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Just FYI the damper on the terminal unit should never be 100% open. If the static pressure setpoint is set correctly by the Test and Balance / Commissioning contractor the damper will never be open 100%. The damper controls to a max cooling airflow and if it cannot achieve that airflow at any time there is an issue with the way the system was setup.
Hvacr guy here. We really appreciate the videos on how these types of systems work. If I had money to burn I would contribute to you, and eventually we will buy you coffees.
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Nicely done. As a control's technician for 34 years, having started up and commissioned several 1,000's of these things, I agree with all that you have put forth in this Video. Great work.
Hi Mark. Have You commisioned Cyclone system for Pneumatic Lifting. i doubt pitot tube system will work flawless, because air contain dust / fiber. i'm trying to use air speed sensor as feedback controller, since get proper pressure sesnor for my need is hard. do you have any experience with it ? Thank you.
Hello from South Africa, the other days I was discussing VAV with a controls guy who wasn't really clued up on HVAC. I told him to go check out Engineering mindsets! Perfectly timed video - randomly popped up in my RU-vid feed.
The controls guy wasn't familiar with VAVs? Are they not common in South Africa? I have been doing controls in the US for 10 years and I deal with VAV systems almost every day.
I do both hvac and control (ddc and pneumatic) . I often find controls guys can do excellent programming but don't always understand how the system itself runs .
HVAC design engineer and NEBB certified TAB contractor here. Your vids are excellent…well done. As a TAB contractor, two of my favorite things are (1) Siemens Controls and (2) Autoflow valves for flow control on the VAV boxes.
Hi Guys, as a HVAC and specially as a VAV controller manufacturer, I regularly need to explain Basic HVAC concepts to our none technical people that work in our factory. Your videos are an extraordinary pedagogical tool to explain and train them. Thank you for your work. When will you make one on humidifiers? if you need some technical tools or need to validate, it will be a pleasure as we also manufacture all kinds of isothermal and adiabatic humidifiers !!! Cheers from Canada!!
Excellent video, as always Engineering Mindset! As a Building Automation System Integrator/Engineer, this is a perfect simple video explanation of the principles of a standard VAV AHU system. I'll share this with any clients who may want to educate themselves on the operating principles of VAV HVACs!
Awesome video. Total pressure enters forward facing holes on VAV inlet. Total pressure is velocity and static. Holes on backside of second tube doesn't sense low, just static. Controller measures differential pressure which is only velocity, the statics cancel themselves out. Having averaged velocity pressure and known duct size area gives control actual CFM. You have made a great video!
It's now interesting to watch this video, as this is literally my job despite not having even heard of a VAV system 6 months ago. My job is the controller aspect of the system. Tweaking internal coding, values, confirming everything is operational, and networking all of them together and to the central BMS mainframe. I want to make a few notes: First of all, this is a perfect example of a concept I am quite fond of: increasing resolution of a system by adding more discrete units to it. For example, the old way would have been to have a Constant Volume AHU blasting air to every space of every floor no matter the actual temperature in those specific areas. Possibly oversimplified as just "heat" or "cool" for the ENTIRE building. Then maybe you segregate each floor to have independent control. Probably better as heat rises, so the top floor needs less heat than the basement. Then, within each floor, you add these VAV units to greatly increase local temperature control. "LOCAL" is the key word. But it is always a compromise of ultimate local control vs cost and complexity. Rarely does every single office room have its own thermostat and VAV. Usually one stat will control air for 3-5 rooms. On the other hand, some large open spaces may have several thermostats in each corner for example, each one controlling an independent VAV. Long ago, these units were actually pneumatic controlled. Now they are all digital control. Even a small office building may have 30-40 of these VAVs per floor. They usually can operate independently, in case of network failure, but can be monitored and controlled from an executive front end. The key concept here is modulation in the controls. The damper can be anywhere from 0-100%, constantly modulating to maintain