not true nora and mary were in love beou and valarie were close friends malcolm seemed to be liked by everyone (except oscar who was not present) valarie and oscar were friends despite her killing him
So happy we get more of this concept with Lizzie finally becoming a heretic. I wish more of them lived and more of their stories were explored but I’ll take what I can get and I have been waiting for Lizzie the heretic for a while. It would be cool if Valerie would make a Legacies cameo as she is the only original heretic left and the only known heretic alive in this world besides newly undead Lizzie. She probably won’t as most of the actors from the other shows have stayed away but it is cool to think about. I guess there is fanfiction for that.
I think Mary Louise and Nora had the best story and they could’ve continued in the show, maybe they moved to a different state and are using their magic to fight for LGBTQ+ rights or something? Would’ve been cool to see
@@theronhutchings6962 She must be from Rebekah's line because all the originals died at least once and Rebekah is the only one who's never been killed so I guess if Valerie is still wanted it's by Rebekah's line
@@brendathm Both Klaus and Rebekah's lines are still intact (as shown with Caroline and Aurora being in Legacies). Klaus's death had no effect on his sire lines since his ties with it were severed by Davina.
Now imagine a siphoner and a werewolf having a child. This child would grow to be a siphoner with a dormant wolf curse, then he dies with hope's blood in his system only to wake up in transition, he kills for the first time and completes the transition, awakening his wolf side and then baam, A siphoner witch, vampire, werewolf tribrid was born
I hated Julian...not because he was so evil, he just seemed like a over the top version of Klaus.... Klaus would laugh at him tho before tearing his heart out
Silas’s powers the one about controlling minds and making illusion was not an innate one. That was the result of being immortal. As a witch he didn’t had this power
Exactly, that's technically possible, or to imagine a heretic like Val and Lizzie to get the serum, or how would be a true original heretic? They might be relative to Hope.
Silas didn’t have his psychic powers until he became an immortal. He was born a witch, or warlock as that term was used in s2 before being dropped. Witches r the servants of nature, vampires are in abomination to nature, Josette Parker said because they’re in the middle, Heretics are an aberration of nature. As for the actors, the one who plays Nora played Pansy Parkinson in Harry Potter Deathly Hallows 1 and 2. For Beau, he was in Netflix MCU Luke Cage s1.
well, there may be some truth to Silas being both psychic and Wiccan simultaneously; as Bonnie and Grams (indirectly) mentioned, all magic seems to be rooted in psychic energy, most notable when Bonnie expresses her angst over the loss of her powers (as a former Huntress), yet unwittingly creates her own dimension for Enzo, and further explains that when she first discovered her powers, she believed she was psychic, alluding to her premonitions of the numbers she foresaw in Season 1. I know this wasn’t about Bonnie 😅 but I wanted to just pitch in.. #I💕TVDToo..😂
I was just thinking the same while I was watching this he wasn't born with those powers he only got the after he and the witch he betrayed made the immortality spell and stole it took drink with his true love imara, it was the only reason the other witch was able to over power him because the physic powers where to new and he didn't know he had them let alone use them he honed those skills in the 2000 years he was locked up for by the dribbles of blood from people wishing to hear voices of people they love that have died.
Another great video! I so LOVE how you really pay attention to the shows and background information! Seriously the only channel that actually does this! (:
It’s why my videos take a little bit longer, I have to thoroughly check everything and make sure it’s scripted properly. Background information is key 🔑 thank you for such a nice comment ❤️
@@marvelstan_0114 no they could be born into other covens, its just that the gemini coven was the one they noticeably came from the most, especially siphoner twins, which in the covens case was a regular occurrence as they already had the gemini ritual in place.
