Vaporfly 1 - 2 - 3 Shoeoff. Which version do I now prefer ? 

Just feel a bit softer to me although perhaps noticed it a bit more at slower warm up pace than faster race pace.

Yeah I now think the v3 is worth a look. Hamstring largely prevented me doing a proper today but hopefully won’t be out too long as known them far worse. Funny as never had a hamstring pull before I turned 40 but now it is an injury I get every year or two.

Not even able to run since but hopefully just a temporary set back. Yeah hamstrings were never an issue for me since turned 40 but must have pulled one about every other year since. Not as if I was “sprinting” here but had noticed it was a bit tender when did 400s last Saturday and then I had the 5K race on the Tuesday. So I guess was stressing it more than marathon pace work all winter.

Yeah thanks wasn’t good yesterday so may need a few days off. Certainly worth trying v3 sometime.

Yeah once I had sorted my lockdown issues, v3 is promising for sure. That I am still struggling with my hamstring from this video is another matter!

Ah interesting. In a way I am the opposite in that have both those shoes but in my size find them rather a lot of shoe. Always good to find what works for you. Yeah going to have take things easier for a bit.

No cone but it was a U turn at the end of an unmade road so sort of a rural pseudo cone :) Well done for spotting Sue at the end! There was very little parking spaces in Stockbridge so thought would do my Shoeoff somewhere bit quieter.

Yeah I did think that as well but after my decent 5K race in the v3 the other day and hopefully sorting out my lockdown then am warming to them. What not so sure about is how the v3 will feel in longer runs and I have raced 3 marathons in the v1 which all went relatively well. Nice to have a different option going forward though as my v1s won’t last forever even though all 7 of them have life left in them.

Give us some report after long run; plan to run marathon again in late autumn (first one should be 23.04 Vienna in AP3; it should be 03:29:59😀 or less)

@@markoljustina yeah will do - when my hamstring is up for it.

@@TimGrose Affirmative

V1 for life 😂. I have 2 fresh pair left in the collection

In hindsight should not have started that last rep as can’t now run but hopefully only a temporary setback. You know how it is when going well don’t want to stop and assumed the car behind can’t have been far from his door as you would go down that road in a car through that ford as rather deep. When he touted horn more, I gave him the customary “wave” and more moved into the middle. Sure enough he (one presumes !!!) turns off at the last house before the ford. How much of a hurry can you be in the sort of middle of nowhere. Pity did not have the camera on it in a way.

@@TimGrose yes we have a closed trail bridge near us which necessitates crossing a very busy A road. There is a temporary speed restriction in place to bring 60mph down to 40. Few drivers observe it. I take pleasure in having the Insta 360 to hand and holding it up as if I'm some sort of amateur traffic patrol. In fact we're in Dorset over Easter and there seem to be amateur community speed gun patrols in every village.

@@tworunningbrooms Ah just back from a family day out at East Stour on the Dorset/Somerset border. Took in a bit of old railway exploring at Henstridge - fully kitted out for running but decided to walk or rather could only walk. Didn't you have a hamstring issue? Are things OK now? Not sure quite sure how I did it as it wasn't a sudden pull or anything but it had been a little sore before this session but did not trouble me in the 5K race on Tuesday. Oh well not the first hamstring issue have had and probably won't be the last.

I think the slightly softer feel helped to take a bit off but still actually go reasonably well. I stopped when it became a little drag back up and started then to feel needed to engage the hamstring much more. Was a good test as if nothing else told me I need to try and get my v2 tighter and with one pair still fresh in a box going to be a training option for sure.

Unfortunately Brooks only do the Hyperion Elite 2 (and 3) up to a UK 12 when I am really a 13. I tried the 12 out of curiosity but it was too short although can't say it felt amazing even so. What attracted you to that other the now myriad of "super" shoes?

@@TimGrose Any time I run further that 10k I seem to get blisters. I settled on Brooks' shoes most of the time due to lots of problems with blisters with many other brands. For some reason I got fewer with most Brooks shoes I've tried. Despite not needing extra supportive shoes I've found they do help, although I now buy standard shoes and add in Enertor insoles which give that extra support - I think it reduces foot movement inside the shoes. I chose Brooks Hyperion Elite 2s when they first came out because they offered similar performance improvements to the other makes (having solved the issues with the first iteration). I may try the others brands too, but you know what it's like - if something works...

I have both elite 2 and vaporfly 3 ur totally right brooks feels more stable I enjoy both of them cheers from Albuquerque NM

Thanks @@oc7677, that's good to know; I'll need to replace my Elite 2s soon and I'm tempted to go for the Elite 3s, especially as they are way lower cost than the 2s were when they were released.

