Vanguard Transmissions | Zavala and Caiatl - "He Thinks Like a Primus" | Season of the Risen

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Zavala and Caiatl discuss the Cabal's war with the Hive.
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Zavala: I didn't expect your people to deploy a cannon quite that large. I don't think the Hive did either.
Caiatl: A cannon is unexceptional, no matter the size. But a Guardian with the tusks to climb into one and fire themselves at a Hive command ship?
Zavala: When death is no longer an obstacle, it becomes... a remarkable teacher.
Caiatl: Lessons learned in your Crucible.
Zavala: And the Iron Banner. Lord Saladin is very proud.
Caiatl: He may not appreciate the comparison, but he thinks like a Primus.
Zavala: Empress. I know this is a sensitive topic... but how long do you believe your forces can commit to a sustained war against our enemies?
Caiatl: Until the last of us draws their final breath.
Zavala: We have a loose assessment of your numbers. Estimates on your fleet in orbit. If this is to become a permanent alliance...
Caiatl: Our war with the Hive is not a matter of strategy or force, Commander - but one of honor. Billions died on Torobatl. Countless more on other worlds of the empire that collapsed to in-fighting or further invasion by Xivu Arath. Outside our rituals, the death of even one Cabal demands reprisal; a life for a life. The Hive have accrued a great debt.
Zavala: And who will raise a monument to your people's honor when the last Cabal dies... waging a war of vengeance?
Caiatl: You.
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@katamed5205 2 года назад

...damn. she put on on the spot right there. guardians don't die. so she asks us to honor her deaths. that's...that's BIG. she really trusts us. basically she put her trust in us to carry on her legacy.

@fishnutz5196 2 года назад

Not her legacy. The Cabal legacy

@m3tr0id86 2 года назад

On any missions where Caital gives me backup or I drop in to join them, I watch their backs as if they were my own forces and fight on the front lines with them. Like the Valus she sends to help on the moon, I make sure he doesn't get bodied by the Ogres.

@jbgaming3221 4 месяца назад

@@m3tr0id86same man. It just ain’t right to not defend them when we have the chance. Man I’m glad the cabal are on our side. It gives us cool things like cabal allies and lord Saladin moving op the ranks in the cabal hierarchy.

@Anime-Doof 2 года назад

I'm happy for our adopted Blue Dad and his big angry Cabal royal tomboy GF.

@Calais-dn5bl 2 года назад

Finally! Someone actually comments on how batshit crazy some of the plans we carry out are

@daftgreene9474 2 года назад

Why are you say words?

@kfclover811 2 года назад

…Young man, delete this.

@Anime-Doof 2 года назад

@@kfclover811 *_"No honor in retreat..."_*

@harambememorialpage 2 года назад

@@Anime-Doof Dam right!

@ferpineda5022 2 года назад

Caiatl doesn't care how big zavalas cannon is but she's does care how big his tusks are

@Anime-Doof 2 года назад

"It's not the size of the cannon, Commander...but the roar of the munitions as they erupt explosively and deal catastrophic damage to their target's vulnerable areas..."

@JeffreyAppSteam 2 года назад

Enough Internet for today

@Anime-Doof 2 года назад

@@JeffreyAppSteam *_"There's no glory in retreat, Commander. Only the bold have songs sung in their honor!"_*

@kingatlanofatlantis3075 2 года назад

That’s enough RU-vid for today.

@whiteevropean 2 года назад

i beg you pardon

@jcstephens0213 2 года назад

Caiatl is such a real one, god damn. Ever since she bodied that psion I just love every interaction with her

@edge4266 2 года назад

Caiatl is one of the best damn characters in the entire series. The fact that we got to have so much interaction with her as a villain, and now as an ally really helped bungo to create an incredible character

@beckhornig7910 2 года назад

From the sound of this Caital doesn't believe she will survive this war and she doesn't care. Oh my.

