Yeah no shit and like I’ve heard , they would be playing something like this and there would be 6 people in the whole fuckin place . I can’t wait for the invention of the Time Machine ! OK , let’s set our destination settings here .. OK. Let’s do the weather z, it’s a rainy Monday Night 10:0Opm. October. Late October the greater Los Angeles area . Hollywood. WEST Hollywood in the year 1977 at a place called the Starwood. Ok everybody , seat belts buckled. And T minus 5. , 4 , 3 , 2, 2, IGNITION !
I thought someone was out of tune, goofing around before the real take was to begin. Took me a minute to get my bearings. Lends a whole new appreciation to how their sound was crafted, like a few tints in a polychrome print creating an organic whole of high complexity.
Massive agree, He influenced me more as a rhythm player. His riffs were all top notch. Funny thing. I love Diver down as a Van Halen album. I know it's largely hated as a cover album but the playing on it by Eddie is so relaxed and he's clearly just jamming. His rhythm playing is just so comfortable and cool. Very good album IMHO. Luv and Peace.
The first time I saw Van Halen live in the 1980's, the next day Jim Dennis - the manager of the music store where I worked - asked me, "What did you notice?" I was a little overwhelmed by the question, but Jim said, "He is a GREAT rhythm player. He was always in tune, and always in time." So yeah, since then I have been aware of what a great rhythm player Eddie was.
Never ceases to amaze me how "in the pocket" Ed's rhythm parts sit - dude is always locked in. As exceptional and innovative as his lead work is, this is great hearing what a human metronome he is.
Actually: NOT a metronome (I realize that you meant that as a compliment, not a description, but: it is, indeed, inaccurate to the way that Ed played (as well as how the band played together!). Ed "swung" EVERYTHING!!!! EV-RY-THING! (even when you, as a listener, are NOT NOTICING it!)! This means that: he was never "solid gridded" (which has, now, become the ONLY standard!!!! 😡😡🤬 and the accepted idea of "perfection" 🙄🙄🤦🖕). His rhythms, melody lines, leads, everything he played!, swing! They are "just loose" in precisely the correct way. It is WHY their grooves are SO HARD and FEEL SO RIGHT! ...so: If you learn Ed, you will find that ALL of his parts are "the opposite of metronomic" - which, as most commenters have been saying: is one of the things which makes this band and these albums and their shows, SO, out-and-out, GREAT and induplicable! 🤘🤘 EVH 4E!🔥
Ed played musically, and nobody could play his fast Boogie feel so well as him like Im The One, Hang 'em High, Hot for Teacher, Sinners Swing - so cooking... You can play the notes but it's nis feel that makes it.
Here’s some more live in one room music, but it’s not a pro band unfortunately. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ZggXFKblZEE.htmlsi=cfqnxD4v24K1wfWn
Guess you haven’t listen to many albums. not to mention even back then, Van Halen, queen and what have you would lay down scratch tracks and then re-record everything. Don’t be a dinosaur
This could be the defying sound of how good VH were as a three piece band …this is the Brown Sound defined and simply unmatched playing live in a room just awesome. Please Alex open the Vaults. No Tribute Show then please give us more Music most of the Diehard VH Fans know the music exists and wants to hear it. Donate the proceeds to the American Cancer Society in Ed’s name.
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Listen closely, it's not layered tracks. Ed said in the beginning it was just him and Alex. That he had to fill up space. He's bouncing back and forth between the parts!
@@clemclemson9259 Really, "bro"? Because what's weird to me is that so many people don't demonstrate even the most basic high school writing skills which we all learned so that we could communicate effectively and not look like illiterate idiots.
I feel like Eddie died and left us with lots of surprise gifts that we're still unwrapping. This is so good and refreshing to hear. Ed's rhythm guitar is amazing and Mike and Al sound great too. Natural swing.
Eddie harmonized his chordings with the lead vocal melody. That’s why many considered them the new version of The Beach Boys, all being from SoCal. They were extremely melodic and incorporated a lot of harmonies. This is an amazing recording that fills in a lot of the mystery previously hidden with the vocals and production.
@@davemenard5089 I had to go search that. I’m with Wolfgang: disappointed because I’m a big fan of Steven Wilson. It’s not necessary to voice every opinion.
Rhythm Guitar 101. He was the best. The foundation is the most important part of a home and this is a SOLID foundation. I think it's the greatest rhythm track of that era.
