*Really* = So EVERYBODY that mocked and beat up Robbie were wrong too ? Coolio as ghetto as he is, understands "peace" and didn't want the fellow to get hurt. He wanted a clear conscience, because WHO else stuck up for the kid ????
Let's be real Arsenio Hall just didn't like Rob because he was a white guy. Just like they didn't like Marshall Mathers when he first came out because he was white. This whole racial stereotyping has always existed in Rap and Hiphop music. It even exists in the Film Industry or the Police Force when they recruit people. I hate our Hypocritical Americanized Culture. I've never seen race, only the human race.
Vanilla you stood taller I saw that interview, I’m black, I have been a fan my whole life, I was told the same thing by black people because I did classical music and not rap and hip hop that I’m not black enough to do a black man’s music, I’m less than, And Vanilla You were the most dignified guest to ever have a host ambush you the way Hall did. Those ghetto dudes would have shooting and cursing people out but you had dignity and class you can’t buy GOD BLESS YOU V
@@stevjohnson3681 Looks like someone can't read. "Jonah" That's not a black woman, you dunce. Sorry to ruin your little interacial fantazy... You're mad because Pasty Ice was humliated and ran out of hip hop for being a fraud.... 🤣😚
@@chrisscholp1968 - SOME SUGARFOOT SAID ROBERT OUTSMARTED ARSENIO, HOWWWWW ? THERE WERE HOW MANY TIMES, HE CLAIMED TO BE "PART BLACK". Hell if you wanna know someone I would love to get called out, is that "WIQQQQQQQQER JOHN CENA". 20 years and nobody called his White AZZ out, did they ????????
do you pay attention, he was pissed about the lies, Arsenio did his research cause he does his flipping job and confronted Ice and his people all day about the different lies. Even gave him an out and told him just play and go but if you sit I will confront you about your fake background and they kept saying you can't ask those questions. They had many chances to back out and chose to live the lie so he is pissed because this man sitting across from him is lying, he knows he is lying and the man is called out for it and continues to lie. Sounds like I would just as pissed and so would you and if you say no then you are lying too
when you're too famous people tend to get jealous and hate Vanilla Ice for nothing. Despite all those trauma he living his life to the fullest and survived.
I'm a 46 year old man from Melbourne and Vanilla ice was the first concert I ever saw! There was a time when I thought this was a cheesy thing to admit but now I think it's really a fond memory. My friends and I were driven in by my mates mum and on the way back we drove next to ice in his limo. We were all thrilled when we saw his silhouette giving us hand symbols through the window. Some moments you never forget.
Ice was just doing his thing as a young buck. The problem is, when you get big and start surpassing everyone, everyone then wants to tear you apart. I didn't care if he was from the streets or not, his music at the time was on fire. Nobody can deny that...
it was the lies, the fake background they tried to sell, this is what Arsenio was pissed about, they took a middle class kid from the burbs and tried to create this tough guy from the hood persona. Ice was not just doing Ice, he did the opposite, the heavy metal house fixing version is closer to the real him and Arsenio did his research and knew it and tried confronting them all day about it even gave them a chance to not do the interview but they insisted on living the lie and not being pressed about those lies, this is why he was pissed and I would have been as well and so would you if you knew a liar sat across from you on national TV spouting his lies
@@randyreynolds4252 True. It was just the music industry doing things to sell records. Lots of fake gangster rappers out there also at that time. The record industry has a way turning people into something their not, trying to make them look bigger than what they are. It's a stupid game. He had no choice but to hang onto the theme or simply be washed out which is what happened anyway. He was a kid at the time who didn't know anything except that his music was a hit...
@@randyreynolds4252 True to an extent, but hey, welcome to the entertainment world. You think Tom Cruise is a tough guy badass, all 5'5 of him? You think it's a rare good day when Ice Cube doesn't have to use his AK? Man they all full of sh**, it's Hollywood.
@@randyreynolds4252 to be real 90%if that was just arsiniohatingon a white successful guy Using the rap culture, to be richer than him. He was hating straight up.
Yep. But that didn't make sense, right? He wasn't the first and certainly wouldn't be the last. We all have something special from our backgrounds and cultures to add to society and a lot is admirable. therefore, lets just sit back and enjoy all the beauty, talent and differences that make life so interesting.
