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@C0C0N0T
@C0C0N0T 3 года назад
I don't really understand people commenting that the *streamer* could talk less.. If you didn't want her reaction, which is the whole point of this, then watch the original video
@itzrainbowdragon1915
@itzrainbowdragon1915 3 года назад
Right. She was talking to her chat 😂 isn’t that what streamers do? People don’t know that?? 😂
@blessyzhaine
@blessyzhaine 3 года назад
exactlyyy, its called a reaction vid for a reason
@ubemvuossas665
@ubemvuossas665 3 года назад
it has to do with just nonsense commentary, saying shut up every 2 minutes and adding nothing to the conversation, just interrupting the flow of the video to remember the viewer that she's present without making an effort of making an actual point. I watch her reacting a lot, and this one in particular is annoying for me too. She usually makes points on other cases, or pauses to try and understand the case better, here she did none of that, just said "shut up" "he's guilty" and made dramatic reactions on a pretty uneventful video.
@denimhead8403
@denimhead8403 3 года назад
They don't know how much I appreciate Rae's kindness. She is so wholesome and I feel secure and warm listening her. She won the Game Awards mostly for her personal quality.
@ItsWindHere
@ItsWindHere 3 года назад
Deadass this. Same with pausing
@veggiemonkie5041
@veggiemonkie5041 3 года назад
Im really enjoying the true crime meta, it feels like im learning watching a horror movie and a comedy all at once with a friend. Its great.
@nil4384
@nil4384 3 года назад
yess it's like watching a thriller suspense movie
@user-fv9ep7dv9c
@user-fv9ep7dv9c 3 года назад
Comedy? A real story about a real person getting murdered...
@clayandros2038
@clayandros2038 3 года назад
@@user-fv9ep7dv9c the comedic part is the reaction from people like Rae and hassan if you noticed they do have some really funny reactions or statements. Stop trying to make a deal out of nothing
@user-fv9ep7dv9c
@user-fv9ep7dv9c 3 года назад
@@clayandros2038 lmao why you so angwy
@haunt7844
@haunt7844 3 года назад
@@user-fv9ep7dv9c nobody’s angry
@godwinwong2809
@godwinwong2809 3 года назад
Imagine you are commiting a heinous crime, and you start with "Hi my name is Johnny!" And your name is ACTUALLY JOHNNY!
@agapic445
@agapic445 3 года назад
did u watch the full video ?? he didn't do anything
@godwinwong2809
@godwinwong2809 3 года назад
@@agapic445 yes that's the point.
@olivialorge9483
@olivialorge9483 3 года назад
right and also why would you introduce yourself again if you already knew the girls
@hinamatsuro1908
@hinamatsuro1908 3 года назад
Bet your female
@jimmymcgill7370
@jimmymcgill7370 3 года назад
That’s actually genius on the real killer’s part. He introduced himself as Johnny while purposefully leaving a witness behind in order to frame John. John was an unpopular weirdo so he would’ve been an easy person to frame - even his own family believed he did it. The real killer must’ve been someone familiar with him & how creepy he was. Scary shit.
@JasperForge
@JasperForge 3 года назад
I didn't even need to gasp cause her gasp was perfect
@temutemacular
@temutemacular 3 года назад
We can gasp together 🤝
@calvinlicuanan2803
@calvinlicuanan2803 2 года назад
47:40
@DasaniDragon
@DasaniDragon 2 года назад
I like how she was so critical and then boom plot twist
@MorphieGrey
@MorphieGrey 3 года назад
This is so intriguing because either A. The mom did tell the sisters to tell the cops or B. The sister decided to take justice into her own hands
@MrsChangalang
@MrsChangalang 3 года назад
@DaFuzzBearYT yes I thought so too. They saw the opportunity and potential to get him in jail and went with it
@perrrry
@perrrry 2 года назад
I know I'm late, but this is the situation. The sisters made up this story to get back at him. Pretty horrible people all together.
@jennaalyse2072
@jennaalyse2072 2 года назад
@@perrrry the sisters are horrible for putting their pedophile brother behind bars?
@jennaalyse2072
@jennaalyse2072 2 года назад
@@perrrry the sisters are horrible for putting their pedophile brother behind bars?
@saitodosan9377
@saitodosan9377 Год назад
Quote unquote "justice" lol
@ozyssah
@ozyssah 3 года назад
he may not be guilty of killing that girl, but he's still guilty of being a terrible human also its pretty sad that this case may never be solved due to him being put behind bars
@maxkrepps9474
@maxkrepps9474 3 года назад
The problem isn't that he was a terrible person, its that you or me could just as easily been wrongfully imprisoned or even given the death penalty for a crime we didn't commit.
@ozyssah
@ozyssah 3 года назад
@@maxkrepps9474 id say they both are problems
@maxkrepps9474
@maxkrepps9474 3 года назад
@@hunterbargstadt3847 Where do you know this from? The video said he got convicted for the murder, so I assumed the video did their homework. If you think people don't get convicted wrongfully for things like this, without having done anything wrong, you're on meth.
@mordirit8727
@mordirit8727 3 года назад
It really was the perfect storm, a molester and pedophile matching so well the description of someone who abducted, raped and killed a child, on an evening he, in theory, didn't have the time to be there but _actually_ had all the time in the world to be there because he drove back home instead of taking the train... Had he not placed that call, anyone would say there was sufficient circumstantial evidence to incriminate him, when it was likely just a huge coincidence. I still can't believe he can openly say he molested his sisters and walk free, "it happened when we were all young" sure buddy, either they weren't born by then or you were in your late teens when it happened, you can't exactly have done that when you _both_ were young with that big an age gap moron... I don't understand how the hell that didn't land him anything.
@stanmarsh4566
@stanmarsh4566 3 года назад
@@ozyssahAnd I'd say you have NO PROOF of his guilt kiddo.