@ericx6969 2 года назад

kind fcked up story wrote cabal got screwed we never gonna visit their home planet I always thought we fight them on their home turf and never expected them become allies also I thought they only cared about war but it turns out not true

@grimloc211 2 года назад

We never did see a death in the witch queen that spoiler alert was hinting at I think you just found it though. Caital might be who spoiler alert is referring too which is a bit of a disappointment.

@thegloriouskingkronk8422 2 года назад

@Xeno Kudatarkar A death that, may I add, hit quite a lot harder than I would have anticipated

@Plagiarismm 2 года назад

@Xeno Kudatarkar Isn’t it possible for her to be revived though? Immaru is still out there.

@Plagiarismm 2 года назад

@Xeno Kudatarkar oh yeah im stupid

@giantslayer9335 2 года назад

“For a brick, he flew pretty good.”

@Kyubii01 2 года назад

Me seeing him flirt

@nicktitus4374 2 года назад

We did fly pretty good, didn't we? :D

@edgieststalker8141 2 года назад

@@nicktitus4374 titans are classified as "aerodynamic bricks" Hunters classified as "gigantic darts" And Warlocks classifies as "10 pounds feather"

@nicktitus4374 2 года назад

@@edgieststalker8141 then as a Titan this phrase works perfectly.

@TidalWavesLion 2 года назад

@@nicktitus4374 in fairness as a Yeet Titan main, when my Ghost suggested using myself as the projectile, I had the realization that I do that regularly so why was this any different?

@eastsideslingerjoe 2 года назад

If that isn't the most Dwarf sounding shit I ever heard. "We have digitized the Book of Grudges because it has grown so large."

@TSGN_Leviathan 2 года назад

Wow, that single ‘you’ from Caiatl at the end gave me chills! I really like her, such a great character!

@squidish6041 2 года назад

She does have a point. We guardians who can't die (unless our ghosts die) will mourn the death of the lightless Cabal who fought at our side, even if it feels weird since it was the Cabal who slaughtered so many (lightless) guardians during the red war.

@dances_with_myself9305 2 года назад

@@squidish6041 “Red Legion” to be more specific

@edgieststalker8141 2 года назад

@@squidish6041 just like eliksni even when they were a serious threat as the House of Wolves

@samparsons5867 2 года назад

I love how Zavala asked the question of who will raise a monument when the last cabal blood has been spilled. I like it even better when Caiatl said you. This shows that there is more than a mutual respect between two leaders. Their is trust and she trusts Zavala more than anyone of humanity, with the exception of us the Guardian.

@Spectingthemvoid 2 года назад

Zavala is bassicly a honourary cabal at this point. I think there was a thing where back in chosen if we lost to ignoven zavala would of had to become a primus or something

@dovahfruit9503 2 года назад

@@Spectingthemvoid i belive it was bracus

@cee_ves 2 года назад

@@Spectingthemvoid yeah, basically. Humanity would be annexed into the cabal empire like the Psions were, but Zavala would be able to keep his authority, except he would answer to caityl

@TheTanmoy1990 2 года назад

@@dovahfruit9503 Yep. As far memory goes, he was supposed to be given the title of Bracus Zavala

@bim7355 2 года назад

She honestly got me when she said "You" it was simple but get the message across clear

@fj7509 2 года назад

I was listening to this cutscene and Deep Stone Lullaby began playing the moment Caital finished with “You.” One of the best moments of the season.

@jacobguba2163 2 года назад

I also had deep stone lullaby start playing, I had to get up for a minute and take it in because I was thoroughly shook… Bungie did great with this one

@Darthma94 2 года назад

The ship is slowly raising its sails...

@centimanj8916 2 года назад

All aboard!

@fishnutz5196 2 года назад

Im weirdly here for it

@TidalWavesLion 2 года назад

You mean it hadn't back at the end of season of the chosen, or when the collector's edition (though according to lore it was Ikora) suggested/hinted at a marriage of sorts?