U know what I don't understand? Arsenio was so nice to Marky Mark, who actually committed a hate crime towards a black person but treated Vanilla Ice, who has no hatred towards anybody like shit. It's like the world has gone mad. Smh
I don't care. I read people's energy very well. And he seems like a cool down to earth guy that genuinely loves rap and the culture. He doesn't scream culture vulture or racist or anything to me.
no doubt. seems like he can laugh about the whole situation. would be dope to have a beer with this dude and listen to his hip hop stories lmao. if this dude came out these days, nobody would bat an eye at his "credentials" or "background". he became a martyr for the very thing most artists these days fabricate lol
I love my people dearly, but Arsenio was acting real small. I'm glad his audience boo'd him MORE THAN ONCE and I hope his ratings went down after that. Arsenio was a full grown man, Robert was young and trying to find his way through unprecedented sudden fame which comes with a big price. Then years later, an EVEN OLDER Arsenio is laughing and purposely saying Robert's name wrong. DISGUSTING TO SEE THIS BEHAVIOR IN A MAN. ANY RACE.
Ice didn’t help himself at the time by whoever put that fabricated biography of his together. He was huge and he was very secretive about his life at that time.
I loved Arsenio Hall,what he did that night was effed up. Still got mad respect for Vanilla Ice. Yeah,I remember 3rd Base also clowning on ICE. I guess you ain’t doing something right if you don’t have haters.
Also saw it first hand and thought whys Arsenio being such a dick.I personally got that his tough black friends in the music industry or entertainment industry in general didn't like vanilla and told him...Arsenio needing to be liked by his own than acted like he didn't like Vanilla...so 2 faced Arsenio is and was.Said he left the entertainment industry to raise his son.Dude be honest no one wanted to hire you anymore.
I would say neither was a punk . I did not see either one sporting doc martins , leather jacket or even a sex pistols shirt . Granted ice looked like he was ready to go into the one of those anti gravity sky diving tunnels.
Vanilla was awesome an he still is! and he was the pop hit in those years so all these black folks were being haters on him they didn't want to make him famous. So they bash him down messed up. We Love you Vanilla you are still One my favorites since childhood much love and respect to you,❤️
I'm from Dallas, no I did not know Robbie, but I seen him at the racetracks around North Texas, and I seen him in the clubs in Dallas, the boy could run the floor, and he was one of the fast guys at the racetracks, and he had a crew of Brothers that were very good friends with him, I never seen him start trouble with anybody, he was always chill 😎
Jus hatin on vanilla ice cause he was doing big things and making moves back when their wasnt any other white dudes doin it like ice. I been a fan since my youth in the 90s and still a fan today as a 38 year old man.
@@TheRetroManRandySavage agreed! I meant on a solo level. Beastie boys take me back to being a kid in the 80s and watching em on MTV. Good days with no stress lol
I’d heard about that Vanilla Ice had an Infamous interview on Arsenio Hall and I assumed it was infamous because Ice did or said something stupid that made himself look like an idiot. To my surprise it was Arsenio who made himself looked ridiculous. I can’t say I’ve ever been a fan of his music or anything but I have to respect the class he showed and not backing down to Hall’s biased racially tinged questioning.
Believe me Vanilla Ice need no black rappers to validate that Ice is a true rapper, what ice achieved many hasn't achieved today. Wished Ice could of stayed in the Game longer despite being white and not a former or wannabe gangster like most of the rappers in the 90's
You know its funny to me, NWA werent gansters at all, would Hall ever call them out for posing or being fake. Dre and easy were shooting paint ball guns when the police arrested them, fcking paintballs and Ice Cube wrote Fck tha Police because he was mad dre had to serve time on weekends for that. Just one example of fake rappers who made it sound like they were killing people and cops and gang bangin. Fuck tha Hall Show!!!!!!!!
@@DJRashadHayes not at All but he screwed himself but with Knight everyone being scared of him made things hard he even took money from Ice... Look at the new content of Vanilla Ice he ain't rapping bad at all, guy needs a proper collab and he'll be set again but anyway Vanilla was way ahead of his time in today's Era he would of been Mega
So what?!!! At this point, we had the Beasty Boys rapping in the 80's, they were big and Wasn't Mark Wahlberg rapping in the 90's. Every time he's asked about those days, he talks it done as if he's ashamed or something. Then later there was Eminem and a few others too. No one had ANY complaints about those guys. What was the problem with Vanilla Ice? I think "Ice Ice Baby" was a cool song. No pun intended and he as cute with his unique high top fade. I'm black and I liked him and his raps and his style! He didn't do or say anything different than anyone else has done. All of those rappers hype themselves up, especially back then! What... he can't rap because he's white? Besides rappers, It's not like there haven't been other white artist singing soul music so what's the difference? Remember, "Color Me Bad" from the 90's. I black guy in the group and he was not the lead. Even though everyone that the lead was a black guy. If he really didn't like Ice, why did he invite him to come on the show, just to show him up! On the other hand, I thought Ice was professional and handled himself very well. He wasn't being aggressive. He didn't seem angry or anything. It was Arsenio Hall's most childish interview ever. Anyone could tell his interview questions were bias against Ice.