@ma1i._
@ma1i._ 3 года назад
the way i gasped SO LOUD when he said that he was innocent
@wolfbakugoukatsuki547
@wolfbakugoukatsuki547 2 года назад
Lmaoooo same
@laylab6901
@laylab6901 2 года назад
Swear I accidentally went to sleep and boom wake up from that😭
@calvinlicuanan2803
@calvinlicuanan2803 2 года назад
47:40
@makkigae6396
@makkigae6396 3 года назад
I’d just like to say it is definitely possible to lie on a lie detector test. You just have to learn how to calm your heart and blood pressure along with your oxygen intake.
@shakewell42
@shakewell42 3 года назад
Which is less than probable for him seeing how red his face was :/
@makkigae6396
@makkigae6396 3 года назад
@@shakewell42 true
@lyndseywilliams9993
@lyndseywilliams9993 3 года назад
A lie detector isn’t even considered primary evidence anymore. Only supplemental and used to prompt more investigation/probably suspicion.
@RaulLopez-qj9yn
@RaulLopez-qj9yn 3 года назад
Calm down Naruto
@levi4979
@levi4979 3 года назад
The easiest way to get passed the test, is to convince yourself that you're telling the truth.
@ZuperPhresh
@ZuperPhresh 3 года назад
getting away with shit back in the day was actually a joke.
@erickbocanegra2872
@erickbocanegra2872 3 года назад
ikr and now people complaining sentences too harsh you cant make people content ever sadly
@sparknazo
@sparknazo 3 года назад
Yeah crime and serial killers pre 2000s were out of control dna tracing improvements literally helped with so much cold cases and the fact people are way more hesitate to commit crimes due to easily being found
@taras9655
@taras9655 3 года назад
@@sparknazo yeah like the whole stephanie lazarus case. if those cops didnt look into the case again and investigate into dna tracing, that crime would probably still be cold
@KevinLopez-fm9kz
@KevinLopez-fm9kz 3 года назад
The 1900's were practically the purge
@lavarelease2928
@lavarelease2928 2 года назад
Legit as long as you weren't there when the cops showed up, you were golden
@Insidious-K
@Insidious-K 3 года назад
the FBI was doing gymnastics with timing like mans was the flash. Dude was still deffo creepy tho
@xeno9744
@xeno9744 3 года назад
i feel bad that he got blamed for all this but i mean he did molest his sisters, the guys not a saint but he is innocent of marie’s murder
@dexter2178
@dexter2178 3 года назад
no he wasnt hes 100 percent innocent
@Insidious-K
@Insidious-K 3 года назад
@@dexter2178 I know he’s innocent of the crime but dude was still super dodgy when faced with the questions about his sisters. We know he’s innocent of the Murder but we still have yet to find out whether he was a molester or not.
@Cami-dc9iu
@Cami-dc9iu 2 года назад
i know right! even tho he is innocent i almost vomit when he said he love her. its so weird 🤮
@twanvanderdonk2504
@twanvanderdonk2504 2 года назад
I mean, the timeline put forward in the video do not prove he didn't do it. "He couldn't have driven too fast" is essentially what he's saying, which is dumb. There might be more evidence, but this video doesn't prove it.
@Sunnybias
@Sunnybias 2 года назад
That plot twist had me jaw dropping!! No doubt he was guilty of assault of his sisters and maybe others, so I am happy he is jailed - BUT WHO KILLED MARIA!!?!? And the family will probably never know... plus the fact the police ignored the timeline is just weirding me out.
@michaelbona142
@michaelbona142 2 года назад
I feel like he was saying the guy with the green shirt was the guy who murdered them?
@miiketookit
@miiketookit 2 года назад
HE killed Maria. Y’all literally changed your minds just because this RU-vidr says he’s innocent? xD and he’s basing that claim on faulty statements on when the girl was abducted 🤦‍♂️
@kaij3315
@kaij3315 2 года назад
@@miiketookit i'm only ten minutes into the video but i was wondering that if john tessier actually killed maria then why wasn't he recognised by kathy, the other girl present. they were even living in the same neighborhood, she must have been familiar with him- and if not then she could have definitely later recalled during the investigation that john was maria's abductor. did they not let kathy see john to identify him?
@jiraffe9600
@jiraffe9600 2 года назад
Didn't he get released from jail though?
@CLAIRE-_-.
@CLAIRE-_-. 2 года назад
@@miiketookit But it's not just a youtuber saying it. He was exonerated and declared innocent. The youtuber gave us the facts too
@remyuk
@remyuk 3 года назад
i've known about this case since middle school, and i swear i haven't seen anyone covering it. i'm not the biggest fan of rae by any means (not because i dislike her, i just don't watch her at all) but i love that rae is giving this case more publicity.
@savannah8686
@savannah8686 3 года назад
this is so sweet
@Wa1kerSta1ker0
@Wa1kerSta1ker0 2 года назад
"Justice doesn't have an expiration date." Sadly when it comes to certain crimes, such as rape, there is the statute of limitations.
@NithinJune
@NithinJune 17 дней назад
yea i was surprised to learn Illinois doesn’t have a statute of limitations for murder. Statues of limitations exist for this exact reason, it’s just insanely hard to mount a decent defense so long after the alleged crime took place
@NithinJune
@NithinJune 17 дней назад
Illinois abolished its statute of limitations for ALL sex crimes in 2007. That means that no, there is no expiration date for rape in illinois
@Wa1kerSta1ker0
@Wa1kerSta1ker0 17 дней назад
@@NithinJune Oh shit that's great. I didn't know that, thank you.
@Moraenil
@Moraenil 2 года назад
This video is actually a very good lesson. You never actually know what's going on with an investigation, no matter how current, because you only ever get a tiny portion of the story from the media and others, even those who may be involved. It always amazes me how many people don't think about that and draw horrible conclusions based on a little bit of slanted, even warped, information.