@KoruKinshi 2 года назад

There will be NO CLIMBING THE CABAL MOUNTAIN

@inquisitorthomasdefinitely536 2 года назад

How many guardians are putting bet on them hooking up I wonder

@MoogleBread 2 года назад

"Will you have the honor of burying my dead body?" Thats straight up a Cabal marriage proposal and you know it.

@numbjuhnu 2 года назад

This has become a strength for Bungie: Characters evolving. Every time now that we are introduced to a new character, It makes me excited for coming weeks to see how they interact and evolve throughout. Caiatl started as an arrogant leader trying to unite Cabal and make Zavala bow before her, and now she sees him as something of an equal and practically asks him to remember her people when they are gone. And to think this change happened in a span of few seasons.

@BitrateBilly 2 года назад

Actually, she never was arrogant, the lore books reveal that her asking for zavala to bow was a complete act in order to keep herself from seeming like a strong leader, if this risk wasn't a thing she would have simply asked for an alliance

@numbjuhnu 2 года назад

@@BitrateBilly I see. My mistake. but it nonetheless proves my point how she has grown over these seasons.

@MrTJCM6 2 года назад

@@numbjuhnu If I’m not mistaken but the seasons sort of act like several gaps in terms of time. Some of the dialogue between Saladin and Crow mention Saladin saying something along the lines of crow wrestling with a lifetime of Uldren’s experiences and a few years of his own, implying in the few seasons we’ve known crow the man has gone through a couple years in game while only being a year or so for us? (When did Season of the Hunt come out again?) Sure it may seem like months for us but for in-game per say it might’ve been much longer, years maybe, in between seasons!

@numbjuhnu 2 года назад

@@MrTJCM6 Saladin implied to the time Uldren was resurrected, which happened in Forsaken. So Crow has been a Guardian for over 3,5 years now. There are few Lore pages that tell his journeys during the Forsaken - Season of Arrivals period.

@SpitefulRage 2 года назад

“A guardian with the tusk to climb in to one and fire themselves at a hive command ship?” In human terms we have the balls to fire ourselves to the command ship of the hive😂

@pifilixxiv3192 2 года назад

Gotta love that tusks is the euphemism for balls in cabal terms

@jordancherepanov8557 2 года назад

But Tusk are only on female cabal though

@TheTanmoy1990 2 года назад

@@jordancherepanov8557 So basically, "The sheer tits on that fucker"

@mosisusasu9205 2 года назад

Kinda more like the vag considering that tusks only occur on female cabal

@NotASpyPootis 2 года назад

@@TheTanmoy1990 for male guardians, guardian femboy, *GUARDIAN FEMBOY*

@tairrendaly5855 2 года назад

That last word spoken definitely shows how much shes both a good leader and ally she is. 🤔

@vismortis 2 года назад

Savathun really did us a favor there. Yeah it was self serving but still a great boon for us

@mediocregamer2484 2 года назад

Cabal logic is always: I will tear shit up and take everyone with me. Love that.

@maxdrive717 2 года назад

WHEN. IS. THE WEDDING, COMMANDER??? WHENNN???

@ginghinaandrei5013 2 года назад

The way things go? As soon as Eva gets an event to make us bring her fabric for a Cabal sized dress.

@ferpineda5022 2 года назад

Or some wierd cabal wedding where we have help zavala fight other cabal to show he is worthy.... You know what would be funny was that they were married but zavala didn't know because for cabal culture alliance means marriage

@gabrielpineirogarcia2078 2 года назад

@@ginghinaandrei5013 its a comunity event that needs 3 million strings for the bust alone

@ASimpleGodzillaFan 2 года назад

@@gabrielpineirogarcia2078 You already know a Ton of Guardians would absolutely participate because they would love to know Caitals measurements

@vollied4865 2 года назад

When she said 'You' I think I started crying damn that shit actually hit me right in the heart. I really hope the cabal don't go extinct over this man it'd be so cool to walk through the city and have eliskni cabal awoken human and potentially krill (hive without their worms) just hanging out sharing a beer.