It would be cool to see a merged heretic hence would have access to all the geminis coven secrets and spells... Probably would challenge dahlia or inadu or bonnie bennet or a mikaelson or even the tribrid
@@buterafirevocals8177 kai parker was a merged heretic but in a sense of just powers of her sister... what i want is two siphoners merge then later in life became a vampire witch
nah heretics 100 percent cant stand a chance against hope aka tribrid. hope isnt just a tribrid her vampire side is that of an original vampire plus wolf making her an original hybrid without magic. plus hope has the most magic capacity and raw power in tvdu. i bet a 100 heretics cant take on the tribrid
Lily when she got out of the prison world while not bloodlusted should of stayed in a place far from Humankind or most of them same applies to other Ripper Gened Vampires that want to protect Humans in general and or themselves yeah
This was an Incredible Video for The Heretics. Even though Season 7 of The Vampire Diaries is My Least Favorite The Vampire Diaries Season but The Heretic were Incredible. The Heretics are Basically The Originals Nora Hildegard (Freya Mikaelson) Malcolm (Finn) Beau (Elijah) Valerie Tulle (Niklaus Mikaelson) Oscar (Kol) Mary Louise (Rebekah Mikaelson)
there was something i was wondering about when i started watching vampire diaries, are mary and nora technically related? i figured they were since they were both from the gemini clan, so their relationship always seemed a little off putting.
One of the loopholes for The Heretics should have matched the Loophole that Klaus fell into. Since Hayley was a Werewolf even though Klaus was part-Vampire he could get her Pregnant. This should also have applied to The Heretics in that they should have been able to impregnate or be impregnated by a Witch.
Great video!! Are you the voice on another RU-vid channel?? Possibly like a Harry Potter one?? You’re voice is so soothing lol I feel like I’ve heard you narrate on another channel! Edit: omg are you Harry Potter folklore too?? I knew I’ve heard you before!!
I wonder: what if in the next TV Show, Josie has a child with some werewolf dude and the kid is both a siphoner and a werewolf, like Vivianne from the books. Then they are turned into a vampire by Hope. That would make the child a werewolf-witch-vampire tribrid. Right?
Just wondering, if heretics turn someone into a vampire, will that person become a heretic too?? Being siphoners, they must have siphoner's blood, not just dna alone. So if a person dies with heretic's blood containing siphoning powers, isit possible for a human who isnt a siphoner to turn into a heretic too instead of becoming just a vamp??
Has anyone else ever thought about how Nora and Mary Louise were both members of the Gemini coven… meaning, they were both members of the same family of witches. Meaning their relationship was incestuous.💀
They aren’t all indirectly related because kai or someone would have said something about it if that was the case I imagine there are multiple families in the coven
The writing of TVD and Legacies became wasted potential. They could’ve done a origin story of the merge, more storyline’s with new/other heretics or anything else than walking pile of mud…
Father was born a 'Warlock', his mother and Aunt Dhalia being two of the most powerful witches in history... Klauses real absentee father was a Werewolf, so unbeknownst to Klaus he triggered the Werewolf curse when killing a person. Later on he, along with his siblings became the first and only known Original Vampires through a magic spell their mother did to 'save' her children...Through that Klaus became the first Hybrid in existence, Vampire and Werewolf, containing all their strengths but none of their weaknesses. Another trait his Werewolf side provided is that unbeknownst to him or anyone else, it allowed him to have children where Vampires (including Originals) cannot reproduce. Hopes mother, Hailie, was also a Werewolf (idk if Klaus could only get other Werewolves pregnant, i dont know how else he would of gone through 1000's of years without other children prior to screwing Hailie otherwise) which was a member of an old, near extinct, powerful pack of werewolves called 'The Crescents'. When Hope was born, her genetics allowed the dormant magic in Klauses family line to be active inside her, making her born a witch first, as well as having the Werewolf curse so when she killed a person it would activate. She was also the first person to ever be born a Vampire thanks to Klause being the first Hybrid (original vampire and Werewolf). If I remember correctly, she had to die to activate her Vampire side. Hope has the ability to turn other vampires