@that80ssongyoulove84
@that80ssongyoulove84 3 года назад
I suspected his innocence when he became defensive, it was a gut feeling. I ignored my gut because of the narrative thread. I feel like this is a great example of why we shouldn’t make assumptions, and felt coaxed into believing he was guilty of the murder. For me, this was definitely a cautionary tale.
@miiketookit
@miiketookit 2 года назад
Wait so you changed your mind simply because this RU-vidr says so and the fact that he made a call at a certain time? Wow.
@capybrah
@capybrah 2 года назад
@@miiketookit simply said, ofc not proven. The sisters probably took the chance for justice to blame him after "molesting" them at young age. So yea, he is innocent when it comes to Mari's death but, idk about the sister's claim as it can't be proven.
@adreak9868
@adreak9868 2 года назад
@@miiketookit "You killed her, I don't care that we have proof you were in Europe at the time, we don't like you so you're guilty" is equivalent to what you're saying.
@shrimpified4413
@shrimpified4413 3 года назад
This man is like a teenager at school being anmoyed when a teacher asks him questions lol
@kong838
@kong838 2 года назад
Because he was innocent
@Cami-dc9iu
@Cami-dc9iu 2 года назад
true lol he is so annoying, cant imagine having a fight with him oh God 😂
@ninjapandas22
@ninjapandas22 3 года назад
"WHO ASKED?!" Has become my new favorite thing during these type of videos. Rae you are the best, don't ever change.
@oomay1925
@oomay1925 3 года назад
Respect to Lao. I mean obviously he didn't want to expose himself, but wow that was so frustrating.
@ushna1838
@ushna1838 3 года назад
Then ig this also kind of explains how he was confused about there being another girl playing with Marie when the abduction took place. He was like what girl everytime they talked about her.
@booperdooper9762
@booperdooper9762 3 года назад
Rae angrily liking is hilarious
@calvinlicuanan2803
@calvinlicuanan2803 2 года назад
59:16
@KittyKat365dayz
@KittyKat365dayz 3 года назад
ya know, elderly people can be stubborn as a mule, but he’s as stubborn as 100 mules and 3 donkeys having a bad day.
@theJuLYheat
@theJuLYheat 2 года назад
I'm shocked that no dummies got on here and tried to say that a donkey and a mule are the same. I kno they're not, but I'm still shocked af.
@savannah8536
@savannah8536 3 года назад
I’m sorry but when Valky said “that’s one foot through the door” I just imagined her kicking a foot through a physical closed door 😅😂
@lonelypancake5979
@lonelypancake5979 3 года назад
Well… knowing Rae
@Zesserie
@Zesserie 3 года назад
So the dude was literally in love with a kid, he had an alibi so that he couldn't have abducted her. but the way he talked about her, he had a thing for that kid.
@majeedjashshan2327
@majeedjashshan2327 3 года назад
I am officially addicted to these types of videos.
@Mykeynikey22331
@Mykeynikey22331 Год назад
And remember kids, never talk to police without a lawyer. Literally do not say a word without a lawyer present.
@tani3107
@tani3107 3 года назад
he's still guilty for molesting his sisters but he's not guilty for this case, the real killer was still out there for those years and imagine the number of times detectives tunnel visioned and tried to frame someone who was actually innocent
@nicholaswilliams8324
@nicholaswilliams8324 2 года назад
"may" be guilty
@KEMS_music
@KEMS_music 3 года назад
45:47 did anyone else see the subtitles have a stroke saying “detective cecinski” 😂
@esRaortiz
@esRaortiz 3 года назад
The mom threw her son under the bus because she had guilt over something she wasn’t even sure off. This whole case is disturbing, useless detectives not cross referencing simple evidence, a man who molested his sisters but jailed for a separate incident then found innocent and exonerated. I hope those detectives got demoted, as for the man. Yuck, he may be innocent but he did something disgusting to his sisters.
@benpayne1899
@benpayne1899 3 года назад
tbf, the molesting of his sisters is also not proven. It's their word vs his, without actual evidence, you can't say he is guilty of that or not.
@esRaortiz
@esRaortiz 3 года назад
@@benpayne1899 with how defensive he was and giving strangers kids piggy back rides I wouldn’t doubt it. But yeah there was no case for that to prove it.
@jeya2898
@jeya2898 3 года назад
@@esRaortiz true, wouldn't put it past him in any way
@nimmuraj
@nimmuraj 3 года назад
I think the mom didn't say anything on death bed. It is the sisters who wanted revenge for on their brother for being molested as child made it up. The sheer determination to ask the police year and year again for a girl they might not even have met seems over the top unless they have underlying anger they wanted to appease.
@jimmymcgill7370
@jimmymcgill7370 3 года назад
The real killer probably knew John was a creep (or at least rumored to be one) and decided he’d be an easy person to frame.
@sk43999
@sk43999 3 года назад
Ah, the weird sisters. Janet waited 14 years until her father had died before going to the police with the story of the "confession" because she knew he would corroborate Jack's alibi. Isn't she a sweetheart? Mary, who heard the same "confession", didn't remember her mother saying much of anything, but, by golly, if Janet says it's true, then it must be true! Were the cops telling the truth? All they were trying to do was get Jack to sign a confession, and if they lied their asses off to do so, who cared? They would never be held accountable for having done so. David Zulawski provably lied. Brion Hanley provably lied under oath. Cloyd Steiger admitted that he deliberately lied to suspects. Mike Ciesynski admitted he wasn't concerned about telling the truth. The lawyer for Irene Lau, the lady who ran the polygraph machine, admitted that she lied under oath as a witness at Jack's tiral, and that the assistant state's prosecutor, Julie Trevarthen, had lied to the judge and the public defender about whether or not a video of the polygraph interrogation even existed. (Hint - the lawyer first found about it by finding it on RU-vid.) The judge was known by the name "Hanging Judge Hallock." Even the appellate court judge, in upholding the conviction, fabricated testimony from the witnesses. Ain't justice wonderful?