@V1kN1k 2 года назад

I don't think Saladin is proud of me getting a kill for every 5 deaths

@nickelglasses700 2 года назад

Remember, that one kill every five deaths is still better than none. I'd call that improvement.

@tracyvanguard1708 2 года назад

He will be proud of you for getting better eventually I for one am happy to know that youre trying, guardian Steel sharpens steel, you’ll get the hang of it

@AklyonX 2 года назад

He's proud of the stubbornness to keep getting kills

@flux0841 2 года назад

Fun fact: Caiatl and the Female sole survivor from Fallout 4 share the same voice actor.

@ginghinaandrei5013 2 года назад

Yes. And Amanda.

@TidalWavesLion 2 года назад

Amanda and Jack from Mass Effect as well.

@samuelburrell5863 2 года назад

Who would have thought after Red War that a conversation like this would take place

@paytahblazed6107 2 года назад

Not me I never thought we'd ally ourself with the space ri ... tur .... cabal but it turned out quite nice

@remingtonsummers8014 2 года назад

Everyone hear that chuckle in Caiatl's voice? If she likes us being fired out of cannons, part of me thinks she'd like the Jackass movies.

@TidalWavesLion 2 года назад

She may have been upset that we killed loads of her Warriors, but she seems to be rather impressed that we had the guts/ tusks to launch ourselves Doom style out if the cannon. Something tells me that the Cabal would be iffy on if they would do the same.

@ericx6969 2 года назад

caitl a queen a better queen the mara sov and savathun

@Sigma-gb9yd 2 года назад

The best part is that while Mara and Caiatl both care for their people greatly, Caiatl can and will show it. And that makes her greater

@JamesTheTurnbull 2 года назад

This dude really got himself a tomboy girlfriend.

@nicktitus4374 2 года назад

Hooray for tomboys!

@johanneshermansson7630 2 года назад

Holy shit that last line was a gut punch.

@grainisobtained1690 2 года назад

Zavala's got massive tusk energy

@kkcheung6170 2 года назад

this gave me goosebumps, telling us to avenge them if necessary... that probably the highest praise the cabal people can give... also... primus saladin... got a good ring to it,

@mitcheldenhartog1886 2 года назад

This is how the cabal propose. You're engaged now Zavala, matzeltoph

@ruthlesslistener 2 года назад

The alien alliances in this game are hands-down the best part of the story after years of bloody war with them. I hope we get a hell of a lot more of it in the future

@Indivenant 2 года назад

That “you.” at the end made my eyes tear up a little. It’s the small things in writing that often have the most impact.

@madmax6439 2 года назад

The old saying " The enemy of my enemy is my friend" sooner or later both of them will rest after the last enemy dies.

@TheChinchillaArmy 2 года назад

Damn this season story content is such a banger, but boy this was depressing and bleak. We might be seeing the last of the Cabal fall in the future. 10/10 character development.

@charleskinsey2077 2 года назад

Woah thats huge. She trusts us that much.

@chrisjohnson3912 2 года назад

I'm sorry... but Caiatl is my favor character in Destiny and it's not even close.

@Solkard 2 года назад

Just think if Cabal get guardians. Seems only fair at this point. I wonder if that will bring Claus out of hiding

@jacobb5484 2 года назад

Devotion, bravery, sacrifice, death.

@cybernurgle6413 2 года назад

They got the makings right there. Mark my words, come Destiny 3 we will have Eliksni and Cabal as playable races.

@centimanj8916 2 года назад

@@cybernurgle6413 We will never have other playable races. Simply think about armor, if nothing else. Currently, we have armor for 3 classes, and one Gender each. That makes 6 different versions of each armor set. Eliksni and Cabal have drastically different Body sizes and structures, and would require individual armor sets for each class and Gender too. Its just unfeasable. Plus, cabal need entirely new weapons, since human weapons are just too small for them, etc etc I believe we will get Fallen and Cabal lightbearers in the lore, but not playable.

@theexurian1079 2 года назад

@@centimanj8916 true, although… we’re talking 3 years down the line at least. They could legit say no more classes, build your own kit. No more exclusive gear.

