This movie is a real tearjerker! I remember seeing this scene as a kid and starting to cry because Tony was stuck in a wheelchair and the song was so sad! They made me feel the melancholy and his tragic ending. I found out that the Actor who played Tony is still alive and ran a successful business and is retired. So that makes me feel a little better.
This movie was not camp. It was a melodrama at best and wasn’t much different then most movies made in the mid to late sixties. The film & journalists critics had it out for Jacqueline Susann. She was an overnight sensation. I believe the criticism was born out of pure jealousy.
I agree. Patty did an amazing job in this film. The critics tore the movie & Patty’s performance apart. But it was a box office success. It made more money then Rosemary’s Baby, Oliver, Bullet and Romeo & Juliet. Obviously people paid no attention to the critics.
That's such a sweet song. 😊 I remember seeing this in my early teens and other great epic classics like Summer Place, Splender In The Grass, and Payton Place with my parents and sisters.
YES! It introduced me to a disease I never knew existed. I've only seen "Valley of the Dolls" once. It was at the movies.😔💔😭 Thought of this song this morning.
me too!! Like I like Tony's solo version but I feel like the somber tone of this one, mixed with the male and female vocals not only let you focus on the lyrics more, but also paint a really beautiful picture of a couple's desperate love for one another despite the circumstances they're in, which really makes me think of Tony and Jenn (and is also why this version always makes me start balling like a damn baby haha)
What a cynical song! It is quite beautiful to listen to though. " Love is a flower that lasts for an hour and then Withers and dies, where is the prize.... Darling I never would want you forever to stay.... Come live with me and be my love if only for a day."
I get why people call this campy, “love is a flower that lasts for an hour...” what cheese ball lyrics, plus Tony wheeling himself out on the floor, his mind struggling to find the lyrics in his Greek Tragedy required deteriorating mind, the overzealous nurse [Ratchet] trying to stop him but one of the doctors/orderlies waves her off, “No, let them have their fun, they’re locked-down, 1960’s mental patients.” (You know when they still performed shock treatments and lobotomies) Plus this is the tune Lounge Lizard Tony sang to successfully get into Jennifer’s pants (Sharon Tate’s character). Full camp, like ‘Austin Powers, International Man of Mystery.’ “Yeah, Baby!”
@@HasinaiMan evidently the paying public didn’t care what Hollywood or the film critics thought. VOD was a box office success. It made more money then Rosemary’s Baby, Bullet, Oliver, and Romeo & Juliet. I never thought of this movie as camp. It was no different then most movies made in the mid to late sixties. It was a melodrama with several moving dramatic scenes.
@@HasinaiMan Electroconvulsive therapy (ECT, or as you refer to it as "shock treatments"), is still performed today. It can effect incredibly positive outcomes for those suffering from treatment resistant depression.
This movie is sad and tragic because Sharon Tate was murdered shortly afterward and lost her baby as well. She was so beautiful and didn’t deserve her hideous fate. Thanks to Manson and his Family of Maniacs!
That’s what’s so great about Quentin Tarantino’s, ‘Once Upon a Time in Hollywood,’ It employs our collective imagination as to how the maniacal Manson Family/Sharon Tate saga could have had a different outcome. I especially loved how Brad Pitt’s character, Booth, dealt with the Manson troop in his encounter with them at Spahn Movie Ranch, “high-larious hijinks fer shure, Dude!” lol
Can you believe the meaness here? Neely and Tony were so therapeutic for each other. Then the nurse just coldly whisks him off while she's trying to talk to him.
Right? And that nurse is very frightening with her face a blur and that strange way she twists her head to the side...I think she likes to keep tony to herself.
Its not about thinking , but about knowing. When he finished singing , he went back to his world, dementia or worse. The nurse knew what she was doing, the song hit a nerve in him which probably,will never be hit again. O the nerve was helped by someone he knew singing it. You can look at the film slow motion and see , he was hit.
I cry every time I hear then sing this song....one of my favorite movies "Valley of the Dolls" 1967..my first love took me to the movie to watch it...we were so in love & it is still perfect for us (1st yr in College and it snowed that day..it was such a beautiful day I'll always hold dear to my heart. Love's kinda funny that way "lifetime lovers"...sad bitter-sweet movie for lovers, like us. Gosh it was GREAT!!!
David Ayre Exactly! You could be on top of the World one day rich or famous! Enjoying yourself riding around in a Ferrari and then Bang! God Forbid, you find out you have MD or Lou Gehrig’s Disease and your body is rapidly deteriorating. And you lose the use of your hands and legs! God Forbid but this does happen to people. And then in next to no time you could be confined to a wheelchair. And you live out your days staring out some hospital window. Terrible! Life can be so tragic and it’s more fragile than we think!