and werewolves (maybe just werewolves) into Hybrids... but only her magical lineage and the fact her father is an original Vampire aswell as the original hybrid, allows all 3 of her parents lineage to manifest in one being. She has the power and abilities of an Original Vampire, which include her own sire line, immunity to sun light, wooden stakes, having heart ripped out, and immune to compulsion (i dont know if she can compel an original, im assuming not). Since she's a 'Tribrid' and has all the same powers and ability of an Original Vampire but was instead born that way and not created through magic, that allows her to be unaffected by the 'White Oak' stake, unlike the other Original Vampires. She also has all the power and strength of a Werewolf, with the ability to change at will after her first transition, the added benefit of being immune to silver, can't kill her by ripping her heart out, Werewolf venom obviously doesn't affect her like other Vampires, and like Klaus, her blood is also cures other Vampires infected with Werewolf venom. She's not only got the added strength of being a hybrid like we see with Klaus, but the magical ability of arguably the strongest known lineage of witches and warlocks on her grandmothers side.. Which include her Grandmother, Great Aunt Dhalia, and her Aunt Freya, who were are all extremely powerful witches So the only difference between her and Klaus who was the original hybrid, is that she maintained her magical abilities instead of losing them like Vampires, including Originals, but shes also immune to White Oak...The only known weakness that can kill her is Red Oak, which she destroyed one, but there is another floating around that Lizzy and potentially a few others know about it's existence, as well as it's location. I don't even know if the cure for Vampirism will work on a Tribrid, I'm kind of assuming it will since it can on the Originals, as well as a Hybrid.. but there's only a very small amount in existence, Damien and Alaina already took some, and we all know some more of it is going to Rebekah once she decides the time was right, her plan was to take it so she could live out the rest of her years as a mortal, with children (Marcel gonna have to let her shack up with someone else lol) and husband, Marcel. If there's no other cure in existence, more can't be produced, and the fact only Hope and her friends (who view her as family) know of her weakness to Red Oak, then I imagine no one else will ever know of the way to kill her, so more than likely, she'll never die... With her humanity restored and her friends only living normal mortal lifespans, plus the fact no one else will ever know of her weakness, I wonder if they'll give Hope the Red Oak stake so that when she's ready, she can rejoin her mother, father, and the rest of her family in death.. Or will Aleric pass down the Red Oak, along with it's usage incase Hope ever shuts off her humanity again but unlike the first time, there's no one or anything with the ability to bring her humanity back? It honestly wouldn't surprise me if he did do that, but it also wouldn't shock me if he ended up giving it to her. He as well as Hope know that at some point in her life, she's going to want to use it... Anyway, that pretty much sums it up, I may be missing a few tidbits of information but that pretty well covers her lore, as well as her abilities and sole weakness.
She’s not a Heretic, she’s a witch vampire hybrid, like Kai was and he wasn’t a Heretic, the Heretics where a group and didn’t add any more members since Valerie’s the last one
@@deadpooldan9862 Lizzie is a heretic. It dosen't matter if it's a group or not. A heretic is just a witch/vampire hybrid. Since Lizzie is a with/vampire hybrid, she is considered a heretic.
@@Aaron-um7tl a heretic was a member of the heretics, not every witch/vampire hybrid, if it was then Kai would be a heretic, but he’s not considered one
@@deadpooldan9862 In Legacies they say Lizzie is a heretic, and in vampire diaries when kai fully transitioned i think they said he was now a heretic, so no, it dosen't matter if it's a "group".
probably my favorite bad guys of the series after kath and the original siblings, its a shame they were portrait so poorly and most of them died in just a few episodes :/ they had all the tools to be good characters but consider how some of them died in 1-2 eps OOOOF i just hate how they introduced the stupid vamp hunter mid season and basically took a turn
Looking back I find Beau to be a very controversial character being more of a servant who doesn’t have much personality and obviously No voice. Everyone else ventures off independently but he’s stuck in the shadows until he’s of use.