@jerrymoostache7821
@jerrymoostache7821 4 месяца назад
WHOA! I had no clue that the sister waited 14 years!? I thought she went to the police right after the mother had died, not that she waited 14 years for the father to die then go to the police. She's such evil it's unbelievable
@ivankoh3779
@ivankoh3779 3 года назад
32:55 lmao Rae calling him an idiot for not knowing how to answer but then she says "it's obviously YES", which would mean she confessed to a crime
@howder0375
@howder0375 3 года назад
She was saying that his behavior was the same thing as saying yes
@maxkrepps9474
@maxkrepps9474 3 года назад
yeah, its better not to say yes if you actually did it, however I think polygraph tests are inadmissible in court. However you never know what saying yes could affect. Maybe if he had said yes, it would've meant that nobody would've looked further into his case because either they didn't like him or they believed he basically confessed.
@darkstar5871
@darkstar5871 3 года назад
I was listening to this while driving and completely didnt realize until about halfway through that I live right next to sycamore...I know exactly where this happened...
@SwannysGworl
@SwannysGworl 3 года назад
That's tweaky. I live like an hour away from sycamore and I gasped when I heard it was so close to home
@AngelicRamen
@AngelicRamen 2 года назад
Imagine caring about the brutal murder of a little girl so little that you dedicate dozens of hours of your life to convicting an innocent man instead of finding her killer.
@creepofreako
@creepofreako 2 года назад
It's a very logical question, "have you ever committed a crime that you have never been caught before?" If you answered YES, it could mean that you committed it and never been caught. And if you answered NO, It could also mean that No, i was never caught. Lmao. That's why he was so defensive with that question and keep on avoiding it coz he felt like he was cornered.
@Wannabe42069
@Wannabe42069 3 года назад
He didn’t cross his arms because he was uncomfortable it’s a defensive position
@maxkrepps9474
@maxkrepps9474 3 года назад
she said literally like 2 seconds after "he's in his defensive state"
@sk4rrt
@sk4rrt 3 года назад
@@maxkrepps9474 so?
@maxkrepps9474
@maxkrepps9474 3 года назад
@@sk4rrt well I'm just sayin, the main comment isn't saying anything that rae didn't say...
@sk4rrt
@sk4rrt 3 года назад
@@maxkrepps9474 that’s the point
@maxkrepps9474
@maxkrepps9474 3 года назад
@@sk4rrt I don't get it, please explain
@Xelvani
@Xelvani 3 года назад
I was pissed on how the way he talked to the polygrapher 👁️👄👁️
@llamainyamama3088
@llamainyamama3088 3 года назад
Getting through this video was EXHAUSTING… I am thoroughly stressed.
@ahtzee9078
@ahtzee9078 3 года назад
That’s was a major plot twist at the end! Wow.
@sir_thomas5186
@sir_thomas5186 3 года назад
I want to see her watch lemino.
@coho8315
@coho8315 3 года назад
Exactly
@dobj_ericb
@dobj_ericb 3 года назад
Those are some high quality productions, for sure
@cookie8706
@cookie8706 3 года назад
S-tier Channel
@mauiavedana6723
@mauiavedana6723 3 года назад
out of all the true crime reactions that rae has had recently, why did this story stress me out the most??
@sophieceleste4771
@sophieceleste4771 3 года назад
Oooop just saw that the video wasn't over... what he's innocent?! Huh?!
@Kaisuir
@Kaisuir 3 года назад
It stresses me out so much too probably party because my ptsd be acting up
@_dot_
@_dot_ 3 года назад
Probably because when something isn't finished that makes people feel ver
@ThaTyphon
@ThaTyphon 3 года назад
@@sophieceleste4771 You can just delete your comment lol. Its all good.
@sophieceleste4771
@sophieceleste4771 3 года назад
@@ThaTyphon huh? I thought I already did. My bad 😅 thank you for reminding me. Have a lovely day ~~
@MoreMonarchy
@MoreMonarchy 2 года назад
That video was so well made. The whole time she was clearly acting like she knew he was guilty, it's a good twist.
@haley335
@haley335 3 года назад
I think the sisters, who most likely told their mother what disturbing things happened in their home as they got older, wanted revenge for what he did, so they said he did it. I wouldn't be suprised if the girls thought he commited the crime, due to age, but wouldn't the mother know that her child didn't commit a serious crime. I'm just thinking that maybe the daughters telling the mother what happened later in the years, made them dislike Johnny for what he did to them, which is why she changed her answer later on, on her death bed When it got to the point in this story of the girls saying he wasnt home when the mother did, i immediately believed it. This is me just thinking honestly
@kaseykershner4687
@kaseykershner4687 2 года назад
My jaw DROPPED. Super well-produced segment.
@oomay1925
@oomay1925 3 года назад
The other little girl that was playing, why couldn't they have her look at the suspects and identify the man...?
@norawithanh
@norawithanh 3 года назад
maybe because she’s a minor or something idrk but that’s all i can think of
@mariahlynn7715
@mariahlynn7715 3 года назад
omg youre right, were they dumber in the 50s? bc this sounds like common knowledge and one of the first things you might do...
@evanmcc99
@evanmcc99 3 года назад
They did have her look at the suspects and identify people. They literally produced dozens of photos even people who slightly fit the picture she painted. And she identified several people.