setpoint. It may only modulate by 1 or 2%. The controllers use PID control algorithms to maintain setpoint. Monitoring input data such as room temp, discharge temp from the VAV, occupancy mode, and others. It is a bottom-up system. Each VAV modulates independently to its assigned room temperature. The AHU then modulates its speed (via VFD) to maintain setpoint (static duct pressure) in reaction to VAVs opening or closing. Another note is that the duct pressure sensor I've always heard to be 2/3 down the duct, not at the very end, which is interesting. The AHU uses chilled water to cool tbe supply air. The outside air compressor, or chiller, then modulates itself based on the return temperature of that chilled water. Many systems now take into account air quality, mostly CO2 data, but also room humidity. When possible, the AHUs will open their outside dampers to use cooler outside air, known as economy mode or 'free cooling'. Regardless of outside air temp, that outside air damper must remain open to a certain degree for CO2 regulation. So the damper opens with low outside air temps, and closes with warm outside air Temps, and also regulates itself on CO2 content. Electric reheaters in the VAV boxes are becoming increasingly common. "Value engineering" Electric boxes are cheaper and easier to make and install. Just run power (usually 277v) and done! The alternative is hot water reheat, which requires water pipes running to (and from) each box and a valve actuator. The flip-side is that Electric heat is very expensive. Additionally, buildings usually only have reheat boxes (of any kind) along the perimeter of the building. The central VAVs are typically cooling only. Fan-powered boxes do exist, but are rather uncommon in my experience.
Not that I really need to know any of this information but your videos are always very well detailed & explained. It's rather obvious as to the amount of time you spend on making these videos. Keep up the great work! 👍👍👏👏😉😉
Great explanation on VAV systems/terminals. For those who wonder what is the difference between a VVT and a VAV terminal box... VVT does not have an air flow feedback.
For what it’s worth, network and server rooms should not be on a building’s VAV system. These rooms typically require constant cooling which is super inefficient as the AHU has to run all night/weekend. Also, return air is a common feature. Local codes only dictate the amount of fresh air per occupant or square foot, they don’t prohibit the return air.
@@DailYxDosE many times they have a dedicated FCU with cooling in 100% recirculation mode. This would be for a small server or equipment room. Larger systems like data centers/server farms such as Apple, Google, Amazon and Facebook use more complex systems involving evaporative cooling.
An important thing to bear in mind is that many HVAC systems will contain a butterfly valve near the VAV system to back-feed the air back to the source. This valve is often wired to the thermostat via a mechatronic system. This is one of the many ways in which an HVAC system will modulate the air supply to produce comfortable conditions.
Depending on the building layout, a large HVAC system can contain one VAV or dozens (or hundreds)-which is to be decided jointly by the customers and the mechanical engineers. The reasons for an increased number of VAVs are many, with the predominant reason being a need for more varied temperatures across the building.
To someone not involved in the trade, yes, it would seem like an obscure subject. But actually this system is used in practically every modern office building in existence. So it is extremely common and not at all obscure for people in the know. It is just one of the many, many things running above your head in the ceiling of an office building that you never see. Along with a plethora of computer wires, piping and electrical wiring.
Most of what you explained in this video is correct except when there is a high demand for a VAV terminal to provide more cooling it will output maximum design air flow programmed in the controller instead of positioning the damper full open.
I have 0 interest in HVAC but man this video was good. When COVID ends and I go back into the office, I'm gonna pretend I'm smart: "So is a VAV or CAV system?"
Would appreciate more videos on the control system and operation of AHU like S/A setpoints , fire matrix different opereting scenarios. On the system I work vav damper position is never 100% open, when as commissioning technican we tell the pressure setpoint all vav have to be i some way closes, usually we trying to achieve one vav which is about 90% open and other vavs are little bit more shut
If a there are vav or end of line reheat coils of any type I like the ahu to put out 60f . This gives cooling potential and is easily reheated . This would also depend on climate.