ALL VALID POINTS. I was only 9 or 10 at the time.... Looking back now as an adult, I realize something... HE'S the only one out of all those white rappers who could dance his ass off, had the face of a super model, all the swag with that haircut and outfits, and topped it off with massive sex appeal. I definitely think THAT'S why he received the amount of jealousy and bad attention that he did.
@@EnchantedJewelzEmpire all those things apply to Mark whalberg as well, women were in love with whalberg as well. The difference is that Ice was the first rapper to hit #1 on the charts and alot of blacks did not like that.
ragging on him for the fake background and when Arsenio submitted question all day they would lie and say can't ask that. He was lying and thats why he was pissed
I don't think Flavor F would make a special trip to the show for a white rapper just to give him dap if they weren't boys. Chuck was probably just trying to protect PE rep at the time. How can they say "Fight the powers that be" & be boys with a white rapper
not that Flav is a integral part of Public Enemy, they even fired him last year. He is was always kept around for comedy purposes, chuck does not take flav serious and does not include him on most PE related decisions. so probably wasn't protecting and Flav, he was probably with Ice but that was more to do with the women and drugs Ice had and not being boys. Flav was and is a crackhead
I actually saw an interview with Chuck D back in the day where he actually made reference to other people referring to Vanilla Ice as "The Elvis of rap" and him saying something to the effect like " If there was going to be an Elvis of rap I would like to get a piece of that" as though like he was saying he would sign him to a deal himself. Vanilla Ice actually confirmed this in another interview where he said Chuck D was at one point discussing a Def Jam deal with him before he signed with SBK Records.
Ice didn't claim to hang with Public Enemy or Chuck D anyway. He said he was friends with Flav. Not sure why Arsenio or anyone else can't realize that Flav and Chuck could have their own friends.
There's nothing fair about it That interview was basically Arsenal trying to set up ice because his producers have read the bio that the record label had put out and his manager who blames ice for that bio but he wanted to question him about his background Motocross all kinds of things Vanilla Ice did motocross for about 25 years under his real name so you couldn't find out anything because at that point nobody knew his real name Ice is the first Platinum rapper on the planet period Still to this day he sells at least a million copies of his first album it continues to sell and make money and he is still a success despite everyone putting obstacles in his way
@Mister Happy Something tells me you always play the victim and race card as leverage to provide ridiculous and unfounded comments... the proof is you mentioning my skin color being white. 🧐 Get lost
Arsenio really tried to make it sound like he's out there doing hard hitting journalism and he wasn't just another bullshit talk show for artists to promo their shit 😂
I am a fan of both Arsenio Hall and Vanilla Ice and I saw that interview and I feel that Arsenio was a little bit rude to the Ice Man but he handled himself well overall. And on a side note I have a you tube channel type in Russell Mills May 22, 2017 to find me.
IceMan kept his cool throughout. A-hall was as much a scumbag as Martin Bashir was to Michael Jackson. Only in this case IceMan destroyed him. Which is impressive for a young kid far less experienced with the media at that time.
I remember this happening in real time way back then. And felt totally turned off by arsenals attack. This dude is doing your show and gets this treatment. And for sure felt the dislike from arsenal towards ice. I will never forget that show. And didnt like it even back then and watching it recently. I dont like it. But ice was some one I grew up listening to and enjoy his new raps he puts out today.
If Arsenio went after every rapper that lied about their backgrounds he’d still be top rated with a lie detector like Maury!! “Aaaaaand the test results are in and you DID rent the Bentley in your video and you HAVE NOT ever shot a gun before in your life!” It was a bs interview, AH should have apologized!!