@mariahlynn7715
@mariahlynn7715 3 года назад
neverminddd omg at 43:17 they say kathy identified him as the man so i guess since he was cleared by the police, they just assumed she was wrong
@oomay1925
@oomay1925 3 года назад
@@mariahlynn7715 ya I can't tell if they purposefully just got a bunch of photos and placed him in it just to see how he'll react or if those were actually photos she identified. Because he didn't recognize any of these guys it seemed which would be odd imo
@takineko
@takineko Год назад
I mean honestly his best alibi would have been "that was 50 years ago and I wasn't there so I don't actually remember much of anything"
@CoRLex-jh5vx
@CoRLex-jh5vx 2 года назад
"I knew Maria's parents! I played with their daughters!" "Did you play with Maria that day?" "What?! No! She was a child!"
@lightingboltzero8575
@lightingboltzero8575 Год назад
I believe he ment Maria's older sisters. Kay who was 15 and Pat aged 16 they did knew Jack (Johnny) and played together when they were younger. It's in the 1957 FBI/Police Reports I have read. Also Maria did played with Jack's younger brother Bob who was 6 years old at the time, Maria would play with Bob over their house and Bob would play over at Maria's house. All of this information I read from interviews from the 1957 police reports which they interviewed family, friends, neighbours, school teachers etc.
@darrenhughes4444
@darrenhughes4444 3 года назад
Most disdain ever - Rae “Here’s your like” 😂🤣😂🤣
@queeniee9800
@queeniee9800 3 года назад
Her reactions are more dramatic than the actual video.
@jennywithaglock3916
@jennywithaglock3916 3 года назад
then just watch the original video? you clicked onthis video for her reaction...
@queeniee9800
@queeniee9800 3 года назад
@@jennywithaglock3916 but I love her dramatic reactions tho....
@jennywithaglock3916
@jennywithaglock3916 3 года назад
@@queeniee9800 cant read that tone from what u wrote tbh the fullstop aint helpin, just a misunderstanding ig
@Simpie32
@Simpie32 3 года назад
@@jennywithaglock3916 kinda funny how you blame her for how she phrased it instead of just saying sorry or something similar for jumping to conclusions 😂
@jennywithaglock3916
@jennywithaglock3916 3 года назад
@@Simpie32 just trying to explain that tone cant be read through text and the lack of any emotion really does read cold
@promontorium
@promontorium 3 года назад
I don't understand why questions about him molesting his sister would be considered "control questions" sounds like bullshit but even the narrator is buying it. How could something so serious, emotionally charged, and actionable be a control question? Shouldn't a control question be something like "Do you drive a car?"
@TheEnigma271
@TheEnigma271 3 года назад
I think they have to gauge your reactions to relatively harmless questions to uncomfortable ones. That’s my best guess I don’t know anything about lie detectors 😂
@carolinedelafuente7251
@carolinedelafuente7251 3 года назад
It was literally explained in the video wth
@promontorium
@promontorium 3 года назад
@@carolinedelafuente7251 It was "explained" but it's bullshit. There is no definition of control where those questions make sense. They are questions about 50 years in the past that aren't even established to have actually occurred. You can't draw any logical conclusion from his answers because you don't even know what the questions imply. My theory is they included them not a "control" questions but either to trick him into confessing, or to intentionally get him upset and off kilter. Understand this was a bad cop maliciously framing an innocent man for murder, so don't even dare claim he was going by the book.
@Rimuru_Tempest_-
@Rimuru_Tempest_- 3 года назад
@@carolinedelafuente7251 That was not the truth tho, they were most likely trying to make him look bad. It was a lose lose situation. Whether or not he did it, that is something else entirely.
@carolinedelafuente7251
@carolinedelafuente7251 3 года назад
@@Rimuru_Tempest_- ???? I just said it was explained in the video. Whether they're trying to make him confess or look bad doesn't matter in the question that was asked
@ffvgaming3735
@ffvgaming3735 3 года назад
Could he have paid someone to make that call in his name as a cover up? Or was he visibly identified making the call
@maxkrepps9474
@maxkrepps9474 3 года назад
This is possible, however I think it is circumstantial (I'm not sure, I'm not a law expert); unless the person he would've paid were caught or something, which is basically impossible. So if this were to be brought up in court I think it would just be objected upon.
@chappie3642
@chappie3642 3 года назад
It kinda feels like whishful thinking, I mean so many things could be overlooked in theorical "what ifs" scenarios, but unless there's substantial evidence backing them up they can't be taken into consideration when this results in such important decisions
@tortillachips3911
@tortillachips3911 Год назад
i mean. i dont think the evidence in general was enough for a conviction, but i DEFINITELY dont think the phone call proved his innocence
@captainpandabear1422
@captainpandabear1422 3 месяца назад
"Shut up, here's your like" is about how I felt about the video, too xD
@Duriel92
@Duriel92 3 года назад
To me it feels like he had an accomplice which is probably the guy he's throwing under the boss saying he was talking about sex, the accomplice abducted maria, Tessier sexually assaulted her since he was a sexual deviant attracted to young girls proven by molesting his sister and being weird around his neighborhood, accomplice killed her and hid the body, that's why on the lie detector he was speaking truth when asked did you kill maria. Also, he didn't want to be asked personal questions because he probably didn't want to be asked anything related to his missing daughter which he's most likely the culprit. A mother would never lie and say on her death bed 40 years later oh yeah that girl, it's totally john that did it if she wasnt 100% sure of it
@yamikagevg7841
@yamikagevg7841 2 года назад
Thats exactly what I was thinking (I know this reply comes late, but I had to say it lol)
@tortillachips3911
@tortillachips3911 Год назад
Also the phone call document... Not sure it's as strong proof as the narrator made it seem
@jasquerotte9151
@jasquerotte9151 Год назад
It makes me sad, how far even the most qualified people will go to fit their own narrative
@Tkdriverx
@Tkdriverx 3 года назад
Anybody else notice the original video uploaded April 1st, and thought it was going to be a joke video?