@calus_bath_water 2 года назад

@@centimanj8916 eh I'd argue eliksni are pretty similar to humans in terms of their body shape, I mean if you take away an eliksnis lower arms it pretty much has the exact same silhouette as a human, but yeah cabal wouldn't really work

@gabrielpineirogarcia2078 2 года назад

I love how the first half of the transmission is them talking like two best Friends talking on the phone. Gossiping and complimenting one another

@SmartShotgun 2 года назад

I think that we will have light bearing cabal and eliksni by the end of the light and dark chapter of destiny …

@mgshadow45 2 года назад

I've been hoping for that a long time.

@Zexion579 2 года назад

That last line struck my heart so hard it brought me to tears. I shouldn't care. It is just dumb cabal. But yet I see myself caring for them. They are my....friends...

@sauska619 2 года назад

Zavala boutta give her Mars for that sweet Cabal buss 😩

@calus_bath_water 2 года назад

Whether we wanted it or not, we've stepped into a relationship with the Cabal on Mars. So let's get to taking out their command for dinner, one by one. Empress Caiatl. From what I can gather she commands zavalas lust from an Imperial Land Tank outside of nessus. She's well protected, but with the right team, we can punch through those thick cabal thighs and take this sexy beast out for dinner

@schonkigplavuis8850 2 года назад

The YOU took a moment to sink in. 1.) That's it? is there more? 2). Ho wow. that gave me chills. 3). So you really do trust us huh

@doofers5003 2 года назад

BTW to anyone that is curious, a primus in cabal hierarchy as far as we know leads a single legion of cabal. Evocate General can be appointed in this echelon of primus's, an Evocate General is basically leader of the cabal military which is also the rank below the current Emperor/Dominus

@merilynnshark6144 Год назад

This is one of my favorite dialogues between Caiatl and Zavala... it shows that they've each started to see the others' people as their own.

@Spartan-sz7km 2 года назад

What foreshadowing lol and her interest in iron banner was foreshadowed

@tycusd1389 2 года назад

..get a room u 2.

@osiristheexile5457 2 года назад

Ad Victoriam, Empress

@fishnutz5196 2 года назад

Deep Stone Lullaby was playing in the background when i listened to this. Was a bit of a beautiful moment

@MW2proification 2 года назад

While this was a deep conversation, I am a bit worried about the future of the Cabal, with them being confirmed to be a small fraction of what they once were, they may not get any opportunity for their own future DLC which they can show new units or lore, my only hope is if they do, they would at least get a Psion DLC via the Conclave with a sub-faction of Psions like the Scorn for the Fallen or the Taken for the Hive.

@chrisjohnson3912 2 года назад

Just thinking as this was brought up on another DLV video... other races getting the Light... maybe with the Cabal's dwindling numbers as out allies they become Lightbarers?

@chrisjohnson3912 2 года назад

@@Notyourstodisclose Oh no... that actually fits what's been happening... omg.

@jaygei_2641 2 года назад

@@Notyourstodisclose oh..ohh...ohhh no..

@jacobb5484 2 года назад

While they’re dwindling, Calus is 100% returning and should provide room for Darkness based Cabal.

@gektoast4968 2 года назад

@@chrisjohnson3912 well, we now know other races can be lightbearers. I hope the cabal and fallen become guardians

@awildridehome9469 2 года назад

Reminds me of that Mass Effect quote from Javik. "Stand amongst the ashes of a trillion dead souls, and ask the ghosts if honor matters. The silence is your answer"