Agreed. This rhythm riff is sooooo much fun to play. There are a ton of subtleties in there... it's definitely worth a "deep dive" for guitar nerds. Long live The Mighty Van Halen 🔥💪😎
No clicks, no protools, no quantization, no autotuning, nothing to fix any flaws and yet it still swings and is perfection. There is a difference in music today and the reason it all sounds the same.
You're telling me. I have a drummer from France record on my music, so i'll get a click with the count in so he feels where beat one, but both of us lock into the groove and do one take per part. Whether I'm doing a bass track, synth, or my rhythm tracks, I'll do each part in one take and not quantize that shit at all. Gotta keep the inherent groove, and it's there even when I'm locking into a drummer in person without a metronome. Some people dont have a good sense of groove, and clicks and quantization cant save them. Worked with a local drummer who could NOT lock into a groove what so ever, and it was brutal working with him
@@mirkomarkovic3438- click tracks were not in use in 1978 . That’s Edward just feelin the energy as it flows through him. Edward was an absolute genius
Hey people, there is no plate on VH1, it is the Sunset chamber. Also, the delay is on here…Ed used 1 or 2 EP-3s as a preamp into 12301. A 300ms slapback is present here.
This made my real music loving heart happy…a lot of junk on RU-vid but this stuff keeps me coming back with faith. Where’s the two thumb like button?!!
On the finished album this on the mixing desk was a fade out…Love the way here you get to hear it rounding off in the studio the way they used to do it LIVE.
Incredible! A testimony to their raw talent. Eddie's lead guitar playing is so incredible it's easy to overlook what a phenomenal rhythm player he was.
You can hear the rawness in the room!!! It’s really sad that Van Halen as a band is no more, but catalog will live forever!!! Privileged to have seen them 6 times live from 1984-2008.
Eddie Van Halen is the greatest hard rock guitarist of all time. This might be my favorite song by Van Halen. It`s off their first record which is by far their best in my opinion.
No opinion dude...its a FACT. Debut LP was by far their best AND the best debut ROCK album by ANY band since 1972 at least. Maybe the best of all time....
The Opening Drum Roll, just cuts open the Groove, and Eddie and Michael just Fill it up with Bounce, and a hit of Swing. Each Player in their Space.....the Sound is MORE than the sum of its Parts! VH is just Timeless!
This Sunset sound studio B..the big room..and the room sound was so tight! What a band! This is the effect of playing live hundreds of times, total confidence and their debut album!!
I was about 17 when I discovered Van Halen in Australia (first album so probably 1978). No one knew about them in my small town, at least until I told them. A lot of older players wrote Eddie off as "all flash" but these tracks prove how much groove and soul he had and not just him but the entire band. These were the days when bands were forged in the fire of a thousand gigs and it showed when they set up and played live in the studio. I hope the young bands of today can still do this. It's the key to greatness for a rock band for sure, as this recording proves. Love live EVH.
Thanks for posting this. I love hearing a raw recording of a great band. Just goes to show you that there's no studio tricks needed to make these guys sound kickass. They just did it all.
Dave's singing can over shadow the music, to hear the basic rhythm track, with no vocal and no overdubs really let's you hear the foundation of the song. And how the rhythm guitar complements the lead guitar and vocal in advance. So cool!!
It's really neat to hear how much of what Eddie plays in the completed mix was laid down in the rhythm track. I always thought there were a lot of overdubs to get the "layered" effect. And obviously the lead overdubs fit like a glove. Efficiency is the word, I suppose. Fantastic. It also goes to show that the whole album sounded very polished yet did not have to be overproduced! Alex and Michael pretty much sound like they do in the final version.
One night Roth and I were standing at the top of the stage stairs at the Starwood back in 1977 while Ed was playing Eruption. I said to Roth man that Ed sure can play. Roth laughs and say in that rough voice of his. Before I go to bed I read 4 hours of comic books but Ed he plays guitar another 12 hours before he goes to bed? Those club days we all know VH was going to be huge and it was a pleasure being around them.