@JasperForge
@JasperForge 3 года назад
it essentially was though
@tekary5285
@tekary5285 3 года назад
I watched it right when it got uploaded and the plot twist still got me
@dandresito
@dandresito Год назад
I think that you can’t move in a polygraph test because any disruption will fuck up the test
@prym7588
@prym7588 3 года назад
Watching(listening) in silence and then Valkyrae talks me: ei forgot you were here, LOL
@maal5643
@maal5643 Год назад
This case first time i saw it open my eyes to not jump to conclusion.
@Zexir001
@Zexir001 3 года назад
What if it wasn't John that make the collect call but someone else for him and the neighbors didn't see him or notice it was him. Idk
@evanmcc99
@evanmcc99 3 года назад
Both or kind of unlikely because he was at the recruitment center all day and the manager confirmed that it was him that made the collect call to his dad. The neighbors also would have probably would have taken notice of him because that’s how neighbors were back then. If anything the person who did this more then likely didn’t live anywhere near them.
@c2shifty368
@c2shifty368 3 года назад
So someone else came to Rockford at the recruitment center to make a call for him to his family for 2 minutes? And what neighbors he’s not even in the same town lol
@evanmcc99
@evanmcc99 3 года назад
@@c2shifty368 it’s doesn’t help that you literally couldn’t coordinate such a abduction like that back then. In Rockford back in then it was about a 40-50 minute drive just to get to the town. It also doesn’t help that you can’t prepare to abduct a girl when she plays outside at literally anytime of the day which makes planning very difficult.
@c2shifty368
@c2shifty368 3 года назад
@@evanmcc99 and they probably didn’t find the man because they only looked at people with the name or nickname Johnny why would the kidnapper say his name knowing he’s only taking 1 and leaving the other alive?
@evanmcc99
@evanmcc99 3 года назад
@@c2shifty368 the nickname Johnny wasn’t the primary focus. Their basis for culprits revolves around the description that the other girl gave them. They produced several dozen pictures for her to identify and she identified at least twelve. The problem is that everyone she identified had a alibi or turned out to be a dead end. For all we know the description she gave wasn’t even accurate.
@Polydueces
@Polydueces Год назад
This video (by Matt Orchard) is literally my favorite RU-vid video. Love seeing people react to this!
@nil4384
@nil4384 3 года назад
I hate the fact that he lived a long life
@benpayne1899
@benpayne1899 3 года назад
He was innocent, why do you hate the fact he lived his rightful long life? Nothing is proven about any of his supposed illegal acts and therefore he should be allowed the live his life
@imapimp212
@imapimp212 3 года назад
@@benpayne1899 he touched his sister
@benpayne1899
@benpayne1899 3 года назад
@@imapimp212 I’d agree with you if we knew that to be true. No evidence other than the word of a sister who hates him, possibly for being molested by him possibly not. You can’t say it with confidence and therefore you assume innocent until proven guilty.
@nil4384
@nil4384 3 года назад
@@benpayne1899 he was already caught off guard even you can already tell that he's guilty during interrogation he was very cautious about the questions being asked. I'm just not satisfied about the train ticket explanation, things should be complicated back then the technology was not yet advanced.
@goldengoat9660
@goldengoat9660 3 года назад
@@imapimp212 According to who? The only statements we have of that is from his sisters, who clearly have some sort of distain towards him, evident by them not allowing him to go to his mother's funeral. We have no clue what happened between him and his family. Why do you think his sister are more credible than he is? Is it because he is annoyed and standoffish while being wrongly investigated for a crime that was physically impossible for him to commit and completely cleared of 50 years ago while being targeted by police? I'm not saying he didn't but there is no credible evidence that suggests he did.
@A-RedHerring
@A-RedHerring Год назад
How she was acting is a perfect example of mob justice behavior influenced by confirmation bias. Pretty sad because this is how TOO MANY innocent men get locked up.
@iammicah895
@iammicah895 Год назад
Yup
@GhostOfAkina99
@GhostOfAkina99 3 года назад
when he talks about the grade school he lived near towards the start of the video, you'd be surprised at how valuable that information is in context with the other evidence they have. MAPs (I'm using MAP as an acronym bc pedophilia is a broad spectrum ranging in ages) will often live near schools, daycares and afterschool program places to be closer to their favoured age range to make themselves feel more comfortable.
@FallenSkater1940
@FallenSkater1940 3 года назад
what is a MAP?
@white_r_i_c_e_7389
@white_r_i_c_e_7389 3 года назад
@@FallenSkater1940 it’s an acronym for “minor attracted person.” It’s like a nicer way of saying pedophile, it’s often how they personally refer to themselves that way it feels less disgusting and more like a preference
@Scandium_quasar
@Scandium_quasar 3 года назад
Just say pedophile... never ever use "map", it's used between pedophiles and in pedophile communities (which are awful and shouldn't exist) because most others don't know the term. Also, how on earth does "map" not include the exact same broad age range and mean the exact same thing as pedophile???? You can literally use them interchangeably, stop bullshitting, DON'T use the word "map", people will think you are a pedophile, like I am currently.
@FallenSkater1940
@FallenSkater1940 3 года назад
@@Scandium_quasar on the other hand, if you come across someone using sex offender slang it would be easier to identify and avoid them. the originally commenter pretty much just outed themselves as a creep, for example.
@emmiebeee123
@emmiebeee123 3 года назад
"pedophilia is a broad spectrum ranging in ages"? Yeah, ages below the legal age aka minors. its a term used by pedophiles to "justify" being pedophiles. Its a disgusting attempt at normalizing and "destigmatizing" pedophilia and is being used amoungst pedophiles, many of whom claim it is a sexuality, which is not only insulting towards the LGBTQ+ community, but also extremely damaging to the community. DO NOT use the term MAP since it only benefits and validates pedophiles, and will make it seem like you are one. I hope you only used this term because you are uneducated about it and its implications, but if you in anyway subscribe to ANYTHING this term stands for I urge you reevaluate your beliefs and if you need to, get help.