@carsenmaxwell3336 2 года назад

I want to see more of the Cabal in season of the Risen, the trailer showed Guardians fighting alongside Cabal, this makes me sad for Caiatl, I want her Empire to survive, I like her, her character is respectable, and I’d like to see her people earn their vengeance against Xivu Arath, but I want to see Savathûn again, she betrayed the Witness, their allies, and the only Hive who still serve her are her Lucent Hive, maube after awhile they could show an alliance between Lightbearers of all races, maybe the Traveler will grant the Light to the Cabal Empire, the House of Light, Variks, and that could add to the Lucent Hive. I’m excited for what comes next, and The Witness and Xivu Arath now empoly the full might of all remaining Hive Broods formerly loyal to Oryx, Crota, and Savathûn(with the obvious exception of The Lucent Hive), the Taken, and the Scorn. I think an alliance between the Witness’ enemies will be awesome, I hope Imarru revives Savathûn, but this time they could join forces, Xivu Arath will be trying to kill Savathûn, giving her a permanent death for her defection, I want to see that alliance

@hylianglitchmobber7570 2 года назад

Moments like this are why the first mission of Witch Queen pissed me off so much. Caiatl is a trusted ally by this point in time. Why in the world were we so quick to kill her soldiers just for setting up a cannon to attack the hive with? They weren't even attacking us first. We initiated the attack

@gabrielpineirogarcia2078 2 года назад

Well in All honesty they did attack first if you approach. But thats like entering a secret and restricted área irl. You're bound to get shot.

@TidalWavesLion 2 года назад

The way I see it, my Titan requested access and was denied. She requested to speak to Caitil directly and was denied, so she gave them a choice: stand down or she'd defend herself while she tried to get onto Savathun's ship. When she was denied a third time and told to get lost, her next words were "Tell your boys I'll see 'em in five." and cut coms. When I think of it that way, it makes more sense as to why Caitil was upset but then quickly forgives us or gives it a rest.

@LordDoom10 2 года назад

Wow. That is quite the moment. And I do hope not foreshadowing of Caiatl's imminent demise.

@metabreakers5577 Год назад

RIP

@jubess 2 года назад

Love this channel. I was looking for this exact interaction

@Vanq22114 Год назад

Hate to say it, but Caiatl has beaten out Mithrax as my favorite alien character. Absolute badass, honorable and determined to a fault, having learned from the failures of Calus and Ghaul.

@mrblackbird6936 2 года назад

What the speaker said I. The red war really has me worried. Your kind started small and it will end small. It all coming into fluention. The cabals might die out. But he said end. Hopefully some survive to repopulate their kind with the help of humanity

@user-mh2jg9rt4j Год назад

i like how she knows saladin so well that she knows he wouldn't appreciates comparing the crucible with the iron banner

@Fallen-Saint 2 года назад

This is giving me some, SHIP MASTER THEY OUT NUMBER US ONE TO FIVE!!!

@pobzy4076 2 года назад

Damn these scripted moments have gotten so good!

@grzegorzflorek5623 2 года назад

Wow. Just... wow...

@billymurray196 2 года назад

Fuck, that was good

@carlospacheco7544 2 года назад

Ofcourse! What else would you expect from none other than the best girl in the franchise?

@oivatank 2 года назад

It makes me so happy that Caiatl is such a big part of the story now, and has been a key factor in the majority of the seasons since her first appearance.

@madmammoth9022 2 года назад

Caitl is a Les Claypool fan and thats canon imo

@Slenderman12342 2 года назад

When I first heard that I got shivers

@volcomkoi 2 года назад

This scene is so good. Gotdayum

@ThatGuyYouveKnown 2 года назад

Now he thinks like a bracus lol

@Flamme-Sanabi 2 года назад

This... This is truely heartbreaking.

@smurphy55656 2 года назад

Oooh that "you" at the end gave me goosebumps

@nimbusshadow-wings Год назад

Damn, them gettin flirty

@dragonking1097 2 года назад

Remembering what Caiatl said. I like to imagine that could happen. First as Braccus Forge, now Valus Forge, and later Lord Saladin becomes Primus Forge.

@PANCAKEMINEZZ 2 года назад

I thkn Destiny typically handles characters kind of poorly, but man, the more I see of Caiatl, the more I get pumped. I loved Calus because of the personality and grandeur he brought to the table, but man I'm starting to like Caiatl just as much if not more than Calus. Love seeing her fleshed out in these.