I think that was partly as I eased off the gas a bit in the last one as was worried about my hamstring. Haven’t been able to run since even so. Was interesting though as for a while they did seem to cruise along nicely.

Yeah definitely getting better with each run (well dodgy hamstring aside). I am not now sure that I could get a Stryd on and the bulge at the top of the eyelets would probably prevent the air port working properly. That said I haven’t been using much of late anyway. Never really found it essential to my running.

​@@TimGrosewith FR955 dual bandwidth, I only use Stryd on the treadmill nowadays.

@@livegreatalways yeah same and I don’t even need to on the treadmill really as can connect my Technogym MYRUN treadmill pace to the 955 and/or Zwift and that pace always seems about right compared to outside.

@@TimGrose hope the hamstring eases up soon.

@@robwetherell thanks, hope so!

I actually forgot to say! Think that there wasn’t much in it between this v1 and v2. What I also thought (and with the v3) that v1 sort of feels softer than v2 just because of the far better lockdown I have in the v1. It was a bit like in the v3. Once got it wrapping my midfoot like a glove it felt softer as then my foot and shoe felt far better connected. Hope that makes some sense.

@@TimGrose yeah it does make sense. As you say, you probably need another go but adjusting the lacing on the v2. But from my own experience I’m convinced the v2 is the firmest. I prefer softer and bouncy, but I know many don’t.

@@josephgonzalez_ I always emphasis the bit in the v3 being a bit softer and maybe I notice that more going slower which was what I felt in the warm up at 8:00 pace to sub 6 pace in the race.

Good luck!

I do have that OG 4% one and the Flyknit one but they only did them to a UK 12 not the 13 that is really my TTS. As such I think I would find my 4% too short these days. The OG 4% was a game changer though and was more of a surprise running in them for first time than the Vaporfly NEXT% 1.

Should be OK. I bought a Vaporfly 1 from StockX recently and they felt great when I tried them. I sometimes still use my first Vaporfly 1s that I bought back in 2019 and they are still good for training at least. I have also recently used the first Vaporfly 2 I got back in 2021 that have used lot quite a lot and again felt OK.

Thanks @@TimGrose for the answer. I watched your video about the Vaporfly 1 from StockX and I bought it 😁!!! I'm going to do some training and if I feel good I'll use it for my next marathon in May, or in September when I plan to run the sub 3:15 marathon.

I've got a few pairs around 300 miles and they still feel good at least for sessions.

Not a lot in it for sure. How are you defining "pure performance" though? Even though I did my fastest 5K for 2 years in the v3 the other day I have run faster in the v1 although not very often and was very likely just fitter (and indeed younger then). This test didn't tell me much there due to the hamstring issues but even backing off in the v3, I felt it rolled along nicely. I think there is also the thing that not all v1 shoes seem to be quite the same. I have 7 and I felt that this pink v1 pair I used here aren't the softest of the bunch. I think we all need to run and race more in the v3 before deciding. I do note Ben Felton (Ben is Running) did a big 5K PB in the v3 though. Again how much is it the shoes and how better getting better as a runner.

Is that your favourite of the 3 versions?

Ha ha. I thought everybody likes to see a bit of Sue in my videos.

Ha ha and ironic it was the version I like the least.

@@TimGrose foreshadowing moment 😅

Think the v3 pink but the v1 pink is looking a bit jaded now and could do with a wipe down

Hamstring does not feel too bad just meandering around the house and been putting the Theragun on it. Might go for a little walk later as tempted to try a short jog to keep the blood circulation going but think will soon know if that is wise or not.

Yeah hopefully only a minor setback

Third I think :) I did a Streakfly shoeoff with the Vaporfly 2 over a year ago when the Streakfly came out. Vaporfly “won”.

@@TimGrose oh wow!

@@TimGrose interesting. I don't see many Nike elites racing 5k in streakfly?

@@PoetWithPace Do we actually see any?

Yes and gave you 30 more minutes :)

@@TimGrose haha I was on mile 11 running during the typing

It is yes. Street View goo.gl/maps/bSZNWRGK8C5LoCnT9 Would be hard to be like Rufford as it is right at the end of a very narrow country lane with a rather blind junction to the "main" lane which was I why was annoyed a car was trying to overtake as I was approaching it from the narrow lane as they weren't going to follow me "over" it! Might be useful for my next GORE-TEX shoe review however although there is probably a much a bit too water there to avoid a total soaking.

What do you use then for racing? Build quality - well have got several pairs up around 300 miles now and still usable.