@sortfaar3
@sortfaar3 3 года назад
john: "it is none of your business, it has nothing to do with maria" in video CC: music
@ekLuca
@ekLuca 3 года назад
I love that i dont have to whatch these alone anymore :D
@spitfirerat
@spitfirerat 3 года назад
Dude, the fact that his mom LIED about him being home the entire time even though he had a valid alibi is hella sus it's like she knew something... Like maybe the fact that he was molesting his sisters...
@eternalJay10
@eternalJay10 Год назад
I feel like he seemed innocent for the entire interrogation.... I guess I wasn't seeing what everyone else was seeing.
@caleb2730
@caleb2730 3 года назад
Love these! ❤️❤️❤️
@ylagkamiy1824
@ylagkamiy1824 2 года назад
Valk needs to understand the reason he says IDK is not just cause he tryna hide lies but even if we was tryna be truthful.. it was 50 whole ass years
@elicruze7188
@elicruze7188 3 года назад
Not going to lie it’s reeeeeally hard to believe he’s innocent.
@elicruze7188
@elicruze7188 3 года назад
@@Krobluv1172 I know it’s just too weird. I feel like a piece of the puzzle never came to light.
@yamikagevg7841
@yamikagevg7841 2 года назад
@@elicruze7188 Maybe he had an accomplice? Thats the only thing that came to my mind. Someone that made the call from Rockford after getting notified by him and gave his name. Or someone that abducted Maria when he was in Rockford and then he came back and did whatever sick things did to her, but after that the accomplice killed the girl and thats why he is so confident that he wont get caught lying about himself abducting or killing the girl
@kuroro4958
@kuroro4958 2 года назад
not me trying to turn off the captions and realizing its embedded in the video kzjsbaskf
@TehShadowDeath
@TehShadowDeath 3 года назад
"He got away with it for so long" - Rae "He won't when he's in prison" - Me
@arneshsengupta4636
@arneshsengupta4636 3 года назад
hes innocent
@Gcor239
@Gcor239 2 года назад
I was just thinking right before the end, it doesn’t actually seem like there’s enough evidence to have convinced this guy.
@justinprepodnik3881
@justinprepodnik3881 3 года назад
I'm glad he took the taste test.
@okay4425
@okay4425 2 года назад
*it’s sad that the only person who actually knows who killed maria is maria and her killer.*
@timberlord1637
@timberlord1637 3 года назад
So basically his sisters orchestrated this whole thing, lying about their mother saying that huh. Its quite obvious his mom would not have said that because his father and mother would clearly be in the know about WHY he is innocent more than their two young daughters who probably didnt even know what was happening back then.
@Evankinch89
@Evankinch89 2 года назад
He said he was at the induction center but the mom said he was home all day
@RagnarokPKXD
@RagnarokPKXD 3 года назад
This video needs to show twitch chat
@PleaseGameEndUs
@PleaseGameEndUs 3 года назад
Valkyrae streams on RU-vid. As far as I'm aware, RU-vid's chat cannot be downloaded like Twitch's.
@ju1yyy
@ju1yyy Год назад
bro knowing that such horrid people live in the same city as you is actually terrifying 😭
@alexbarton666
@alexbarton666 2 года назад
I was watching this all the way through, thinking he'd done it, however he shouldn't have been convicted because all of the evidence was circumstantial. I'm surprised to see he was innocent but still this was a complete failure of justice and it was ridiculous he was convicted.
@tortillachips3911
@tortillachips3911 Год назад
circumstantial evidence can get a conviction. that its not enough to convict is a myth
@thenameznika4270
@thenameznika4270 2 года назад
When they said “Johnny” I screamed “ HERES JOHNNY”
@BABY..MARS..
@BABY..MARS.. 3 года назад
They way he interrupted is a clear sign of a guilty Conscience bc I would do that when I would still cookies from the cookie jar when I was younger. My late father would do that when he would fight with my mom about money. It helps stop the point of the conversation
@Metal-and-Mythos
@Metal-and-Mythos 3 года назад
“What is 3+3-2” This dude for some reason “1”
@alexiscortez525
@alexiscortez525 3 года назад
3-2=1 then he added the 3 hahaha
@cxrindgo
@cxrindgo 3 года назад
he may be totally innocent of that crime, but i need to know how they confirmed it was him that made the phone call, as opposed to a partner-in-crime who shared the information with him after the fact/helped him get an alibi. it might be a stretch, but i am curious if they ruled that out as an impossibility
@MindozaGaming
@MindozaGaming 3 года назад
Anyone during 1957 could have named themselves Johhny when making a collection call. The call is recorded, not the physical appearance of the person makin said call.
@maxkrepps9474
@maxkrepps9474 3 года назад
I wish this video had the whole interview but I feel like its a stretch. See, if he went to the trouble of making this alibi, would it not make sense that he would bring this up a lot in the interview? If I had seen the whole interview, maybe this could have slightly more substance, however its still very "what if"
@omenka8389
@omenka8389 2 года назад
@@MindozaGaming he was identified as John Tessier tho, plus he literally talked to his dad so y would his dad not say something if he ddint recognize his own sons voice? also, the crime feels very much like a crime of opportunity rather than a planned crime, and therefore would have been very difficult if not impossible to pull off in the 50s
@tortillachips3911
@tortillachips3911 Год назад
​@@maxkrepps9474he did bring it up in the interview. the narrator said he cut it out originally to make him look more guilty for dramatic effect. he includes a clip of it near the very end
@maxkrepps9474
@maxkrepps9474 Год назад
@@tortillachips3911 ah
@dylancowan2075
@dylancowan2075 3 года назад
imagine finding out your dad/grandpa kidnapped and killed someone before you were born 😳
@caliadams6352
@caliadams6352 3 года назад
ok so i’m probably the only person that thought “this dude seems innocent” only about the murder tho but for some reason i just saw him and just thought nope i don’t think he killed Maria even through all the evidence.