In real life , the actor "tony scotti" went into private business and investments with his brother , and made millions of millions of dollars forming at first a record company then expanding it into a television syndication as well , he is still alive and married at 77 , he really made a lot of movie going into business with his brother
Paul Cimino Wow! Thanks for the update! I’m glad he’s alive and has a successful life. The scene he was in always made me cry it was so sad. But I’m glad his real life is nothing like his in the film!
well, I’m living out that song. And it’s still painful even if you can do it which I have. Why not many covers? Perhaps someone knows how painful it is to try to actually live those lyrics.
people do it all the time , at that point she ditched him , her success had gone 2 her head , sometimes we do awful things 2 people , without thinking , then are conciense gets the best of us and we feel bad or we then over compensate by being extra nice 2 them , 2 failed marriage 's and a sanitarium visit i think knocked nelly ' o hara down a few pegs , what she did to her first husband was just cruel , he stood by her every step of the way , and when watching this movie people have 2 remember this was 1967 , there were not 100 news channels , no entertainment shows , no cell phones , people got there juicy headlines from a 5 or 10 minute or newspaper article from rona barrett or barbara walters and divorce was still considered scandoulous , i know there R A few spelling errors sorry , thanks 4 reading it.....
Truly a poignant scene, but God forgive me, why does Neely at the end (when the audience is clapping) remind me of Baby Jane doing her last performance for the public on the beach? No matter where you are, or what the circumstances, you are a professional and must be ready to perform! :D
And in the next scene, Neely quips,"Yeah, I saw Tony there. It was So camp!" All time classic bad bad bad wonderfully sick film, with some good (and bad) songs.
...this scene holds a LOT of referencing; prior (in the Movie), Neely was trying to dodge Tony, when she thought he was '..gonna put the bite on her...', for work... Neely also was letting fame (AND 'Dolls') go to her head...HERE, when she sings with Tony, she's starting to realize that he actually is ILL, and, 'connects' with him, again, by way of their 'talents' (Helen Lawson says it later in the flick; '...Nothing can take away her talent...' (cont.) ...This scene (albeit, laughably planned out wrong) was to show a Friend is in NEED, and she's actually feeling EMPATHY, which is to indicate she's, ummm, '...not too far gone..', so to speak... (2:11)...
I never see this scene when I don't think of Mad Magazine's parody of "Valley of the Dolls". After filming this scene, Jack Valenti, the real-life president of the Motion Picture Association of America steps in and tells the reader that they've just witnessed the most tacky and tasteless scene in motion picture history..... then he compliments them on it by saying "Keep up the good work!" LOL
Hollywood wasn’t happy about a movie that exposed the underbelly of drug abuse in its exclusive community. Jacqueline Susann was the target of both Journalists & film critics. But both the book & the film were extremely successful.
When I saw this years and years ago I was so impacted by the sentimentality of this song. It had this impact on me. Later I found this special love dot-dot-dot I was susceptible to the believing in love. Will later I was able to receive the gift. The love of my life cultured educated with a heart of gold handsome with that European Debonair quality six-foot- 1 he had that demeanor of when a movie star like that of the 40s his sense of self with Elegance and male prowess at the same time. Every morning I woke up and I thank God for this beautiful man that I had married for 20 years a true Prince and so when I see this timeline RU-vid clip from the movie Valley of the Dolls where she sings come live with me and be my love as long as I live Beautiful except from the movie Valley of the Dolls it takes me back to a time where I did have that aspiration to find the ultimate love not just any love but the higher that was meant for just for you College you know that should have said belonging that you would recognize your love when you met him it happened to me. And I told him that I dreamed of him before I met him and I dedicated a p o e m to my love and read it to him. and then one day maybe I will publish it, he smiled and kissed me and I remember exactly the spot in our living room where he did it's like the holy grail for me every time I pass it. In my living room right before the front door.
I think it's unintentionally hilarious - this movie is a cult favorite - the other funny scene is when Patty pulls off Susan Hayward's wig and flushes it down the toilet (also not really supposed to be funny, it's supposed to be sad because Susan Hayward's character had white hair she was trying to hide) - Both scenes are supposed to evoke sympathy not humor ~ but life is short so laugh it up.
Most films of 1967 did not depict the inside of a Sanatorium. Just showing scenes of what took place for those who were addicted to drugs was revolutionary. I remember the first time I saw this scene and it was very emotional. I never thought of it as camp or funny.