I know that people call this metal but I'm not really sure there are so many different influences but they got everything going on in Van Halen from funk to disco to rock to remix of '50s rock songs shit they redid Roy Orbison they did dancing in the streets I think that was Martha and the vandals The man was a guitar genius but Michael Anthony with his high falsetto voice in the background and his goddamn base was just banging I love metal but I don't really categorize them as actual metal there's something else they're I don't even know what but it's not metal at least there's so much more not taking anything away from metal but God damn they were funky at least when Michael Anthony was there shout out Michael Anthony
@@rellis881 no I don't either, but it was a catch all descriptor at the time. Or maybe Heavy Rock sometimes. What attracted me to VH was the joyfulness of it, it's the opposite of dark angry metal, it's really uplifting, mood enhancing rock, with humour. I miss it.
@@Victor-E- Don't get me wrong I like dark heavy music I love alternative I like a lot of metal but Van Halen was something different Van Halen is music that they could put on in a club and people can dance to it people have always been able to and danced to Van Halen calling Van Halen metal is like calling Billy squier lol metal which I don't know his full catalog but I really like stroke and my kind of lover when I was in middle school Van Halen you could really dance to I'm not a dancer I'm just saying I think that because he was actually such a rock god that the other rockers just wanted them in their club but if I'm not mistaken their father which started their whole music thing I think he played polka and some other stuff he was a hell of a musician from everything I've read in his own right and put the boys on the path to music when Sammy Hagar joined the group it took another more adult path some of that shit was just fucking amazing The music was still fun but it was so mature and thought-provoking Eddie's keyboard playing was really showcased although he's the guitar God his keyboard playing is no joke I just hate it that they kicked Michael Anthony to the curb I'll never stop saying that him with Sammy Hagar singing those two and their friendship and those two just being Buddy's and big kids is just the coolest thing
Listen to Eddie’s rhythm playing, especially over the “droning bridge”: He doesn’t just sit on the chord, he keeps moving the voicings around like a piano player. It keeps the song moving forward harmonically. And that descending 8th note part in the main riff kinda swings. Like jazz.
Gives me goosebumps every time I hear it. There's one part where I heard. It sounds like Edward saying " ready guys? " Like this is the the time let's show him what we got
She saw the look in his eyes. and she knew better. He wanted her tonight. And it was now or never. He made her feel so sad. As a teenager then. I was enlightened
Wow... after 45 years Eddie's sound is still awesome... listening to this track, in such raw form, certifies that Ed's touch is, also today, pure rock sound in its finest shape... I really miss you, Edward... one of the musicians who impressed me the most, and undoubtedly the best rock guitar sound I've ever heard.....
Eddie said many times that he didn't "know" what he was doing. Only doing what he heard in his head and finding ways to re-create it on guitar or keys. I too skipped the formality of learning the "right way" to write and play music, but Eddie was leaps above and beyond me for creativity. And as many great guitarists that have come along, he is the only one that did that very thing for decades and was super successful at nearly every turn. I will always want to hear more of his amazing talent
Wow!! This is awesome.. Ed certainly got his due, to be sure. But I feel his rhythm playing isn't discussed enough-brilliant stuff. Clever chord voicings, locked in with his brother, and that tone. Omfg. ❤👍
Eddy at his best, a simple song but his playing is everything but, so much strength in his hands in those early days, he just wrung the snot out of it and had perfect intonation on all his bends, great chord vamps too.
@@roopan1968 yes indeed, awesome it was. His hands were a very big part of that tone too, he could've gotten a good tone out of anything, his guitars were from the bottom of the pile because they were cheap and he didn't have thousands tied up in amps either.
@@thebudge333 ffs dude, if you really have to go there it's Edward. I bought Van Halen 1 "when it came out btw" and his name on the 1st album was Edward not Eddie.
What a freakin genius Musician Eddie and his Brother are. Mike was the perfect badass bass player and singer absolutely stunning. No ai will ever compare
"advanced for 77-78"? I hope you're talking about Ed's own development as a player over time as measured against himself. Because really if you're suggesting better rhythm playing by guitar players in general after the 1970s........I completely disagree with that thought. Most of Ed's work was done in the 1980s but the fact is I consider him among the players of the1970s. This era and back all the way into the 1950s produced better rhythm playing than what came in the hair metal era and even to this day it's exceedingly rare to hear anyone who comes up with something that matches, much less tops, the very innovative era before the guitar playing of the 1980s. What really separates Eddie from others in the 1980s is found in how it may be his incredible solo playing that WOWs people he never failed to understand that the song, that is the backing track for his solos, is even more important. Too many bands in the 1980s didn't understand this and it was all about guitar solos, tricks over extremely weak rhythm playing in so very many cases.