@maxkrepps9474
@maxkrepps9474 3 года назад
yeah, when I first saw this I thought at the start of the interview that he sounded innocent, however at some point I think I thought the narrator must've known something we didn't know so I started to believe him; after all this was the first time i'd heard of the case.
@Lolu-z6z
@Lolu-z6z 2 года назад
yea same...i mean how can someone remember a shit that you didnt even do and also the interrogators were 100% sure about him being the murderer so like they would obviously ask indirectly about him killing and and thinking that he would remember such thing cause its a very unique and trauma thing happening long time ago but he was not sure of certain stuff that made the interrogator and valkyrae that he is the murderer...at first by the story and rae's reaction convinced me that he is the murderer but slowly i was doubting that he is innocent.
@Rtd-df2md
@Rtd-df2md Год назад
while i understand the message that the video was trying to give, it feels like the equivalent of your long time doctor telling you that you have lung cancer, continuing on about the possible symptoms, treatments, and measures that you can take for the next hour, and then right before you walk out of the office, the doctor laughs and goes, "April Fools! Man, I really got you. You really just believed the diagnosis of a doctor? What a fool!" i watch these true crime videos to learn about a situation that I would otherwise have no interest in researching. I want to look at a channel like this, see the positive reception, and think "Cool, someone that knows more about this stuff than I do. Time to listen in to some interesting cases." and not "Cool, someone who thinks he knows more than I do. I'm going to personally scrutinize and research every stated sentence to ensure that this video is 100% accurate."
@Michael-cq7lq
@Michael-cq7lq 3 года назад
Valkyrae, you're awesome! I love it when you say "we didn't ask that" or so many of your other funny comments, like how you want to punch that person and so on. Love your reactions. I feel the same way.
@chilipepper9176
@chilipepper9176 3 года назад
He was innocent, watch the video.
@justlimonika
@justlimonika 2 года назад
26:28
@nobodynowhere8061
@nobodynowhere8061 Год назад
Craziest plot twist when they said bro was innocent
@salc325
@salc325 3 года назад
I was having a feeling that this guy was not a murderer but i was not sure why. did this happen to anyone else?
@izs6946
@izs6946 3 года назад
JCS already described someone who is innocent, and he's exhibited mostly those traits. Like direct answers, annoyed at the police, etc. The only thing he didn't do (and I don't blame him for it) is that he should've called a lawyer at the very second that he felt that he's being suspected.
@zaydee7566
@zaydee7566 3 года назад
55:46 it looks like Rae is the judge from where her camera and the table is
@DasaniDragon
@DasaniDragon 2 года назад
You have to take everything the criminals say with a grain of salt. They could be lying or they could be telling the truth. I do like how the narrator simplifies things or explains other things. Another thing is that I never fully judge them until the end of the video.
@1st-Le-On
@1st-Le-On 2 года назад
23:21 pretty much sums up watching a video of somone watching a video
@rekovaltoponealpha1447
@rekovaltoponealpha1447 3 года назад
loners: "Rae despises Johnny for no reason." Rae: "johnny makes bad things to her step-siblings" sigma males: "nah, you are just covering yourself from your mistake."
@LinKubPin
@LinKubPin 3 года назад
what does this even mean
@theleathersword4043
@theleathersword4043 3 года назад
Errrrr, I'm confused, what does this mean
@ezradelosil6922
@ezradelosil6922 2 года назад
@@LinKubPin it's a meme relax
@starvegeo
@starvegeo Год назад
33:15 the thing he is asking is this, he doesnt get what does yes mean because it would mean *Yes i have,* or *Yes i havent* thinking that they are trying to trap him to confess to something. No one seemed to get it though.
@thedevil-em6ge
@thedevil-em6ge 3 года назад
okay but maybe he called his friend so that his freind would kidnap her and Idk maybe they should investigate the guy he called
@isaiahpatton5558
@isaiahpatton5558 2 года назад
A phone call really saved his life
@ajupeach
@ajupeach 3 года назад
idk i still feel like he is still somehow involved. like he had a partner. the partner could’ve just used his name & the call could’ve been made so it can be like a distraction & a good alibi. like what a coincidence that they used johns name & used something that he had already done to another girl to maria. he also remembered specifically what maria looked like after so many years but couldn’t remember if he took the train or not. he did mention about the other weird kid & when the detective asked how he knew he was weird, he didn’t know how to answer so it could be that he actually knew him & that was his partner.
@omenka8389
@omenka8389 2 года назад
he was identified as John Tessier tho, plus he literally talked to his dad so y would his dad not say something if he ddint recognize his own sons voice? also, the crime feels very much like a crime of opportunity rather than a planned crime, and therefore would have been very difficult if not impossible to pull off in the 50s
@efrainlagunas
@efrainlagunas 2 года назад
it speaks volumes that before it was even confirmed he was the killer and is actually innocent of this crime, she already judged him as such. I just wonder how many of her chat also just rode the bandwagon and condemned a man for a crime he didn't do just because it was told through a lens that was crafted to do so. The man should've been trailed for the harassments on his sister's and such but, this proves it, jail time for crime done is irrelevant if you can spin it the right way.
@goonerboonernoah
@goonerboonernoah 3 года назад
So his mom really lied abt it and he was telling the truth “My mom loved me and would never say that”. Jokes on him his mum lied abt him
@cascadianroots
@cascadianroots 3 года назад
Rae mentioning Boze... That's a crossover episode I need to see! 💕🙏🏼
@God-hm5dt
@God-hm5dt 3 года назад
He may be innocent in the eyes of the law but he's certainly isn't in the eyes of the people.
@fe1jo628
@fe1jo628 2 года назад
That's why not everyone is an investigator/judge.
@brynion2117
@brynion2117 2 года назад
so you are saying the people are stupid?anyone who holds him accountable for murder is braindead
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