Very educational Sir, I've one short question, please What if I keep the AHU Supply & Return Fan running at constant speed , I mean I don't install the pressure sensor ? What would happen, please
Brother that was a perfect explanation and I have an doubt those fan connected to the inlet vav terminal should only be used if the room is quite big isn't it
Maybe it's different in America, but in Australia you're generally recirculating most of the air while bringing in a small portion of fresh air. Hospitals and some buildings still require 100% fresh air, but for the most part we have a minimal amount coming in.
That type of system means you must move alot of air to satisfy to satisfy co2 . The advantage is large air volumes are great for free cooling applications. The downside is your moving large volumes of air to get to get a much less amount of outside air . This required larger equipment and larger duct sizing and more energy to move the air . 100 percent outside air systems can move just much less air so less smaller equipment and ducts can be used . Instead of using return air to heat incoming air you can using a heat exchanger taking heat from the exhaust . This is a more modern way . This is especially true when floor space and ceiling space is a premium and costly.
Great video, thank you! Actually doing a school project and VAVs are a part of it. Does anyone know how you would troubleshoot a vav box, or where I can find that information?
Typically when troubleshooting VAV boxes you want to ensure that the dampers are fully opening and closing. You also want to ensure the electrical reheater/hot water valve is opening and closing fully. If not, it’s likely a bad controller or actuator. It can get more complex though, when measuring CFMs to find velocity and adjusting K factors!
Great explanation sir. Will look for more videos about ACMV/HVAC system. Appreciate it. Great job. Keep it up. We will always with The Engineering Mindset.
I have AHU with VAV's all at the air handler units that are going to different zones. Do you have videos to show how those are controlled from all the thermostats?
hi. good video. you mind to allow auto generate english subtitle? I watch things in 4x speed nowadays. only managed to read subtitle though with that speed. good video again! thanks
Hey Paul, I’m a huge fan of your videos. I have a question I wanted to ask, feel free to respond or disregard this inquiry at your discretion. I manage the facilities for a commercial space that has a single zone totaling 786,000 cubic feet. The design intent for this area’s HVAC is a single zone VAV system, served by a total of 7 package RTU’s dedicated to this one space, each unit can move up to 21,500 cfm of airflow and is equipped with power exhaust fans. My question is, can a large single zone such as this be served by 7 RTU’s all operating in single zone VAV operation, or should they all be utilizing duct static pressure for fan speed controls? I will also point out that these units do not communicate with each other as the BAS can only support setpoint adjustment, so each unit’s fan speed adjusts to it’s individual zone temperature reading via a zone thermostat. Apologies for writing this long form, but I didn’t want to miss any pertinent details. Again please disregard answering this if so inclined, just wanted to see if I could get someone else’s input. Keep making videos my friend, you do an excellent job!
how come a hospital project has a vav on the return ductwork? (ducted return). this is not connected to the fan assists, it goes to a main return ductwork. does this vav serve like a return air fan? please explain. thx
the floor area ratio of mechanical room - office space in the "Basic office VAV System" is not to scale right? o.o it is just enlarged to better show the components I hope. Also of course thanks for the great video. Using to study for ARE5.0. since our architecture schooling is so ever lacking...
Curious how the AHU exhaust fan is controlled. I would imagine that it's desirable to maintain a slight positive pressure within the building at all times. Is it so controlled?
Thank you so much for explaining the reheat coil. I was a service technician for the gas utility in St Louis, Missouri; I was working at a new construction University Building in the middle of July and could not understand why I had a rush order from the mechanical contractor to get the gas turned on to a small package boiler (200,000 BTU). They informed me it was to offset the air conditioning load in different parts of the building. For years I could not understand the mechanical engineers thoughts on this design ( thought it was a waste of energy). At least now I understand its usefulness but I still think it's a waste of energy. Isn't there a way to use the hot outside air with a heat exchanger to do the same thing ? ( using a heat exchanger( hot water or air), I would think it my eliminate the humidity problem & save energy ?).
