paul Ritter just passed away at 54. He played the character so memorably and anyone who has seen his other roles knows that he had a remarkably diverse talent spanning comedy, blockbuster action movies and miniseries dramas.
Dyatlov was an educated, cultured, well-mannered person. He did not shout at his colleagues and did not use foul language. And he was not an idiot. The real person was blatantly slandered. And this whole show is full of lies.
There are plenty of witnesses stating that Dyatlov was tough on carelessness and incompetence but understanding about problems which could not be avoided. And that is necessary when dealing with something like a nuclear reactor. This isn't some office job where knocking a cup of coffee over your desk is the biggest "disaster" likely to occur, and safety meetings center around the air conditioning being set too low for the female employees.
@@forestdenizen6497 Dunno what cartoon world you live in where thats the case... Also spilling coffee on documents is annoying cause you have to then go print off new documents wasting time. Its worse if they are original copies.
while i was watching the series i didn’t notice that when Dyatlov looked down to the window he knew there was graphite on the ground, he knew that the core exploded. he was scared and mostly, he couldn’t swallow his pride and say that he failed his job.
@Lana he wasn't indocrinated, no one was in the way you say it, everything there worked on lies, The workers will do everything for their own good, the people above them will think it's all fine and good, when the problem goes on them, they preserve themselves and blame others or say everything is fine, then the people above do the same thing. The goverment was all lies, all professional interactions between people we're all lies ( in their jobs), even personal interactions we're all lies.
Guys you all got it wrong..It's not possible that Dyatlov saw graphite..The control room is below the reactor so it's not at all possible for Dyatlov to see graphite.. In the series they have shown that control room is at 2/3 floor well in reality it wasn't..
I cant understand this, my grandparents lived in soviet times and they say that thats exactly how things were, but if somethin that big happens....well you dont hav to care about your pride in this moment because you most likely are going to die anyway , only thing that you can do is to try to sve others from it
Same for the others, Toptunov and him stayed afterwards, even as their shift ended, and went on opening the valves under the reactor, absorbing lethal doses of radiation...
Equipment stealing was extremely common. It was common even when locked, because it was stolen by the guy with the key. So they made twin key locks, two people were required to open them. But the locks were crap, and equipment kept being stolen.
The series is not portraying reality. It's not a documentary. It's fiction and over-the-top anti-socialist propaganda packed with disinformation to make the USSR look bad and portray Soviet leadership like selfish, power-hungry sociopaths. This series is especially unfair to Anatoly Stepanovich Dyatlov. His real experiences and what happened to him left him scarred. His reputation was ultimately known as the man who blamed was for the Chernobyl disaster (even though it was mostly an accident that EVERYONE across the leadership line tried to prevent). Even more worse and sad how, since HBO released the TV series, Dyatlov will be known as the monster who deserved everything that came his way. That couldn't be farther from the truth. Real Dyatlov was actually a good guy, a firm boss, but he was caring and respectful. None of the altercations seen in the show happened IRL at the control room the night of the disaster. In reality the room was completely calm and no arguments leading up to the explosion. Unfortunately HBO had to create more drama for the characters, so the took a poor old man and turned him into the devil we know as Comrade Dyatlov. The real Anatoly Dyatlov ultimately died from his efforts done that night (not shown in TV show conveniently). He got a fatal dose of radiation while trying to find missing Khodemchuck. He also tried multiple times to tell Akimov and Toptunov to go home, they refused (which would lead to their deaths). Real Dyatlov cared about his coworkers and everyone cared about the safety and preventing disaster. We should all just let the man rest in peace. The things he saw and the mistakes he made (including accidently sending two men to their deaths) scarred him for life. He was put in the worst situation possible... maybe let's give this man a rest. Also realize a lot of HBO Dyatlov is Hollywood. Anatoly Stepanovich Dyatlov's life was not great, not terrible.
I love how even when they guys saying he looked right into the reactor core Dyatlov is oblivious to the fact that maybe the reactor core did in fact explode
@@raven4k998 To be fair, they were told over and over again that it was impossible for the core to explode, and the mind generally doesn't want to accept something so horrific anyways, so a double whammy of somewhat understandable denial.
Speaking of British humor, can you imagine if they cast John Cleese to play Antoly Dyatlov? I think it would’ve would ruined the miniseries’ drama having a well known comic actor in the cast.
Never forget the immortal words of Comrade Dyatlov: "Safety First, Always". That's why he was safely away in the toilet while his engineers were poisoning his reactor
Chernobyl wasn't the first reactor he melted down... much earlier in his career he was involved in another reactor incident while installing reactors to nuclear submarines. Safety first indeed.
@@tylisirn read up on him... He's not the arsehole portrayed on TV. You talk like he's personally liable for both accidents, lmao. He was just the corrupt party's scapegoat for the incident.
The director wanted to paint Comrade Dyatlov in a more flattering light but Dyatlov slapped the script out of his hands and said, "I've had chest x-rays with more roentgens than this script!"
“I saw graphite on the ground.” “No, you didn’t.” Authoritarianism in a nutshell. Edit: Unreal, had no idea this comment would get a response like this. Best wishes to all, positive & negative!
"The reactor exploded" Dyatlov: no it didn't "There's graphite on the floor" Dyatlov: no there isn't "I looked directly into the core" Dyatlov: you're delusional "The dosimeter maxed at 200 rontgen" Dyatlov: the meter is faulty "Your literally puking" Dyatlov: excuse me