In another video Arsenio said he was fed a bunch of lies about Ice prior to the show that night and one thing he said that he was told was that Ice won motocross races. Well ASSenio...he did win them. And in bunches. I couldn't stand Arsenio back then, and that feeling never changed. He's a very racist...!
yeah but he was pissed cause they tried to confront them all day about it even gave them an out on the interview, just play and go but they insisted on living the lies and thats what pissed him off as would you, Hall did his dam job and did the research and they still refused to admit anything. Ice admitted it later so Arsenio was right at the time to give him a hard time, especially after given so many chances to fix it before going on set. Flav is just a crack head and Ice had money 2+2 = 4
@@randyreynolds4252 again.. ice was young doing what he was told. My thing is he's a whole grown man coming for a young Man when he himself knows how the business is. I don't understand what Flav being a crackhead has to do with it.
Its crazy all you had to go through to share your love for music to the world. Man the haters. I have some understanding on a level for my work growing into the world. Just going to have haters who see your growth in success
Vanilla Ice was the first white rapper and rather than embracing or helping him the others just focused on the differences and allowed it to create tension and set a bad example. Love him or hate him Vanilla is and always will be the first white rapper.
Actually Vanilla was one of the major white rappers coming up on top at that time but remember this, other white rappers came before him example Beastie Boys as well as Everlast was coming out in the 89-90s
@@ModernDayWarrior2112 I don't disagree with you but we are talking about being world famous and selling millions of copies. "Ice Ice Baby" is still rocking the crowd!
@Mister Happy Just because you think he is not a "great" rapper which is subjective because I think he was great at his times, you cannot deny the numbers and popularity. Like Jay Z said men lie, women lie but numbers don't! Btw, Debbie GIbson's songs are still famous and plays in parties but not heard any LL Cool J for a long time! LMAO!
I'm black and I'm a fan of vanilla ice....they all was just haters and envious of his success with the song.... he also got the last laugh in life with all his success ouside of music
Vanilla represented himself very well. The appearance at the time was a record company creating a product that will sell to a white audience. We'd all seen it with New Kids on the Block, and then here came another manufactured entity for the rap niche, oh and he's a pretty white boy. So it is understandable why those that paved the way for the rap industry would get very annoyed by what seemed like some kind of con. Arsenio represents that annoyance in this interview that a lot of people had, and he probably felt compelled to ask tougher questions... but he should have done so without slipping insults into the conversation. Live and learn. I think Vanilla Ice was being used as a pawn by the record company, but you can see he was genuinely enjoying the ride as a performer, not a paid actor pretending to be a rapper.
Na, the media and elites were trying to push Ice out, and other big rappers at the time. They wanted to make room for the industry plants that came after Ice, to negativity influence the black community.
I think vanilla ice sounds great! Seen a Morgan Freeman interview where he stated we should all quit referring to people by color that's what keeps it going. We are all human created by God our Father in heaven
And just look at the end result of this interview: Arsenio's ratings began to fall and his show was eventually cancelled while Vanilla Ice enjoyed a long and lucrative career that stills endures to this day - oh wait . . . that's not right. They both slipped into obscurity. Oh well - one day you're hot and the next day you're not.
Vanilla Ice kept on making music and was huge in Europe and Asia reportedly making around 14 million annually. Has his own property investment company and the VIP Vanilla Ice Project on HGTV restoring mansions in Miami...I'm guessing Arsenio cleans Eddie Murphys pool and helps hammer collect food stamps to feed his posse.
@@nickcarroll5034 - nah - I really don't want to talk about him at all. We could talk about "nostalgia" - that feeling of fondly looking back at bygone days. You know - things that use to be important but now are nothing more than pleasant memory. Kind of like Vanilla Ice. Does he still pop up now again? Absolutely - usually on some cable reality show. That's where most obscure celebrities show up.
The fabricated biography that was circulating from his record label or his management about him growing up as a Miami gangbanger and being a national motorcross champion.
If you could hang out with one celebrity and have them show you around New York or Miami’s or Vegas or LA, who would you pick and why? I think I’ve might be high on the list as I think he would probably show you a good time.
I remember when I.I.B. came out...EVERYBODY , black , white , purple...was lovin' that tune and " Vanilla Ice " . That tune helped bridge the gap between black rappers and white rappers. Ice showed people that white boys got it , too...and the haters out there didn't like the fact he had his S...t goin' on.
Arsenio Hall I am so shocked that you treated Vanilla Ice with pure hatred with your jealous self. You should have been proud not about color but a young man making it big in this world.
